Gamergate and the great world wide web war.

Started by mauricio, October 07, 2015, 09:05:53 PM

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CrucifyCindy

Quote from: drunkenshoe on October 08, 2015, 03:16:02 PM
I love video games very much, but I agree with you.

Seriously? LOOL. So this could even be made in to some movie?

I am not kidding, that is how it all started.

Here is a brief summary of Gamergate via Rational Wiki:

Here is the briefest possible summary:

  • Video game designer breaks up with her boyfriend.
  • He posts bitter screed about her, hoping to use the Internet as his personal army.
  • Internet Hate Machineâ,,¢ obliges.
  • Peoples' privacy destroyed, lives ruined, careers in gaming industry ended..
  • Ensuing vitriol and attempts to control the mess fuels massive flame war.
  • MRAs, reactionaries, neoreactionaries, anti-progressives, anti-feminists, and other groups that hate the current direction of the Culture Wars (plus disgraced game developers) co-opt the whole mess.
  • Everyone sane realizes how shitty everything that just happened was, tries to stop it.

Rational Wiki on Gamegate

Silly isn't it?
“Rational thought is a failed experiment and should be phased out.”
 William S. Burroughs

حسن اÙ,,صباح - Ù,,يس هناك Ù...ا هو صحيح ØŒ ÙƒÙ,, شيء Ù...سÙ...وح به

Munch

Quote from: Mike Cl on October 08, 2015, 04:39:59 PM
I figured it was some such crap.  I police myself with games.  Prior to buying one, I do research to see if I would object to some stuff in it.  That's why I don't play GTA.  There are plenty of other games I like--and there are only so many hrs in a day to play anyway.  The Skyrim mods on Steam drive me nuts sometimes.  Not the mods themselves, but people's reactions to them.  It is not unusual for a mod that gives women big boobs to get lots of unfavorable comments.  Why?  If you don't like the mod don't download it.  Simple.  The same with games, in general.  If it offends you don't play it.  (Yes, there are extreme examples of games that just should not exist--but those are rare)

you should see the mods I use for my male characters. By the same standard one might think I'm objectifying men :O

'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

drunkenshoe

Quote from: Munch on October 08, 2015, 04:52:33 PM
you should see the mods I use for my male characters. By the same standard one might think I'm objectifying men :O



Oh my...I want to see those! :lol:
"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

mauricio

#63
Quote from: CrucifyCindy on October 08, 2015, 04:43:42 PM
I am not kidding, that is how it all started.

Here is a brief summary of Gamergate via Rational Wiki:

Here is the briefest possible summary:

  • Video game designer breaks up with her boyfriend.
  • He posts bitter screed about her, hoping to use the Internet as his personal army.
  • Internet Hate Machineâ,,¢ obliges.
  • Peoples' privacy destroyed, lives ruined, careers in gaming industry ended..
  • Ensuing vitriol and attempts to control the mess fuels massive flame war.
  • MRAs, reactionaries, neoreactionaries, anti-progressives, anti-feminists, and other groups that hate the current direction of the Culture Wars (plus disgraced game developers) co-opt the whole mess.
  • Everyone sane realizes how shitty everything that just happened was, tries to stop it.

Rational Wiki on Gamegate

Silly isn't it?

Yeah that sure sounds like the full picture, how about you rather look at the timeline that has recorded almost all the important events read them and decide for yourself. Rather than have rationalwiki, the feminist biased wiki that took the wikipedia editors banned for vandalizing the wikipedia gamergate article, tell you what is the truth. Also you are confusing the quinnspiracy with gamergate, and the fact that it started on 4chan where multiple different groups did different things for their own purposes. You had /pol/ (poltically incorrect board that hates tumblr feminists) and /v/ (videogame board that hates gaming journalists) /b/ (trolls) and /r9k/ (NEETs that hate alpha males and promiscuous women) They all discussed the zoepost ( a big text where eron gonji exposed zoequinn cheating and abuse of him with screenshots and stuff) Ultimately the meat of gamergate was /v/ people that saw the implications that zoe quinn slept with a game reviewer that mentioned her game as an opportunity to expose the gaming journalists corruption. Then when the identity politics narrative started /pol/ helped to counter the bullshit. It was never a homogeneous movement. But they sure did manage to expose corruption (here you have a big list of journalistic ethics breaches http://deepfreeze.it/journo.php) and also gave 70k+ dollars to a feminist charity (to introduce woman developers to the gaming industry ) so they sure were great anti-feminists: http://www.cinemablend.com/games/TFYC-Discuss-GamerGate-Recovering-From-Hacks-4chan-Support-67239.html      https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-fine-young-capitalists--2

http://www.tiki-toki.com/timeline/entry/336432/The-GamerGate-Chronicles/#vars!date=2014-08-17_04:24:00!

Sargon The Grape

Speak when you have something to say, not when you have to say something.

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Mike Cl

Quote from: Munch on October 08, 2015, 04:52:33 PM
you should see the mods I use for my male characters. By the same standard one might think I'm objectifying men :O


Good for you.  I use whatever mods I like.  And I objectify whatever it is I want to objectify.  It's private to me.  What anybody else does is on them.  And if a person doesn't like the mod, then just don't use it.  Seems pretty simple to me. 
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

CrucifyCindy

Quote from: GrinningYMIR on October 08, 2015, 04:15:36 PM
this girl has been bitching at me ever since I met her and has downed everything I stand for and continued to make herself out to be superior


I'm tired of just letting that happen

Maybe we don't like each other because I am a former high school cheerleader and in the wild we are natural enemies.
“Rational thought is a failed experiment and should be phased out.”
 William S. Burroughs

حسن اÙ,,صباح - Ù,,يس هناك Ù...ا هو صحيح ØŒ ÙƒÙ,, شيء Ù...سÙ...وح به

GrinningYMIR

Quote from: CrucifyCindy on October 08, 2015, 07:56:05 PM
Maybe we don't like each other because I am a former high school cheerleader and in the wild we are natural enemies.

I dated a cheerleader, we got along fine.
"Human history is a litany of blood shed over differing ideals of rulership and afterlife"<br /><br />Governor of the 32nd Province of the New Lunar Republic. Luna Nobis Custodit

Munch

Quote from: Mike Cl on October 08, 2015, 06:19:38 PM
Good for you.  I use whatever mods I like.  And I objectify whatever it is I want to objectify.  It's private to me.  What anybody else does is on them.  And if a person doesn't like the mod, then just don't use it.  Seems pretty simple to me.

thats whats great about games like skyrim, the full on customization of the world you want, if you want to make all npcs naked, or make them perform for you, its all private and however you want without being shot down for it.


'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

Munch

Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on October 08, 2015, 05:55:26 PM
As do I.

I'm trying to figure out hot to share a winrar file here, but its to big for the upload
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

Sargon The Grape

Quote from: Munch on October 08, 2015, 08:43:15 PM
I'm trying to figure out hot to share a winrar file here, but its to big for the upload
Do whatever you need to do. We must have pictures of these mods in action! For science, of course. :lol:
Speak when you have something to say, not when you have to say something.

My Youtube Channel

Mike Cl

Quote from: Munch on October 08, 2015, 08:26:34 PM
thats whats great about games like skyrim, the full on customization of the world you want, if you want to make all npcs naked, or make them perform for you, its all private and however you want without being shot down for it.
I'm with you on that.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Munch

#72
There you go Hijiri and DS, should be seeing the private posts with them in

QuoteI'm with you on that.

Its just how when you have people like anita, who want to control and brandish people for what they enjoy in entertainment, be it violent games and movies, sex, horror, humor, when you have someone trying to stop people from enjoying a fantasy, that has no impact on her life or anyone elses in the privacy of their own homes, then she's taking the piss.

Like the pictures I just uploaded to DS and Hijiri, I wouldn't ever expect a mainstream game to have that kind of content, but because of the open customization that came from modding communities, it allows people to live out their gaming experience however they wish, which is what the fantasy should be in the privacy of their own homes. And the best thing is it shows that people like Anita can't effect what people want to create, even if she got the UN to push for archaic methods of control in the gaming world, the gaming community would simply get around it, and make their own games.

'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

mauricio

Quote from: Munch on October 08, 2015, 09:17:37 PM
There you go Hijiri and DS, should be seeing the private posts with them in

Its just how when you have people like anita, who want to control and brandish people for what they enjoy in entertainment, be it violent games and movies, sex, horror, humor, when you have someone trying to stop people from enjoying a fantasy, that has no impact on her life or anyone elses in the privacy of their own homes, then she's taking the piss.

Like the pictures I just uploaded to DS and Hijiri, I wouldn't ever expect a mainstream game to have that kind of content, but because of the open customization that came from modding communities, it allows people to live out their gaming experience however they wish, which is what the fantasy should be in the privacy of their own homes. And the best thing is it shows that people like Anita can't effect what people want to create, even if she got the UN to push for archaic methods of control in the gaming world, the gaming community would simply get around it, and make their own games.



The problem is when the government gets on it, there are countries where lolicon anime art is illegal to posses and can be punished with jail time and the laws are pretty inconsistent about it. There is a precedent of censorship and prosecution of certain fantasies and anita can be a useful idiot for the government to push this types of law forward for their own even worse subterfuge ambitions like killing online anonymity and privacy.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2005-03-04/canadian-arrested-for-importing-loli-porn-manga

Baruch

#74
Every human on the planet, either out of greed or fear ... want a dictatorship where they are the dictator.  So yes, online anonymity and privacy has to go, because you can't run a dictatorship with it.  There are things are worse than a breakdown of civilization ... at least as savages we will have some freedom.  And I already know how to live without every technology developed since 1965.  I will miss it, but I want my freedom first.  It was necessary from Rome to fall, and we are rapidly providing reasons why the status quo can't be allowed to survive.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.