Started by Jagella, October 07, 2021, 08:29:19 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on January 08, 2022, 07:11:29 PMTribal, yes, since that's how chimps operate and early humans were likely quite similar. Spiritual? I'm going to need a citation for that.
Quote from: aitm on January 08, 2022, 10:05:40 PMI would simply suggest that your opinion is wrong. The idea that a â€œsuperiorâ€ male would not kill his second because it would lessen their hunting abilities at the sacrifice of his mating with whomever he wanted is not realistic. We have had warsâ€¦many wars over a womanâ€¦not so many over a hamburger. Give a man a fuck..heâ€™ll skip dinner for two days..give a man a filet instead of a fuck..,heâ€™ll still take the fuck,
Quote from: Mike Cl on January 09, 2022, 05:20:32 PMI'm not sure humans are inherently spiritual.
Quote from: Greatest I am on January 10, 2022, 09:53:58 AMHas the vast majority of us to date not been religious?Even today, stats favor the spiritual and religious.RegardsDL
Quote from: Greatest I am link=topic=14410.msg1305840#msg1305840 date=Perhaps you had better start using the quote function. You put idiocies into my mouth.RegardsDL
Quote from: Mike Cl on January 10, 2022, 10:22:07 AMBecause most people believe something does not constitute proof that that belief is accurate or truthful. Proof of a god(s) would constitute-----well, proof. There is none. Not a scrap. Yes, most humans believe in a higher power of some sort. And most likely, always have. Yet with the thousands upon thousands of years of belief, there is still not one single scrap of proof that a god(s) exists. That, to me, is a sort of proof against the actual existence of any such thing--god(s). Can you cite any proof whatsoever that a higher power exists?????
Quote from: Greatest I am on January 10, 2022, 09:53:58 AMHas the vast majority of us to date not been religious?RegardsDL
Quote from: Greatest I am on January 10, 2022, 11:42:27 AMI do not think a person can be forced into a belief.He or she might adopt it for a number of reasons, but that is not belief.That is why religions push faith, not belief.Yes, religions were spread by the sword.It began as a two edged sword of debate and discussion and seeking the best rules and laws to live by, then Christianity turned to inquisitions and force instead of moral arguments to persuade.Most atheists say they are spiritual. No religion is required to be so.In fact, a religion is likely a hinderance to spiritual thinking. RegardsDL
Quote from: Mike Cl on January 10, 2022, 11:50:43 AMTo semantics, again.................what does 'spiritual thinking' entail?
Quote from: Greatest I am on January 10, 2022, 01:04:01 PMIDK.Most atheists and other non-believers say they are spiritual and not religious.Let me speculate that harm reduction seems to be an atheist forte, if LaÃ¯citÃ© and atheist churches continues to be what non-believers advocate.If so, I hope atheists and other people with a decent ideology will continue these trends.RegardsDL
Quote from: Greatest I am on January 10, 2022, 11:42:27 AMI do not think a person can be forced into a belief.
Quote from: Mike Cl on January 10, 2022, 01:28:54 PMIDK either. I tend to think that each person defines it as they see it. So, to say that humans have been spiritual from the beginning is to say nothing, really. I used to say that I was spiritual and not religious. I do not like organized religions for I think they are destructive on many levels. I no longer claim to be spiritual because it is a rather meaningless thing to claim.
Quote from: aitm on January 10, 2022, 03:22:53 PMChildren......children have been indoctrinated into religion for 2000 years. Mom and Dad believe it, must be true. Ever hear of Santa Claus? As there has never been a "hard push" to "clean" their minds they still believe. Thats how it works.