Started by Cassia, December 28, 2021, 01:01:42 PM
Quote from: GSOgymrat on December 30, 2021, 10:07:43 AMIt's best when people are offered a choice and interventions need not be "all or nothing" or rigid.
Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on December 30, 2021, 12:04:55 PMthe part of the equation that the opposition likes most is the mandate, and that it is a vax that is mandated is secondary. The important point is to mandate something, anything, so that there is something mandated.
QuoteWhy the fuck should I be required to stop at a red light!?
Quote from: Shiranu on December 30, 2021, 12:32:44 PMI don't buy any of the conspiracies that it causes health issues, it's just not the government's place to tell you what you can or cant do with your body... and now that they know they can abuse that right even more than they did before, it's only going to creep more and more in that direction.
Quote from: Shiranu on December 30, 2021, 12:32:44 PMI don't buy any of the conspiracies that it causes health issues, it's just not the government's place to tell you what you can or cant do with your body
QuoteIt told me to put my body on the line when I was drafted for Nam.
QuoteIt tells me that my body must be strapped in when driving.
QuoteSmoking, for decades was deemed a personal activity and dangerous only to the smoker.
Quote from: Hydra009 on December 30, 2021, 01:16:06 PMhttps://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.htmlAlso: https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-long-history-of-vaccine-mandates-in-america-11631890699 (link without paywall)Fun fact: my high school (a government institution) mandated that students come in and get a meningitis shot because there was a meningitis outbreak. Currently, that stuff is mandated. No one batted an eye because right-wing pundits didn't whine about it on TV.
Quote from: Shiranu on December 30, 2021, 02:12:03 PMIt has to do with the fact that we have a strongman government who only derives it's power from having the biggest guns in the land, and by accepting they have some legitimacy in dictating what you can or cant do with your body gives them full legitimacy to do that.
Quote from: Shiranu on December 30, 2021, 02:12:03 PMI personally don't believe in that legitimacy of their rule at all, so I oppose the legitimacy of them dictating my body by default.
QuoteAre you proposing that individuals decide for themselves whether to be vaccinated or wear masks or social distance and that society just accept that more people are going to be sick and die?
QuoteI prefer the consequences of people being coerced into taking [size=78%]this [/size]vaccine to minimize all of the terrible consequences of [size=78%]this [/size]pandemic than the consequences of protecting the bodily autonomy of individuals.
Quote from: Shiranu on December 30, 2021, 03:54:37 PMYes, if the only alternative is that the government forces them to do it.