Is Freefall Proof of Controlled Demolition?

[Plu]

Have you ever seen thermite explode? Because it's not exactly a highly concentrated explosive. As far as I know it's primarily used as a welding material. I've seen experiments with it in high school, and the worst it did but burn through a terracotta vase. It looks and sounds really cool, but it's a piss poor explosive from what I saw.

[Sargon The Grape]

Building 7...its highly improbable that fires melted all of the columns...and you don't need to remove the base...thermite or any other highly concentrated explosive attached to the columns anywhere near the base would do the trick. Also pictures shown of the columns are cleanly cut. I dont see why you think nutjobs are people who question the official story written by the media (owned by only 5 companies)...not to mention  the report for 9/11 was written behind closed doors.

As has been explained to you idiots a number of times already, the failing point of steel occurs well before its melting point. In fact, you can apply that principle to every substance known to man. Anyone who has ever cooked food or burned trash knows this.

Steel loses 90% of its strength at 800 degrees celcius, and a typical fire will burn at upwards of ~982 degrees. Steel holding up a structure such as a skyscraper will easily collapse long before this point. As for how the whole structure of each building collapsed: what exactly do you think happens when 3+ floors fail and several tons of tower comes crashing down on the floors below? There is a technical term for this; personally, I like to refer to it as "squishy squishy."

[stromboli]

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[Jason78]

This thread is fascinating.

Also, I had no idea we had so many explosives and demolition experts on this board.

[Plu]

This thread is fascinating.

Also, I had no idea we had so many explosives and demolition experts on this board.

You can't set the bar too high if you want to collect the autographs of 2000 of them :P

(Sidenote: behold the explosive powers of thermite. Or rather, the lack of them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5kDOtkfIGw
 Unsurpisingly the term "nanothermite" doesn't even exist outside of 9/11 conspiracy theories; there doesn't really appear to be such a thing.)

[MrsSassyPants]

Fuck  all they need is vinegar and baking soda.   BAM   the job is done

[stromboli]

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/9-11_conspiracy_theories

Enough said.

[Insult to Rocks]

I already posted that Stromboli, and even referenced their section on Nano thermite,  and it was just ignored. Mofo just accused the rational wiki of being "irrational" about Al-Qaeda being able to hijack planes.

[stromboli]

I know you did, and I reposted it just for reinforcement. There is no question who hijacked the planes. There was a previous attempt to bomb the Twin Towers, which everybody forgets- a rental truck full of explosives in the basement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World ... er_bombing
Also done by Islamic terrorists.
It makes absolutely no sense to assume that Jews would attack a building where Jewish people work in concert with an attack by Al Qaeda terrorists. Obviously the building was a target of Islamic terrorists. To think otherwise is just conspiracy theory BS.

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[The Skeletal Atheist]

Obviously the building was a target of Islamic terrorists. To think otherwise is just conspiracy theory BS.

So, why do you believe we over in Iraq and Afghanistan? Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom are our attempt to free those countries from these same Islamic terrorists?

Did anyone here even say they supported the war in Iraq?

They didn't even use 9/11 as a pretense for Iraq. They used claims that Saddam was producing "weapons of mass destruction". Iraq would have happened regardless of 9/11.

[The Skeletal Atheist]

Building 7...its highly improbable that fires melted all of the columns...and you don't need to remove the base...thermite or any other highly concentrated explosive attached to the columns anywhere near the base would do the trick. Also pictures shown of the columns are cleanly cut. I dont see why you think nutjobs are people who question the official story written by the media (owned by only 5 companies)...not to mention  the report for 9/11 was written behind closed doors.

You know how I can tell you didn't read any part of this thread before slinging your shit into the ring? Just guess.

Also columns were cleanly cut? Gee, I wonder why. I mean shit man, you got me there...unless they were cut for search and rescue operations or cleanup or something like that, but that never happens after a major disaster.

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[AllPurposeAtheist]

You know SA what really happened was GOD punished everyone killed or injured on 911 just because of YOUR sexual orientation.  You probably didn't realize that you were so influential did you?  :)

[Plu]

There's a big difference between a government shamefully using a tragedy to further it's own goals (which seems totally reasonable and expected of most governments) and a government risking complete revolution and anarchy by causing a tragedy (which seems completely ridiculous and pointless)