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Will Putin Invade Ukraine?

Started by Cassia, January 20, 2022, 01:29:34 PM

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Hydra009



Four planes yesterday, quite a haul.

Hydra009

Two Russian T-90 tanks spotted in Kharkiv region, but they appear to be disabled/abandoned

One is spinning tracks that no longer touch the ground and the other appears to have partially fallen into a pond.

They're badly in need of a tractor to tow them out...


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I think we can safely say that Ukraine is a  risky stay.

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This is going to end in absolute disaster.

Shiranu

Quote from: Hydra009 on September 25, 2022, 11:07:44 PM

This is going to end in absolute disaster.
Hiding behind the infirm, the elderly, the mentally handicapped... behind ethnic minorities, behind people you denied the most basic of human rights...

Truly the nation of gigachads who wrestle bears bare-chested and out macho the entire West with one drop of God-light-shined-upon sweat.
All the evils that men cause to each other because of certain desires, or opinions or religious principles, are rooted in ignorance. [All hatred would come to an end] when the earth was flooded with the knowledge of God. - Moses Ben Maimon

Hydra009

It looks almost as if they're trying to genocide Russians as much as they're trying to genocide Ukrainians.

SGOS

At the beginning of this, I though Ukraine would fall in a matter of weeks.  Now I'm perplexed by Russia.  they seem beaten already.  Why are they hanging on throwing good money after bad? but then I was wrong about Ukraine.  I also wonder if Russia's nuclear capability is in as poor disrepair as their conventional equipment.

All my life, I've considered Russia to be a formidable power.  Even after the fall of the Soviet Empire, I still thought they were formidable. Now I'm not so sure.  Have we been led to believe this for some reason?  I remember before we invaded Iraq, the media reported that Iraq was something like the fourth strongest military power in the world. But Saddam's formidable Republican Guard was running for cover and shedding their uniforms without hardly firing a shot when American troops first stepped over the border.

Unbeliever

Quote from: Hydra009 on September 25, 2022, 06:53:34 PM

I think we can safely say that Ukraine is a  risky stay.
Let 'em all go to North Korea.
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Hydra009

#1375
Quote from: SGOS on September 26, 2022, 05:10:28 AMAll my life, I've considered Russia to be a formidable power.  Even after the fall of the Soviet Empire, I still thought they were formidable. Now I'm not so sure.  Have we been led to believe this for some reason? 
It's not just you who's stunned.  On paper, Russia is very formidable.  In fact, they gambled on it by rushing to Kyiv instead of more cautiously conducting an offensive.  That miscalculation cost them some of their most elite units.

They never properly established air superiority or properly supplied their invasion or properly trained the majority of their soldiers.  Their tanks were defeated by mud and manpads and drones.

So plan B was simple - regroup, bring all their artillery to bear, flatten Ukraine meter by meter, and rule the ashes.  And it worked for a while until it didn't.  Ukraine is now outranging them and Russia can't properly compete in an artillery duel nor can they properly supply their artillery.  So they've been losing this phase of the war and been losing in weeks territory that took them months to conquer.

For months, Russian leadership has been trying to eat its cake and have it too - fighting a war without mobilization or being on a war footing.

Time and time again, the Russian military has failed on every level - corruption, logistics, operation security, training, morale, equipment, etc.

At the same time, we should recognize that Ukraine has really improved since 2014.  They've also had the vast majority of the world supporting them.  This has seen them through the worst days and given them enormous capabilities - capabilities earned through their steadfast resolve and unwavering dedication.

Russia is formidable, but the fighting spirit of Ukranians combined with international aid is a practically unbeatable combination.

Hydra009

Russia grants citizenship to Snowden

I bet he's estatic about his choice of country about now.


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Ukraine blew up a drone training center, killing 20 Iranians and 40 Russians

Coulda sat by the sidelines and not be bribed to do Putin's bidding.  Besides, Iran has its own problems

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When these bad boys hit the front lines, the Ukrainians won't stand a chance! /S  😂