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Started by Walker_Lee, April 15, 2014, 09:48:19 AM

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Johan

You can choose to believe that some stories in a very old book are true and there really is a magic man in the sky who will grant  you eternal life if you don't fuck up even though that magic man designed you to fuck up and knows you will fuck up. You can choose to believe this is true even though there is overwhelming evidence that it isn't true and absolutely zero evidence that it is.

Or you can choose to look at the facts and believe what they tell you.
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false and by the rulers as useful

Bibliofagus

#166
Hey Walker,

What did your god do to Anne Frank after she died? She was a jewish girl who worshipped your god all her life, but she never accepted your jebus. She was killed in a horrible way by people who did accept your jebus. Some of them even genuinly believed they were doing god's will killing her and millions of other jews, because the jews were the people who alledgedly nailed your alledged jebus to the cross.
Quote from: \"the_antithesis\"Faith says, "I believe this and I don\'t care what you say, I cannot possibly be wrong." Faith is an act of pride.

Quote from: \"AllPurposeAtheist\"The moral high ground was dug up and made into a walmart apparently today.

Tornadoes caused: 2, maybe 3.

Solitary

QuoteFaith is an act of pride.

"Pride goes before the falleth of man" Solitary
There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.

josephpalazzo

Quote from: Bibliofagus on April 22, 2014, 02:40:00 PM
Hey Walker,

What did your god do to Anne Frank after she died? She was a jewish girl who worshipped your god all her life, but she never accepted your jebus. She was killed in a horrible way by people who did accept your jebus. Some of them even genuinly believed they were doing god's will killing her and millions of other jews, because the jews were the people who alledgedly nailed your alledged jebus to the cross.

Hey,  once in a while God fucks it all up. Shit, he's running the universe. You think it's easy? Can you give him some slack?!?

PickelledEggs

Quote from: josephpalazzo on April 22, 2014, 05:56:58 PM
Hey,  once in a while God fucks it all up. Shit, he's running the universe. You think it's easy? Can you give him some slack?!?

Hey, well you can't know everything.

Oh wait... :lol:

Walker_Lee

Quote from: La Dolce Vita on April 21, 2014, 01:45:13 PM
Wrong you dumb cunt. If there's no afterlife that means that life is valuable. How fucking dumb are you? If we continue after we're dead, and that state is eternal, then one shouldn't care if one dies. The less time we have, the more value every single second gets. You got everything backwards. How can you be this dumb?
Wow you are just the most polite person i have ever talked to. How dumb am I? I'm not and trust me i am not being closed minded by saying that. You got it backwards you do not get the point. If there is no life after death it means we are meaningless. If there is not God life is meaningless.
Quote from: Bibliofagus on April 22, 2014, 02:40:00 PM
Hey Walker,

What did your god do to Anne Frank after she died? She was a jewish girl who worshipped your god all her life, but she never accepted your jebus. She was killed in a horrible way by people who did accept your jebus. Some of them even genuinly believed they were doing god's will killing her and millions of other jews, because the jews were the people who alledgedly nailed your alledged jebus to the cross.
A true Jew does not believe in Jesus is God. That means she would go to hell. I do not care if people think God tells them to kill someone that is not what they heard from God i can guarantee it.
God is real.
That is the truth.
There is a heaven and hell.
That is the truth.
Jesus lived, died for you, then rose again.
That is the truth.

Contemporary Protestant

How do you know the fate of Anne frank? Have you spoken to her personally? I am a Christian and I am irritated when people state an opinion as a fact, you do not know if Anne Frank is in hell, and everyone (including you and me) will be judged for our actions

leo

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Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 23, 2014, 02:26:57 PM
Wow you are just the most polite person i have ever talked to. How dumb am I? I'm not and trust me i am not being closed minded by saying that. You got it backwards you do not get the point. If there is no life after death it means we are meaningless. If there is not God life is meaningless.A true Jew does not believe in Jesus is God. That means she would go to hell. I do not care if people think God tells them to kill someone that is not what they heard from God i can guarantee it.

Really ? she was killed by a christasrd and she is going to hell for not believing in Jebus? And life is meaningless without your sky daddy dictator ? Wow you are so full of shit.  With your help I will crap the biggest turd ever . I will make a new Guinness record. All thanks to you.
Religion is Bullshit  . The winner of the last person to post wins thread .

Walker_Lee

Quote from: Contemporary Protestant on April 23, 2014, 02:32:07 PM
How do you know the fate of Anne frank? Have you spoken to her personally? I am a Christian and I am irritated when people state an opinion as a fact, you do not know if Anne Frank is in hell, and everyone (including you and me) will be judged for our actions
I know what the bible says and IF she was a true Jew which means she did not believe in God she would go to hell. God judges us by are actions but sin is all the same to him. When God judges the way he does a little fib is the same as a murder. So lets mark that up we know everyone sins that means she sinned. Also she does not believe in Jesus. By not believe in Jesus alone she would go to hell but then she is also a sinner like us all. That is how i can say by what we know about her that is where she would go. I am not saying if we both go to heaven we might find her but i am saying by what we know about her hell is where the verdict would land. 
God is real.
That is the truth.
There is a heaven and hell.
That is the truth.
Jesus lived, died for you, then rose again.
That is the truth.

leo

The post above proves without doubt that you are a troll. The guys will have fun with you . So don't worry.
Religion is Bullshit  . The winner of the last person to post wins thread .

Mr.Obvious

#175
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 23, 2014, 02:26:57 PM
A true Jew does not believe in Jesus is God. That means she would go to hell. I do not care if people think God tells them to kill someone that is not what they heard from God i can guarantee it.

Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 23, 2014, 03:29:28 PM
I know what the bible says and IF she was a true Jew which means she did not believe in God she would go to hell. God judges us by are actions but sin is all the same to him. When God judges the way he does a little fib is the same as a murder. So lets mark that up we know everyone sins that means she sinned. Also she does not believe in Jesus. By not believe in Jesus alone she would go to hell but then she is also a sinner like us all. That is how i can say by what we know about her that is where she would go. I am not saying if we both go to heaven we might find her but i am saying by what we know about her hell is where the verdict would land.

Okay, I'm going to stop with the Islam-joke on this thread. It probably stopped being funny a while ago for the rest, but I no longer find this funny myself. For you've just passed the threshold of pityfull goof into horrendous monster.

You, sir, are an immoral creep. A cretin of the lowest order. The vulgar display of your moral compass is an insult to humanity itself.
For even if there were a God, to bow the head to the immoral dictator you've portrayed to believe in is an act of disgrace void of any dignity, redemption or empathy for your fellow species.

The rest of us do not believe or at least do not believe in the psychopath you revere. But to do so and then call him just is about the lowest you can sink as a human being and is to throw away all sense of right and wrong along with all that is human in nature.

For shame.

"If we have to go down, we go down together!"
- Your mum, last night, requesting 69.

Atheist Mantis does not pray.

josephpalazzo

Walker_Lee must believe in John 16:23,

23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

Did God always respond to your request?

Shiranu

QuoteYou got it backwards you do not get the point. If there is no life after death it means we are meaningless. If there is not God life is meaningless.

Correction; YOUR life is meaningless. Don't speak for the rest of us, thanks.

"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Hydra009

Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 23, 2014, 03:29:28 PM
I know what the bible says and IF she was a true Jew which means she did not believe in God she would go to hell. God judges us by are actions but sin is all the same to him. When God judges the way he does a little fib is the same as a murder. So lets mark that up we know everyone sins that means she sinned. Also she does not believe in Jesus. By not believe in Jesus alone she would go to hell but then she is also a sinner like us all. That is how i can say by what we know about her that is where she would go. I am not saying if we both go to heaven we might find her but i am saying by what we know about her hell is where the verdict would land.
Teenager who never hurt a fly and who by all accounts was a really amiable and promising kid ---> Hell
The Nazis who imprisoned her in horrifying conditions where she ultimately died  ---> Heaven

Sounds like a winning belief system.


stromboli

Yeah, I have a choice. I'm not going to worship a god who basically made one big cock up after another. When I build shit it runs right the first time.