Gamergate and the great world wide web war.

[CrucifyCindy]

The episode ended being so ridiculous no one took it seriously, but it sure is funny.

Much like the geeks who associate themselves with gamergate

[drunkenshoe]

Ranting about something is one thing, but lying about it, spinning it as truth, and getting countless sheeple to follow her is dangerous, as it would be with religion, something I know you agree is a problem when it comes to people on mass.

She doesn't just rant, I've seen ranting on youtube all the time, she stirs the pot and gets people to follow her on those lies she spins. That might have been a non issue, if she wasn't bleeding money from clueless sheeple, and speaking at the UN as if she has a clue about the world around her, using the lies she used to get to that position that allowed her to be there.

Just because a few psychoic gamers throw death threats at her doesn't mean that is any kind of standard, yet she's the one spinning all gamers in that same light because of those few that did, and using that as her front for attacking a genre she doesn't even give a shit about. So many active gaming feminists themselves have come forward and said she's full of shit.

http://actually-disabled.tumblr.com/post/104393128244/im-a-female-gamer-and-this-is-why-i-hate-anita

I would ask you to see her for what she is. I'm well aware of the overly aggressive nature of some gamers, both male and female, in the genre. But as a gay man, I have never once called for the genre to be broken apart and made from the ground up again to combat prejudice against gay gamers.
And plus, I actually play games, unlike Anita.

Munch, guys, this is crazy. If this is the case and what you feel WHY are you even watching her videos? How ever you look at it, this is made into something ridiculously out of proportion. And you seem like you made her the objection of your hatred. Don't you think this is silly?

By the way, not to be the party pooper but there will be a lot of change in video games in this sense in coming decades -I defined that as Anita standards in another thread to pull chains, I'll take that back lol- it is easily seen from now. She won't be the reason, probably not as organised and sterilised as she desires. It will be slow but end up much different than what they are now. because this is what system does. Tries to sterilise the fiction of whatever it cannot fix.

Anyway, you shouldn't make this or her this much of a big deal. Because it is ridiculous.

[GrinningYMIR]

Much like the geeks who associate themselves with gamergate

I get it. You don't like gamers. That's cool. You don't like men, I understand. You like going down on women, I do too, I commend you on that choice.

Shut the fuck up.

You're being a bigger bitch than the chosen bitch proclaimed but he ancient sages of bitchdom on the mountain of bitch two thousand years ago

Shut up

[mauricio]

And most people do not hate her because what kind of a person they believe she is, BUT just because they hate what she is saying about their video games. This is fucking ridiculous. She doesn't have to pick a controller or even play one game all her life. She has a right to rant or get loud about something she doesn't like. Like we do here all the time.

First this has nothing to do with her right to speak her mind, he can spew as much bullshit as she wants and i will refute her. People do not like her not just because she's targeting games, but because her criticism is utter bullshit, she hardly ever cites any evidence to back up her claims even when she promised to use the thousands of dollars she got for extensive research and has proclaimed herself as an expert on the topic.



Shes a charlatan as simple as that. That's why she gets hate which is completely meaningless since it is all internet shit flinging that everyone else gets too. I have been told to kill myself, threatened to kill me or harm my family all that shit. And i know it is all meaningless because it is some internet though guy that is just mad because i just proved him wrong or beat him in a game. But if you are a person with a big platform and target a massive group of people by saying a bunch of stupid shit, yeah you are gonna get a lot of responses ranging from rambling insults to pretty eloquent refutations. But trying to characterize all this responses as harassment and claim that proves your point, while disregarding the valid ones is pure charlatanry.

http://techraptor.net/content/gamergate-really-analysis-twitter-hashtag

Here you have 2 data analysis that show that only a extreme minority of the tweets on the gamergate hashtag are harassment or threats

[Munch]

Change happens over time and it happens use to shifting ideologies that are part of society. This is why people in the west look at the way people in the middle east behave with things like forced marriage, underaged sex and other similar things with disgust, because the western world as progressed over time, slowly, but reaching a point where it can look at whats happening there and feel disgust from it.

But people like anita aren't prepared to let things happen over time, she doesn't want to go with the flow and level things develop, she wants the world to change for her instead of giving a shit about anyone else. Men are not going to change overnight in a snap, it happens slowly, the same way women have grown in power and influence, slowly, over time.

What makes it a big deal is when you have her speaking in public places and getting people to follow her, despite knowing full well she's bullshitting them. It is the same way I feel about preachers convincing all Christians that god wants them to condemn homosexuals, the same way Islamic preachers demand women be treated like cattle. They are all liars and rabble rousers who want to control people, and for that reason I despise people like Anita. 

I'm gay, I'm a gamer, I'm white and I'm a man. I hold people with contempt if they choose to attack people for what they are, as opposed to what they believe.

[drunkenshoe]

I get it. You don't like gamers. That's cool. You don't like men, I understand. You like going down on women, I do too, I commend you on that choice.

Shut the fuck up.

You're being a bigger bitch than the chosen bitch proclaimed but he ancient sages of bitchdom on the mountain of bitch two thousand years ago

Shut up

What are you doing, GYMIR?


This can't be about her or gaming or Anita Sarkeesian, you know that right?


Stop acting like an asshole.

[GrinningYMIR]

What are you doing, GYMIR?


This can't be about her or gaming or Anita Sarkeesian, you know that right?


Stop acting like an asshole.

this girl has been bitching at me ever since I met her and has downed everything I stand for and continued to make herself out to be superior


I'm tired of just letting that happen

[drunkenshoe]

Change happens over time and it happens use to shifting ideologies that are part of society. This is why people in the west look at the way people in the middle east behave with things like forced marriage, underaged sex and other similar things with disgust, because the western world as progressed over time, slowly, but reaching a point where it can look at whats happening there and feel disgust from it.

But people like anita aren't prepared to let things happen over time, she doesn't want to go with the flow and level things develop, she wants the world to change for her instead of giving a shit about anyone else. Men are not going to change overnight in a snap, it happens slowly, the same way women have grown in power and influence, slowly, over time.

What makes it a big deal is when you have her speaking in public places and getting people to follow her, despite knowing full well she's bullshitting them. It is the same way I feel about preachers convincing all Christians that god wants them to condemn homosexuals, the same way Islamic preachers demand women be treated like cattle. They are all liars and rabble rousers who want to control people, and for that reason I despise people like Anita.

I agree with you about how change happens.

However, people are free to follow/listen whoever they want, Munch. We cannot stop them. If we try to do something like that then we fall into the situation of the groups you described.

But then there is also another reality that without conflict or without people making a shitstorm nothing happens.

You guys are too angry and too much full of hatred to talk about this. Calm down, it is not healthy.


By the way, I was talking about something else with change in video games. It will be related to political issues I think. At least start like that. Nothing good.

[mauricio]

What are you doing, GYMIR?


This can't be about her or gaming or Anita Sarkeesian, you know that right?


Stop acting like an asshole.

Lmao so hes acting like an asshole? when cindy has been whining and attacking the person rather than the argument since the start of this thread and in other places, hes just paying her with the same coin.

[mauricio]

You guys are too angry and too much full of hatred to talk about this. Calm down, it is not healthy.

You keep saying that, i guess your mind reading skills really are incredible, or maybe you are extrapolating hatred from criticism? So i guess you also hate us when you criticize our young male boys club attitude?

[drunkenshoe]

this girl has been bitching at me ever since I met her and has downed everything I stand for and continued to make herself out to be superior


I'm tired of just letting that happen

You have met her somewhere? Because we are in a public internet forum. It's not like you cannot avoid her.

And this is going to end when you all call her bitch and tell her shut the fuck up? What are you doing guys? May be you should learn to give the right reactions at the right time before getting aggravated too much to explode.

I don't know the background of this, but even if you were right about something, now you are the offensive one. And you guys usually tell me to cool down.

[GrinningYMIR]

You have met her somewhere? Because we are in a public internet forum. It's not like you cannot avoid her.

And this is going to end when you all call her bitch and tell her shut the fuck up? What are you doing guys? May be you should learn to give the right reactions at the right time before getting aggravated too much to explode.

I don't know the background of this, but even if you were right about something, now you are the offensive one. And you guys usually tell me to cool down.

You know what I mean, its like she purposefully picks on us and acts put out when one of us fires back

[Mike Cl]

Gamergate is more about people claiming there's a sexism problem in the gaming community (and that we don't want woman in our boys club hur dur) without evidence, and saying how running over hookers in GTA makes you more sexist. This people are useful idiots for the politicians and the like to push censorious policy, recently anita sarkeesian and zoe quinn went to the UN to whine about cyberviolence (including things like calling her a liar and that she sucked) asking for systemic changes to deal with this "issue".

I figured it was some such crap.  I police myself with games.  Prior to buying one, I do research to see if I would object to some stuff in it.  That's why I don't play GTA.  There are plenty of other games I like--and there are only so many hrs in a day to play anyway.  The Skyrim mods on Steam drive me nuts sometimes.  Not the mods themselves, but people's reactions to them.  It is not unusual for a mod that gives women big boobs to get lots of unfavorable comments.  Why?  If you don't like the mod don't download it.  Simple.  The same with games, in general.  If it offends you don't play it.  (Yes, there are extreme examples of games that just should not exist--but those are rare)

[drunkenshoe]

You know what I mean, its like she purposefully picks on us and acts put out when one of us fires back

OK. I am not following all the conversations. I'm just saying this probably wouldn't work.

[GrinningYMIR]

OK. I am not following all the conversations. I'm just saying this probably wouldn't work.

Even if it doesn't it felt good to say