Does Privilege Matter?

Gawdzilla Sama · July 25, 2015, 10:17:26 AM

So, do you have a warrant out for your arrest for failing to pay that fine? (Serious question.)

Baruch · July 25, 2015, 10:21:01 AM

Gawdzilla Sama ... I agree to resist guilt tripping. That is a political act/aggression that is hostile to the receiver. Just as chauvinism is a hostile act to anyone classed as "other". But psychology and politics are hopefully separate categories.

We do have much more interface than in the past ... practically every crime on the planet is broadcast or Internetted into one's home now, compared to the past when we had little knowledge of what was going on all around us. If one follows the news, one is sensitized as if one lived in E St Louis.

On the other hand, my coworker is a scary PTSD ex military dude ... and we are producing more like him every day of our "forever war". And our vast prison-industrial complex is doing the same, as part of our forever war against ourselves. There is no reform in it.

AllPurposeAtheist · July 25, 2015, 10:21:32 AM

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 25, 2015, 10:17:26 AM
So, do you have a warrant out for your arrest for failing to pay that fine? (Serious question.)

Yup and I don't consider it my duty to have myself arrested for it either. That was in Ohio and if Ohio wants me they can have the South Carolina police extradite me for a 15-20 year old traffic ticket.

Baruch · July 25, 2015, 10:25:30 AM

AllPurposeAtheist ... I feel for you, but as the Feds nationalize the criminal justice system ... you might be nabbed anyway ... there are no state's rights anymore. The real danger today, is that unpaid fines or unrealized warrants ... are now accumulating fines of thousands of dollars ... because the local lockup needs your money (see Ferguson). I am also a perp ... and keep a low profile. And no ... Gawdzilla Samma ... like James Cagney ... they will have to come for me guns blazing (that traffic violation is a crime against the State ... treason!).

Gawdzilla Sama · July 25, 2015, 10:27:19 AM

Quote from: Baruch on July 25, 2015, 10:21:01 AM
Gawdzilla Sama ... I agree to resist guilt tripping. That is a political act/aggression that is hostile to the receiver. Just as chauvinism is a hostile act to anyone classed as "other". But psychology and politics are hopefully separate categories.

We do have much more interface than in the past ... practically every crime on the planet is broadcast or Internetted into one's home now, compared to the past when we had little knowledge of what was going on all around us. If one follows the news, one is sensitized as if one lived in E St Louis.

I live less than five miles from Ferguson, Missouri.

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On the other hand, my coworker is a scary PTSD ex military dude ... and we are producing more like him every day of our "forever war". And our vast prison-industrial complex is doing the same, as part of our forever war against ourselves. There is no reform in it.

And I'm a retired USN chief petty officer.

Baruch · July 25, 2015, 10:32:13 AM

My Dad was Navy, 1946-48 ... thanks for the salt water service ;-)

So near St Louis ... sorry to hear that ;-) That neighborhood has been going downhill ever since Lews & Clark. My folks and I were 5 miles from Watts during the original 1965 riots.

AllPurposeAtheist · July 25, 2015, 10:37:09 AM

Quote from: Baruch on July 25, 2015, 10:25:30 AM
AllPurposeAtheist ... I feel for you, but as the Feds nationalize the criminal justice system ... you might be nabbed anyway ... there are no state's rights anymore. The real danger today, is that unpaid fines or unrealized warrants ... are now accumulating fines of thousands of dollars ... because the local lockup needs your money (see Ferguson). I am also a perp ... and keep a low profile. And no ... Gawdzilla Samma ... like James Cagney ... they will have to come for me guns blazing (that traffic violation is a crime against the State ... treason!).

I've declared myself a state unto my own and the king of my castle. Yeah, I was nabbed in Texas as well and what they really want is cold, hard cash. In fact Texas wanted rent money for a day in the local jail. I told the sergeant there they would just have to give me life in their little jail for having a tail light out to which he said, "Get the fuck out of my jail."

Gawdzilla Sama · July 25, 2015, 10:47:52 AM

Quote from: Baruch on July 25, 2015, 10:32:13 AM
My Dad was Navy, 1946-48 ... thanks for the salt water service ;-)

Salute to your father!

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So near St Louis ... sorry to hear that ;-) That neighborhood has been going downhill ever since Lews & Clark. My folks and I were 5 miles from Watts during the original 1965 riots.

Some areas are in bad shape, some are in the process of renewal. It's a dynamic process. My area is quite nice, a solid working-class neighborhood. Police are always on my block, primarily because three of them live across the street.

AllPurposeAtheist · July 25, 2015, 11:02:03 AM

I spent a few years in St Louis one day. It's almost as cheerful as Dayton Ohio which by the way owes mmuch of its downfall to electing funeral directors to city council and the mayor of the city. What's that say about your hometown when it's run by funeral directors?

aitm · July 25, 2015, 11:47:05 AM

Well when the broccoli is perfectly al dente and all buttered upâ€¦in the endâ€¦ it's just broccoli. Everything it seems, is subjective.

Gawdzilla Sama · July 25, 2015, 12:08:06 PM

Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on July 25, 2015, 11:02:03 AM
I spent a few years in St Louis one day. It's almost as cheerful as Dayton Ohio which by the way owes mmuch of its downfall to electing funeral directors to city council and the mayor of the city. What's that say about your hometown when it's run by funeral directors?

I've had people visit here from Wales, Scotland, South Korea and The New Territories. They always had a good time. Most of this county is quite pleasant, some is quite ugly and some, like The Endangered Wolf Center, are cause for hope for humanity.

Baruch · July 25, 2015, 01:38:41 PM

Fortunately not all of the US is like Detroit ... yet ;-(

Gawdzilla Sama · July 25, 2015, 02:06:10 PM

Detroit was a monoculture issue. They produced one crop. And the "farmers" thought they were immune to reality.

Anyway, come visit St. Louis. You can visit the Zoo Marlin Perkins made a world famous facility and have dinner on a Mississippi river boat.

AllPurposeAtheist · July 25, 2015, 02:08:45 PM

I suppose my trips to St Louis are colored by the fact that they were all via hitch hiking in the late 70s, early 80s. Missing that I-70 turnoff back then was an adventure to Siberia and back.

AllPurposeAtheist · July 25, 2015, 02:15:57 PM

Quote from: Baruch on July 25, 2015, 01:38:41 PM
Fortunately not all of the US is like Detroit ... yet ;-(

Dayton is like Detroit. It was dependent on the auto industry and used to be a hotbed of inventors. The DELCO brand is an acronym for the Dayton Electronic Laboratories Company. The electric starter for the automobile was developed there by Charles Kettering not to mention flight was perfected by Orville and Wilbur Wright on what became Wright Patterson Air Force Base.
Dayton today is the county jail and a bus stop.

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