Is Freefall Proof of Controlled Demolition?

[Insult to Rocks]

what a stupid thing to argue about.

Maybe you think so, but there's some people who don't just simply believe what was reported.



Oh, and the thread must always turn into talk of tin foil hats, or JFK, or Elvis. I mean, really?

Fine, I'll mix it up. Aliens made the pyramids, the MKULTRA program is still around, and dinosaurs are a hoax perpetuated by ghost Abe Lincoln.

[Plu]

That the source you put forward to prove free fall says 40% slower than free fall; free fall accounted for less then half the collapse measured in time or distance. That's only looking at the north exterior face collapse, ignoring horizontal motion caused by internal cascading floor failures and the collapse of the east pent house.

Ya' know, I always used to think atheists have more sense of logic and reasoning than theists, and maybe as a general rule it is so, but atheists can sometimes be every bit as illogical as theists.  Here is a little allegory to demonstrate.

<allegory>
At 10:00 sharp, Poison Tree passes through the toll gate and enters the toll highway and his receipt is stamped with the time.  After driving for an hour at the legal speed limit of 60 miles per hour, he stops at a rest area to pee.  As he exits the rest room, he notices a an attractive brunette coming out of the ladies room.  "Yowza, yowza, yowza!  I just gotta get that broad's phone number!"  He strikes up a conversation and nearly an hour later, he finally gets her phone number.  Getting back in his car, Poison Tree realizes the time.  "Fuck!  I was supposed to meet my ol' lady at noon.  She gonna be pissed!"  He starts hauling ass down the highway pedal to the metal.  Then he sees the lights flashing in his rear view mirror and hears the siren, "Curses!"

In court, the cop presents his data showing the exact place where he nabbed Poison Tree and the speed at which the speeder had been clocked.  Showing his time-stamped toll receit, Poison Tree pleads, "But your honor, I passed through the toll gate at 10 o'clock, and the occifer pulled me over at 12 noon 72 miles beyond the toll gate.  Two hours, 72 miles, that's an average of 36 miles an hour, 40% slower than the speed limit."

The judge does the math, pounds his gavel and says, "Case dismissed!"
</allegory>

In Poison Tree's dreams!

So you truly believe they only used explosives to take out 8 specific floors at the exact moment the rest of the building collapsed? That's what your allegory says.

[Jason78]

Why is this thread still happening?

[Plu]

'cause mofo is kinda hilarious and also I am bored.

[Jason78]

That's a good a reason as any I guess :D

[MrsSassyPants]

I like nuts

[MitchellDaBomb]

Ive written papers on 9/11 and i totally believe it was a demolition. Witnesses said they heard explosions coming from the basement. Theres also a few studies on the seismic activity below ground. Check it out
http://www.911truth.org/were-explosives ... r-11-2001/

[Shol'va]

What frightens me is that the people that supposedly know this is a mass governmental cover-up and start discussions such as this one ... go to sleep at night just fine.

[baronvonrort]

Ive written papers on 9/11 and i totally believe it was a demolition. Witnesses said they heard explosions coming from the basement. Theres also a few studies on the seismic activity below ground.

Try google for implosion world 911 and read the pdf from those who do explosive demolitions, tell us why they didnt take the base out first like every other explosive demolition with buildings, why do those who do explosive demolitions say this was not an explosive demolition?

You nutjobs should read this link and cite anything you have problems with-
//http://www.debunking911.com

[stromboli]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE WATCH A VIDEO that shows what demolition experts have to do to make a building come down. How many times do I have to repeat this? It takes weeks of work, requires hundreds of pound of explosives, requires the stringing of miles of cable, Primacord, detonators, control boxes and connectors.

Imagine dozens of men strapped with tools, carrying K-12 saws, power drills, dragging bundles of cable down stairwell after stairwell, removing sections of wall to get to support structures, drilling or cutting into mainframe building components, installing large junction controls.

Explosive experts require years of training. They have to be licensed and registered to do their jobs. Explosives are tracked and registered. Somebody tell me how you sneak tons of dynamite into a building over weeks of time and nobody noticed. I swear to god, you people are clueless.

[MitchellDaBomb]

Ive written papers on 9/11 and i totally believe it was a demolition. Witnesses said they heard explosions coming from the basement. Theres also a few studies on the seismic activity below ground.

Try google for implosion world 911 and read the pdf from those who do explosive demolitions, tell us why they didnt take the base out first like every other explosive demolition with buildings, why do those who do explosive demolitions say this was not an explosive demolition?

You nutjobs should read this link and cite anything you have problems with-
//http://www.debunking911.com

There was a petition of over 2000 architects, engineers, and demolition experts who said it was a controlled demolition...Tell me how an unscathed steel-framed building falls from "fires" in 6 seconds.

[Plu]

There was a petition of over 2000 architects, engineers, and demolition experts who said it was a controlled demolition

A sample group of 0.0000066% of the population isn't very impressive. You can probably get an equally large group of people to say that the president is secretly a reptile or that aliens built the pyramids.
And unless you can list the petition and the professional credentials of all the people on it, along with proof that they said it, it's basically just a meaningless statement.


Also, this whole topic is about explaining how a building can collapse from fire. As to unscathed buildings; if you have any example of unscathed buildings collapsing, I'd like to see. Because the building in question wasn't unscathed at all.

[baronvonrort]

Ive written papers on 9/11 and i totally believe it was a demolition. Witnesses said they heard explosions coming from the basement. Theres also a few studies on the seismic activity below ground.

Try google for implosion world 911 and read the pdf from those who do explosive demolitions, tell us why they didnt take the base out first like every other explosive demolition with buildings, why do those who do explosive demolitions say this was not an explosive demolition?

You nutjobs should read this link and cite anything you have problems with-
//http://www.debunking911.com

There was a petition of over 2000 architects, engineers, and demolition experts who said it was a controlled demolition...Tell me how an unscathed steel-framed building falls from "fires" in 6 seconds.

Argumentum ad numerum is a logical fallacy, there are probably more than 200000 people who think Elvis is still alive not to mention the JFK nutjobs, should we consider Elvis is still alive because of a few nutjobs?

Architects contract engineers to do engineering, architects are not qualified as engineers so are they qualified to talk about engineering?

There must be millions of engineers and architects and all they could get was around 2000, what about all those engineers like me who have no doubt the building was brought down by fundamental muslims crashing aircraft into it?

I am also a qualified pilot so the nutjob theories about what nutjob pilots say is codswallop,a 757 can climb faster than they descended on 9/11, try youtube for a 747 doing a barrel roll, commercial pilots are restricted from doing things so passengers dont hit the roof or end up with hot drinks in their laps, i like flying upside down.

Implosion world hold/held world records for explosive demolitions, they wrote a PDF explaining why it had nothing in common with a explosive demolition, try google for implosion world 911 and read the pdf and take note how every building in the history of explosive demolition takes the base out first.

Which building are you ignorantly claiming was unscathed and fell in 6 seconds?

[Jason78]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE WATCH A VIDEO that shows what demolition experts have to do to make a building come down. How many times do I have to repeat this? It takes weeks of work, requires hundreds of pound of explosives, requires the stringing of miles of cable, Primacord, detonators, control boxes and connectors.

Imagine dozens of men strapped with tools, carrying K-12 saws, power drills, dragging bundles of cable down stairwell after stairwell, removing sections of wall to get to support structures, drilling or cutting into mainframe building components, installing large junction controls.

Explosive experts require years of training. They have to be licensed and registered to do their jobs. Explosives are tracked and registered. Somebody tell me how you sneak tons of dynamite into a building over weeks of time and nobody noticed. I swear to god, you people are clueless.

I think this needs to be in a 72 point font on every page of this thread.

[MitchellDaBomb]

Building 7...its highly improbable that fires melted all of the columns...and you don't need to remove the base...thermite or any other highly concentrated explosive attached to the columns anywhere near the base would do the trick. Also pictures shown of the columns are cleanly cut. I dont see why you think nutjobs are people who question the official story written by the media (owned by only 5 companies)...not to mention  the report for 9/11 was written behind closed doors.