Does Privilege Matter?

[popsthebuilder]

Mike CI,

Instincts and initial though and intuition are neesed. Overthinking is not. You think; mmmmm... M&Me. Now put just a little thought into it. First you conclude that that candy is bad for your health. Bam, delima solved. Easy. It will always be your first real thought on any broken down subject. 

Moderation is also a good rule of thumb as excess of anything is not good. Money can't go into the equations. Money is bad and the cause of much pain.
How about other examples.

How about pinning a dog up outside in a small place? Say you have two dogs and you pin them both. One is cool with it, and seems just as happy as if it were free. The other is clearly distraught to the point of panic and self harm in attempts to escape. So what is the right thing to do?

Put a little selfless thought into the equation.

You are hurting the dog due to it's panic over captivity. The obvious answer is to free the dog. Well what if it roams onto others property and destroys there belongings? Surly destruction isn't good and will cause stress between neighbors. What do you do.

A little selfless thought will bring you to the conclusion that you can
A) take the time to properly train the dog so it doesn't terrorize the neighborhood. Which takes effort and is good.

B) find a home for the dog where it can feel free of captivity. This would be the lesser option as it needlessly breaks a friendship or bond between dog and owner. And is lazy, which is negative.

How bout another.
Homosexuality.

Perhaps you are homosexual. I don't know how people are or become that way, but that is irelevent to this discussion.

So you and whomever of the same sex are contemplating intercourse. Think of it selflessly. Putting your dick in someone's ass may feel good to you. However that is a selfish perspective. Consider it from a selfless good perspective. Others pleasure? No being a couple you should have the same asperations in regards to sex, so that person's pleasure could be thought of as selfish too. So thought brings us to the conclusion that you shouldn't fuck people in the ass for a number of reasons. First it could cause pain and bowel problems. Second it can lead to hemroids or lack of bowel control. Third, it is an ass where waste comes out. Inserting a sex organ in an excriment organ is a bad idea due to desease. You mite as well wash your hands in shit water.

Another?
How bout vanity, or overly high self respect. Well, let's see. Say you are vane and do no wrong in your own eyes. Think about it in a selfless manner and your whole clouded dilision of self importance will crumble away. We are equal. All are one. Separation of one's self as some entitled thing due to any reason is wrong. This can be observed in that a higher status of oneself will lead to misstreatment of others either willfully, or u consciously.

More examples please.

Faith in selfless Unity through Good

[popsthebuilder]

Oh. Yeah. Nice shit there. Jones bones were soft and old, Larry's were hard and young. The end.

No habla Engle.

Flowery, beautiful thoughts, there, Pops.  But it is so full of holes that you may as well call it Swiss cheese.  You have said exactly, nothing.  You say--If a thought or act can lead to any negative emotion for anyone then it is wrong.  Really?  Then we cannot have a single thought in our brains at any time.  Let's see--I think I'd like to have a bag of M&M's.  I have coronary disease and that sugar is not good--negative thought.  But the candy company makes money and hires more people--that's good.  My wife sees me eating the candy and becomes upset--that's bad.  But the candy tastes soo good.  That's good.  I die of a heart attack--that's good and bad.  My family is sad--my neighbor who hates me, is glad.  I could go on and on................but I think you get the point.

Pops--there are not all good or all bad thoughts.  There are no all good or all bad acts.  Circumstance is everything. 

You also tell us that--Faith in selfless Unity through Good.    Let's see----faith is simply doing something or accepting something without reason.  That is never good.  Selfless--what is that?  Can anything ever be totally selfless?  No.  Unity--has a group of any kind been totally united?  Through Good--what is good?  Your good may be bad to me.  It is all subjective and circumstance driven. 

Airy Fairy stuff--fluff without any substance.  But then that makes you a good Christian.

Faith in selfless Unity through Good

[Gawdzilla Sama]

So that's why you are so crusty--you are a goddam' Sarge!--which is what that is called in the Army--and which I am (well, not retired--just did not reup after 12 yrs.). 

I've never been accused of being gentle.

[Mike Cl]

I've never been accused of being gentle.

Sarge's are never gentle--but always right!

[Mike Cl]

No habla Engle.

Faith in selfless Unity through Good

You are beyond brain-dead.  Thought just does not exist in your world. 

[popsthebuilder]

You are beyond brain-dead.  Thought just does not exist in your world.

Sure buddy. The only thing is that my world, is our world. My perspective is only slightly different.
Thanks.

Faith in selfless Unity through Good

[aitm]

You are beyond brain-dead.  Thought just does not exist in your world. 

Yeah, he is in his little fairy tale world. The guy is babble nut, they were never known for intellect.

[Mike Cl]

Sure buddy. The only thing is that my world, is our world. My perspective is only slightly different.
Thanks.

Faith in selfless Unity through Good

You are quite welcome.  But you are wrong.  My world is not your world and your world is not mine.  Your world is built on belief--mine on thought and reason.  You are welcome to your world. 

[popsthebuilder]

You are quite welcome.  But you are wrong.  My world is not your world and your world is not mine.  Your world is built on belief--mine on thought and reason.  You are welcome to your world.

Thought without reason. Thought is a beautiful gift. Use it.

Faith in selfless Unity through Good

[Mike Cl]

Thought without reason. Thought is a beautiful gift. Use it.

Faith in selfless Unity through Good

I quite agree!  If only you could do that!

[popsthebuilder]

I quite agree!  If only you could do that!

Indeed I miscomunicate with some. Allow me not but patience, I ask.

Faith in selfless Unity through Good

[Mike Cl]

Indeed I miscomunicate with some. Allow me not but patience, I ask.

Faith in selfless Unity through Good

You know, Pops, I'd not mind engaging you in a conversation except for one little problem.  You believe and I reason.  Where can we start so that we are speaking the same language? 

[popsthebuilder]

Just found this. We can start before your ground zero Sir.
This is more so an explanation of my perspective.
Please attempt an opened mind. I am confident you will.
Thank you.


Faith in selfless Unity through Good

[popsthebuilder]

True Faith
What God Says!
BY DAVID C. PACK
Do you have real faith? Is it sufficient for salvation? Can you know?
Why are most people trapped by fears and worries? Because they lack faith! But what is faith? Is it positive thinking? A certain feeling? One’s church affiliation? Is it confidence? Or hope? Or the simple belief that Jesus died for your sins?

Or is faith something far more?

The Bible states that “without faith it is impossible to please [God]” (Heb. 11:6). This is an incredible statement, yet it is in the Bible! Take it for exactly what it says. Just think! Anything a person does, in attempting to be Christian, means absolutely nothing, if he lacks faith. For without faith, he has no hopeâ€"no possibilityâ€"of pleasing God. Any who are not pleasing God are Christians in vain. So having real faith is serious!

When speaking of our timeâ€"the last generation before His Returnâ€"Jesus asked, “When the Son of Man comes, shall He find faith on the earth?” (Luke 18:8). Think of the incredible implications of this question! Is it possible that true faith could be completely gone from Earth at Christ’s Second Coming? Jesus was able to look forward, into our time, and know that conditions would exist allowing this to be trueâ€"almost!

Jesus said He would build His Church and He promised it would never be destroyed. His Churchâ€"God’s Churchâ€"is where people do have faith according to the Bible definition. Therefore, the presence of God’s people on Earth will ensure that at least a few people will be found to have faith when Christ returns.

Real faith comes from the Spirit of God. It is a fruit of the Holy Spirit. “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law” (Gal. 5:22-23). No one can have faith or even be a true Christian without God’s Spirit.

Here is God’s definition of faith: “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen” (Heb. 11:1). Did you notice that faith involves “evidence” of things “not seen”? The marginal rendering of “substance” is “assurance.” Faith involves an assurance “of things hoped for.” But, if something is hoped for, that something has not yet been received. Therefore, where faith is involved, there is an assurance that it will be received!

Consider this verse: “For we walk by faith, NOT by sight” (II Cor. 5:7). Practicing true faith means learning to disregard what you see. Literally, sight does not count in relation to what God has promised to do or when He will do it. This verse reveals that Christians do not walk by what they see!

What about you? Do you lack faith to know that God is with you? To overcome sin and guilt? To be healed of disease? To believe all things in His Word? To know that “all things [will] work together for good” (Rom. 8:28) if you are serving God? To believe God will work out injustices you suffer? To believe God will provide for you? To believe that you can endure severe trials and persecution? Or that God will deliver you from them? Do you lack faith to see the soon-coming kingdom of God more clearly and that you can be in it?

The Bible says that you need not lack faith in any of these! You can develop real faith!

Faith in selfless Unity through Good

[Mike Cl]

True Faith
What God Says!
BY DAVID C. PACK
Do you have real faith? Is it sufficient for salvation? Can you know?
Why are most people trapped by fears and worries? Because they lack faith! But what is faith? Is it positive thinking? A certain feeling? One’s church affiliation? Is it confidence? Or hope? Or the simple belief that Jesus died for your sins?

Or is faith something far more?

The Bible states that “without faith it is impossible to please [God]” (Heb. 11:6). This is an incredible statement, yet it is in the Bible! Take it for exactly what it says. Just think! Anything a person does, in attempting to be Christian, means absolutely nothing, if he lacks faith. For without faith, he has no hopeâ€"no possibilityâ€"of pleasing God. Any who are not pleasing God are Christians in vain. So having real faith is serious!

When speaking of our timeâ€"the last generation before His Returnâ€"Jesus asked, “When the Son of Man comes, shall He find faith on the earth?” (Luke 18:8). Think of the incredible implications of this question! Is it possible that true faith could be completely gone from Earth at Christ’s Second Coming? Jesus was able to look forward, into our time, and know that conditions would exist allowing this to be trueâ€"almost!

Jesus said He would build His Church and He promised it would never be destroyed. His Churchâ€"God’s Churchâ€"is where people do have faith according to the Bible definition. Therefore, the presence of God’s people on Earth will ensure that at least a few people will be found to have faith when Christ returns.

Real faith comes from the Spirit of God. It is a fruit of the Holy Spirit. “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law” (Gal. 5:22-23). No one can have faith or even be a true Christian without God’s Spirit.

Here is God’s definition of faith: “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen” (Heb. 11:1). Did you notice that faith involves “evidence” of things “not seen”? The marginal rendering of “substance” is “assurance.” Faith involves an assurance “of things hoped for.” But, if something is hoped for, that something has not yet been received. Therefore, where faith is involved, there is an assurance that it will be received!

Consider this verse: “For we walk by faith, NOT by sight” (II Cor. 5:7). Practicing true faith means learning to disregard what you see. Literally, sight does not count in relation to what God has promised to do or when He will do it. This verse reveals that Christians do not walk by what they see!

What about you? Do you lack faith to know that God is with you? To overcome sin and guilt? To be healed of disease? To believe all things in His Word? To know that “all things [will] work together for good” (Rom. 8:28) if you are serving God? To believe God will work out injustices you suffer? To believe God will provide for you? To believe that you can endure severe trials and persecution? Or that God will deliver you from them? Do you lack faith to see the soon-coming kingdom of God more clearly and that you can be in it?

The Bible says that you need not lack faith in any of these! You can develop real faith!

Faith in selfless Unity through Good

Whoa, my man.  This way too far along on your road.  This is not even close to my road.
I don't think God exists.  And I am sure that Jesus of the bible did not exist.  And I know that the bible is full of contradictions, bad ideas, and bad advise.  The bible is a collection of writings that was never meant to be cobbled together into a 'book'.  So, you see, we are universes apart.  You accept all that (what I deem as crap) on faith and belief.  I use science and reason for my assessment of my life and my universe.  I value empirical data, you don't.  I will make a couple of statements.  If you'd like to tackle one, pick it and carry on.  If not--have a 'good' life.

1.  There is no god or gods, or intelligence behind the universe we live in.
2.  The person you call Jesus Christ never existed.
3.  The bible is not a single document, but a cobbled together collection of writings that are arraigned in many different manners depending upon which religion you follow.  It is a totally a creation of men, not any kind of divinity.