Is Freefall Proof of Controlled Demolition?

[Thumpalumpacus]

It doesn't need to weaken all the way down.  It only needs to weaken at one floor, and then fail.  Subsequent to that, you are imposing loads upon members which cause them to fail ... especially once you take into account the kinetic energy of the collapse itself, which you clearly aren't doing when you ask this question.

Show us your calculations of the kinetic energy of the collapse, and how much kinetic energy was required, please?

I haven't calculated exact numbers.  That doesn't mean it doesn't have an effect.  Or, are you yourself now changing the laws of physics?

[stromboli]

I fought a few structural fires during my time as a firefighter. Trust me, steel girders can fail more easily than you think. A steel girder or beam subject to heat doesn't have to melt to lose structural integrity. Metal expands and contracts. Get it hot it will expand considerably. Expanding beams that can't stretch will twist and buckle. I had one that I was standing on fail underneath me in the roof of a building, so I speak from experience. It was socketed on both ends and couldn't stretch, so it twisted and sagged, with me on it. And this in a 4 story building, not a skyscraper.

The remains of a fire is much more than a pile of ash. A great amount of the remainder will be structural members and attached debris. If there are explosive devices attached to supporting structures, there would be huge amounts of evidence, not "trace elements." there would be clearly cut beams obvious evidence of explosives, large amounts of nitrous residue and so forth. The evidence would be so obvious it would be impossible to ignore.

[The Skeletal Atheist]

^ as I said, explosives aren't the most subtle things.

[baronvonrort]

It doesn't need to weaken all the way down.  It only needs to weaken at one floor, and then fail.  Subsequent to that, you are imposing loads upon members which cause them to fail ... especially once you take into account the kinetic energy of the collapse itself, which you clearly aren't doing when you ask this question.

Show us your calculations of the kinetic energy of the collapse, and how much kinetic energy was required, please?

Try this link-
//http://www.911myths.com/WTCREPORT.pdf

It came from here-//http://www.debunking911.com/freefall.htm

[MrsSassyPants]

what a stupid thing to argue about.  Here, I will say it, yes your right all mighty physics gawd.  Your a genius.    How did it take u so long?

[AtheistMoFo]

That the source you put forward to prove free fall says 40% slower than free fall; free fall accounted for less then half the collapse measured in time or distance. That's only looking at the north exterior face collapse, ignoring horizontal motion caused by internal cascading floor failures and the collapse of the east pent house.

Ya' know, I always used to think atheists have more sense of logic and reasoning than theists, and maybe as a general rule it is so, but atheists can sometimes be every bit as illogical as theists.  Here is a little allegory to demonstrate.

<allegory>
At 10:00 sharp, Poison Tree passes through the toll gate and enters the toll highway and his receipt is stamped with the time.  After driving for an hour at the legal speed limit of 60 miles per hour, he stops at a rest area to pee.  As he exits the rest room, he notices a an attractive brunette coming out of the ladies room.  "Yowza, yowza, yowza!  I just gotta get that broad's phone number!"  He strikes up a conversation and nearly an hour later, he finally gets her phone number.  Getting back in his car, Poison Tree realizes the time.  "Fuck!  I was supposed to meet my ol' lady at noon.  She gonna be pissed!"  He starts hauling ass down the highway pedal to the metal.  Then he sees the lights flashing in his rear view mirror and hears the siren, "Curses!"

In court, the cop presents his data showing the exact place where he nabbed Poison Tree and the speed at which the speeder had been clocked.  Showing his time-stamped toll receit, Poison Tree pleads, "But your honor, I passed through the toll gate at 10 o'clock, and the occifer pulled me over at 12 noon 72 miles beyond the toll gate.  Two hours, 72 miles, that's an average of 36 miles an hour, 40% slower than the speed limit."

The judge does the math, pounds his gavel and says, "Case dismissed!"
</allegory>

In Poison Tree's dreams!

[MrsSassyPants]

mo fo, are u employed? As?

[MrsSassyPants]

It's fucking cold outside y'all!!!!   How's the weather?

[Insult to Rocks]

It's fucking cold outside y'all!!!!   How's the weather?

Cloudy with a chance of reptilian space Jew conspiracy.

[MrsSassyPants]

Of fuck Rocks, that's every day it seems.

[Insult to Rocks]

Of fuck Rocks, that's every day it seems.

Nah, Wednesdays we get gay Nazi commie Muslims.

[MrsSassyPants]

Oh shit. Why do I always forget that.  Speaking of Wednesday, why do xtians go to church then?

[Insult to Rocks]

The Templar-Mason-illuminati world order beams mind control into their brains so as to distract them from the development of the Elvis clones they used to kill JFK.

[jumper]

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[MrsSassyPants]

I didn't say it was a stupid topic.  I said it was stupid to ARGUE about it      No your stupid, no your stupid