Yes you do and here is your chance to make it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8kkrkOmpw4
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You know what guys... ? His reasoning is solid. What do we have to lose? Let's just accept a religion and be sure rather than die and maybe find out that we're getting punished for not believing in the right God. We've got nothing to lose.
Say it with me now!
PRAISE ALLAH, ALLAH BE PRAISED!
... or the tooth fairy apa, that's cool too.
@Mr.Obvious I do not worship allah or a stupid religion. Some people hide behind this but I hate religion. They come with stupid man made rules that tell us to be perfect and don't have fun. I follow Jesus alone nothing added or taken.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 09:57:32 AM
I do not worship allah or a stupid religion... I follow Jesus alone nothing added or taken.
If you follow Jesus Christ, you are part of a religion. Or do you just follow Jesus a little bit?
We've had a number of "paint your own versions of Christianity" on the forum lately. Almost seems like a bunch of people from the Church of Not Religion are all coming in at once.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 09:57:32 AM
@Mr.Obvious I do not worship allah or a stupid religion. Some people hide behind this but I hate religion. They come with stupid man made rules that tell us to be perfect and don't have fun. I follow Jesus alone nothing added or taken.
Why don't you follow the glorious prophet Momo? If you're not bound by religion why are you following the son of god in a very specific religion?
@SGOS Even Jesus was against a religion have you read a bible? If you have not read the whole bible do not come and argue against it. People make there own versions of religions to fit there life which I hate. I would take away all of my limbs before I turned into another fake.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 09:57:32 AM
@Mr.Obvious I do not worship allah or a stupid religion. Some people hide behind this but I hate religion. They come with stupid man made rules that tell us to be perfect and don't have fun. I follow Jesus alone nothing added or taken.
You know, I'm a devout muslim now, and I don't really take kindly to you calling my religion stupid. I don't think I have to take that from an infidel.
I'll just leave you with this, if I'm right and you're wrong, you burn in hell.
Think about it. It's your choice, and it's the time to make it.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 10:17:06 AM
@SGOS Even Jesus was against a religion have you read a bible? If you have not read the whole bible do not come and argue against it. People make there own versions of religions to fit there life which I hate. I would take away all of my limbs before I turned into another fake.
Matthew 19:21 - Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.
Sorry to tell you, but you're already a fake.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 10:17:06 AM
People make there own versions of religions to fit there life which I hate.
But you haven't made up your own religion? Yeah, OK, whatever you say.
Yes, you do have a choice: turn your brain off like a religious sheep, or exercise your critical thinking skills.
Quote from: SGOS on April 15, 2014, 10:20:42 AM
But you haven't made up your own religion? Yeah, OK, whatever you say.
Um no I have not made up my own religion. I follow a God who died for me not a made up religion. It was real then and now and will you answer my question. Have you read the bible at all?
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 10:42:16 AM
Um no I have not made up my own religion. I follow a God who died for me not a made up religion. It was real then and now and will you answer my question. Have you read the bible at all?
Why would that matter? You've already shown that you haven't even cracked the first page regarding the teachings of Jesus.
Quote from: Icarus on April 15, 2014, 10:48:30 AM
Why would that matter? You've already shown that you haven't even cracked the first page regarding the teachings of Jesus.
I know the teachings but I must know have you read the whole bible or just a couple verse to try to make Christians look stupid?
Quote from: Icarus on April 15, 2014, 10:19:47 AM
Matthew 19:21 - Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.
Sorry to tell you, but you're already a fake.
I sense something oh yay that is a quote from a bible for s specific even that you are misinterpreting. This was speaking to the rich men. I know what you are trying to do which is undermined my comment to make me look stupid. Nice try.
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on April 15, 2014, 10:17:50 AM
You know, I'm a devout muslim now, and I don't really take kindly to you calling my religion stupid. I don't think I have to take that from an infidel.
I'll just leave you with this, if I'm right and you're wrong, you burn in hell.
Think about it. It's your choice, and it's the time to make it.
Ok muslims confuse me you preach peace yet you have stuff such as a regular beating. I do not care what you believe but you say praise allah but you feel you have the right to condemn me to hell yep that makes sense.
I'm going to die one day? Why didn't anyone tell me?
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 10:42:16 AM
Um no I have not made up my own religion. I follow a God who died for me not a made up religion. It was real then and now and will you answer my question. Have you read the bible at all?
Yes, I have. It's a book of myths with some references to history. I used to be a Christian. Reading the Bible was a turning point in my life. I don't believe in gods. I don't believe Jesus is the son of god, and I don't believe the Bible Jesus existed at all.
Oh... btw, you want to "accept" not "except". Those two words have totally different meanings.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 10:50:29 AM
I know the teachings but I must know have you read the whole bible or just a couple verse to try to make Christians look stupid?I sense something oh yay that is a quote from a bible for s specific even that you are misinterpreting. This was speaking to the rich men. I know what you are trying to do which is undermined my comment to make me look stupid. Nice try.
It's very easy to undermine you when you have never read the bible yet claim to follow it. Matthew 19:29 - And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
He was talking to a rich man at 19:21 but he wasn't referring exclusively to rich people, something you would have known if you had read the bible.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 10:50:29 AM
Ok muslims confuse me you preach peace yet you have stuff such as a regular beating. I do not care what you believe but you say praise allah but you feel you have the right to condemn me to hell yep that makes sense.
Oh no, you misunderstand me. I'm not condemning you to hell. I don't have that authority. But if I am right you are going to hell. So choose Islam now. You may die tomorrow, and what if I'm right? You have the chance to choose Islam now. Just accept Muhammad in your heart and pray with me so that if I'm right, you'll be saved.
And "preach peace yet you have stuff such as a regular beating", please. Have you even read the Quran? I follow Allah, not some made-up religion. And if you haven't read the whole Quran you don't have anything to say about it's teachings; do not come and argue it.
Quote from: Icarus on April 15, 2014, 10:58:23 AM
It's very easy to undermine you when you have never read the bible yet claim to follow it. Matthew 19:29 - And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
He was talking to a rich man at 19:21 but he wasn't referring exclusively to rich people, something you would have known if you had read the bible.
Don't you just love christians that think that we haven't read their book from cover to cover? :D
Quote from: Jason78 on April 15, 2014, 11:01:12 AM
Don't you just love christians that think that we haven't read their book from cover to cover? :D
Yep, especially when they obviously haven't read the bible they claim to follow.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 10:50:29 AM
I know the teachings but I must know have you read the whole bible or just a couple verse to try to make Christians look stupid?
When Jesus walks on water, critical readers start getting suspicious. When he dies and comes back to life, they get really suspicious. To a rational person, these are red flags suggesting the Bible is nonsense. Put your Bible down and beg the Spaghetti Monster for the ability to think and reason, or you will only get stupider.
:wtff: Pascal's Wager has been shown to not be logical, so anyone that claims it is being irrational. You can only experience hell if you are alive, you are not alive after you die! The Zombie Curse from imaginary friends. Solitary
Hell can't be that bad...
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QuoteI know the teachings but I must know have you read the whole bible or just a couple verse to try to make Christians look stupid?I sense something oh yay that is a quote from a bible for s specific even that you are misinterpreting. This was speaking to the rich men. I know what you are trying to do which is undermined my comment to make me look stupid. Nice try.
Sorry, but you have already shown that by yourself by saying you don't like religion but believe in Christ. A couple of verses? I could point out so many I wouldn't be able to post them all. :fU: Solitary
God creates the universe and earth in like a week.
Created everything from nothing, but needs adams rib to create a woman.
Warns them the most dangerous thing they can do is eat fruit from a certain tree, which is placed in easy reach and made very desirable.
Allows a talking snake to tempt them to eat the easily reached fruit, then condemns them and their offspring for thousands of years. Wow, that's merciful.
Some time later, even though he gives their offspring freedom of choice, destroys them all but for a handful for not worshiping him.
To rectify his condemning all mankind with a sinful nature has to come down in human form to sacrifice himself to himself to provide redemption through grace to atone for sin he himself created.
Gotcha.
Oh, and by the way, I read the Bible through twice. You have only read the parts you were directed by your pastor to read.
Quote from: stromboli on April 15, 2014, 12:17:47 PM
Oh, and by the way, I read the Bible through twice. You have only read the parts you were directed by your pastor to read.
I think we've got ourselves a living waters pupil here. A disciple of Ray Comfort.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 09:57:32 AM
I follow Jesus alone nothing added or taken.
No, you don't. You chose which teachings you'd follow, based on your cultural bias. This "I'm not religious, I just follow Jesus" crap is a plain fraud.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 09:48:19 AM
Yes you do and here is your chance to make it.
Fuck off, chubby buns.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 09:48:19 AM
Yes you do and here is your chance to make it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8kkrkOmpw4
Ugh. You're a fucktard and you won't last here that long. This is classic Pascal's wager, and if you can't understand why it's flawed then you have no business being among the general public much less here. Be glad that breathing is an autonomous process, because if it weren't your stupidity would literally kill you.
Basically what I'm trying to say is that you're a useless proselytizing fuckwad and you should go ahead and scamper back to your church before you hurt yourself.
Christ was a Muslim, sorry to break it to you. As was Abraham and all the great men of the Bible.
Allah be praised, he has given you the choice to accept him Walker. You have misinterpreted the words of one of his minor prophets Jesus and have strayed from his loving word, but he will accept you so long as you accept the choice and accept Mohammad (pbuh) as the true messenger and embrace Allah's love.
You say Muslims having beatings, but they have simply misinterpreted the teachings of Mohammad (pbuh) and Allah. Anyone who truly read the words of the Qu'ran would know that women should be respected as should all life Allah created. Tell me, why do you talk about the Qu'ran if you have not read it from beginning to end? How are you qualified to say it is not true when you have never read it yourself?
As-salamu alaykum, Walker, I hope you make the right choice. You only choose Christian interpretation because of your western culture; Islam is greater than any one culture, it is the truth. Please don't accept the fake teachings of the west.
Oh, and by the way, we don't have a choice. Free Will is an illusion.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/victor-stenger/free-will-is-an-illusion_b_1562533.html
Like I said, read something besides what the Pastor shoves in front of you.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 09:48:19 AM
Yes you do and here is your chance to make it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8kkrkOmpw4
You have a choice too. Accept Chuck Norris as your supreme god or Chuck Norris will roundhouse kick you to oblivion. Caprice ? :butt: :butt: :butt: :butt: :fU:
They should send people here straight out of bible college. So much fun.
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on April 15, 2014, 03:03:53 PM
Ugh. You're a fucktard and you won't last here that long. This is classic Pascal's wager, and if you can't understand why it's flawed then you have no business being among the general public much less here. Be glad that breathing is an autonomous process, because if it weren't your stupidity would literally kill you.
Basically what I'm trying to say is that you're a useless proselytizing fuckwad and you should go ahead and scamper back to your church before you hurt yourself.
Just posting this again because seriously fuck this guy.
So, gonna save us godless atheists, huh? Well, good luck and don't forget to write.
Lol.
That is all I have to say to this guy.
Sent via your mom
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Why do christians always assume we haven't read the bible? I was raised catholic and if you go to church for a full year the entire bible is read to you. Know how many years I was forced to go to church? My whole child hood. So yes I'm familiar with the bible. It hasn't impressed me so far. It's just a book of superstitions and legends of the time.
Quote from: doorknob on April 15, 2014, 07:40:27 PM
Why do christians always assume we haven't read the bible? I was raised catholic and if you go to church for a full year the entire bible is read to you. Know how many years I was forced to go to church? My whole child hood. So yes I'm familiar with the bible. It hasn't impressed me so far. It's just a book of superstitions and legends of the time.
This. I went through three different Christian churches growing up (Heavily Southern culture-influenced Lutheran, a private Evangelical school that taught young earth creationism and all that type of nutty shit, and then a very liberal, tolerant Lutheran church) and was exposed to the Bible from three different Christian view points from different ends of the spectrum.
The reason I don't buy it is precisely BECAUSE I have read it and have come to my own conclusions on it. Just because you (the Christian saying, "Have you read it?") came to one of the many competing conclusions the Churches have doesn't mean I had to as well.
Quote from: doorknob on April 15, 2014, 07:40:27 PM
Why do christians always assume we haven't read the bible? I was raised catholic and if you go to church for a full year the entire bible is read to you. Know how many years I was forced to go to church? My whole child hood. So yes I'm familiar with the bible. It hasn't impressed me so far. It's just a book of superstitions and legends of the time.
xians have two great ignorances.
The first is that atheists don't know the babble,
the second, that they do.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 10:50:29 AM
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I know what you are trying to do which is undermined my comment to make me look stupid. Nice try.
We don't need to do shit. You're doing fine on Your own.
Anyway I think this guy is a fraud, simply stirring shit up and having fun watching us go ape shit over some ignorant-seemingly-serious posts. Waste of time.
Thank you, you took time out of your day to make make fun of me. I would do the rubber glue think but that is too sarcastic. Seriously what you all are doing puts a smile on my face. I have worse the things like "fuckwad" before. Also to the person who said something like Jesus was Muslim, no he was God no religion. I also think people from bible college should do this great practice for street preaching. I say this because the bible said those who live like Jesus will be treated like him and he was treated worse then trash.
Allah bless your infidel soul, then.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 10:44:59 PM
Thank you, you took time out of your day to make make fun of me. I would do the rubber glue think but that is too sarcastic. Seriously what you all are doing puts a smile on my face. I have worse the things like "fuckwad" before. Also to the person who said something like Jesus was Muslim, no he was God no religion. I also think people from bible college should do this great practice for street preaching. I say this because the bible said those who live like Jesus will be treated like him and he was treated worse then trash.
Please stop being a cry baby. You are a drama queen. You are the one shitting our forums with your bullshit. By the way talking about shit : how often do you crap and fart?
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 10:44:59 PMAlso to the person who said something like Jesus was Muslim, no he was God no religion.
Jesus was a Muslim prophet. Read the Koran.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on April 15, 2014, 10:57:40 PM
Jesus was a Muslim prophet. Read the Koran.
And the koran says Jesus isn't a god and he wasn't crucified.
Quote from: leo on April 15, 2014, 11:01:34 PM
And the koran says Jesus isn't a god and he wasn't crucified.
Well if you've seen "The Man From Earth," Jesus' name was actually John, he's thousands of years old, and he survived his crucifixion using techniques he learned while studying under Buddha. Oh, and he's still alive today taking jobs as a history professor.
:clap:
Now that's what spirituality is about. Fear!
Guys... scary stuff might happen. Scary stuff and you should be afraid like me. So just say these magical words and the fear will go away. It feels good. And that's spirituality. Amen.
(if the sarcasm isn't translating well through text, just so there's no miscommunication, I am being as sarcastic as I can possibly be)
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 10:44:59 PM
Thank you, you took time out of your day to make make fun of me. I would do the rubber glue think but that is too sarcastic. Seriously what you all are doing puts a smile on my face. I have worse the things like "fuckwad" before. Also to the person who said something like Jesus was Muslim, no he was God no religion. I also think people from bible college should do this great practice for street preaching. I say this because the bible said those who live like Jesus will be treated like him and he was treated worse then trash.
Are you seriously comparing yourself with jesus right now? I mean really?
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on April 15, 2014, 11:15:31 PM
Well if you've seen "The Man From Earth," Jesus' name was actually John, he's thousands of years old, and he survived his crucifixion using techniques he learned while studying under Buddha. Oh, and he's still alive today taking jobs as a history professor.
Liked the movie :) Forgot the name of the dog that made the fat guy croak.
Quote from: pioteir on April 15, 2014, 11:18:45 PM
Are you seriously comparing yourself with jesus right now? I mean really?
If being treated like trash makes you like Jesus, then Hitler has posthumously become the ultimate Jesus figure.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on April 15, 2014, 11:24:12 PM
If being treated like trash makes you like Jesus, then Hitler has posthumously become the ultimate Jesus figure.
Hitler WAS the second coming of christ, everyone just misinterpreted him. You know taken him out of context.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on April 15, 2014, 11:24:12 PM
If being treated like trash makes you like Jesus, then Hitler has posthumously become the ultimate Jesus figure.
I am not saying i am or makes me like Jesus because i am a sinner. Us followers of him try to be more like him because he was perfect. When i said when we act like him i mean speaking bold truth. When we speak what i call bold truth it tends to convict people so they treat us like Jesus.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on April 15, 2014, 10:57:40 PM
Jesus was a Muslim prophet. Read the Koran.
Read the bible which said Jesus is the son of God. He is also God like the trinity says.
Quote from: leo on April 15, 2014, 10:56:59 PM
Please stop being a cry baby. You are a drama queen. You are the one shitting our forums with your bullshit. By the way talking about shit : how often do you crap and fart?
Am i being a drama queen? No i am just sarcastic but i love you opinion. If i said you are crapping on me i would have said it clearly. All i am saying is you people say no judging and be nice yet you do what you say not to do to me. I find it funny is all and my pooping is my business but i fart quite a bit.
Walker, we have been here awhile. we have been shown all manner of stuff- almost all of it better than what you've brought- and no one here in the 5 years I've been here has ever run off and got baptized. Quite honestly you are over your head. There is no historic evidence Jesus existed, the Bible is full of contradictions, false history and a whole load of magical crap that couldn't have happened.
If you really want the truth, just lurk here awhile and follow the discussions. If you think you can prove anything or convert us, forget it. You are wasting your time and ours. That is as nice as it gets. Stick around and keep trying to convince us, you will simply go away angry.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 11:33:54 PM
I am not saying i am or makes me like Jesus because i am a sinner. Us followers of him try to be more like him because he was perfect.
Woah! Have you seriously given up all your worldly goods to the poor to follow him as described in Matthew 19:21 (http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/19.html)?
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 11:33:54 PM
When we speak what i call bold truth it tends to convict people so they treat us like Jesus.
People who are convicted of something usually go to jail. Why would I want to do that?
QuoteRead the bible which said Jesus is the son of God.
Why should I? Why not read the quran instead? Why not skip reading bullshit texts all together and just live your life the way you want to live it?
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 11:33:54 PM
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Read the bible which said Jesus is the son of God. He is also God like the trinity says.
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He can be his own grandfather for all I care.
The trinity said anything in the bible? I know she was in the matrix but that's where it ended.
I know you didn't make any sense so far but that's a step further even for you.
Quote from: pioteir on April 15, 2014, 11:29:24 PM
Hitler WAS the second coming of christ, everyone just misinterpreted him. You know taken him out of context.
So,
His Struggle was a biblical epic?
Quote from: stromboli on April 16, 2014, 12:40:38 AM
Walker, we have been here awhile. we have been shown all manner of stuff- almost all of it better than what you've brought- and no one here in the 5 years I've been here has ever run off and got baptized. Quite honestly you are over your head. There is no historic evidence Jesus existed, the Bible is full of contradictions, false history and a whole load of magical crap that couldn't have happened.
If you really want the truth, just lurk here awhile and follow the discussions. If you think you can prove anything or convert us, forget it. You are wasting your time and ours. That is as nice as it gets. Stick around and keep trying to convince us, you will simply go away angry.
I did not come on here to convert just to give my opinion and i have evidence and i will give some. The scientific law of cause and effect can prove the existence of God. Also there is what you call magical crap i assume you are talking about stuff like the story of christmas in revelations 12 which has a dragon in it. Also i think you are talking about miracles like the whole world being flooded. Well i have no come back for it but it is your choice like i said in the video.
Quote from: Jason78 on April 16, 2014, 01:47:03 AM
Woah! Have you seriously given up all your worldly goods to the poor to follow him as described in Matthew 19:21 (http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/19.html)?
You are really pesistant on the topic of giving away my stuff. Yes he was talking to others then rich but mostly to the rich. To be honest i am a teen without a job. I literraly give when i can but thanks for asking. By the way if you expect me to hold up to those standerds you must do the same to yourself. Have you given to the poor. Do you volunteer? If you do not expect yourself to do then do not ask the question because that would make you a hypocrite.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on April 15, 2014, 11:15:31 PM
Well if you've seen "The Man From Earth," Jesus' name was actually John, he's thousands of years old, and he survived his crucifixion using techniques he learned while studying under Buddha. Oh, and he's still alive today taking jobs as a history professor.
Actually, a fairly good low budget film. No special effects, just dialog, but still worth watching.
Actually, Jesus' name was Joshua, a very common name like John.
i was nice to the guy. I showed him the east way out, gently; but no. Carry on.
And thanks to Skeletal, I can now add "proselytizing fuckwad" to my lexicon of insults. :clap:
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on April 16, 2014, 10:04:53 AM
So, His Struggle was a biblical epic?
If you read the egotistical jerk off fest that is
Mien Kampf (literally translates as "my struggle") then yes, according to Hitler he did go through some biblical struggle. Luckily he, according to his own words, had Jesus on his side so he prevailed.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 16, 2014, 12:02:58 PM
You are really pesistant on the topic of giving away my stuff. Yes he was talking to others then rich but mostly to the rich. To be honest i am a teen without a job. I literraly give when i can but thanks for asking. By the way if you expect me to hold up to those standerds you must do the same to yourself. Have you given to the poor. Do you volunteer? If you do not expect yourself to do then do not ask the question because that would make you a hypocrite.
I think you're confused, no one on this forum believes in Jesus so why would we follow his teachings? You claimed to be a true follower of Jesus so you're telling us that you follow all of his teachings. You own a computer, right? You haven't given it to the poor, right? Therefore you aren't a true follower of Jesus's teachings. Unless I missed the part about Jesus saying it's okay to own a computer.
QuoteBy the way if you expect me to hold up to those standerds you must do the same to yourself.
Um, no... that is not how it works. You claimed to follow a set of rules, we did not. If we ask you, "Do you follow all the rules you claim to follow" that does not make us a hypocrite because we never claimed to follow them ourselves. It would only be hypocritical if we claimed to follow those rules as well.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 16, 2014, 12:02:58 PMThe scientific law of cause and effect can prove the existence of God.
:pidu: :flowers: :super:
Very convenient, the new smiley selection thingy. In the old days I had to remember codes like :popcorn:
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 16, 2014, 12:02:58 PM
You are really pesistant on the topic of giving away my stuff. Yes he was talking to others then rich but mostly to the rich. To be honest i am a teen without a job. I literraly give when i can but thanks for asking. By the way if you expect me to hold up to those standerds you must do the same to yourself. Have you given to the poor. Do you volunteer? If you do not expect yourself to do then do not ask the question because that would make you a hypocrite.
Well for a start, it's right there in your holy book. But Jesus didn't mean you when he said that?
You might be a teen without a job, but you're still richer than those teens that work in sweat shops to make cheap mass produced clothing. Look at it from Jesus' point of view, he literally had nothing. Everyone was richer in worldly goods than him.
I hold you to those standards because you come here claiming to speak for God. I hold you to those standards, because that's what your holy book says you should be like. It would be unfair to hold me to the same standard, since I'm not claiming to be a Christian. I'm not a hypocrite for expecting you to act as your Jesus tells you to act.
If you can't be a Christian, that's your problem not mine.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 11:33:54 PM
Read the bible which said Jesus is the son of God.
The Koran supersedes the Bible, and it says Jesus is not the son of God. The Arian Christians also said this. The fact that this doctrine has to be spread through the very violence Jesus denounced would seem to suggest that you are wrong.
But what do I know? I'm just a dumb atheist. ;)
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Quote from: Shiranu on April 16, 2014, 01:09:59 PM
Um, no... that is not how it works. You claimed to follow a set of rules, we did not. If we ask you, "Do you follow all the rules you claim to follow" that does not make us a hypocrite because we never claimed to follow them ourselves. It would only be hypocritical if we claimed to follow those rules as well.
Yes you must hold yourself to them also. Either you hold yourself to them or you are a hypocrite. Nice choices right? I do follow the bible rules and those rules are a universal law that is for everyone. Either you reject those laws and you can be hypocrite to tell me to follow them. Or you can hold yourself up to those laws and realize everyone can not hold up to those laws. The reason God came in the form of man (Jesus) to die for us was because we can not hold up to his laws. He gave us a way to heaven because we can not do it for our self
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on April 16, 2014, 12:59:13 PM
If you read the egotistical jerk off fest that is Mien Kampf (literally translates as "my struggle") then yes, according to Hitler he did go through some biblical struggle. Luckily he, according to his own words, had Jesus on his side so he prevailed.
There is no way Hitler was a christian and he was made fun of and cursed out because he killed thousands not because he was christian. If he thought he was he was wrong. The only way he would have made it to heaven if he would of turned of his way and repent of his sin to be forgiven. So when i die and go to heaven who know i might see him if he asked for forgiveness before he died.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 16, 2014, 04:32:31 PMThe reason God came in the form of man (Jesus) to die for us was because we can not hold up to his laws. He gave us a way to heaven because we can not do it for our self
So this all knowing God created these laws he knew we could not uphold and then taxed humanity with original sin. Then, four thousand years later, he impregnated a virgin with himself and then sacrificed himself to himself in order to get rid of the original sin he created in the first place and came up with the idea of eternal torture for sinners who do not repent before death. And since God is all-knowing he saw all this coming the second he created light. What a master plan.
QuoteThere is no way Hitler was a christian and he was made fun of and cursed out because he killed thousands not because he was christian. If he thought he was he was wrong. The only way he would have made it to heaven if he would of turned of his way and repent of his sin to be forgiven. So when i die and go to heaven who know i might see him if he asked for forgiveness before he died.
Hitler was responsible for over 11,000,000 deaths. He also killed himself, which is a major sin in Christianity, so no he would not have hypothetically gone to heaven because his last living action was a sin. But if he just said sorry it would've all been cool and he could've had eternal paradise while somebody who cured a major disease and saved innumerable lives gets eternal torture because he didn't think your god. Got to love it.
Quote from: Bicod on April 16, 2014, 04:45:41 PM
So this all knowing God created these laws he knew we could not uphold and then taxed humanity with original sin. Then, four thousand years later, he impregnated a virgin with himself and then sacrificed himself to himself in order to get rid of the original sin he created in the first place and came up with the idea of eternal torture for sinners who do not repent before death. And since God is all-knowing he saw all this coming the second he created light. What a master plan.
God did not create sin man did. (Ps thanks for telling me he killed himself i did not know so yes he went to hell)
I love the idea of me going to hell. Satan sounds like a nice guy and pretty much everyone fun is going there. Too bad none of that shit exists.
Question, Walker. How do you feel about your god majorly fucking up? because basically everyone is "shrouded in sin" and hell-bound
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 16, 2014, 05:27:35 PM
God did not create sin man did. (Ps thanks for telling me he killed himself i did not know so yes he went to hell)
Nope . Man did not create sin. God created Satan knowing he will rebel against him . God created humans knowing that they will fall and he put the three of knowledge on purpose. How do you know he is in hell ? Maybe he accept Jesus in a split second before dying. That's the problem with your deity omniscience . He will be responsible for everything that happens. Remember he is all powerful too.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on April 16, 2014, 07:01:46 PM
I love the idea of me going to hell. Satan sounds like a nice guy and pretty much everyone fun is going there. Too bad none of that shit exists.
Question, Walker. How do you feel about your god majorly fucking up? because basically everyone is "shrouded in sin" and hell-bound
Well everyone is a stretch because when i was forgiven my past was cleaned. I am probably the worst sinner here because i was a hypocritical christian, then left church, left God to search for truth. I found truth by looking at scientific laws and i repented so sin i hate it not condemning me anymore. Many others are not being controlled by sin anymore. Even more are condemned to sin still. So how do i feel about God failing. I can not tell you no failure we failed him.
Quote from: leo on April 16, 2014, 07:18:41 PM
Nope . Man did not create sin. God created Satan knowing he will rebel against him . God created humans knowing that they will fall and he put the three of knowledge on purpose. How do you know he is in hell ? Maybe he accept Jesus in a split second before dying. That's the problem with your deity omniscience . He will be responsible for everything that happens. Remember he is all powerful too.
Ok you are right we did not make because God said there is nothing new under the sun. The Devil technically did when he rebelled. The devil was an angel who rebelled and took some with him. Read about the fallen angles especially in the book of Enoch. Did you know the fallen angels had sex with humans and because of it there were Giants? I know he is not in heaven because of suicide. I know God is responsible for everything and i know he is all powerful.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 16, 2014, 04:32:31 PMThere is no way Hitler was a christian and he was made fun of and cursed out.
Walker Lee also said
QuoteI say this because the bible said those who live like Jesus will be treated like him and he was treated worse then trash.
:think:
certainly sound like they both got the same treatment as a god eh? I guess that prooves that Hitler was indeed an equal of jebus.
QuoteYes you must hold yourself to them also. Either you hold yourself to them or you are a hypocrite. Nice choices right? I do follow the bible rules and those rules are a universal law that is for everyone.
You are an idiot.
Walker the lee man said:
QuoteI found truth by looking at scientific laws
and........even though everything that is your god, claims otherwise, you reject what god says in favor of science which says gods don't exist in an effort to prove that your god which claims he created everything in 7 days which you yourself claim is bullshit, which the holy book of god who claims to have written himself and whom jebus as well claims is the perfect word of god says otherwise, and you announce to the world that you yourself, above the billions of far smarter humans to have lived before you over the last three thousand years, have a better understanding and knowledge of god because.....well by golly because you think you do.
Sounds about right.
Quote from: aitm on April 16, 2014, 09:23:16 PM
Walker the lee man said:
and........even though everything that is your god, claims otherwise, you reject what god says in favor of science which says gods don't exist in an effort to prove that your god which claims he created everything in 7 days which you yourself claim is bullshit, which the holy book of god who claims to have written himself and whom jebus as well claims is the perfect word of god says otherwise, and you announce to the world that you yourself, above the billions of far smarter humans to have lived before you over the last three thousand years, have a better understanding and knowledge of god because.....well by golly because you think you do.
Sounds about right.
When did i say God creating the earth in seven days was bullshit? I never did i am saying at a time i wanted proof and God gave it to me. Science supports his existence you know the truth you just reject it. He created the earth. He made everything in six days and rested on the seventh. He sent his son to die so we can go to heaven and be with him. We do not just go into the ground when we die our soul still lives on. And that soul will go to heaven or hell. Like the reason i posted this you have a choice.
Quote from: Shiranu on April 16, 2014, 09:18:56 PM
You are an idiot.
Am I? Or are you rejecting something your science can prove?
walker lee said:
QuoteI found truth by looking at scientific laws
then you claim that you do not call the seven day creation bullshit..
well it can't be both ways boy. If you think it is then yes you ARE an idiot.
You know God is responsible for everything ever? Let's just say your god is real for a second. If he is, you willingly worship a monster who willingly creates people he knows will end up in hell. That's disgusting to me.
QuoteAm I? Or are you rejecting something your science can prove?
Science cannot "prove morality" other than that it is a product of brain chemistry and social reasons. Your statement that your specific, desert, bronze age religion's set of ethics is universal is factually incorrect (as it is not accepted by the entirety of the world) and there is no way science could prove it is.
Ergo, you are an idiot.
Quote from: aitm on April 16, 2014, 09:40:51 PM
walker lee said:then you claim that you do not call the seven day creation bullshit..
well it can't be both ways boy. If you think it is then yes you ARE an idiot.
It is not both ways SCIENCE PROVES THE EXISTENCE OF GOD. Not trying to make it seem like i am mad but it seems like the only way for you to understand is with capitalization. I am the way that is true not your thinking that you can prove him wrong. To prove God right or wrong we would have to be everywhere at once and know everything. So to prove God is real or not you would have to be him. I understand when i say this i can not prove him real either. I am saying by our worldly science laws he is real. Also it just makes sense that there is a God.
Quote from: Shiranu on April 16, 2014, 10:43:34 PM
Science cannot "prove morality" other than that it is a product of brain chemistry and social reasons. Your statement that your specific, desert, bronze age religion's set of ethics is universal is factually incorrect (as it is not accepted by the entirety of the world) and there is no way science could prove it is.
Ergo, you are an idiot.
I am not saying it proves morality i am saying the science you believe proves the existence of God. I again am not religious i hate religion. I bet a religious person would not even take the trouble to make an account log in and debate the existence of God on an atheist website. Yes my beliefs are backed up by more facts that are backed up by more facts. You do not even know your science proves God then it is not my problem. Ergo, I just believe the truth meaning i am not the idiot here.
QuoteI bet a religious person would not even take the trouble to make an account log in and debate the existence of God on an atheist website.
Keep proving my point more that you are, infact, an idiot.
Quote from: Shiranu on April 16, 2014, 11:05:17 PM
Keep proving my point more that you are, infact, an idiot.
Well would a normal dumb religious person take the time to make an account and debate the topic. How about instead of calling me an idiot answer and reply with a full statement. When you reply with "you are an idiot" it makes you sound like a two year old arguing. I mean if you would actually give a statement that is more then you are an idiot i might listen and think.
QuoteWell would a normal dumb religious person take the time to make an account and debate the topic.
Yes, yes they would... and very, very often.
Oops, sorry... I mean, "You are an idiot.".
QuoteQuote from: Shiranu on Today at 09:18:56 PM
You are an idiot.
Am I? Or are you rejecting something your science can prove?
I've read through the thread and I hate to break it to you, but you are an idiot.
And I'm not saying that just because you believe in god. Lots of believers have average to even high IQ's... you're just not one of them.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 16, 2014, 11:01:09 PMI am not saying it proves morality i am saying the science you believe proves the existence of God.
What the everloving fuck is a god?
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 16, 2014, 04:32:31 PM
Yes you must hold yourself to them also.
No, I must not. I am not a Christian.
If you wont follow your own rules, then why should I?
I do not believe that you have the courage of your convictions.
Soooo...
Have you accepted Muhammad and Allah in your heart yet?
You know, just to be sure, you should also pray five times a day, towards Mekka. It's not in the Qu'ran, but what if the Ihman is right, you know. What've you got to lose?
I know you don't want to burn in hell.
Walker, you passed the test. You are correct. God does exist. I am god. Go now, you are forgiven as long as you leave these infidels alone and let them figure out their own demise by themselves.
Sent via your mom
And oh yeah. One last thing. You are only allowed in my Kingdom of heaven if you tell everyone how much you crap and fart
Sent via your mom
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 16, 2014, 09:08:19 PM
I know God is responsible for everything and i know he is all powerful.
I've been an atheist all my life. And I want to be an atheist for the rest of my life. And since god is responsible for everything, that must mean god wants me to be an atheist. God is responsible for everything, therefore I am the exact person god wants me to be. See how that works junior? Now go outside and play. Your mothers wine box is running low and you know how annoyed she gets if you're on the computer when she wants to play pogo with her Latvian boyfriend.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 16, 2014, 09:30:29 PM
i wanted proof and God gave it to me. Science supports his existence you know the truth you just reject it. He created the earth. He made everything in six days and rested on the seventh.
Earlier in the thread, you proved that you have no earthly idea what the word hypocrite means. Now its becoming apparent you also have no idea what the word science means. I suggest you spend a little less time with you nose in your bible and a little more time with your nose in a dictionary.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 16, 2014, 05:27:35 PMGod did not create sin man did.
How is it possible for man to create a concept so powerful that it leaves God with no choice but to accept it as a damnation for all of humanity? Besides, you already admitted in this thread that God is responsible for everything. I would guess "creating that which damns humans to eternal torture" falls under everything.
Also you didn't respond to anything else in my post. Can you please explain why God, who knows everything, would
sacrifice himself to himself in order to change his own mind about something he knew about thousands of years before? What type of solution to sin is that?
Did God create himself? Jesus H. Christ, how would anyone know about God? Where is the evidence? And science in no way proves God exist. First of all science is about the world we live in, accept neurology, which has shown that even atheist can have a religious experience when the brain is stimulated in the right place. Also science is ever changing and tentative, and not about absolute unchanging knowledge like religion is: frozen in time with no escape accept into madness. Solitary
Quote from: Solitary on April 17, 2014, 11:59:03 AMneurology, which has shown that even atheist can have a religious experience when the brain is stimulated in the right place.
Are you talking about near-death experiences? Those happen because the brain isn't getting enough blood and thinks it's dying, so for comfort it creates a very realistic feeling dream about something good. This is why religious people see the light at the end of the tunnel and angels and all that jazz. I flat-lined in the hospital once and didn't experience anything. It was just a nap for me.
You don't have to be dying to experience these dreams, however. Astronauts in training have to go through increased gravity training to prepare their bodies for launch. Because they're being whipped around in a circle so fast, the blood leaves the brain, the astronaut passes out, and they experience the same type of near-death experience dream that dying people do. However, since they know they're not in any sort of mortal danger, when they wake up they usually say something about a weird dream they just had.
You people ask too many difficult questions for walker to answer logically. It's clear his brain is not trained to do these sort of exercises and he's simply gone off the deep end a long time ago.
@Shiranu: I greatly enjoy You calling him an idiot in such an amusing way. If only people would display facts in such a manner world would be a better place :))))
Guys, don't seriously argue with an idiot. He'll bring You down to his level and beat You with experience :)) Just chill and don't bother explaining things and making sane arguments cause he's nowhere near comprehending.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on April 17, 2014, 05:26:00 AM
Walker, you passed the test. You are correct. God does exist. I am god. Go now, you are forgiven as long as you leave these infidels alone and let them figure out their own demise by themselves.
Sent via your mom
The Flying Spaghetti Monster does not like you, right now.
OH! OH!, The blood moon thing!
I just love stirring that pot of shit. :lol:
Quote from: josephpalazzo on April 17, 2014, 02:43:08 PM
The Flying Spaghetti Monster does not like you, right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY4jAcmey8k
Quote from: pioteir on April 17, 2014, 02:36:18 PM
You people ask too many difficult questions for walker to answer logically. It's clear his brain is not trained to do these sort of exercises and he's simply gone off the deep end a long time ago.
@Shiranu: I greatly enjoy You calling him an idiot in such an amusing way. If only people would display facts in such a manner world would be a better place :))))
Guys, don't seriously argue with an idiot. He'll bring You down to his level and beat You with experience :)) Just chill and don't bother explaining things and making sane arguments cause he's nowhere near comprehending.
Well if i am such an idiot mind how i am i still talking to the idiots yelling i am an idiot like a two year old. It is honestly precious it is like a little group of atheist here that think they can beat down any other truth. Ok how i about proving my logic with some facts because i agree i have not given much. Why should i though? You all do not want to listen to a stupid Christian right? Because all Christians are stupid? So how about i expose the light on science proving God real because ya'll do not even know your science. Instead of saying you are right prove you are right. If you want to make me feel like and idiot you have failed so far but i will give you a chance. If you do not give even a morsel of evidence i am probably going to give up on you people on this topic.
Quote from: Johan on April 17, 2014, 07:15:28 AM
Earlier in the thread, you proved that you have no earthly idea what the word hypocrite means. Now its becoming apparent you also have no idea what the word science means. I suggest you spend a little less time with you nose in your bible and a little more time with your nose in a dictionary.
The dictionary i have read it enough trust me and the bible i keep it on me because of people like you. You think you are so awesome and superior but you are nothing compared to Jesus. (PS Hypocrite means - the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense. Science - the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.)
Quote from: Jason78 on April 17, 2014, 02:27:22 AM
No, I must not. I am not a Christian.
If you wont follow your own rules, then why should I?
I do not believe that you have the courage of your convictions.
Because if you do not then you are a hypocrite by definition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTHW9S2JnhA And my message to everyone!
OMG OMG OMG! It's Chuck Norris come to kick our asses into line.. :eek:
Only someone named Walker could know all this Jesusly knowledge!
Note: That's my nice way of saying piss off Jesusfreak. :think:
QuoteWell if i am such an idiot mind how i am i still talking to the idiots yelling i am an idiot like a two year old.
If I was yelling I promise you it wouldn't be as polite as I have put it so far ;).
QuoteInstead of saying you are right prove you are right.
You are the one claiming that science proves the illogical, that is you're burden to substantiate... not ours. The majority of scientists, even if they are religious, for the most part will not say, "Yes, science CLEARLY proves there is a god". You will get from the religious community in the sciences, "I FEEL that this is god's work" but never a blunt "science has proven God!" remark.
Your position is both illogical and contradictory to what the experts say. If you have proof that science without a doubt proves god... write it down, get it peer reviewed, win a Nobel prize for it and then come back and tell me how much of an idiot I was for doubting you.
QuoteIf you want to make me feel like and idiot you have failed so far but i will give you a chance.
I never had intention to make you "feel" like an idiot, I just wanted to point out the obvious... that you're uh... ummm... yeah...
QuoteIf you do not give even a morsel of evidence i am probably going to give up on you people on this topic.
:roll:
See above; you are the one claiming to have found the secret... and without knowing the secret it will be very hard to disprove it.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 18, 2014, 12:58:19 AM
Because if you do not then you are a hypocrite by definition.
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hyp·o·crite [hip-uh-krit] Show IPA
noun
1.
a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2.
a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, especially one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
When did we start this "nice" crap with these clowns? Did I miss that meeting or something?
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 18, 2014, 12:58:19 AM
Well if i am such an idiot mind how i am i still talking to the idiots yelling i am an idiot like a two year old. It is honestly precious it is like a little group of atheist here that think they can beat down any other truth.
What dafuq is "any other truth"??? Either something is true or it's not. Either it's a scientific fact or it's not. Up till now you didn't produce any kind of appealing argument to make us think about, let alone persuade us to believe you.
Second: We don't yell at you, we calmly and logically explain things and try to reason with you. That's not something I would call idiotic. On the other hand you just flap your gums claiming you know some truth, but have no evidence to support it. Despite our efforts you still don't intend to produce even a single sound argument - which makes you an... well... uhh...
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 18, 2014, 12:58:19 AM
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Ok how i about proving my logic with some facts because i agree i have not given much. Why should i though? You all do not want to listen to a stupid Christian right? Because all Christians are stupid? ...
It doesn't matter WHO says something, it's WHAT he says. It doesn't matter if you're xtian, muslim or hindu, atheist, man, woman or child. If you've got something to say make sure it makes any kind of sense. Then we can talk. Otherwise you're an idiot so don't waste our time. If you claim to know some "truth" unavailable to us and want us to acknowledge, then for the x-th time, burden of proof lies on your side. I mus agree with you on one point, you didn't give us much facts, if any.
You better pray people don't judge all xtians based on your example. There were (and still are) some well informed, knowing what they talk about christians on this forum. Not everyone's as ignorant as you. We do not put all xtians into one bag, apparently you do.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 18, 2014, 12:58:19 AM
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So how about i expose the light on science proving God real because ya'll do not even know your science.
...
After all this time we're still waiting...
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 18, 2014, 12:58:19 AM
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You think you are so awesome and superior but you are nothing compared to Jesus.
...
We never claimed we are awesome or superior (which we are).
Jesus is nothing compared to superman, batman or even mickey mouse so.... uhh... yeah... you're an idiot...
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 18, 2014, 12:58:19 AM
You think you are so awesome and superior but you are nothing compared to Jesus.
1. I do not think I am awesome or superior to anyone and nothing I've written here would indicate otherwise.
2. I exist, jesus does not. Therefore technically, jesus is nothing compared to me.
Quote(PS Hypocrite means - the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense. Science - the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.)
Oh for fuck sake. Asking you whether or not you HAVE something does not equate to claiming to HAVE that same thing yourself. By your definition, anyone who asks any question which they themselves cannot answer in the positive would be a hypocrite. That's not how it works son. Please find an English teacher and ask them to sit you down and explain to you why asking someone if they have a grilled cheese sandwich when you yourself do not have a grilled cheese sandwich does not make you a hypocrite. Ask them to explain it to you a lot. Ask them to test you on it a lot so as to verify that you actually understand it. Because right now you clearly do not.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 18, 2014, 01:40:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTHW9S2JnhA And my message to everyone!
Couldn't help but notice that she wasn't wearing a Burqa... Dude, you really should take this Islam thing seriously. I'm just trying to save your soul. Now go put some cloth on her, a headscarf at least man.
Otherwise her hair will conjur up lustfulness and immoral thoughts in mens' minds and hearts.
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on April 18, 2014, 10:41:42 AM
Otherwise her hair will conjur up lustfulness and immoral thoughts in mens' minds and hearts.
LOL! Maybe in your mind and heart MO, but after having seen what cannot be unseen I'm going to be perfectly safe from such thoughts myself.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on April 18, 2014, 11:19:20 AM
LOL! Maybe in your mind and heart MO, but after having seen what cannot be unseen I'm going to be perfectly safe from such thoughts myself.
Dat hair tho'... :cool:
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 18, 2014, 01:40:57 AMSomething stupid somewhere.
You do realize that I don't have a choice in accepting your Jesus, right? I cannot make myself believe. It's impossible.
OK so my choice is
Accept Jesus
Perish
Um, OK. Gotcha. Except that isn't a choice, that is a threat. A choice is one from column A and one from column B.
This kind of choice is why people look to see if the source for the choice is actually real, and therefore unavoidable.
SURPRISE! It's not real! And therefore avoidable. Bye now.
8 pages? :doh:
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on April 16, 2014, 09:42:42 PM
You know God is responsible for everything ever? Let's just say your god is real for a second. If he is, you willingly worship a monster who willingly creates people he knows will end up in hell. That's disgusting to me.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 18, 2014, 01:40:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTHW9S2JnhA And my message to everyone!
That's the worst drag queen I've ever seen.
Quote from: Jason78 on April 18, 2014, 03:00:01 AM
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hyp·o·crite [hip-uh-krit] Show IPA
noun
1.
a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2.
a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, especially one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
I already wrote down the definition of hypocrite but thanks for repeating. And fine here are some laws from your science that prove him. The law of information, law of cause and effect, but i think the first one debunked the conversation. Now where is some of yours?
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on April 18, 2014, 10:41:42 AM
Couldn't help but notice that she wasn't wearing a Burqa...
STONE HER TO DEATH!
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 19, 2014, 11:17:17 AM
And fine here are some laws from your science that prove him. The law of information, law of cause and effect, but i think the first one debunked the conversation. Now where is some of yours?
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:eek: I haven't been that fucked up on Shrooms, LSD, and 150 proof rum and coke all at the same time---yeah, that kind of coke. :wall:
Quote... The law of information...
The only reference to this is on creation.com. That is not a law, that is something someone pulled out of their ass, and looking at their definitions of it... wow. Just wow.
Quote...law of cause and effect...
I am assuming you mean, "nothing can come from nothing" in which case your god does the same thing or existed forever; and if god can exist forever than the universe can as well, making it a draw in this regard.
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on April 18, 2014, 07:44:30 PM
That's the worst drag queen I've ever seen.
Yeah. And the lady on the left doesn't look too good either.
LOL I just want to add.
I love how every christian says that they are "The worst christian" That's hilarious. I can't even breath from, how hard I'm laughing right now. A baby that told a small lie is as bad as Hitler? (who I might add was catholic and doing god's work)
What would a baby lie about? "No mommy I didn't poop in my pants" :lol:
Yeah. that shit is as bad as mass slaughter...
:wtff:
Quote from: PickelledEggs on April 19, 2014, 04:48:34 PM
LOL I just want to add.
I love how every christian says that they are "The worst christian" That's hilarious. I can't even breath from, how hard I'm laughing right now. A baby that told a small lie is as bad as Hitler? (who I might add was catholic and doing god's work)
What would a baby lie about? "No mommy I didn't poop in my pants" :lol:
Yeah. that shit is as bad as mass slaughter...
:wtff:
I was not the worst christian i was not even a christian a hypocrite who said he was a christian. I am glad i made you laugh because it makes me smile when others laugh. When i said baby that means somewhere around a three year old. In God's eyes it is as bad because all sin is the same to him.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 19, 2014, 11:05:12 PM
I was not the worst christian i was not even a christian a hypocrite who said he was a christian. I am glad i made you laugh because it makes me smile when others laugh. When i said baby that means somewhere around a three year old. In God's eyes it is as bad because all sin is the same to him.
Then your god doesn't deserve an iota of respect.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 19, 2014, 11:05:12 PM
I was not the worst christian i was not even a christian a hypocrite who said he was a christian. I am glad i made you laugh because it makes me smile when others laugh. When i said baby that means somewhere around a three year old. In God's eyes it is as bad because all sin is the same to him.
There is practically zero things a 3 year old can do that is as horrid as what Hitler did in the name of god. Shit, there barely anyone that did anything close to as disgusting as what he did with his holocaust. If you are going to say that a lie coming from a 3 year old is comparable to genocide you have a serious problem. And this is coming from me, someone that is blunt as fuck to everyone. I don't even sugar coat things to my own family, let alone believe in telling flat out lies.
I'm going to tell you why I have a problem with what you believe in two parts.
1 Thinking all things that are wrong are all equally bad is harmful: When people think like this, it leads them to restraining from "sin". Sin is an extremely ambiguous load of crap that is against gods will. Masturbation is sin and it doesn't hurt anyone, but yet you've been doing it on this forum for about 30 posts now. When people restrain themselves from being human and not committing sin, it backs all their human needs, which never ends well.
2 Being good doesn't get you in to heaven but you can be forgiven for your sins by having faith in Jesus is ALSO harmful: It has less to do with us nonbelievers than it has to do with you mindless sheep. This is where the root of the arguments I have with people about morality always come to a crashing end. Where do I get my morals from? Why do I try to do good things for others? because it makes me feel good, because I know we as a species need to stick together. But when you have people thinking that it doesn't matter if you try to make up for your bad things by doing good things, the main thing that lets you get "Saved by Jesus" is accepting him as your savior is a fucking joke. People that believe that Jesus will save them, just for them accepting him as their savior is such an easy way out in a horribly incorrect way. It removes every bit of responsibility for your actions. Because "as long as you believe in Jesus" you get your ticket to heaven.
Have a nice life. Unless you start saying something intelligent and not frustrating for me to read, I'm done talking to you.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 19, 2014, 11:05:12 PMIn God's eyes it is as bad because all sin is the same to him.
The guy from whom all morality allegedly derives can't distinguish major infractions from trivial ones.
Priceless.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 19, 2014, 11:17:17 AM
I already wrote down the definition of hypocrite but thanks for repeating.
So have you become a christian yet?
Quote from: Jason78 on April 20, 2014, 04:39:27 AM
So have you become a christian yet?
Please don't undo my hard work Jason, I've been trying to get him to accept Islam.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 15, 2014, 09:57:32 AM
I hate religion. They come with stupid man made rules that tell us to be perfect and don't have fun. I follow Jesus alone nothing added or taken.
Proof at last, that you are what you eat. Stupid goes in..stupid comes out.
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on April 20, 2014, 05:32:54 AM
Please don't undo my hard work Jason, I've been trying to get him to accept Islam.
I propose a battle to the death for his very soul!
Quote from: Jason78 on April 20, 2014, 06:11:00 AM
I propose a battle to the death for his very soul!
At long last, the true God, Allah, will be undeniably proven in this fight over Walker_Lee's soul.
The Walker shall walk allong Allah. It is foreseen.
Every word in the bable is the absolute truth except the parts that are flat out lies. I mean it's so easy man! :eyes:
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 19, 2014, 11:05:12 PM
I was not the worst christian i was not even a christian a hypocrite who said he was a christian. I am glad i made you laugh because it makes me smile when others laugh. When i said baby that means somewhere around a three year old. In God's eyes it is as bad because all sin is the same to him.
Dude . Please stop the trolling. Most members of this site are really cool people but we are really tired of theists trolls shitting the boards. Some trolls are funny and you aren't funny at all.
Quote from: leo on April 20, 2014, 01:15:30 PM
Dude . Please stop the trolling. Most members of this site are really cool people but we are really tired of theists trolls shitting the boards. Some trolls are funny and you aren't funny at all.
I am no troll.
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on April 20, 2014, 06:16:17 AM
At long last, the true God, Allah, will be undeniably proven in this fight over Walker_Lee's soul.
The Walker shall walk allong Allah. It is foreseen.
I will never follow some religion.
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 20, 2014, 01:57:32 AM
The guy from whom all morality allegedly derives can't distinguish major infractions from trivial ones.
Priceless.
It may be a difference in your eyes but sin is sin to God.
Quote from: Jason78 on April 20, 2014, 04:39:27 AM
So have you become a christian yet?
I am not a christian i am a follower of Jesus alone Christians are usually fakes.
Quote from: Shiranu on April 19, 2014, 11:07:52 PM
Then your god doesn't deserve an iota of respect.
Well he deserves way more respect then he will ever get from you anyway.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 20, 2014, 03:11:39 PM
..but sin is sin to God.
God is responsible for sin.
If:
- god knows all
- sin is disobediance to god's commands
- we are imperfect
- If god knows all, it knows we are imperfect and will disobey its commands, and thus sin
Therefore, morally the only thing god could do is never issue any commands. Otherwise it creates the possibility for sin which it already knows will happen.
Sin is god's fault because it is the only being that had any real control over the situation.
No wonder why god hates sin. Sin is its greatest fuck up. God fucked up and sin exists. Or god is simply evil. One or the other.
Quote from: the_antithesis on April 20, 2014, 03:19:57 PM
God is responsible for sin.
If:
- god knows all
- sin is disobediance to god's commands
- we are imperfect
- If god knows all, it knows we are imperfect and will disobey its commands, and thus sin
Therefore, morally the only thing god could do is never issue any commands. Otherwise it creates the possibility for sin which it already knows will happen.
Sin is god's fault because it is the only being that had any real control over the situation.
No wonder why god hates sin. Sin is its greatest fuck up. God fucked up and sin exists. Or god is simply evil. One or the other.
Well God did not create sin the devil did when he disobeyed and left him. Nice try to see if you can make God seem like the bad guy.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 20, 2014, 03:11:39 PM
It may be a difference in your eyes but sin is sin to God.
Thank Athe your sick and immoral fictional god is ... well ... fiction.
Seriously, if a god existed and it thought genocide and a white lie (perhaps even a lie used to stop said nazis from finding a jew) was equally bad ... FUCK THAT GOD. It would have zero idea what right and wrong is.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 20, 2014, 03:31:05 PM
Well God did not create sin the devil did when he disobeyed and left him. Nice try to see if you can make God seem like the bad guy.
Your god is all knowing, by your account. Your god created everything, by your account. Therefor your god created the devil, by your account. And therefor god specifically created sin - BY YOUR ACCOUNT. It's just that, by your account, he made it through a scapegoat.
What a dick.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 20, 2014, 03:31:05 PM
Well God did not create sin the devil did when he disobeyed and left him. Nice try to see if you can make God seem like the bad guy.
Nice try, yourself.
If god knows all, then god would know the devil would disobey him and created the devil anyway.
I'm not trying to make god the bad guy. Just showing you where the responsibility actually lies. If god knows all, then god is responsible. Fullstop.
Either god is responsible for sin or god does not know everything.
QuoteWell he deserves way more respect then he will ever get from you anyway.
Yeah, I'm sure Stalin and Hitler said the same thing, as did their fan boys, but I ain't about that life homie... your god's morals are disgusting at best and have no place in the 21st century.
Quote from: the_antithesis on April 20, 2014, 03:40:39 PM
Nice try, yourself.
If god knows all, then god would know the devil would disobey him and created the devil anyway.
I'm not trying to make god the bad guy. Just showing you where the responsibility actually lies. If god knows all, then god is responsible. Fullstop.
Either god is responsible for sin or god does not know everything.
^^ this . I wrote the same thing days ago but the Christian dude doesn't read the memo.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 20, 2014, 03:11:39 PM
I am not a christian i am a follower of Jesus alone Christians are usually fakes.
If you're a follower of Jesus, why do you not follow his words?
Quote from: Jason78 on April 21, 2014, 05:43:16 AM
If you're a follower of Jesus, why do you not follow his words?
Because he follows jesus to tell YOU what to do or not to do.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 20, 2014, 03:31:05 PM
Well God did not create sin the devil did when he disobeyed and left him. Nice try to see if you can make God seem like the bad guy.
What if I was commanded by god to kill someone (amalakites or whatever) and I disobeyed, would that be sin?
Quote from: pioteir on April 21, 2014, 06:32:22 AM
What if I was commanded by god to kill someone (amalakites or whatever) and I disobeyed, would that be sin?
One of the ten commandments says "thou shalt not kill" so he would not ask you to kill. Jesus said that if we look at someone with hate we already killed them in our hearts. So me you and most people have already killed anyway.
Quote from: Jason78 on April 21, 2014, 05:43:16 AM
If you're a follower of Jesus, why do you not follow his words?
I do follow his words.
Quote from: La Dolce Vita on April 20, 2014, 03:35:38 PM
Thank Athe your sick and immoral fictional god is ... well ... fiction.
Seriously, if a god existed and it thought genocide and a white lie (perhaps even a lie used to stop said nazis from finding a jew) was equally bad ... FUCK THAT GOD. It would have zero idea what right and wrong is.
Well he knows more then us so i know he has a better idea of right and wrong then us. He says it is the same to him because sin he hates no matter how big or small you rank it up to be. He hates the small fib as much as killing. Whether that lie was told to save someone it is still a sin. Also lets say you told the truth and you died because of it. IF there is nothing after this life then who cares if we die. Our life means nothing if there is no God anyway.
Quote from: the_antithesis on April 20, 2014, 03:40:39 PM
Nice try, yourself.
If god knows all, then god would know the devil would disobey him and created the devil anyway.
I'm not trying to make god the bad guy. Just showing you where the responsibility actually lies. If god knows all, then god is responsible. Fullstop.
Either god is responsible for sin or god does not know everything.
God knows everything and he did not create sin. If you can not get that then it is not my problem.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 21, 2014, 11:11:27 AM
One of the ten commandments says "thou shalt not kill" so he would not ask you to kill. Jesus said that if we look at someone with hate we already killed them in our hearts. So me you and most people have already killed anyway.
And with that, Jason, our fight to the death has been ended. We've looked at eachother with hate and so we've killed.
I submitt that I'm the most hatefull one of us both, so his soul belongs to Islam.
The Walker truly is a prophet...
Praise Allah, Allah be praised.
QuoteOne of the ten commandments says "thou shalt not kill" so he would not ask you to kill
Wow, you've never even read the babble. That means you're just a twit.
Quote from: Walker_LeeGod knows everything and he did not create sin. If you can not get that then it is not my problem.
You seem like you're not getting it, either, but I know better. This may have been the first time you've heard this. You'll hear it again and again and eventually come around. The seed of doubt has been planted and you are not strong enough to fight it.
If sin is just disobedience and god knows all, then god knew that if it issued any commands that sin would be created. So it issued commands anyway.
You are actually quite terrible at this, incidentally. The obvious weak point in the logic is the definition of sin as disobedience to god, but you are not smart enough to redefine sin, are you? Or maybe you don't want to put morality above god because you adhere to the divine command concept of morality. That is, if god said it, it is moral. You don't want to make morality something separate from and above god. So you don't take this obvious route.
Your problem, then, is your uncompromising perception of your god which you cannot have because the logic follows that either god is everything you think it is and thus responsible for sin or god is not as powerful as you think. You are trying to have your cake and eat it, too. You can't do that. All you're doing is ignoring the truth right in front of you and you can't do that for the rest of your life. Better to stop denying what you know is true and just accept it.
The very concept of sin and the salvation therefrom is too much like a made up concept. You have been manipulated and abused your entire life. I hope you get better someday.
If God created everything, then he must have also created evil. There's no way out this one.
Quote from: the_antithesis on April 21, 2014, 11:26:27 AM
You seem like you're not getting it, either, but I know better. This may have been the first time you've heard this. You'll hear it again and again and eventually come around. The seed of doubt has been planted and you are not strong enough to fight it.
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You can't do that. All you're doing is ignoring the truth right in front of you and you can't do that for the rest of your life. Better to stop denying what you know is true and just accept it.
The very concept of sin and the salvation therefrom is too much like a made up concept. You have been manipulated and abused your entire life. I hope you get better someday.
I have heard it all before and i am still very firm in my belief of God. I have doubted before i was truly saved from hell. There is nothing you can say that will plant doubt in my mind. You are ignoring the real truth which is that there is a God. "Better to stop denying what you know is true and just accept it."
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 21, 2014, 11:45:18 AM
I have heard it all before and i am still very firm in my belief of God. I have doubted before i was truly saved from hell. There is nothing you can say that will plant doubt in my mind. You are ignoring the real truth which is that there is a God. "Better to stop denying what you know is true and just accept it."
Everything that happened, happened inside your mind. Religion is highly subjective. Until you truly weigh the evidence objectively, by looking at all the facts impartially, you can not truly say you have studied the truth.
But you have neither the means nor the courage to do that. You are stuck in your religious rut and always will be.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 21, 2014, 11:11:27 AM
One of the ten commandments says "thou shalt not kill" so he would not ask you to kill.
What about the amalekites? Sodom and Gomorrah? What about stoning people to death for having sex before marriage, committing adultery etc? What about all the verses that serve death as punishment for smallest crimes or even misdemeanor?
You know what happenned after the old dude got his ten commandments? .... YES!!! He ordered a massacre!!!
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 21, 2014, 11:11:27 AM
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Well he knows more then us so i know he has a better idea of right and wrong then us.
So you're telling me that you know the mind of god? How very humble (and christian) of you.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 21, 2014, 11:11:27 AM
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Our life means nothing if there is no God anyway.
Maybe yours don't mean anything. I like my life. Who the fuck are you to tell me my life is meaningless without your nutbag supreme leader? Again, so very humble and christian of you.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 21, 2014, 11:45:18 AM
You are ignoring the real truth which is that there is a God.
What's a god?
When someone comes here and is asked questions and they don't respond to me I suspect they are trolls. (http://i.imgur.com/1ZfqOL0.jpg) (http://imgur.com/1ZfqOL0)
Quote from: the_antithesis on April 21, 2014, 12:15:34 PM
What's a god?
It's simple. jesus is god, and god is jesus. Add some math magic and you get:
jesus = god, god = jesus, so
jesus = jesus and god = godI hope that explains everything :)
Quote from: the_antithesis on April 21, 2014, 11:26:27 AM
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All you're doing is ignoring the truth right in front of you and you can't do that for the rest of your life.
Hate to break it to ya but not all mentally ill get better. Sorry :(
Like the pastor who thought he could handle venomous snakes. Well he died after getting bitten, still believing his crap.
oh, and not all dogs go to heaven either.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 21, 2014, 11:11:27 AM
... IF there is nothing after this life then who cares if we die. Our life means nothing if there is no God anyway. ...
I'm not the one wasting my one life imagining that it's just a waiting room until I get to heaven and begin my "real" life.
Life is precious to most atheists because we realize it's the only one we have. You telling us that our lives are "nothing" is highly insulting. If you had any morality at all, you'd apologize.
I don't expect an apology, though. He's just not smart enough to get it.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 21, 2014, 11:11:27 AM
I do follow his words.
I've yet to see any evidence of that. You don't exactly present yourself with a christ-like demeanour.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 21, 2014, 11:45:18 AMThere is nothing you can say that will plant doubt in my mind.
Textbook definition of close-minded.
Quote from: pioteir on April 21, 2014, 12:31:18 PM
It's simple. jesus is god, and god is jesus. Add some math magic and you get:
jesus = god, god = jesus, so
jesus = jesus and god = god
I hope that explains everything :)
Hate to break it to ya but not all mentally ill get better. Sorry :(
Like the pastor who thought he could handle venomous snakes. Well he died after getting bitten, still believing his crap.
oh, and not all dogs go to heaven either.
I think there's like a holy spirit in there somewhere. My math skills suck, so bear with me.
Jesus=god
god=jesus,
jesus=god=god
but
the holy spirit has neither form nor mass so it is effectively a negative, so
jesus=god-holy spirit= 0
sounds right to me.
he thinks he is going to heaven. Ignoring all the signs that says he isn't. He convinced himself and now has to follow through for sheer embarrassment. That only 144,000 are permitted to go gets pushed aside as just another one of those verses that are wiggily waggily.....you know how they are..its all wiggily waggily.
Quote from: stromboli on April 21, 2014, 12:47:36 PM
I think there's like a holy spirit in there somewhere. My math skills suck, so bear with me.
Jesus=god
god=jesus,
jesus=god=god
but
the holy spirit has neither form nor mass so it is effectively a negative, so
jesus=god-holy spirit= 0
sounds right to me.
I think You're on to something with the holy spirit being a negative. Could it be that the holy spirit is what the phisicists call dark energy, filling the universe? OMFG we discovered the ultimate truth... or something :)))
The whole math posts reminded me of something I read on the net or on some t-shirt or somethin:
god + truth = life
but then god = life - truth and it follows that truth = life - god :)
Quote from: pioteir on April 21, 2014, 01:00:29 PMThe whole math posts reminded me of something I read on the net or on some t-shirt or somethin:
god + truth = life
but then god = life - truth and it follows that truth = life - god :)
And god = life - truth. :smile2:
Wow, we seem to have stumbled on to something here....
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 21, 2014, 11:11:27 AM
Also lets say you told the truth and you died because of it. IF there is nothing after this life then who cares if we die. Our life means nothing if there is no God anyway.
Wrong you dumb cunt. If there's no afterlife that means that life is valuable. How fucking dumb are you? If we continue after we're dead, and that state is eternal, then one shouldn't care if one dies. The less time we have, the more value every single second gets. You got everything backwards. How can you be this dumb?
QuoteWalker_Lee
IF there is nothing after this life then who cares if we die. Our life means nothing if there is no God anyway.
Quote from: La Dolce Vita on April 21, 2014, 01:45:13 PM
Wrong you dumb cunt. If there's no afterlife that means that life is valuable. How fucking dumb are you? If we continue after we're dead, and that state is eternal, then one shouldn't care if one dies. The less time we have, the more value every single second gets. You got everything backwards. How can you be this dumb?
He, he, God works in mysterious ways...
What choices do I have?
You can choose to believe that some stories in a very old book are true and there really is a magic man in the sky who will grant you eternal life if you don't fuck up even though that magic man designed you to fuck up and knows you will fuck up. You can choose to believe this is true even though there is overwhelming evidence that it isn't true and absolutely zero evidence that it is.
Or you can choose to look at the facts and believe what they tell you.
Hey Walker,
What did your god do to Anne Frank after she died? She was a jewish girl who worshipped your god all her life, but she never accepted your jebus. She was killed in a horrible way by people who did accept your jebus. Some of them even genuinly believed they were doing god's will killing her and millions of other jews, because the jews were the people who alledgedly nailed your alledged jebus to the cross.
QuoteFaith is an act of pride.
"Pride goes before the falleth of man" Solitary
Quote from: Bibliofagus on April 22, 2014, 02:40:00 PM
Hey Walker,
What did your god do to Anne Frank after she died? She was a jewish girl who worshipped your god all her life, but she never accepted your jebus. She was killed in a horrible way by people who did accept your jebus. Some of them even genuinly believed they were doing god's will killing her and millions of other jews, because the jews were the people who alledgedly nailed your alledged jebus to the cross.
Hey, once in a while God fucks it all up. Shit, he's running the universe. You think it's easy? Can you give him some slack?!?
Quote from: josephpalazzo on April 22, 2014, 05:56:58 PM
Hey, once in a while God fucks it all up. Shit, he's running the universe. You think it's easy? Can you give him some slack?!?
Hey, well you can't know everything.
Oh wait... :lol:
Quote from: La Dolce Vita on April 21, 2014, 01:45:13 PM
Wrong you dumb cunt. If there's no afterlife that means that life is valuable. How fucking dumb are you? If we continue after we're dead, and that state is eternal, then one shouldn't care if one dies. The less time we have, the more value every single second gets. You got everything backwards. How can you be this dumb?
Wow you are just the most polite person i have ever talked to. How dumb am I? I'm not and trust me i am not being closed minded by saying that. You got it backwards you do not get the point. If there is no life after death it means we are meaningless. If there is not God life is meaningless.
Quote from: Bibliofagus on April 22, 2014, 02:40:00 PM
Hey Walker,
What did your god do to Anne Frank after she died? She was a jewish girl who worshipped your god all her life, but she never accepted your jebus. She was killed in a horrible way by people who did accept your jebus. Some of them even genuinly believed they were doing god's will killing her and millions of other jews, because the jews were the people who alledgedly nailed your alledged jebus to the cross.
A true Jew does not believe in Jesus is God. That means she would go to hell. I do not care if people think God tells them to kill someone that is not what they heard from God i can guarantee it.
How do you know the fate of Anne frank? Have you spoken to her personally? I am a Christian and I am irritated when people state an opinion as a fact, you do not know if Anne Frank is in hell, and everyone (including you and me) will be judged for our actions
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 23, 2014, 02:26:57 PM
Wow you are just the most polite person i have ever talked to. How dumb am I? I'm not and trust me i am not being closed minded by saying that. You got it backwards you do not get the point. If there is no life after death it means we are meaningless. If there is not God life is meaningless.A true Jew does not believe in Jesus is God. That means she would go to hell. I do not care if people think God tells them to kill someone that is not what they heard from God i can guarantee it.
Really ? she was killed by a christasrd and she is going to hell for not believing in Jebus? And life is meaningless without your sky daddy dictator ? Wow you are so full of shit. With your help I will crap the biggest turd ever . I will make a new Guinness record. All thanks to you.
Quote from: Contemporary Protestant on April 23, 2014, 02:32:07 PM
How do you know the fate of Anne frank? Have you spoken to her personally? I am a Christian and I am irritated when people state an opinion as a fact, you do not know if Anne Frank is in hell, and everyone (including you and me) will be judged for our actions
I know what the bible says and IF she was a true Jew which means she did not believe in God she would go to hell. God judges us by are actions but sin is all the same to him. When God judges the way he does a little fib is the same as a murder. So lets mark that up we know everyone sins that means she sinned. Also she does not believe in Jesus. By not believe in Jesus alone she would go to hell but then she is also a sinner like us all. That is how i can say by what we know about her that is where she would go. I am not saying if we both go to heaven we might find her but i am saying by what we know about her hell is where the verdict would land.
The post above proves without doubt that you are a troll. The guys will have fun with you . So don't worry.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 23, 2014, 02:26:57 PM
A true Jew does not believe in Jesus is God. That means she would go to hell. I do not care if people think God tells them to kill someone that is not what they heard from God i can guarantee it.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 23, 2014, 03:29:28 PM
I know what the bible says and IF she was a true Jew which means she did not believe in God she would go to hell. God judges us by are actions but sin is all the same to him. When God judges the way he does a little fib is the same as a murder. So lets mark that up we know everyone sins that means she sinned. Also she does not believe in Jesus. By not believe in Jesus alone she would go to hell but then she is also a sinner like us all. That is how i can say by what we know about her that is where she would go. I am not saying if we both go to heaven we might find her but i am saying by what we know about her hell is where the verdict would land.
Okay, I'm going to stop with the Islam-joke on this thread. It probably stopped being funny a while ago for the rest, but I no longer find this funny myself. For you've just passed the threshold of pityfull goof into horrendous monster.
You, sir, are an immoral creep. A cretin of the lowest order. The vulgar display of your moral compass is an insult to humanity itself.
For even if there were a God, to bow the head to the immoral dictator you've portrayed to believe in is an act of disgrace void of any dignity, redemption or empathy for your fellow species.
The rest of us do not believe or at least do not believe in the psychopath you revere. But to do so and then call him just is about the lowest you can sink as a human being and is to throw away all sense of right and wrong along with all that is human in nature.
For shame.
Walker_Lee must believe in John 16:23,
23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.
Did God always respond to your request?
QuoteYou got it backwards you do not get the point. If there is no life after death it means we are meaningless. If there is not God life is meaningless.
Correction; YOUR life is meaningless. Don't speak for the rest of us, thanks.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 23, 2014, 03:29:28 PM
I know what the bible says and IF she was a true Jew which means she did not believe in God she would go to hell. God judges us by are actions but sin is all the same to him. When God judges the way he does a little fib is the same as a murder. So lets mark that up we know everyone sins that means she sinned. Also she does not believe in Jesus. By not believe in Jesus alone she would go to hell but then she is also a sinner like us all. That is how i can say by what we know about her that is where she would go. I am not saying if we both go to heaven we might find her but i am saying by what we know about her hell is where the verdict would land.
Teenager who never hurt a fly and who by all accounts was a really amiable and promising kid ---> Hell
The Nazis who imprisoned her in horrifying conditions where she ultimately died ---> Heaven
Sounds like a winning belief system.
Yeah, I have a choice. I'm not going to worship a god who basically made one big cock up after another. When I build shit it runs right the first time.
I have a quote for you walker, it isn't in the bible but i like it and think it applies here
"anyone who claims to have seen the light, is in darkness"
Basically its referring to people who think they know the secrets of the universe. I am a Christian, but you will not find a quote were I claim to be enlightened, you will find quotes were I am quick to admit my mistake. I will never say another religion is false because I do not know that, I have found several religions I can admire and respect. Mainly eastern philosophies and Judaism.
My advice to you (as a fellow believer) is to just listen, not say anything, just listen. I started doing that a year ago and it has helped me, but I have a question for you.
If Anne Frank was a Jew, doesn't that make her a child of God? Isn't the Mosaic (Old) Covenant still in effect for Jews?
So wouldn't Anne Frank be in heaven? And if not heaven, Sheol?
I believe that I should live according to the Blood (New) Covenant because I am not Jewish
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 23, 2014, 03:29:28 PM
I know what the bible says and IF she was a true Jew which means she did not believe in God she would go to hell. God judges us by are actions but sin is all the same to him. When God judges the way he does a little fib is the same as a murder. So lets mark that up we know everyone sins that means she sinned. Also she does not believe in Jesus. By not believe in Jesus alone she would go to hell but then she is also a sinner like us all. That is how i can say by what we know about her that is where she would go. I am not saying if we both go to heaven we might find her but i am saying by what we know about her hell is where the verdict would land.
You are addicted to a pathetic, infantile and immoral religion. Please seek appropriate secular treatment.
Wait. God doesn't know the difference between a harmless lack of belief in him by a good person vs mass murder by someone who does?
I thought he was all knowing?
Sounds like he's an incredibly ignorant "all knowing" god.
Coward, he ran away when people were critical of his beliefs
Quote from: Contemporary Protestant on April 24, 2014, 11:05:54 PM
Coward, he ran away when people were critical of his beliefs
Pretty typical around these parts. Troll comes in, does his troll thing, gets trounced, runs away with tail tucked between his legs.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on April 24, 2014, 11:18:17 PM
Pretty typical around these parts. Troll comes in, does his troll thing, gets trounced, runs away with tail tucked between his legs.
More like "runs away proclaiming victory"
When did i run away? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfAPszzkMTI
I suggest you read Galatians compadre
As an atheist, I can honestly say that I would much rather the company of Contemporary Protestant to that of Walker_Lee, for Contemporary Protestant is willing to reflect on new information and admit when they are wrong. Walker_Lee lacks this character and is a picture perfect example of a hypocrite. He sets standards for himself and not only fails to meet them, but tries to pretend that he has met them in an effort to keep face. Contemporary Protestant has been shown to be empathetic with a firm belief that their God of choice is moral. So much so that when a moral conflict arises, they are willing to accept that the supposed facts about God could be wrong or that information is lacking. Walker_Lee is quick to accept a sociopath for a God because his morality extends no further than blind obedience.
My problem with Walker_Lee is not so much his religion of choice, but his character - he has none. He has not demonstrated himself to be a person of redeeming qualities in any way. It's my firm belief that with or without religion, he would still be an awful person looking for something to hide behind to cover his lack of humanity.
I'm still disgusted by how summarily he dismisses a girl who suffered horribly at the hands of the Nazi's as being justifiably worthy of hell. Holy shit that's serial killer level of loss of empathy. Seriously, that lack of morality makes me wonder where Walker_Lee is currently hiding the bodies right now.
Quote from: Aletheia on April 25, 2014, 12:59:50 AM
As an atheist, I can honestly say that I would much rather the company of Contemporary Protestant to that of Walker_Lee, for Contemporary Protestant is willing to reflect on new information and admit when they are wrong. Walker_Lee lacks this character and is a picture perfect example of a hypocrite. He sets standards for himself and not only fails to meet them, but tries to pretend that he has met them in an effort to keep face. Contemporary Protestant has been shown to be empathetic with a firm belief that their God of choice is moral. So much so that when a moral conflict arises, they are willing to accept that the supposed facts about God could be wrong or that information is lacking. Walker_Lee is quick to accept a sociopath for a God because his morality extends no further than blind obedience.
My problem with Walker_Lee is not so much his religion of choice, but his character - he has none. He has not demonstrated himself to be a person of redeeming qualities in any way. It's my firm belief that with or without religion, he would still be an awful person looking for something to hide behind to cover his lack of humanity.
I'm still disgusted by how summarily he dismisses a girl who suffered horribly at the hands of the Nazi's as being justifiably worthy of hell. Holy shit that's serial killer level of loss of empathy. Seriously, that lack of morality makes me wonder where Walker_Lee is currently hiding the bodies right now.
Ok i have no religion, and how am i a hypocrite? I live by what i believe in Jesus. Unless you have the record of my life 24/7 then you not even prove it. I do not care if you look at my life because i know i am not a hypocrite. Also i am saying that Jewish girl would go to hell if she did not repent and believe and Jesus. It does not matter how she died if it was brutal or not. We are all worthy of hell by God's standards. If do not repent and receive Jesus we will go to hell. If you find that has no morals then that is fine.
QuoteIt does not matter how she died if it was brutal or not. We are all worthy of hell by God's standards.
Yeah, that's the thing right there... that is fucking terrible.
QuoteIf you find that has no morals then that is fine.
No, no it's really not. Even if it was just you that believed like that, it would be terrible. But the problem is we have a huge percentage of society running around believing the exact same shit, that their fellow man deserves eternal (which I don't believe you fully grasp the concept of) torture because... god is a jealous bitch.
Society should not hate, or disregard, his fellow man so easily. It is NOT okay that we have immoral people like you with such disdain for their fellow man because that is not a healthy mindset to have. Besides being factually wrong it is simply, ethically wrong to be such as cold and terrible person as it would take to believe what you are saying.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 25, 2014, 01:35:27 AM
Ok i have no religion
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Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 25, 2014, 01:35:27 AM
Ok i have no religion, and how am i a hypocrite? I live by what i believe in Jesus. Unless you have the record of my life 24/7 then you not even prove it. I do not care if you look at my life because i know i am not a hypocrite. Also i am saying that Jewish girl would go to hell if she did not repent and believe and Jesus. It does not matter how she died if it was brutal or not. We are all worthy of hell by God's standards. If do not repent and receive Jesus we will go to hell. If you find that has no morals then that is fine.
First off: If you follow a religious text and believe in a messiah, a God and a certain way of living to appease that God and actually practie it, you are practicing a religion.
But, more, importantly...
Your God's standards are unfair, immoral and sociopathic. They lack any sense of 'right' and 'wrong' and depend on guilt-trip, human sacrifice and total abandonement of all rational and emotional faculties. I wouldn't call you a hypocrite. I would call you a coward revering a non-existant serial killer and sadist who in his cowardice abandons his fellow man and humanity itself to be spared. If your God were existant the moral thing would be to say something akin to: "Fuck you Yahweh, if you're going to send people to hell for not believing in you, I want you to send me too. I'd rather suffer with my kind than share heaven with you."
Only the coward, the sociopath or an impressionable child could say: "Sure My Lord, they had it coming."
Basically your God is a bully holding a weak kid's hand and using it to hit him in the face with it and telling him: 'why are you hitting yourself? Why are you hitting yourself?' Untill the kid says uncle admitts the bully is the greatest on the playground.
And what would make that you in this analogy? You are another weak and scrawny kid who'se telling the kid being bullied from the side; 'just admitt it, it's better this way'. You're the kid that's already given up and makes they bully's homework and gives him his lunchmoney everyday and who still gets picked on occasionaly but his deluded himself into concidering the bully as his friend and protector.
I am quickly running out of anything but loathing in my opinion of you.
The more I read this thread, the happier uI am that God cxnanit logically exist; the thought of aj divinity being so evil nearly depresses me. It is slightryl more comforting thatrs it is a construct of man, even if that says we are rather shitty beings.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 25, 2014, 01:35:27 AM
Ok i have no religion.
*then proceeds to quote christian text*
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 25, 2014, 01:35:27 AM
Ok i have no religion, and how am i a hypocrite?
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Alright, the statement "I have no religion" is something protestants will say in regards to legalism. I always considered just another way of thinking but I think Walker took it literally
Quote from: Aletheia on April 25, 2014, 12:59:50 AM
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Seriously, that lack of morality makes me wonder where Walker_Lee is currently hiding the bodies right now.
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Wonder no more. First he fucks the bodies and then eats them. There's no need to hide them.
Ok first of thanks to the people who banned me. I am will not stop coming even if you ban me again. I am here giving my opinion like you all are.
Quote from: pioteir on April 25, 2014, 09:25:32 AM
Wonder no more. First he fucks the bodies and then eats them. There's no need to hide them.
No I do not but nice plot to a horror film.
Quote from: Contemporary Protestant on April 25, 2014, 07:33:11 AM
Alright, the statement "I have no religion" is something protestants will say in regards to legalism. I always considered just another way of thinking but I think Walker took it literally
I did not get this from someone else. I came up with it by looking in the bible and realized even Jesus preached against the religious.
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on April 25, 2014, 02:41:39 AM
First off: If you follow a religious text and believe in a messiah, a God and a certain way of living to appease that God and actually practie it, you are practicing a religion.
But, more, importantly...
Your God's standards are unfair, immoral and sociopathic. They lack any sense of 'right' and 'wrong' and depend on guilt-trip, human sacrifice and total abandonement of all rational and emotional faculties. I wouldn't call you a hypocrite. I would call you a coward revering a non-existant serial killer and sadist who in his cowardice abandons his fellow man and humanity itself to be spared. If your God were existant the moral thing would be to say something akin to: "Fuck you Yahweh, if you're going to send people to hell for not believing in you, I want you to send me too. I'd rather suffer with my kind than share heaven with you."
Only the coward, the sociopath or an impressionable child could say: "Sure My Lord, they had it coming."
Basically your God is a bully holding a weak kid's hand and using it to hit him in the face with it and telling him: 'why are you hitting yourself? Why are you hitting yourself?' Untill the kid says uncle admitts the bully is the greatest on the playground.
And what would make that you in this analogy? You are another weak and scrawny kid who'se telling the kid being bullied from the side; 'just admitt it, it's better this way'. You're the kid that's already given up and makes they bully's homework and gives him his lunchmoney everyday and who still gets picked on occasionaly but his deluded himself into concidering the bully as his friend and protector.
I am quickly running out of anything but loathing in my opinion of you.
Ok you realized he could of just sent us to hell? He didn't though he died on a cross willingly to pay our debt. When he did he gave us a way to heaven. Anyone who goes to hell goes there because they choose to.
Quote from: Shiranu on April 25, 2014, 02:17:59 AM
Yeah, that's the thing right there... that is fucking terrible.
No, no it's really not. Even if it was just you that believed like that, it would be terrible. But the problem is we have a huge percentage of society running around believing the exact same shit, that their fellow man deserves eternal (which I don't believe you fully grasp the concept of) torture because... god is a jealous bitch.
Society should not hate, or disregard, his fellow man so easily. It is NOT okay that we have immoral people like you with such disdain for their fellow man because that is not a healthy mindset to have. Besides being factually wrong it is simply, ethically wrong to be such as cold and terrible person as it would take to believe what you are saying.
Ok I should not quote "Society should not hate, or disregard, his fellow man so easily" but you are hating on me and my belief. That seems hypocritical. It is not terrible because like I said he gave us a choice so anyone who goes to hell goes there because they choose to. I am not saying only other people deserve all people deserve hell including me and other true Christians. Lastly what right do you have to call my God your God a bitch.
Before his first session with a psychiatrist was over, the psychiatrist got on the couch. You got banned because your only here to annoy people with your neurotic obsession to win at any cost, delusions of grandeur, and being disingenuous about not being religious while believing in Scripture about Christ. You lie so well to yourself you don't even realize you are lying to us. Don't go away mad, just go away. Solitary
This Walter dude is insane.
Thanks for re-banning him! I wonder how many times he's going to come back?...
Sent via your mom
Until hell freezes over? Solitary
I didn't whack his IP just in case he resurrected himself as a nicer, more serene person...oh well. But alas.....even jesus had to die.
Well, going by the Jesus myth in the bible, We had Walker, followed by zombie walker, now we have the walker that will be "coming once again in your lifetime"... which probably means we will have generations of forum members telling of the day that Walker will return... to babble on about the bible.
He still never proved that he never raped and killed a child. May he ever be remembered as a child rapist and killer.
You're just a fat geek who needs to get a life, seriously. You have a choice; either enjoy your life to the fullest whilst staying moral or be an imbecile bible basher wasting your time and life. I know you will probably go with the latter, because you look like a right twat but good luck anyway, dick. :)
Meh... for Walker who is probably in stalker mode now:
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 25, 2014, 01:35:27 AM
Ok i have no religion, and how am i a hypocrite?
Quote from: google
re·li·gion
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noun: religion
1.the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
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a particular system of faith and worship.
plural noun: religions
"the world's great religions"
a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.
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Quote from: dictionary.comhyp·o·crite [hip-uh-krit] Show IPA
noun
1.a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2.a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, especially one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
You believe in a superhuman controlling power and yet you claim to have no religion, which makes you a hypocrite because you claim to lack a religion when in reality you have a religion.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 25, 2014, 01:35:27 AM
I live by what i believe in Jesus.
Nice wording. You live by what you choose to believe about Jesus and not what's in the actual texts which refer to him. I'd sidestep the issue too if I were you, since you're obviously prone to being a hypocrite.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 25, 2014, 01:35:27 AM
Unless you have the record of my life 24/7 then you not even prove it. I do not care if you look at my life because i know i am not a hypocrite.
This tiny slice of your life you've spent on this forum has already shown you to be a hypocrite. Only a single event is necessary to fit the definition of a hypocrite, not an entire lifetime of events. You can be a hypocrite today and not a hypocrite tomorrow based on the actions you choose.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 25, 2014, 01:35:27 AM
Also i am saying that Jewish girl would go to hell if she did not repent and believe and Jesus. It does not matter how she died if it was brutal or not. We are all worthy of hell by God's standards. If do not repent and receive Jesus we will go to hell. If you find that has no morals then that is fine.
It is the simple fact that it does not matter to your god how she died, what she did in life, or anything at all about her that is completely immoral. A moral God would judge a person based on their merits before rendering a verdict. The way your parents (hopefully) raised you, the way our justice system is intended to play out, and how we interact with one another is based on judging others based on their merits. This brings about a much fairer system in which others will wish to participate, it makes for a predictable set of circumstances from which informed decisions can be made, and it encourages good behavior and cooperation.
The god you describe doesn't care about fairness, encouraging good behavior, or anything at all about the person. They are only acceptable to him if they pledge loyalty to him. Nothing more.
Furthermore, this god you describe will torment anyone who does not pledge loyalty to him for all eternity. A punishment that continues on without end defies the purpose of punishment, in that the person is never given a chance to learn from their mistakes and make a different choice in the future. Instead, this god you describe summarily dismisses a person and then leaves them in agony without end, which is the highest form of cruelty imaginable.
In short, your god is an evil, unfair, and unjust god. In terms you can understand, your god is no different than the devil based on deeds alone. A benevolent god or even a fair god has no need for unending punishment. Furthermore, only an evil god would choose not to take a person's merits into consideration when judging them.
Quote from: Walker_Lee on April 25, 2014, 01:35:27 AM
Ok i have no religion, and how am i a hypocrite? I live by what i believe in Jesus. Unless you have the record of my life 24/7 then you not even prove it. I do not care if you look at my life because i know i am not a hypocrite. Also i am saying that Jewish girl would go to hell if she did not repent and believe and Jesus. It does not matter how she died if it was brutal or not. We are all worthy of hell by God's standards. If do not repent and receive Jesus we will go to hell. If you find that has no morals then that is fine.
Lucky that you live far away. I would beat the living shit out of you and felt good about it to. Fucking bitch.
Evidence of harm by religion
Quote from: Walker on April 25, 2014, 12:12:58 PMOk first of thanks to the people who banned me. I am will not stop coming even if you ban me again.
And another OAP (overly attached poster) joins the ranks. Lovely. Here's an idea: proselytize somewhere else.
QuoteOk you realized he could of just sent us to hell? He didn't though he died on a cross willingly to pay our debt. When he did he gave us a way to heaven. Anyone who goes to hell goes there because they choose to.
Turn or burn. What a choice. Btw, ad baculum is not a convincing argument and sorta makes you look like a psychotic. Why is it not convincing? Well, do you take threats of Hades seriously? Exactly. It's like telling adults to fall in line or Santa's going to "get" them. It's just not a credible threat in the slightest, and making threats like that, idle or not, makes you the bad guy.
QuoteOk I should not quote "Society should not hate, or disregard, his fellow man so easily" but you are hating on me and my belief.
By "hating" you must mean not respecting and certainly not agreeing with. Oh, boo hoo.
QuoteLastly what right do you have to call my God your God a bitch.
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QuoteOk I should not quote "Society should not hate, or disregard, his fellow man so easily" but you are hating on me and my belief.
Because I figure you are going to stalk and proxy and do all you can to come back I will respond to this even though I have no intention, nor hope, to see a response from you.
I am not hating on you, I am "hating" on your belief because your belief is terrible. I don't particularly hate your belief per-say either; I find it morally bankrupt, intellectually dishonest and detrimental to human society in a whole plethora of manners, but hatred would require some active participation on my part to go out, find your beliefs, and hate on them.
You came into our forum and presented your belief, we responded. Just because you cannot handle that does not make everyone here haters... no more than if we were to come to your home or youtube channel, talk about things you disagree with and then you get annoyed with us if we just kept going on and on and on and on about it.
QuoteIt is not terrible because like I said he gave us a choice so anyone who goes to hell goes there because they choose to.
To say this shows you have no understanding of culture nor psychology. First of there are millions upon millions of people who will never see your Christ in your way because they were raised in a culture where he simply didn't matter. The fact that he does not ring true to them while Mohammad, Buddha, Vishnu, etc. does is not a short-coming of them but does show that your prophet must not be as universally lovable as you like to believe.
I was going to keep going, but I am not going to write a 10 page essay for someone who can't even respond...
QuoteLastly what right do you have to call my God your God a bitch.
To play off of Hydra's post...
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He does not exist and, if he did, he is the most disgusting individual (even above Hitler, Stalin or Ghengis [hit or miss on how evil he really was]) to have ever existed. Therefor I have every right to call him a bitch, because that is about the politest way I can express how terrible of being he would be. Just like I would call Joffery a little bitch, even though he doesn't actually exist.
Quote from: Walker on April 25, 2014, 12:12:58 PM
Ok you realized he could of just sent us to hell? He didn't though he died on a cross willingly to pay our debt. When he did he gave us a way to heaven. Anyone who goes to hell goes there because they choose to.
Imagine the bully from the example 'could of just' sent you to the hospital. Imagine he could break every bone inside your body and put you in a full body-cast. Now imagine that he won't do that because he grabs you under his arm and tells you you are a piece of shit but that if you do his homework for the rest of your life and give him your lunchmoney and constant praise, he wont do that. He'll let you graduate and lead a succesfull life rather than be a cripple.
Is that being kind? Is that moral? Is his capability of making you suffer in any way justified? Physical superiority does not entail moral behaviour. It does not guarantee someone's nature being good.
You are simply a coward, afraid from a sociopathic all-powerfull being. At least admit it.
How in the world can anyone know what God could do, anymore than any other imaginary friend? Solitary
Just had to share this...
He stumbles every time he tries to use a word longer than two syllables.
Ok, if I'm forced to choose a religion, satanism it is. I mean what could be better, being on satans good side, and all the free butt sex I could ask for.
Jesus doesn't want us to have fun with our vaginas and penises. Satan does. That's a damn good selling point right there!
I haven't said much to trash our boy Walker, because it appears he may have learning disabilities or other problems. Sad. But if he finds comfort in his religion. I'm not going to destroy his world.
There's a guy named Walker trolling another site too.
Where
The Thinking Atheist.
Quote from: randompattern on May 13, 2014, 09:15:25 PM
The Thinking Atheist.
This walker dude is getting fucked in the ass with a cactus by Taquilamockingbird and other members, in the thinking atheist site . Karma is a bitch eh?
LMAO...I have a different SN there.
Quote from: randompattern on May 13, 2014, 09:37:11 PM
LMAO...I have a different SN there.
My user name in that site is leo too. This walker was also trolling the atheistforums org site. The dude is crazy . He in a crusade to troll all the atheist sites he can find.
I'm pablo628 over there.
I think walker may suffer from mental illness, it's kinda sad really, and I'm genuinely concerned for him
Yep I think this walker dude has some serious issues.
That makes me so sad, he's going to get hurt
Quote from: Contemporary Protestant on May 13, 2014, 09:50:35 PM
That makes me so sad, he's going to get hurt
Not really. His faculties seemed to be slightly skewed, in that he doesn't register when he is mocked per se or that he is even losing an argument. Much of his ego is shielded by a rather prevalent delusion.
I wouldn't start becoming concerned until he convinces himself that prayer is better than medical care. By then, he'll become another statistic to add to those who thought faith healing would cure their cancer or ward off viral pneumonia. When that happens, he can collect his Darwin Award and fall in rank with countless others clouded by religious delusions.