I'm a new philosopher in the community.

[Mike Cl]

No shut. That would be the time at which the earth will no longer be our host.

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There was an old song about you.........Let's see....oh yeah, Rave On Silver Moon, Rave On..................oh, wait, that's Shine On Silver Moon..............that's what you are doing..........shining me on.  :)))))  My or my................I bet you drool, too.

[popsthebuilder]

Super productive.

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[the_antithesis]

The Old Testament has been translated, so yes it could be flawed. Maybe that is why Yah is perceived so negatively.

Actually, that probably has more to do with YWH being the Canaanite god of war during the time much of the old testament was originally written, which is why he looks like such a bloodthirsty psychopath. Later he was combined with several other gods, including his father Elohim who was the chief god of the pantheon, to make the monotheistic deity that is kinda sorta worshiped today.

[popsthebuilder]

Regardless of the name used to describe the one Lord the Old Testament could have been manipulated even in original writing.

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[the_antithesis]

Regardless of the name used to describe the one Lord the Old Testament could have been manipulated even in original writing.

How do you know that your "one lord of the old testament" isn't the altered, incorrect version?

Oh, wait. You already told us because you can feel it. Even though we've already demonstrated that feelings are a poor measure for truth.

You are just another example that faith is simply an act of pride.

[popsthebuilder]

Faith is the opposite of pride in true form. You say that science and society disregard feeling as a simple brain wave but the brain is the most complex organ we have that has in no way been completely understood.

I say what are the senses?
How can you throw out our most intuitive sense (the mind) simply because science and society (definitely not science and off, or biased due to fragmented Unity as a whole) claim it isn't real by reason of lack of observable understanding.

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[popsthebuilder]

You refute the very core of existence due to the inability to fit it into a flawed perception.

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[the_antithesis]

Faith is the opposite of pride in true form. You say that science and society disregard feeling as a simple brain wave but the brain is the most complex organ we have that has in no way been completely understood.

The brain is completely misunderstood, but you understand it?

You prideful cunt.

This is why I am not a theist. I am a very self-centered person but I cannot reach the heights necessary to have faith.

Faith is not the opposite of pride. Faith is pride. Faith says, "I do not care what the facts are or what evidence may exist, I cannot possibly be wrong."

You will demonstrate this by denying this. Already have, actually.

Now pay attention because this is very important: you are not magical. You do not have secret knowledge that most people have never encountered. Most people have encountered it and discarded it for the stupidity it is. You are the only one dumb enough to accept it.

Intuition is not that hot because it does it give reliable results. This is why intuition always fails when studied, and it has been studied. It's not magical. Your brain is not magical. Far from. So just because a thought enters into your head does not make it true, but that's the stance your entire argument here is based. "I believe it, that settles it," you say. "Fuck off and die," we say because you are not a reliable source for information. We have no reason to even listen to, much less believe, your side of things. So, go away and never come back.

[popsthebuilder]

No ass. Faith is saying fuck self preservation in a selfish sense, and is only for the advancement of the greater good.

Pride is thinking you as an individual are better than another individual or group and is never the truth.
I don't claim some high up status over nonbelievers. I just relate to them due to my past beliefs and methodical approach to reality. I sin daily if not more. I am a hypocrite in that I actually understand and do not always conform. I am in no way better than anyone else. I have always thought this and always will. Quite the opposite of pride. I completely agree with most of sciences observations, I just see them differently.

I never claimed any sort of magic, or special knowledge. We all have it. Some don't pay attention to it or desregard it as you stated.

Intuition by itself isn't the answer. It takes first instinct or intuitial coupled with the breakdown of every single scenario with direct relevence in a wholly marally right perspective with the ability to catch manipulative, negative, selfish motives defore they become intertwined in the conclusion.

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[the_antithesis]

I don't claim some high up status over nonbelievers.

You think you know things we don't.

You are wrong.

Go away.

[popsthebuilder]

You think you know things that I don't.

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[popsthebuilder]

I'm trying to show you these things not keep them for myself.

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[Solitary]

  Another religious nut that had his shell cracked off and showing his true colors----"I used to be an atheists"----you can make other religious nuts believe that, but you are not going to make any atheist believe that you disingenuous proselytizing fool.    :fU:

[the_antithesis]

I'm trying to show you these things not keep them for myself.

You have nothing we haven't seen hundreds of times before.

Go away.

[popsthebuilder]

Not going anywhere and not forcing you to read or participate.

Why so negative?

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