Does Privilege Matter?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I suppose my trips to St Louis are colored by the fact that they were all via hitch hiking in the late 70s, early 80s. Missing that I-70 turnoff back then was an adventure to Siberia and back.

I remember a trip from Indiana to St. Louis back in the '50s. Our driver didn't know how to read and used landmarks to navigate through East. St. Louis. But they had changed a billboard and we wound up on the back streets. We were stopped at one intersection because a cop car had a double stainless steel sink with drain board sticking out of the top. The cops escorted us into Missouri.

[Munch]

I remember a trip from Indiana to St. Louis back in the '50s. Our driver didn't know how to read and used landmarks to navigate through East. St. Louis. But they had changed a billboard and we wound up on the back streets. We were stopped at one intersection because a cop car had a double stainless steel sink with drain board sticking out of the top. The cops escorted us into Missouri.

That sounded like it began like a retelling of Texas chainsaw massacre

[Gawdzilla Sama]

That sounded like it began like a retelling of Texas chainsaw massacre

Welcome to Missouri,
Congratulations on Surviving Illinois.

[Baruch]

Conspiracy nuts would say that the take down of the Midwest was racist, and started as soon as WW I ended, and they didn't need ex-sharecroppers from the South as additional factory labor.  Today we prefer factory slaves in China.  The driver then and now is war ... endless war.  The war profiteering of WW I was too lucrative to let go ... and no need to share with the "little people".

[aitm]

yeah..war is too damn profitable to let stop. Something that the rich and powerful understand, and under their direction champion the "new" patriotism that spawns another generation of ready spurred soldiers. The majority can't seem to see past the flags, the battle marches and the solemn speeches that reward the death of their children, a small coin that they can swing in front of their neighbors face to show that their family was willing to give for the freedom of their neighbor… please respect us for our lost one. *que Queen*... and another one bites the dust, and another bites the dust…and another one gone and another one gone…...

[AllPurposeAtheist]

One of the reasons war is so ingrained into the fabric of the US is because when we have a new fighter jet built at least one or more components of the jet are made in every congressional district in the nation. JOBS JOBS JOBS. .  If every voting district has a hand in it, even one little toenail in the cookie jar people will think THEY are responsible for winning the war.. Even if the only part is one tiny screw used on one tiny, insignificant part it's patriotic. .

[popsthebuilder]

Priviledge matters because it is negative and helps to divide us.

Faith in selfless Unity through Good

[Baruch]

Unfortunately the usual result is ... faith in selfish unity thru greed.  Hitler or Stalin ... your pick.

[Mike Cl]

And I'm a retired USN chief petty officer.

So that's why you are so crusty--you are a goddam' Sarge!--which is what that is called in the Army--and which I am (well, not retired--just did not reup after 12 yrs.). 

[aitm]

Priviledge matters because it is negative and helps to divide us.

Faith in selfless Unity through Good

ooooo kay  negative…hmmm bad stuff.. faith in selfless unity through good…I don't even know what the fuck that means.

[popsthebuilder]

ooooo kay  negative…hmmm bad stuff.. faith in selfless unity through good…I don't even know what the fuck that means.

It means if you are selfless and faithful in the good of all creation that we can unite as one consciousness for good which could very well change everything we know and end pain and suffering.

Faith in selfless Unity through Good

[Mike Cl]

It means if you are selfless and faithful in the good of all creation that we can unite as one consciousness for good which could very well change everything we know and end pain and suffering.

Faith in selfless Unity through Good

Who gets to determine what is "Good"??  You?

[popsthebuilder]

Who gets to determine what is "Good"??  You?

Just listen to your conscience and remember that evil is at our core along with righteous.
A differentiation can be determined through emotion.

If a thought or act can lead to any negative emotion for anyone then it is wrong.

Right is always easy, straight forward, and accompanied by only positive emotion.

Faith in selfless Unity through Good

[Mike Cl]

Just listen to your conscience and remember that evil is at our core along with righteous.
A differentiation can be determined through emotion.

If a thought or act can lead to any negative emotion for anyone then it is wrong.

Right is always easy, straight forward, and accompanied by only positive emotion.

Flowery, beautiful thoughts, there, Pops.  But it is so full of holes that you may as well call it Swiss cheese.  You have said exactly, nothing.  You say--If a thought or act can lead to any negative emotion for anyone then it is wrong.  Really?  Then we cannot have a single thought in our brains at any time.  Let's see--I think I'd like to have a bag of M&M's.  I have coronary disease and that sugar is not good--negative thought.  But the candy company makes money and hires more people--that's good.  My wife sees me eating the candy and becomes upset--that's bad.  But the candy tastes soo good.  That's good.  I die of a heart attack--that's good and bad.  My family is sad--my neighbor who hates me, is glad.  I could go on and on................but I think you get the point.

Pops--there are not all good or all bad thoughts.  There are no all good or all bad acts.  Circumstance is everything. 

You also tell us that--Faith in selfless Unity through Good.    Let's see----faith is simply doing something or accepting something without reason.  That is never good.  Selfless--what is that?  Can anything ever be totally selfless?  No.  Unity--has a group of any kind been totally united?  Through Good--what is good?  Your good may be bad to me.  It is all subjective and circumstance driven. 

Airy Fairy stuff--fluff without any substance.  But then that makes you a good Christian.

[aitm]

Just listen to your conscience and remember that evil is at our core along with righteous.
A differentiation can be determined through emotion.

If a thought or act can lead to any negative emotion for anyone then it is wrong.

Right is always easy, straight forward, and accompanied by only positive emotion.

Faith in selfless Unity through Good

Oh. Yeah. Nice shit there. Jones bones were soft and old, Larry's were hard and young. The end.