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Started by Jannabear, February 21, 2016, 12:34:01 AM

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drunkenshoe

Quote from: aitm on February 22, 2016, 11:17:56 AM
...............and besides, I've "fucked" far more than 200...  :P~

For the record, I was going to make a very mean joke here for revenge, but then I decided no. I feel so mature. *Grins.
"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

aitm

Quote from: drunkenshoe on February 22, 2016, 11:23:35 AM

That kind of man chasing you observed with your daughter means the same with what you -men- have with other women for a lot of women in a different way.

Sorry, I may see an occasional guy crawling around for a women he is never going to get. The difference is, if the gal isn't interested in him she is not going to fuck him because she can. This is the basic difference.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

stromboli

I agree with aitm based on my experience. You know, that observational data shit. And neither one of us is indicating we are seeing it from a woman's point of view. But that doesn't mean we are wrong, just see it differently.

Sorry. That might be too deep a concept. So call me names or whatever. Carry on.

drunkenshoe

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Quote from: aitm on February 22, 2016, 11:29:54 AM
Sorry, I may see an occasional guy crawling around for a women he is never going to get. The difference is, if the gal isn't interested in him she is not going to fuck him because she can. This is the basic difference.

Which is completely irrelevant to our subject and again just you insisting on seeing all this through male eyes. And then yes a lot of women will fuck a man just because she can. Sometimes just because they want and just because she can 'let' them. (Do you get that?) But this will never be a public info or something to brag around for women. And most men will think this is only what they themselves do.

You don't tell your girl friends when you fuck your way through men, men almost never betray women on having sex anyway.

You know the golden rule. The real body count in sex for men: divide by 2. For women: multiply by 3. :lol:


"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

drunkenshoe

Quote from: stromboli on February 22, 2016, 11:41:12 AM
I agree with aitm based on my experience. You know, that observational data shit. And neither one of us is indicating we are seeing it from a woman's point of view. But that doesn't mean we are wrong, just see it differently.

Sorry. That might be too deep a concept. So call me names or whatever. Carry on.

Your posts have become passive agressive and empty. You don't even read my posts apparently, so why bother to answer? Don't bother. 

(When have I called you names before, strom? Seriousy, I don't remember, I'd appreicate if you remind it.)


"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

aitm

Quote from: drunkenshoe on February 22, 2016, 11:44:38 AM
a lot of women will fuck a man just because she can. Sometimes just because they want and just because she can 'let' them. (Do you get that?) 

If you are saying that the very real social dynamic we have of women chasing the "bad boy" is even close to the amount of women that will simply let some guy fuck her because she can, I ain't buying it. Not even close, not even remotely close. But I will happily provide my address and you can attempt to prove me wrong.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

stromboli

You apparently aren't aware that you say nasty and essentially demeaning shit to people on a regular basis. I chalk it up to language differences and not completely understanding our culture. But I don't answer your posts much any more because you accepting a new idea not of your own invention obviously isn't going to happen.

A couple of times I posted responses which basically amounted to agreement and you still told me I was full of BS. Thank you, but I don't have time for people copping attitudes and calling it opinion. See if you can translate that.

I'm spending less time on the forum because unlike some I have better things to do. So carry on, sister, because discussing anything with you is a waste of time and I'm not bothering any more. And if I go with "passive aggressive" its because it is the response your comments deserve.

PickelledEggs

Quote from: drunkenshoe on February 22, 2016, 04:23:45 AM
Really? What does that mean exactly? Because I think he sounds out of male Cosmopolitan. Pretty much in general he does. And that has nothing to do with his experience, it is about how he sees women.

What he is saying pretty much like women talking about men about 'giving to them as a reward' or 'rejecting them as a punishment'. You wouldn't believe how real and good that works.

Still both disgusting and completely wrong.
What I meant by that was sometimes the more people talk, the more they make room for error.

I don't think he was referring to any type of "reward"...
... But aitm is right. Saying what he is said is wrong because it's a stereotype is wrong in its self. The thing about stereotypes is that stereotypes are frequently true...  To a predictable rate. I mean even just now my friend's sister just broke up with her boyfriend because of the same reason. He was an asshole "badboy" that doesn't care about her.

My other friend? She just broke up with someone for the almost same reason. He was lying and cheating.

My other friend told me about how this girl broke up with her boyfriend, turned to him and said "guys are stupid. Want to go out on a date?" which, with two sentences...  One after another like that had him taken aback and wordless... And then immediately she said "Oh I get it.  You don't date MEXICANS" which that had nothing to do with it. She fell for someone stupidly, and then stupidly was going to do it again. Without any thought in the matter. My friend is a good guy, which is why he was taken aback and baffled at why she would even do that, but another case of going in blindly and stupidly causing herself heartache.

Women in this area will even tell you that "women are stupid / crazy" in that sense....  So yeah. Aitm is correct in pointing out that stereotype. And it's not all women, but it does tend to be that way. And likewise not all men are abusive assholes, but it can definitely be that way.

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drunkenshoe

Quote from: aitm on February 22, 2016, 12:21:44 PM
If you are saying that the very real social dynamic we have of women chasing the "bad boy" is even close to the amount of women that will simply let some guy fuck her because she can, I ain't buying it. Not even close, not even remotely close. But I will happily provide my address and you can attempt to prove me wrong.

Why would we need these amounts to be close or competing? It does not prove anything. This is not a competition. The whole point is you are defining a situation according to 'what a man would want/do' and what appeals to you -as a man- when this is about women. Invalid. And you are deciding if it works or not. Again, invalid. This is not a rant.

Actually, it could be explained in many ways, and also it makes a lot of sense, but you can't stand a post longer than 3 lines, suggesting different meanings of words. Then I want to call you names. This is not flirting.





"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

drunkenshoe

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Quote from: stromboli on February 22, 2016, 12:28:12 PM
You apparently aren't aware that you say nasty and essentially demeaning shit to people on a regular basis. I chalk it up to language differences and not completely understanding our culture. But I don't answer your posts much any more because you accepting a new idea not of your own invention obviously isn't going to happen.

A couple of times I posted responses which basically amounted to agreement and you still told me I was full of BS. Thank you, but I don't have time for people copping attitudes and calling it opinion. See if you can translate that.

I'm spending less time on the forum because unlike some I have better things to do. So carry on, sister, because discussing anything with you is a waste of time and I'm not bothering any more. And if I go with "passive aggressive" its because it is the response your comments deserve.

Oh yes I do. And they do to me too. Often. I really don't care which side you are following or what you think about it. I asked you, if I called YOU any names.

You made a snarky remark out of nowhere and I gave you an answer. I understand your culture much better than you do any foriegn culture. It's not my problem if you get offended by what I see.

If I deserve your passive agressive remarks, don't bother with meaningless explanations and put up with what that deserves in return.











"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

aitm

Quote from: drunkenshoe on February 22, 2016, 12:37:45 PM
Why would we need these amounts to be close or competing? It does not prove anything. This is not a competition. The whole point is...

No. I made my point exactly as it is. Reality. It has nothing to do with how "I" see it. It is what it is, and to suggest that because some gal once let a guy fuck her when she had no interest in him either emotionally or sexually is the same as a preponderance of women who chase a guy who has no interest in her and then beds him hoping he will, when he won't, is quite a stunning admission of who really has no grasp on the dynamics of the sexes you proclaim to be so proficient in.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

PickelledEggs

Shoesy... The odd thing is, is that you have said very similar things to what aitm have said in the past. I forget where in the forum, but it was a while back and it was very similar; that men usually act a certain way, and that women usually act a certain way.

drunkenshoe

Quote from: PickelledEggs on February 22, 2016, 12:35:25 PM
... But aitm is right. Saying what he is said is wrong because it's a stereotype is wrong in its self. The thing about stereotypes is that stereotypes are frequently true...  To a predictable rate. I mean even just now my friend's sister just broke up with her boyfriend because of the same reason. He was an asshole "badboy" that doesn't care about her.

My other friend? She just broke up with someone for the almost same reason. He was lying and cheating.

My other friend told me about how this girl broke up with her boyfriend, turned to him and said "guys are stupid. Want to go out on a date?" which, with two sentences...  One after another like that had him taken aback and wordless... And then immediately she said "Oh I get it.  You don't date MEXICANS" which that had nothing to do with it. She fell for someone stupidly, and then stupidly was going to do it again. Without any thought in the matter. My friend is a good guy, which is why he was taken aback and baffled at why she would even do that, but another case of going in blindly and stupidly causing herself heartache.

Women in this area will even tell you that "women are stupid / crazy" in that sense....  So yeah. Aitm is correct in pointing out that stereotype. And it's not all women, but it does tend to be that way. And likewise not all men are abusive assholes, but it can definitely be that way.

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I didn't say the stereotype is wrong. I am saying the stereotype is -works or not-  what some women do, because they are attracted to those men and those relationships. It's the same thing with what men do for something they want with a woman. But as women are always pushed out and treated as something else than regular people, being subjected to male standards, when they do it is batshit crazy...something negative.

The way he looks at it wrong. He is looking at it with 'what a man would want /do' and defining a situation as how it appeals to him as a man.  Myeh. She is not a man.




"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

drunkenshoe

Quote from: PickelledEggs on February 22, 2016, 12:53:51 PM
Shoesy... The odd thing is, is that you have said very similar things to what aitm have said in the past. I forget where in the forum, but it was a while back and it was very similar; that men usually act a certain way, and that women usually act a certain way.

Yes. And I am saying exactly the same thing right now. That's what I am defending.

But if you look at what women do and find it 'wrong' or 'stupid' because a man wouldn't do that then it would conflict with I am saying.

"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

PickelledEggs

So if you don't disagree with his facts, why continue to argue? He's barely (if at all...) is saying how he views it. And even if he is saying how he views it, if someone says another person's viewpoint is wrong and their own is right... is falicious.

If you are saying the same thing as aitm. There is no need to argue. But if you continue to argue, you have to understand where people think you are implying something else. That goes back to my "you should have quit when you weren't behind" comment.