Gamergate and the great world wide web war.

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Basicly, wikipedia is a convoluted source of "information" that can be edited anytime and its moderators not even bothering to fact check the information. Don't use it as a reliable source, but instead check multiple sources of information.

You realise this is something taken over by the police, right? Do you really believe that if there was some serious manipulation, what happened and what these women and men lived wasn't true, this wouldn't go out all this time? This is not some half ass wiki article with a few feminist links below.

All the main media sources below, all those men and women are conspiring against the game community, is that it? They are all lying about people -women AND men- fleeing their homes because male gamers posted their personal information so somebody would harm them; threats of mass murder, bombing, rape, death. Not just those women, but everyone who dared to talk against it got harmed in some way.

There is nothing complicated or convoluted about being have to flee where you live because of saying your opinion out loud and getting death threats. It happens the same way in the Middle East. People get threatened becaue of their opinions and their  information is given out by supporters and they get harmed, killed...etc.

This is something highly coordinated and organised.

PS Wiki is being posted here every day. If that is what you think, stop posting it. And of course also stop posting the main media sources below like The Guardian, Washington Post, New York Times, BBc...etc. Because you cannot have it both ways.

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[drunkenshoe]

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[drunkenshoe]

You know what it is just pointless. It doesn't matter. Even in the near future when people die because of something like this you will all go about mental illness and a couple of bad apples.

There are articles down there written about gamers who are very uncomfortable about this. Naturally. Most of the articles are written by men. I'm sure feminists got very angry and wrote a lot which perfectly justified and natural, but that list is not some trivial set of feminist propaganda pages.

[mauricio]

You know what it is just pointless. It doesn't matter. Even in the near future when people die because of something like this you will all go about mental illness and a couple of bad apples.

There are articles down there written about gamers who are very uncomfortable about this. Naturally. Most of the articles are written by men. I'm sure feminists got very angry and wrote a lot which perfectly justified and natural, but that list is not some trivial set of feminist propaganda pages.

So are you just gonna buy the narrative and refuse to look at the other side? Here have the chosen representatives of gamergate (by collecting votes from all the gamergate main hubs) speaking with a panel of members of the society of professional journalists, talking about the ethical breaches. The anti gamergate side refused to participate, some saying they did not want to legitimize harassers, let's see how much harassment do this people have to spout. This panel that was ultimately interrupted by multiple bomb threats even though measures were taken like sweeping the place in the morning. Which mobilized and wasted tons of resources because someone did not want GG to air their grievances. (the sound issue is fixed at 2:06 shit actually starts at 4:10)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW2D-OPscw4

[drunkenshoe]

You people are living in a society that legitimise arresting 14 year old kids for making clocks and bringing it to school -which is supported by almost all the American society that it's a reasonable measure- there is a shooting somewhere every week, just in the last 10 months there have been 298 mass shootings in this country and nobody cares about any of this beyond  'oh another pyschopath, yeah this shit happens man, don't touch my guns'. Any death toll is almost looked as some natural collateral of the American culture by its own people, BUT a bunch of men and women SHOULD HAVE PLAYED the stupid braveheart for a bullshit rate race about video games, going against every odds AFTER all that fatal mass threats, people giving their personal information out with death and rape threats, threatening everyone who even made a joke or a unwanted comment against them, SHOULD HAVE RISKED their own lives and their families.

You know, because it is just simple grievances that is. That massive amount of people attacking and threatening people individually, in a coordinated manner in a mass scale. They should have kissed and made up, grouped hugged after all that because that is what people do when they are threatened with their lives and shown as target to a hateful, angry, hostile massive group online. 


There should be a line between absolute moronity and trying to defend your side in expense of anything that might happen to people, because you love your toys. That's fanatism, that's being a zealot. 

[mauricio]

well i see you did not want to watch the video so lets try this a condensed version!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62euQFWuQGc

[PickelledEggs]

No one bats an eye.

In all seriousness. Sorkeyziun is probably one of the most inconsistent liars I have ever learned about. Constantly contradicting herself... always accusing something of being the enemy. I truly believe that at this point she actually believes what she is spewing. She has brainwashed herself to the point that she can't turn just say "welp... maybe I was wrong" and needs to satisfy her biases.

[mauricio]

BUT a bunch of men and women SHOULD HAVE PLAYED the stupid braveheart for a bullshit rate race about video games, going against every odds AFTER all that fatal mass threats, people giving their personal information out with death and rape threats, threatening everyone who even made a joke or a unwanted comment against them, SHOULD HAVE RISKED their own lives and their families.

I have no idea what are you talking about frankly , just inform yourself. You are talking like if gamergate was some ideological conflict on the level of extreme islam. No act of physical violence has occurred to anyone in gamergate. It all has been words from both sides that have harmed careers and reputations based on unproven claims. But the one that have done that from the side of gamergate (which is not even certain since all this threats and doxxing is ANONYMOUS GET THAT IN YOUR HEAD WE DO NOT KNOW WHO DID THIS THINGS  THERE'S TONS OF TROLLS THAT HATE ANITA) have been condemned thoroughly by gamergate meanwhile the anti GG side has protected some of their harassers (like randi harper) in an hypocritical fashion. Are you even familiar with the concept of hatemail? Do you know the difference between people like ayaan hirsi ali or salman rushdie and anita sarkeesian? the former received threats that the police took as credible and they had to be escorted for years even decades of their life, there were actual attempts at their lives.  No one has tried to hurt anita sarkeesian, NOT ONE FUCKING PERSON HAS EVEN TRIED TO VERBALLY HARASS HER IN REAL LIFE. Yet you do the bullshit argument of hey guys people are getting shot why are you complaining about games. Well get fucking real yourself anita is light years away from being a victim like Ayaan Hirsi Ali or Salman Rushdie who do not spend 90% of their time damseling themselves, but actually produce intellectual discourse. Anita's hyperbolic and paranoid rhetoric is just bullshit. You do not know shit about this topic. You have not even tried to hear what the actual members of gamergate have to say. You just listen and believe what their opponents have to say about them. Didn't you learn anything at the university go fucking do your homework and do first hand research from both sides if you wanna preach like you actually know shit.

[Baruch]

Shoe ... you understand in such an impressive way, but you don't make the final leap.  Americans aren't like fanatics, they are fanatics.  No different from ISIS.  That is why it is so funny to me at least, that Americans get their ... XXX up ... over ISIS atrocities.  They aren't against evil, they are against competition.  Same deal with the violent drug gangs in Mexico.  They want violence to be an exclusive blond-blue eyed thing, just like Germans.

Many Americans are German, and Anglo-Saxons and Scandinavians are just another kind of German.  The rest of the world needs to realize that we are germ-an.  We infect with the dollar, like a predatory spider injects flesh dissolving fluids into its victims, so we can suck the shell dry.  And our embassies are like wasps implanting wasp larva into living victims (see Cairo embassy).

Video games, violent or otherwise, are part of American cultural viral injection ... only the French try to protect themselves, everyone else, including China, simply want to get into America mode.  The world would be smarter to wall the US off and not let us out ... don't use our money, don't buy our products or services.

[PickelledEggs]

As much of a hate-monger that Surkoozshun is, she can't do anything. She can build her army of irrational, inconsistent, complainers, but games will continue to be made. If she really wanted to do something for feminine equality, she would spend her time and energy encouraging more positive female roles, like Lara Croft in Tomb Raider or something similar... or maybe even something different.

She wants more games centered around her ideals? She should get people to make them. Attempting to silence developers in what they want to make in terms of games will always be a failed attempt at equality.

[drunkenshoe]

I am not talking about video games being violent or Anita Sarkeesian's opinions.

I'm also aware US is not Switzerland. Also please remember that USA is a very young country. And no, I refuse to see the people of any country as predatory spiders or wasps and honestly I don't think I can. I am a bit too involved with cultural studies, anthropology, sociology or social psychology for that. I also have a working brain. That kind of stops me from seeing things in black and white.

It's not really difficult to see why people act the way the do. Humans are not that complicated really. Neither are they pyschopaths by race or nation.

There is nothing complicated with this issue.
 

[drunkenshoe]

As much of a hate-monger that Surkoozshun is, she can't do anything. She can build her army of irrational, inconsistent, complainers, but games will continue to be made. If she really wanted to do something for feminine equality, she would spend her time and energy encouraging more positive female roles, like Lara Croft in Tomb Raider or something similar... or maybe even something different.

She wants more games centered around her ideals? She should get people to make them. Attempting to silence developers in what they want to make in terms of games will always be a failed attempt at equality.

Of course games will continue to be made.

It won't be people like Sarkeesian that will have an impact on games, but politicans. And gaming community is just playing in to their hands with this kind of bullshit.

Unfortunately, there are more parents than gamers -or non gamers- in the US or in the world and compared to the gamer group -which includes under age gamers- they ALL vote and ready to buy anything that is marketed for safety. The time will come that this is going to be made into an issue about violence in general, as the stupid NRA tries to make it at every opportunity.

And politicians are going to use this severely. Esp. in the US. You have an unbelievable gun violence and while you guys are focusing on Sarkeesian because you hate her, but a very big group in your country is thinking that 'new games of the last decade' are the reason. I wouldn't be surprised if NRA would try to come up with new resreach or manipulate the independent ones. They do it to all the gun research.

That's what governments do. They pretend to fix the stuff they can't -or even won't try to- on fantasy grounds. It's all about the perception management. There is nothing better they do. What's more likely when you think the profits? A real strict gun control, researching the reasons of a social explosion US has been having OR slapping the game industry? The latter of course. Because trying to solve the violence problem in the US requires to accept a lot of things that the state, government or the people cannot afford culturally or most importantly economically to do. That's a huge can of worms, noone would agree to open. It's NOT beneficial, nor profitable for now. It's not going to be for a long time, because it requires some changes in American identity and that means a paradigm shift in American society.

[Baruch]

"It's all about the perception management." .. you do understand politics ... and magic

[mauricio]

Of course games will continue to be made.

It won't be people like Sarkeesian that will have an impact on games, but politicans. And gaming community is just playing in to their hands with this kind of bullshit.

Unfortunately, there are more parents than gamers -or non gamers- in the US or in the world and compared to the gamer group -which includes under age gamers- they ALL vote and ready to buy anything that is marketed for safety. The time will come that this is going to be made into an issue about violence in general, as the stupid NRA tries to make it at every opportunity.

And politicians are going to use this severely. Esp. in the US. You have an unbelievable gun violence and while you guys are focusing on Sarkeesian because you hate her, but a very big group in your country is thinking that 'new games of the last decade' are the reason. I wouldn't be surprised if NRA would try to come up with new resreach or manipulate the independent ones. They do it to all the gun research.

That's what governments do. They pretend to fix the stuff they can't -or even won't try to- on fantasy grounds. It's all about the perception management. There is nothing better they do. What's more likely when you think the profits? A real strict gun control, researching the reasons of a social explosion US has been having OR slapping the game industry? The latter of course. Because trying to solve the violence problem in the US requires to accept a lot of things that the state, government or the people cannot afford culturally or most importantly economically to do. That's a huge can of worms, noone would agree to open. It's NOT beneficial, nor profitable for now. It's not going to be for a long time, because it requires some changes in American identity and that means a paradigm shift in American society.

Sarkeesian is meaningless on her own shes just a useful idiot, as you say the politicians also the media that use her and all her sycophants to push censorship and control laws is the problem. Disproving her narrative is just a way to wake up people to the lies they have been fed through political correctness to support censorship and control in the name of "safety" and "progress". This narrative has been pushed in a very insidious way by liberal media like MSNBC, jezebel, gawker, the mary sue, the young turks by masking it in positive ideals like equality, safety and feminism. Unlike the conservatives narrative of games and other media causing mass shootings that liberals rejected very fast, this new narrative (https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/525793436025118721) fractured the liberals in the SJW and the anti-SJW (cultural libertarians). The SJW rhetoric of injecting gender and race on all issues and creating a scale of privilege and oppression with which to judge people opinions, using completely idiotic logic and superfluous arguments causes nothing more than polarization between men and woman, between races, between sexualities. It kills the political power of the people to stand united against authoritarian measures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaQRjKDfUFA