How Christianity Perverts Definitions of Good & Evil

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Daniel L.

Quote from: Blackleaf on March 26, 2022, 10:40:28 PMIf you're not actually going to respond to any of our points, you're basically admitting defeat.
I answered your point on blood sacrifice, it is an abomination. If you can't answer back you are basically admitting defeat.

Psalm 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

It goes to show you never really loved Him, nor believed. Because if you had believe, He would have revealed Himself to you:

Psalm 119:100 I understand more than the ancients, because I keep thy precepts.

John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

-You have never seen Him nor known Him:

1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

-And as for your returning to your folly:

Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

-I hope you never knew the Way of Righteousness, because if you did, and forsook it...

2 Peter 2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;

16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.

20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Mike Cl

Quote from: Daniel L. on March 28, 2022, 10:03:48 AMI answered your point on blood sacrifice, it is an abomination. If you can't answer back you are basically admitting defeat.


I (we) answered you back.  Yet you are too stupid, ignorant, cowardly, brain dead to answer our question.  Supply some data to demonstrate that your bible, jesus, god are NOT fictions.  Your quoting from your bible is equal to me quoting Elmer Fudd to prove any point. 

This isn't about you 'defeating' us or us 'defeating' you.  It should be about the exchange of ideas (or ideals) using logic and good sense.  Oops!  You are a christian, so I do realize that logic and good sense are not part of your world.  I do feel sorry for you.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Cassia

sinneth....ahhhh lol...quoteth in ye olde English me thiketh you so smart...

Blackleaf

Quote from: Daniel L. on March 28, 2022, 10:03:48 AMI answered your point on blood sacrifice, it is an abomination.

No, you did not. You ignored my points. You didn't even try to refute them. Instead, you just cherrypicked some unrelated Bible verses.

Quote from: Daniel L. on March 28, 2022, 10:03:48 AMIt goes to show you never really loved Him, nor believed. Because if you had believe, He would have revealed Himself to you

Yeah, you have to believe that, don't you? If you had known me back then, you'd have had no doubt that I was saved. But since you're only getting to know me now, you think you can tell ME about MYSELF, as if you know me better than I do. Take your circular logic and shove it up your ass.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville

Blackleaf

Quote from: Mike Cl on March 28, 2022, 10:09:31 AMI (we) answered you back.  Yet you are too stupid, ignorant, cowardly, brain dead to answer our question.  Supply some data to demonstrate that your bible, jesus, god are NOT fictions.  Your quoting from your bible is equal to me quoting Elmer Fudd to prove any point. 

This isn't about you 'defeating' us or us 'defeating' you.  It should be about the exchange of ideas (or ideals) using logic and good sense.  Oops!  You are a christian, so I do realize that logic and good sense are not part of your world.  I do feel sorry for you.

Daniel believes that people are saved when God wills them to be, not when they are convinced by logic or facts. He can't admit it, but he knows he has nothing. He just hopes that by spreading "Word of God," God will do his magic trick on someone he preordained to be saved. Of course, one has to wonder why God couldn't have just done that himself instead of relying on some dipshit on the internet. Anyway, trying to reason with this guy is a waste of time.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville

Daniel L.

Quote from: Blackleaf on March 28, 2022, 11:14:08 AMyou think you can tell ME about MYSELF, as if you know me better than I do.
Not, me. The Word rebukes you:

1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

-You went out from us that it might be made manifest, that you were not of us.
Quote from: Blackleaf on March 28, 2022, 11:19:34 AMDaniel believes that
In your own words: "you think you can tell me about MYSELF, as if you know me better than I do." I can rebuke blood sacrifices again, if that is what you really want. But if you have any other point, just let me know.

Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
Quote from: Mike Cl on March 28, 2022, 10:09:31 AMSupply some data
You rejected my data, which is:"everything that exists", but you are not the judge here, you don't get to decide if God exists or not. If you had eyes too see, you would see Him, but because of your blindness, you are left in ignorance, and because you don't humble yourself in your lack of knowledge, you don't seek it, and as long as you think you already have it, you will never find it.

Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

Mike Cl

I see Daniel.  You are a closed system.  Your head is empty and your heart tiny.  Have a good life.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Daniel L.

Quote from: Mike Cl on March 28, 2022, 02:43:55 PMYour head is empty and your heart tiny.
Well, that is just your opinion man:

Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.

1 John 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

Proverbs 17:10 A reproof entereth more into a wise man than an hundred stripes into a fool.

Mike Cl

And you just proved it again. Empty head, tiny heart and gullible to the max.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Daniel L.

Quote from: Mike Cl on March 28, 2022, 03:54:34 PMAnd you just proved it again. Empty head, tiny heart and gullible to the max.
Have you got any empirical evidence? Can you show any "data"? Or are you just quoting from The words of Mike Cl? You realize I don't even believe this Mike Cl, It would be like me quoting from Bugs Bunny to try to prove anything.

Blackleaf

We've spent more time talking to this brick wall than actually discussing the thread topic. I vote we ignore him.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville

Daniel L.

Quote from: Blackleaf on March 28, 2022, 05:40:37 PMWe've spent more time talking to this brick wall than actually discussing the thread topic. I vote we ignore him.
Thread topic is rebuked. Blood sacrifices are an abomination. And we are not saved because we "think God exists":
Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

-You can ignore me for now, but not for long.

Proverbs 8:36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

Mr.Obvious

Look, haven't checked in on this thread for a while, if ever.

Probably going to say something that's been said before.

Pardon me for being lazy.

But isn't the death of Jesus supposed to be a blood sacrifice?
"If we have to go down, we go down together!"
- Your mum, last night, requesting 69.

Atheist Mantis does not pray.

Daniel L.

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Quote from: Mr.Obvious on March 29, 2022, 08:26:50 AMBut isn't the death of Jesus supposed to be a blood sacrifice?
I understand the majority thinks this way, because they are carnally minded, and were not given to understand it from the Father. But Jesus made it plain and clear, when He taught us:
John 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

-His Blood is His Truth, His Way and His Life. The carnal red blood profiteth nothing, the Words are Spirit:

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

-The only Blood sacrifice Jesus was involved in, was the True Sacrifice of shedding His Life, His Truth and His Way, which is the Light of the world. All of these are food indeed, and drink indeed, for the Spirit that is. But the carnally minded cannot receive the things of the Spirit, so they think it was a carnal sacrifice where He shed His carnal red blood, which I already showed it is an abomination:

Psalms 51:16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

Hosea 6:6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.

Isaiah 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

Isaiah 66:3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

Jeremiah 7:5 For if ye throughly amend your ways and your doings; if ye throughly execute judgment between a man and his neighbour;
6 If ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt:
7 Then will I cause you to dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers, for ever and ever.

Hosea 8:12 I have written to him the great things of my law, but they were counted as a strange thing.
13 They sacrifice flesh for the sacrifices of mine offerings, and eat it; but the Lord accepteth them not; now will he remember their iniquity, and visit their sins: they shall return to Egypt.

Ecclesiastes 5:1 Keep thy foot when thou goest to the house of God, and be more ready to hear, than to give the sacrifice of fools: for they consider not that they do evil.



SGOS

Christian semantics and gibberish makes a stew of nonsense.