What are you atheists most curious to ask a christian about?
Here is your chance. Ask your question. I will try my best to answer your question.
Rosie O'Donnell, Phyllis Diller, Oprah.
Marry one, fuck one, kill one.
Go.
Not really anything. For most of us it's not hard to come into contact with Christians, for most of us they are in the majority of the people we come into contact with anyways. Most of us know what christianity is about. A fair lot of us, me included, even used to be Christians. Besides, there are so many denominations of Christianity that 'asking a Christian' becomes a fairly empty gesture as your convictions won't agree with a great deal of other Christians.
I don't mean to come across as rude or dismissive, though I realize I might. But I'm just trying to make clear that our 'failure to comply to Christianity' isn't from a lack of knowledge or understanding of the Christian faith. Christianity isn't something we are particularly 'curious' about. We may talk about it, but not out of curiosity.
P.S.
Fuck - marry - kill
(Though all three reluctantly.)
Are you aware that the Jews used to be polytheistic/henotheistic rather than monotheistic, and that this practice seem to have continued up until approximately 500 B.C.? That your god Yahweh used to be the son of Eloheim and Asherah and had 69 brothers - also gods? That this ended simply because a certain king didn't like the rest of the gods? That the old testament still shows some hints of this? That your god Yahweh, and his father was written together as one character, ignoring the other gods, and rendering it a fact that he cannot exist (or is just a fraud)?
We are surrounded by Christians. I used to be one. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Christian. Actually, you should put this time to better use and straighten out your misconceptions about atheists.
I was in a training this week on grief and loss and one of the other therapists said he believed in Jesus and that people who are grieving should take comfort in Jesus dying on the cross for their sins because nothing is worse pain then what he went through. This is a sentiment I have heard from other Christians that I don't understand. Using comparative suffering typically doesn't help people because often they perceive you are discounting their feelings, e.g. telling someone they shouldn't feel so bad about the death of their mother because this other person's child died and their pain is worse. I really don't completely understand the significance of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and how his death is supposed to make people feel better. Is he setting an example that no matter you are going through, whether it is losing your job or getting tortured and killed, in the end your going to a better place? Or is the point that people shouldn't count on happiness, that life is suffering and despair even for the most good and holy, and real happiness only happens after you die?
I feel like this is one of the reason I have never connected with Christianity: rationally Bible stories often don't make sense and emotionally, which is really where Christians connect, the stories don't resonate for me. It seems similar to when someone tells a joke and a friend finds it hysterical but I don't get it and even when they explain it to me-- it's funny because penguins can't fly and they look like nuns and nuns would never say that-- it still doesn't make me laugh. Anyway, I suspect that even if you explain the significance of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ I'm still not going to fully appreciate it because I don't seems to emotionally connect to the awe of the situation. There are other stories that elicit awe for me, other jokes that I find funny, but somehow the Christian ones generally elude me. This is honestly why I've always been atheist, not because religion doesn't make rational sense (lot of awesome things don't make rational sense) or that I have had a bad experience with religion (most religious people I know are very nice) but because emotionally I have never connected to any religion. None of their jokes make me laugh.
Quote from: La Dolce Vita on June 14, 2014, 05:13:41 AM
Are you aware that the Jews used to be polytheistic/henotheistic rather than monotheistic, and that this practice seem to have continued up until approximately 500 B.C.? That your god Yahweh used to be the son of Eloheim and Asherah and had 69 brothers - also gods? That this ended simply because a certain king didn't like the rest of the gods? That the old testament still shows some hints of this? That your god Yahweh, and his father was written together as one character, ignoring the other gods, and rendering it a fact that he cannot exist (or is just a fraud)?
No, I am not aware. And now that I heard of it, I do not believe it to be true. I believe the bible is the source for me to believe in, and therefore does not believe other sources for truth.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on June 14, 2014, 08:32:05 AM
I was in a training this week on grief and loss and one of the other therapists said he believed in Jesus and that people who are grieving should take comfort in Jesus dying on the cross for their sins because nothing is worse pain then what he went through. This is a sentiment I have heard from other Christians that I don't understand. Using comparative suffering typically doesn't help people because often they perceive you are discounting their feelings, e.g. telling someone they shouldn't feel so bad about the death of their mother because this other person's child died and their pain is worse. I really don't completely understand the significance of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and how his death is supposed to make people feel better. Is he setting an example that no matter you are going through, whether it is losing your job or getting tortured and killed, in the end your going to a better place? Or is the point that people shouldn't count on happiness, that life is suffering and despair even for the most good and holy, and real happiness only happens after you die?
I feel like this is one of the reason I have never connected with Christianity: rationally Bible stories often don't make sense and emotionally, which is really where Christians connect, the stories don't resonate for me. It seems similar to when someone tells a joke and a friend finds it hysterical but I don't get it and even when they explain it to me-- it's funny because penguins can't fly and they look like nuns and nuns would never say that-- it still doesn't make me laugh. Anyway, I suspect that even if you explain the significance of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ I'm still not going to fully appreciate it because I don't seems to emotionally connect to the awe of the situation. There are other stories that elicit awe for me, other jokes that I find funny, but somehow the Christian ones generally elude me. This is honestly why I've always been atheist, not because religion doesn't make rational sense (lot of awesome things don't make rational sense) or that I have had a bad experience with religion (most religious people I know are very nice) but because emotionally I have never connected to any religion. None of their jokes make me laugh.
It is not Jesus' suffering that gives Christians comfort. It is His love for us, that He is willing to be our scapegoat before God for our sins that gives christians comfort.
What's a god?
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 09:00:12 AM
No, I am not aware.
Ignorance of the facts is not surprising. While Christians don't hold a monopoly on ignorance of the facts it seems to be the default position.
QuoteAnd now that I heard of it, I do not believe it to be true. I believe the bible is the source for me to believe in, and therefore does not believe other sources for truth.
Why don't you believe it is true? Did you do any research to check La Dolce Vita's claims? If so what were your sources? Ignorance is excusable. Intentional ignorance is not. La Dolce Vita's claims are verifiable. The Bible is not.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 04:21:59 AM
What are you atheists most curious to ask a christian about?
Here is your chance. Ask your question. I will try my best to answer your question.
Do you believe that the Bible is true?
Do you believe that Mark 16:18 is true?
Would you drink bleach to prove your faith?
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 09:02:17 AM
It is His love for us, that He is willing to be our scapegoat before God for our sins that gives christians comfort.
What a crock. You can't be an asshole, and then pass your guilt off on someone else. This scapegoat nonsense dates back to ancient times when uneducated humans thought they could heap their sins on a goat and then drive it out into the desert to suffer and die. <poof> your sins are gone! That's idiotic. You would have to be stupid to believe such a thing. Your sins are non-transferable.
People were so superstitious 3000 years ago, that con men would offer to eat their sins for a fee, so they wouldn't go to Hell. Now if there were such a place, no one could or would eat your sins away. Your past actions are gone. They have no physical qualities that can be transferred. But people back then believed all sorts of stupid things.
Do you believe that atheists have no moral compass?
Do you believe atheists are poor mislead souls that are going to hell unless they change?
What is the origin of life? Did all life, including humans, evolve from a common ancestor?
How often do you crap and fart?
Ok Chongjasmine here's a question..
Why are u here in an Atheist forum ? do u think there's any chance that any of us might say something or quote someone or something that may cause you to question ur beliefs , an if thats not the case well the only other reason u could be here is to try to wind us up , or mibbe ur just here out of curiosity....what u say...?
Do you have any questions to ask an atheist?
Quote from: Mermaid on June 14, 2014, 11:13:50 AM
Do you have any questions to ask an atheist?
I don't want to answer any questions.
The questions are usually stupid, anyway.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 09:00:12 AM
No, I am not aware. And now that I heard of it, I do not believe it to be true. I believe the bible is the source for me to believe in, and therefore does not believe other sources for truth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlnnWbkMlbg
You are free to check this guy's sources in the video description if you don't believe him.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 04:21:59 AM
What are you atheists most curious to ask a christian about?
Here is your chance. Ask your question. I will try my best to answer your question.
Why do most Christians teach everlasting torment when the bible clearly teaches Annihilation ie: the wages of sin is death.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 04:21:59 AM
What are you atheists most curious to ask a christian about?
Here is your chance. Ask your question. I will try my best to answer your question.
Who wrote the Bible?
(This one is nice because it tends to be diagnostic of people's intelligence/education and separates the real nuts from the less nutty nuts)
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 09:00:12 AM
No, I am not aware. And now that I heard of it, I do not believe it to be true. I believe the bible is the source for me to believe in, and therefore does not believe other sources for truth.
I dare you to be more predictable. If that's what passes for an adequate response to new information among Christians, to be fair and consistent, you would have to consider an adequate response from a person who follows different scriptures than you do, leaving us with nothing to work with regarding whether your religion is any more believable than any other.
Do you believe if you were raised in a Yazidi household in Norhtern Iraq, that you would be a Christian today? If not, do you believe that it is just for you to be consigned to eternal torture over something that is due to geography and history? If so, are you on drugs?
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 09:00:12 AM
No, I am not aware. And now that I heard of it, I do not believe it to be true. I believe the bible is the source for me to believe in, and therefore does not believe other sources for truth.
There. Now we see that faith is am act of pride.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 09:00:12 AM
No, I am not aware. And now that I heard of it, I do not believe it to be true. I believe the bible is the source for me to believe in, and therefore does not believe other sources for truth.
So you stubbornly believe that only YOUR beliefs are correct, and everyone else is wrong? Yeah, I guess that sounds about right. Good job, champ.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 09:02:17 AM
It is not Jesus' suffering that gives Christians comfort. It is His love for us, that He is willing to be our scapegoat before God for our sins that gives christians comfort.
Quick question: is there a way to show someone that you love them besides getting yourself brutally executed? I ask because I'm trying to figure out an alternative father's day gift.
I have two questions:
1. Are you here to try and convert any of us to Christi(ns)anity?
2. How big are your boobs?
I fucking love the fact that some Christians seem to think that Christianity is some new, mystical thing to us. If we only read a Bible we would be saved, nevermind the fact that a loy of us were Christian before this, if we only knew what the Bible ACTUALLY said we would bow down and believe in Jesus.
Here's my questions to the dumb fuckhead: Can you name a secular reason why homosexuality is wrong? Can you name a secular reason why anything is wrong? If not why do you feel fit saying you are a moral person? If so why do you need the Bible to tell you so?
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 04:21:59 AM
What are you atheists most curious to ask a christian about?
Here is your chance. Ask your question. I will try my best to answer your question.
How often do you crap and fart? That's the real question.
Quote from: leo on June 14, 2014, 08:01:58 PM
How often do you crap and fart? That's the real question.
Already asked that Leo
I actually have a legitimate 2 part question...
What is the least believable part of your belief system? And why do you still believe it?
Sent from your mom.
Quote from: Jason78 on June 14, 2014, 10:02:31 AM
Do you believe that the Bible is true?
Do you believe that Mark 16:18 is true?
Would you drink bleach to prove your faith?
I believe the bible is true.
I believe Mark 16:18 is true.
I will not drink bleach to prove my faith.
Quote from: Mermaid on June 14, 2014, 10:04:17 AM
Do you believe that atheists have no moral compass?
Do you believe atheists are poor mislead souls that are going to hell unless they change?
What is the origin of life? Did all life, including humans, evolve from a common ancestor?
I believe atheists have moral compass.
I believe they will go to hell unless they accept Jesus.
Life originated from God.
Quote from: Moralnihilist on June 14, 2014, 10:13:07 AM
How often do you crap and fart?
As often as any average person.
Quote from: 10 Green Bottles..... on June 14, 2014, 10:32:30 AM
Ok Chongjasmine here's a question..
Why are u here in an Atheist forum ? do u think there's any chance that any of us might say something or quote someone or something that may cause you to question ur beliefs , an if thats not the case well the only other reason u could be here is to try to wind us up , or mibbe ur just here out of curiosity....what u say...?
I am here, just like the reason I am in any other forum, to fellowship with people.
Atheists are people just like myself, and it will be nice to know them more.
I have no atheist family members of friends in real life, so I can only know you better in your forum.
Quote from: Mermaid on June 14, 2014, 11:13:50 AM
Do you have any questions to ask an atheist?
Yes. How do you decide what is good or what is evil? Does the lack of an after-life frighten you?
How do you cope with death since you do not believe in an after-life?
Does lack of punishment for doing evil hinders you from doing the right thing in life?
If there is evidence that God exists beyond doubt, will you worship Him?
Quote from: KUSA on June 14, 2014, 12:22:21 PM
Why do most Christians teach everlasting torment when the bible clearly teaches Annihilation ie: the wages of sin is death.
The bible does not teach annihilation, it teaches eternal torment. At least Jesus does so.
Quote from: Hydra009 on June 14, 2014, 12:34:43 PM
Who wrote the Bible?
(This one is nice because it tends to be diagnostic of people's intelligence/education and separates the real nuts from the less nutty nuts)
Both God and men. God inspired, men dictated.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:43:27 PM
I will not drink bleach to prove my faith.
what if god asked you to prove your faith by drinking bleach? How do you know Jason isn't god?
I wouldn't piss off god if I were you. He once did a factory reset with earth because he didn't like how it was running.
Quote from: Mister Agenda on June 14, 2014, 01:16:48 PM
I dare you to be more predictable. If that's what passes for an adequate response to new information among Christians, to be fair and consistent, you would have to consider an adequate response from a person who follows different scriptures than you do, leaving us with nothing to work with regarding whether your religion is any more believable than any other.
Do you believe if you were raised in a Yazidi household in Norhtern Iraq, that you would be a Christian today? If not, do you believe that it is just for you to be consigned to eternal torture over something that is due to geography and history? If so, are you on drugs?
I will still be a christian if I am born in northern Iraq. I am not born in a christian household. I suffer persecutions every now and then for my faith in Jesus. If God confined me to eternal torment, I will still think he is just. When I was a non believer, I always knew I was going to hell for my sins, yet I did not hate God. Now, that I am a christian, I am no longer afraid of hell. I am not on drugs.
Quote from: frosty on June 14, 2014, 01:57:11 PM
So you stubbornly believe that only YOUR beliefs are correct, and everyone else is wrong? Yeah, I guess that sounds about right. Good job, champ.
Just like you believe you are right and I am wrong.
Quote from: Hydra009 on June 14, 2014, 02:23:54 PM
Quick question: is there a way to show someone that you love them besides getting yourself brutally executed? I ask because I'm trying to figure out an alternative father's day gift.
Yes, like giving good gifts to people. Beside being brutally executed, God gave sunlight, food and sense of taste and touch to men.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on June 14, 2014, 09:14:47 PM
I actually have a legitimate 2 part question...
What is the least believable part of your belief system? And why do you still believe it?
Sent from your mom.
The least believable part of my belief system is the book of job, where God allowed bad things to happen to good people. I still believe it, because I still trust in God's goodness despite the facts that He will allow bad things to happen to me.
Quote from: DunkleSeele on June 14, 2014, 05:02:45 PM
I have two questions:
1. Are you here to try and convert any of us to Christi(ns)anity?
2. How big are your boobs?
I will like to convert all of you to Christ if I can. Though I know I mostly cannot.
My boobs is my secret.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:52:15 PM
Does lack of punishment for doing evil hinders you from doing the right thing in life?
Do you know what empathy is? From this question it seems not. I would not want to meet you in real life, is the only thing keeping you from harming others the thought of Jesus spanking you for being naughty?
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on June 14, 2014, 05:43:55 PM
I fucking love the fact that some Christians seem to think that Christianity is some new, mystical thing to us. If we only read a Bible we would be saved, nevermind the fact that a loy of us were Christian before this, if we only knew what the Bible ACTUALLY said we would bow down and believe in Jesus.
Here's my questions to the dumb fuckhead: Can you name a secular reason why homosexuality is wrong? Can you name a secular reason why anything is wrong? If not why do you feel fit saying you are a moral person? If so why do you need the Bible to tell you so?
Secular reason for wrongness of homosexuality: If everyone is a homosexual, the world will end. Homosexuality is against nature. Secular reason for anything that is wrong: Killing is wrong, stealing is wrong. Do we need a reason to say that these are wrong?
The bible is the Word of God. It is above secular laws. And oh yes, insulting someone by calling them a dumb fuckhead like what you did is wrong.
1. The world wouldn't end just because our species does.
2. A lot of homosexual couples desire children. IVF could allow our species to continue even if everyone was homosexual.
3. Homosexuality is not against nature. Many species exhibit homosexual behavior including other mammals, birds, fish, reptiles and amphibians.
Homosexual argument fail.
Quote from: SGOS on June 14, 2014, 06:45:08 AM
We are surrounded by Christians. I used to be one. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Christian. Actually, you should put this time to better use and straighten out your misconceptions about atheists.
Why's it always dead cats? Why not live ones?
-Nam
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:52:15 PM
Yes. How do you decide what is good or what is evil?
Harm and equity. I don't like harm to myself, and I don't like causing harm to others. I like to treat everyone I meet with the same respect that I would like to get from them. It really all begins from there.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:52:15 PM
Does the lack of an after-life frighten you?
Not any more than the lack of a before-life frightens me.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:52:15 PM
How do you cope with death since you do not believe in an after-life?
The same way I cope with birth as I don't believe in a before-life. The important part comes now, in the time between the time I am born and the time I die.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:52:15 PM
Does lack of punishment for doing evil hinders you from doing the right thing in life?
No. If anything, it means doing right in the now, because there's no time after death to make up for a lousy life. The legacy I leave behind is the only thing that will be worth anything after my death.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:52:15 PM
If there is evidence that God exists beyond doubt, will you worship Him?
Probably not. A good god would not want to be worshiped. An indifferent god would not care. An evil god would not deserve it.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:55:31 PM
Both God and men. God inspired, men dictated.
Oh honey...
*checks off seriously nutty column*
Quote from: the_antithesis on June 14, 2014, 09:17:37 AM
What's a god?
It's that veiny purple looking thing in cow shit.
I cowshit you not.
-Nam
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:52:15 PMHow do you decide what is good or what is evil?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality_without_religion#Consequentialism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality_without_religion#Consequentialism) A little of column A, a little of column B, a little of column C...
QuoteDoes the lack of an after-life frighten you?
About as frightened as I am of the boogeyman. Death is by definition the end of life, so logically there cannot be an "after"life. And it's hard to be afraid of something that doesn't exist.
QuoteHow do you cope with death since you do not believe in an after-life?
Dunno. But apparently I'm coping better than the religious. Go me.
QuoteDoes lack of punishment for doing evil hinders you from doing the right thing in life?
You mean the whole cosmic justice thing? Or criminals that aren't punished for wrongdoing by the courts? Either way, no.
QuoteIf there is evidence that God exists beyond doubt, will you worship Him?
Would such a God be worthy of worship? Would such a God require worship? Seems like the sort of thing that only someone with a frail ego would demand.
So no, probably not. But if a God was actually shown to exist beyond reasonable doubt, I would accept that such a God exists. Everything else is conditional on which sort of God it would be. But let me hazard a guess, the Christian one, right? I must be psychic.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 11:10:13 PMYes, like giving good gifts to people. Beside being brutally executed, God gave sunlight, food and sense of taste and touch to men.
I know, right?!
And there's also beetles, and ants, and dolphins, and polar bears, and I forget what they're called...oh, I remember, Cordyceps.
Goddidit!
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:52:15 PM
Does lack of punishment for doing evil hinders you from doing the right thing in life?
Never heard of prison?
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:52:15 PM
If there is evidence that God exists beyond doubt, will you worship Him?
Kim Jong-il was real; never felt any desire to worship him.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 11:05:21 PM
When I was a non believer, I always knew I was going to hell for my sins,
Then you were not a nonbeliever.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 11:19:46 PM
If everyone is a homosexual, the world will end.
If everyone were a teacher we'd all starve to death.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 11:19:46 PM
Homosexuality is against nature.
Odd that it occurs naturally, then.
Hey cj. Have you accepted your sacrament from the church of Shrek is love, Shrek is life?
Sent from your mom.
Why do you believe in god? i don't want a predictable "cuz its da truth" answer,i want to know your genuine reasons for believing. if it involves fear and want of reward then yeeerrrrr out champ.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:52:15 PM
Yes. How do you decide what is good or what is evil?
Who gets to decide what is "good" or "evil"? In your case Biblegod. Let me ask an indirect question about "evil" that somewhat correlates with this subject:
Do you hate yourself? Do you hate your mother? Father? Brother? Sister? Do you hate us? If you say "no" then you must hate Biblegod because you have to hate all those people, including yourself, to love Biblegod. The Bible says so (Luke 14:26). So, answer me this: isn't that, in of itself, "evil"? And if not, how is that "good"?
QuoteDoes the lack of an after-life frighten you?
Does Gullom from Lord of the Rings, frighten you? Of course not! And, why? It's made up.
QuoteHow do you cope with death since you do not believe in an after-life?
Very well.
QuoteDoes lack of punishment for doing evil hinders you from doing the right thing in life?
What "evil" do I do? Did you know you're doing "evil" right now just conversing with us? (2 Corinthians 6:14)
QuoteIf there is evidence that God exists beyond doubt, will you worship Him?
Your Biblegod? No. Any god? No.
-Nam
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:43:27 PM
I believe the bible is true.
I believe Mark 16:18 is true.
I will not drink bleach to prove my faith.
Then I don't believe that you have the courage of your convictions.
chongjasmine, all I see is you making unsubstantiated claims based on anecdotal belief systems. You claim that the deity you believe in did this, did that, and it sounds great, but you have not provided a single shred of evidence for what you claim.
I'll give you a hint: This is the problem. You come on this forum and say "god did X, Y AND Z" and all I see, literally, is you presenting the claim to us. I see no evidence. No research. No data. Just you making a claim in text that something happened. That's it.... literally.
So yeah, if we can get past the point of you, literally, just making empty claims, then we can get a real discussion going here. If we can't get past that, then you will not be taken seriously. I am warning you now before other people here start to criticize your very obvious lack of objective evidence for anything you are saying.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on June 14, 2014, 04:33:33 AM
Rosie O'Donnell, Phyllis Diller, Oprah.
Marry one, fuck one, kill one.
Go.
Oprah to fuck marry and kill, in that order. Only because Rosie o'donnell is unfuckably irritating. And is Phillis diller still alive???
Quote from: hrdlr110 on June 15, 2014, 03:41:07 AM
And is Phillis diller still alive???
No. she died 2 years ago. you still have to include her in one of the options. Play by the rules!!!! :lol:
Quote from: Nam on June 14, 2014, 11:54:14 PM
Why's it always dead cats? Why not live ones?
-Nam
I suppose dead cats just swing easier. I've never actually tried to swing a live cat, but it could be problematic.
Do you think its okay to send innocent people to hell?
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:52:15 PM
Yes. How do you decide what is good or what is evil?
The same way everyone else does, with my brain.
QuoteDoes the lack of an after-life frighten you?
I have absolutely no desire to exist for eternity. Anyone who does probably isn't very good at math or weighing the potential consequences of their desires.
QuoteHow do you cope with death since you do not believe in an after-life?
The same way I cope with every other fact of life that I have no power to change.
QuoteDoes lack of punishment for doing evil hinders you from doing the right thing in life?
Here is something Christians rarely understand about being a moral person. If you're only choosing to do the right thing because god will punish you if you don't, that is not being moral, that is covering your own ass. Being moral is choosing to do the right thing every time even when there is absolutely no punishment for doing otherwise.
QuoteIf there is evidence that God exists beyond doubt, will you worship Him?
I doubt it. Any god that would command me to worship him would not be worthy of my worship. But here's a question for you. If there were evidence that god exists beyond a doubt, and that god told you to kill your only child, would you?
Quote from: Johan on June 15, 2014, 07:46:17 AM
Here is something Christians rarely understand about being a moral person. If you're only choosing to do the right thing because god will punish you if you don't, that is not being moral, that is covering your own ass. Being moral is choosing to do the right thing every time even when there is absolutely no punishment for doing otherwise.
^ This
Where was God living before he created Heaven?
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:43:27 PM
I believe the bible is true.
why?
QuoteI will not drink bleach to prove my faith.
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QuoteI believe they will go to hell unless they accept Jesus.
Isn't it funny that despite how much the bible cites jesus as being all loving, always forgiving and having desire to bring humanity salvation he practically forces you into his service? seriously,"I'll only save your life if you worship me,and if not you can go fuck your self and die" isn't what i'd call benevolent. if no one wants to worship you, that person is as good as dead? how the fuck can ANYONE call the biblical god good and righteous?
QuoteYes. How do you decide what is good or what is evil?
It's important to understand that good and evil are moral constructs created by humanity in order give some meaning behind their actions(my view on that...i think lol) and thus are ultimately subjective to each individual. but to answer your question i help others and do good deeds because i feel its good to do good unto others and its right to treat others as you want to be treated. i don't need to be scared into acting like a decent human being like your kind.i like to help people because it brings others happiness,not just to get a reward like most Christians do.
QuoteDoes the lack of an after-life frighten you?
this seems to imply that only heaven is the true afterlife,how do you know the afterlifes of other religions aren't the true ones and yours is the wrong one? the "lack" of an afterlife doesn't scare me because its impossible to know if it does or doesnt exist and as much as i fear dying at times,i've already accepted whatever awaits me when i pass on; be it nothingness or hell or whatever. no point panicking over what cant be controlled.
QuoteHow do you cope with death since you do not believe in an after-life?
it happens,i'm going to die,no point worrying about it,it wont change the fact that i'll die.
QuoteDoes lack of punishment for doing evil hinders you from doing the right thing in life?
I don't have to be threatened with eternal damnation to act like a fucking decent human being.
QuoteJust like you believe you are right and I am wrong.
see the thing is we have the advantage of physical evidence to back up our beliefs,you don't.
Quote
I will still be a christian if I am born in northern Iraq. I am not born in a christian household. I suffer persecutions every now and then for my faith in Jesus. If God confined me to eternal torment, I will still think he is just.
then you are really fucking brain washed. you truly believe a god that would punish YOU for doing nothing inherently wrong just for being born in a situation beyond your control is JUST!? no
BENEVOLENT FORCE WOULD EVER DO SOMETHING SO HORRIBLE WITHOUT JUST CAUSE.are YOU FUCKING high!?
QuoteSecular reason for wrongness of homosexuality: If everyone is a homosexual, the world will end.
LOL WHAT? THE END OF HUMANITY=/= THE END OF EARTH? our death,despite what humans like to think,would have little lasting impact on earth. hell,one could argue our extinction would be good for earth.
QuoteHomosexuality is against nature.
interesting. its really weird how it occurs in nature then,even weirder because you believe god made everything,and if homosexuality occurs in the natural world he technically made homosexuality. you realize some species in nature only have a single gender? theres an entire species of whiptail lizards that are
completely female, and an
all-male species of fish.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:45:21 PM
I believe atheists have moral compass.
I believe they will go to hell unless they accept Jesus.
Life originated from God.
If you believe atheists have a moral compass, why the question about good and evil, and "lack of punishment"? I don't think I believe you when you say you think atheists have a moral compass. It seems as though unless people worship the God you see as the one and only true God, they have no direction and no sense of right and wrong. Am I right about that?
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:52:15 PM
Yes. How do you decide what is good or what is evil? Does the lack of an after-life frighten you?
How do you cope with death since you do not believe in an after-life?
The same way as everyone else. Everyone dies, religion or not.
QuoteDoes lack of punishment for doing evil hinders you from doing the right thing in life?
If there is evidence that God exists beyond doubt, will you worship Him?
To answer your question about evidence, sure, probably. But I see none. I see an incredible lack thereof.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 11:19:46 PM
Secular reason for wrongness of homosexuality: If everyone is a homosexual, the world will end.
But not everyone is homosexual. It's not a virus that spreads. I am a supporter of same sex marriage, my sister is married to another woman, in fact, and I haven't become infected with the Gay Virus. (and in fact, she has three children, and I don't have any--is that against God's will?). You apparently think sexuality is something we choose. Have you actually ever thought that through? Like, really really thought about what you are saying here?
And furthermore, are you saying that the world cannot exist without humans? Like, as in, we are the Only Species that matters? Do you think we are not animals, like all other species of animals? If not, why not?
QuoteHomosexuality is against nature.
What does that even mean?
Quote from: drunkenshoe on June 15, 2014, 04:15:27 AM
According to your name, you are a woman. According to your religion and holly book, you are inferior to men AND as a life long nonbeliever woman who has been able to see your kind's bullshit since she was a child, you are inferior to me. You are inferior to all the free thinkers, who are aware what they have today and how it was gained.
:arrow: As a woman you are not allowed to speak your mind or opinion according to your holly laws which are 'above' the secular ones. Secular laws gave you that right and without them it would be taken from your hands. Now, act along with your holly laws, kindly shut the fuck up and get the fuck out.
Is "holly" on purpose?
-Nam
Quote from: SGOS on June 15, 2014, 04:52:53 AM
I suppose dead cats just swing easier. I've never actually tried to swing a live cat, but it could be problematic.
I once tied my cat to a ceiling fan and he threw up. I know that sounds cruel but he kept leaving dead lizards in my shoe and peed on me.
It was deserving.
;)
-Nam
Quote from: St Giordano Bruno on June 15, 2014, 08:29:31 AM
Where was God living before he created Heaven?
Lilliput. I hear it's nice this time of year.
-Nam
Quote from: Mermaid on June 15, 2014, 10:38:55 AM
If you believe atheists have a moral compass, why the question about good and evil, and "lack of punishment"? I don't think I believe you when you say you think atheists have a moral compass. It seems as though unless people worship the God you see as the one and only true God, they have no direction and no sense of right and wrong. Am I right about that?
Correlates with the myths of "no atheists in foxholes" and "only atheists are in prison".
-Nam
Quote from: drunkenshoe on June 15, 2014, 11:55:30 AM
Lol, no I keep typing it that way. I don't know why. English is my second language, not using actively. They are related by the way. Holy and holly I mean. From pagan roots.
Yeah, I initially was going to make a snarky comment but, I'm new here, so I held back. It's hard to hold back.
-Nam
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 11:15:09 PM
I will like to convert all of you to Christ if I can. Though I know I mostly cannot.
My boobs is my secret.
Ok, since you want to convert people, lets see some evidence of whatever god thing that you believe in.
Also Id need to see some evidence of these boobs you are referring to. Pictures would be nice.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:52:15 PM
Yes. How do you decide what is good or what is evil?
Define good and evil
QuoteDoes the lack of an after-life frighten you?
What if you chose the wrong religion and the real god just gets more and more pissed off the more you pray to the wrong god?
QuoteHow do you cope with death since you do not believe in an after-life?
I don't fear it if thats what you are asking. If you are referring to the death of those I hold close, then I cope with it the same as you. I mourn the loss of someone.
QuoteDoes lack of punishment for doing evil hinders you from doing the right thing in life?
Nope. I live by the simple "commandment" of don't be a dick. Works pretty good so far.
QuoteIf there is evidence that God exists beyond doubt, will you worship Him?
Nope.
I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.
1 Timothy 2:12
Aren't you afraid of going to hell because of this thread?
Another question for Chongjasmine:
If you think homosexuality is bad, why do you insist on involving other people in this belief? If you don't like it, fine. Don't do it. Why assume everyone else should believe what you believe? Can't you just mind your own business? You are pretty sure God exists, and I am pretty sure He doesn't. Who is right in that fundamental difference of opinion? Why would you think I should follow YOUR Bible?
I think this is the greatest mystery of religious proselytizing and bible-banging for me: Why involve others? I love the color green, but I don't insist others paint their houses green, I don't give a shit what color you paint, so why do you care what color my house is?
I wonder why Christians focus so much on homosexuality when, according to the Bible, it's equal to all other sins. Why not focus on incest? Bestiality? Adultery? Or a bevy of other sins, like eating pork? Why do the vast majority of Christians eat pork? It's a sin to eat pork, according to the Bible.
I know, I know...some of those things (or all of them) are OT, not NT and yet Genesis, Exodus, Proverbs, and Psalms are in the OT, are quoted a lot by Christians. So, Christiansâ,,¢ at the end of the day are hypocrites who, of course, most likely, never read the entirety of the Bible.
Having someone read it to you at a church, them interpreting it in their SPAG, does not equate to: I read the Bible.
-Nam
I have another question:
If god is real, then why do I lose my car keys in the first place?
Quote from: PickelledEggs on June 15, 2014, 01:53:06 PM
I have another question:
If god is real, then why do I lose my car keys in the first place?
You're not losing them, Biblegod is stealing them. It's a trickster, you know?
-Nam
Quote from: Nam on June 15, 2014, 02:17:51 PM
You're not losing them, Biblegod is stealing them. It's a trickster, you know?
-Nam
Just like this dinosaur bones!? Testing our faith... What an asshole-god
Sent from your mom.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on June 15, 2014, 03:42:20 PM
Your car keys are made by Jews and buried too?
:rotflmao:
Sent from your mom.
I'm picturing the OP showing up at church this morning with this thread in order to consult and get the best apologetic answers to the issues raised here.
Quote from: PringleTree on June 15, 2014, 04:19:04 PM
I'm picturing the OP showing up at church this morning with this thread in order to consult and get the best apologetic answers to the issues raised here.
Easier to go online. You're already there. But I guess it has to be the correctâ,,¢ apologetics.
-Nam
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 11:15:09 PM
I will like to convert all of you to Christ if I can. Though I know I mostly cannot.
My boobs is my secret.
As I thought. A word of warning: proselitysing isn't taken very well over here and is even against the forum rules.
<----And I have a banhammer.
I demand that the OP respond to my post. If you are not going to respond to my post, there's no point responding to any of the other posts here, as my post is basically the starting point of this whole general discussion. In concept, not order of posts. Go read it again.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 11:15:09 PM
I will like to convert all of you to Christ if I can.
Give it your best shot :D
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:54:46 PM
The bible does not teach annihilation, it teaches eternal torment. At least Jesus does so.
Wrong! The wages of sin is DEATH. There almost every bit of biblical evidence clearly states that eternal life is given when you accept Jesus. The soul is not inherently immortal. Annihilation is what the Bible talks about.
You Christians love to spread bulshit fear about eternal torment just to satisfy your sadistic nature.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 04:21:59 AM
What are you atheists most curious to ask a christian about?
Here is your chance. Ask your question. I will try my best to answer your question.
Your religion says that mankind is "fallen" and depraved. Does it strike you personally as strange that the best plan for salvation that a "perfect" god could come up with is to cease personal contact with these troubled beings, giving them instead a book which requires "interpretation" by those very same morally corrupt beings and telling them to spread amongst themselves the "Truth" that they, depraved as they all are, find within the book. What could possibly go wrong?
I've been arguing against people like her for 7 years, 30,000+ posts (from varying websites) I have found the intellect of the vast majority of Christians: they have none. As Twain once said, "Faith is believing what you know ain't so.".
-Nam
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 11:15:09 PM
I will like to convert all of you to Christ if I can. Though I know I mostly cannot.
This automatically puts you in the category of chew-toy, in my book.
QuoteMy boobs is my secret.
You ARE a boob.
Anyone wanna know my boobs size? anyone?
Ok :(
Quote from: christy starseeker on June 15, 2014, 07:26:54 PM
Anyone wanna know my boobs size? anyone?
Ok :(
Is this a blind taste test?
Quote from: christy starseeker on June 15, 2014, 07:26:54 PM
Anyone wanna know my boobs size? anyone?
Ok :(
I don't think I have ever read such a stupid question in my life.
Of course we want to know your boob size. :lol:
Quote from: PickelledEggs on June 15, 2014, 08:23:22 PM
I don't think I have ever read such a stupid question in my life.
Of course we want to know your boob size. :lol:
I wanted to say 'I would only like to know her boob size if she lived around my area' but that would make me sound like a huuuuuuuuuuuge creep. At least I think so.
So for secular reasons against homosexuality you have:
1: If everyone were homosexual the world (humanity) would end.
Me calling you a dumb fuckhead was right on the mark, it seems. Do you honestly think that homosexuality being accepted by society would make every man jump on a cock like it was made of pure bliss and every woman immediately slime themselves with wet pussy like it was a goddamn slip and slide? Cause that's the only way your reasoning makes any sense, and if you honestly think that you are a fucking retard. There are several pro-gay members on this forum, but as far as I can tell only the gay or bisexual ones have ever wanted to shake up with the same sex.
Shit, by your metric celibacy is also wrong, because if everyone were celibate humanity would end. Better start slutting it up and popping out babies before your eggs dry up.
2: It is unnatural.
Forfiet your clothes, computer, car, and anything else you may possess. The next time you eat, it better be something you killed with your bare hands, and no cooking it either. Nature calls.
Now maybe you'll eventually be able to find out how to determine ethics without a giant book someday, but that would require thought.
Quote from: frosty on June 15, 2014, 09:07:25 PM
I wanted to say 'I would only like to know her boob size if she lived around my area' but that would make me sound like a huuuuuuuuuuuge creep. At least I think so.
Lol yeah that would have been a bit creepy
Sent from your mom.
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on June 15, 2014, 09:12:26 PMMe calling you a dumb fuckhead was right on the mark, it seems.
To be fair, you could accuse newbie theists of that randomly and you'd be right most of the time. We're certainly on a roll lately. Maybe our fair site is like a beacon for evangelists with less sense than conviction. Or maybe everyone has a dumb streak which the faithful disproportionately proudly put on display.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on June 15, 2014, 08:23:22 PM
I don't think I have ever read such a stupid question in my life.
Of course we want to know your boob size. :lol:
My breasts are massive,round jiggly E-cup brabusters , now i technically can't PROVE this without physical evidence but you see,if you have faith and believe they are then one day you will have a reward in marshmallow heaven. Do you accept titties as your lord and savior? :D
Quote from: christy starseeker on June 15, 2014, 11:16:23 PM
My breasts are massive,round jiggly E-cup brabusters , now i technically can't PROVE this without physical evidence but you see,if you have faith and believe they are then one day you will have a reward in marshmallow heaven. Do you accept titties as your lord and savior? :D
I praise the tittes! But I'm going to need proof. As aitm says, nude pics or it didn't happen.
Sent from your mom.
Quote from: christy starseeker on June 15, 2014, 11:16:23 PM
My breasts are massive,round jiggly E-cup brabusters , now i technically can't PROVE this without physical evidence but you see,if you have faith and believe they are then one day you will have a reward in marshmallow heaven. Do you accept titties as your lord and savior? :D
I believe you, and you do have evidence. It's the push back of words next to punctuation. Either that or you're incapable of hitting the space bar when prompted but I think it's your tits. Bothers me a little less.
-Nam
Quote from: christy starseeker on June 15, 2014, 11:16:23 PM
Do you accept titties as your lord and savior? :D
Worship boobs? Now, THAT's a religion I can join!
Quote from: Nam on June 15, 2014, 11:35:22 PM
I believe you, and you do have evidence. It's the push back of words next to punctuation. Either that or you're incapable of hitting the space bar when prompted but I think it's your tits. Bothers me a little less.
-Nam
Actually you can blame that on a lack of proper education :P my mom took me out of school at a young age to teach me about god and stuff.it's still hard for me to get grammar and punctuation down pat DX
er,i mean yes. it's the tits.
QuoteWorship boobs? Now, THAT's a religion I can join!
And ass,especially the ass...and boobs.
Quote from: christy starseeker on June 16, 2014, 12:59:23 AM
Actually you can blame that on a lack of proper education :P my mom took me out of school at a young age to teach me about god and stuff.it's still hard for me to get grammar and punctuation down pat DX
That's not a good enough excuse: I never graduated high school <---- that's an excuse. Of course, I actually never did graduate high school, or junior high, or elementary, and I have the report cards to prove it. They just passed me. I'm poor at math; they didn't care, they passed everyone especially those failing. Give you an idea what summer school was like for us: no matter what subject you failed if you walked around the track once a day, and learned the history of Orlando you got an A. They didn't give a fuck if we learned anything. Most teachers got paid less than janitors so in defiance almost every single one of them treated all their students like shit. Orange County education from 1982-1995.
That, my big boob gal is an excuse but as Mark Twain once said, "Don't let schooling interfere with your education.".
Quoteer,i mean yes. it's the tits.
And ass,especially the ass...and boobs.
Big ass, huh? I knew it!
-Nam
Quote from: Nam on June 16, 2014, 01:14:45 AM
That's not a good enough excuse: I never graduated high school <---- that's an excuse. Of course, I actually never did graduate high school, or junior high, or elementary, and I have the report cards to prove it. They just passed me. I'm poor at math; they didn't care, they passed everyone especially those failing. Give you an idea what summer school was like for us: no matter what subject you failed if you walked around the track once a day, and learned the history of Orlando you got an A. They didn't give a fuck if we learned anything. Most teachers got paid less than janitors so in defiance almost every single one of them treated all their students like shit. Orange County education from 1982-1995.
That, my big boob gal is an excuse but as Mark Twain once said, "Don't let schooling interfere with your education.".
i never even finished elementary school XD i still gotta get a ged xD but i wasn't trying to make an excuse,i admit i'm stupid :P
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on June 15, 2014, 09:12:26 PM
Do you honestly think that homosexuality being accepted by society would make every man jump on a cock like it was made of pure bliss and every woman immediately slime themselves with wet pussy like it was a goddamn slip and slide?
They say that I'm a dreamer.
But I'm not the only one.
Some day you'll join us, and the world will live as one :)
Quote from: christy starseeker on June 16, 2014, 01:21:24 AM
i never even finished elementary school XD i still gotta get a ged xD but i wasn't trying to make an excuse,i admit i'm stupid :P
It's okay to be stupid...just not in public.
;-)
-Nam
Quote from: Nam on June 16, 2014, 01:35:52 AM
It's okay to be stupid...just not in public.
;-)
-Nam
But then i can't annoy people :D
Quote from: christy starseeker on June 16, 2014, 12:59:23 AM
Actually you can blame that on a lack of proper education :P my mom took me out of school at a young age to teach me about god and stuff.it's still hard for me to get grammar and punctuation down pat DX
er,i mean yes. it's the tits.
And ass,especially the ass...and boobs.
(http://www.troll.me/images/ancient-aliens-guy/dat-ass.jpg)
Quote from: christy starseeker on June 16, 2014, 01:38:08 AM
But then i can't annoy people :D
Sure you can! Just talk incessantly about your tits, and if you want post a few pictures of them.
;-)
-Nam
Quote from: Nam on June 16, 2014, 01:43:44 AM
Sure you can! Just talk incessantly about your tits, and if you want post a few pictures of them.
;-)
-Nam
Nice try xD
Quote from: christy starseeker on June 16, 2014, 01:51:14 AM
Nice try xD
Nice try? You brought your tits up. We didn't bring them up. We didn't say, "Hey! Welcome! What size are your tits?"
I know what you are...a tease. Yep, that's it. It's okay, though.
;-)
-Nam
Quote from: Nam on June 16, 2014, 01:54:55 AM
Nice try? You brought your tits up. We didn't bring them up. We didn't say, "Hey! Welcome! What size are your tits?"
I know what you are...a tease. Yep, that's it. It's okay, though.
;-)
-Nam
On the contrary,that's what alsmost everyone did say to me when i joined.
Calm down bro,nobody is trying to fight you XD
That song is the truth btw. I like big butts, and I'm the most honest person I know.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on June 16, 2014, 01:58:00 AM
That song is the truth btw. I like big butts, and I'm the most honest person I know.
I like big butts and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a round thing in your face
;-)
-Nam
Quote from: PickelledEggs on June 16, 2014, 01:58:00 AM
That song is the truth btw. I like big butts, and I'm the most honest person I know.
Don't forget dem legs ;)
Quote from: christy starseeker on June 16, 2014, 02:07:34 AM
Don't forget dem legs ;)
I'll take legs and ass and boobs any day of the week.
(what was this thread about anyway? :lol:)
Sent from your mom.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on June 16, 2014, 02:08:57 AM
I'll take legs and ass and boobs any day of the week.
(what was this thread about anyway? :lol:)
Sent from your mom.
Some prissy Christianâ,,¢ think they can turn us from our
sinful lives and bring us to Jesus. Sadly, they didn't last very long and is probably sinning to all the sex talk.
-Nam
Quote from: Nam on June 16, 2014, 02:12:26 AM
Some prissy Christianâ,,¢ think they can turn us from our sinful lives and bring us to Jesus. Sadly, they didn't last very long and is probably sinning to all the sex talk.
-Nam
Oh ok. Yeah talking about butts and boobs is much more productive and fun.
Sent from your mom.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on June 16, 2014, 02:15:30 AM
Oh ok. Yeah talking about butts and boobs is much more productive and fun.
Sent from your mom.
Especially when it's not about mine. We're all thankful. My tits are so tiny.
-Nam
Quote from: Nam on June 16, 2014, 02:17:44 AM
Especially when it's not about mine. We're all thankful. My tits are so tiny.
-Nam
As long as they aren't man-boobs, I'm a fan.
Sent from your mom.
So um like you know what's going on with like the thread or does it like not matter anymore holy shit
Quote from: frosty on June 16, 2014, 02:39:51 AM
So um like you know what's going on with like the thread or does it like not matter anymore holy shit
Ask the Christianâ,,¢ a question and see what happens.
-Nam
Quote from: Nam on June 16, 2014, 01:54:55 AM
Nice try? You brought your tits up. We didn't bring them up. We didn't say, "Hey! Welcome! What size are your tits?"
I know what you are...a tease. Yep, that's it. It's okay, though.
;-)
-Nam
Nam, actually her boobs/nude pictures where mentioned in her introduction thread and I actually was the guilty party for that. Relax bro, OK?
Christy, I apologise if my joke made you feel uncomfortable.
Quote from: frosty on June 16, 2014, 02:39:51 AM
So um like you know what's going on with like the thread or does it like not matter anymore holy shit
Boobs are a more interesting topic than the ramblings of a Christard.
Do y'all see the wink? I am joking you retarded people.
-Nam
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:52:15 PM
Yes. How do you decide what is good or what is evil? Does the lack of an after-life frighten you?
How do you cope with death since you do not believe in an after-life?
Does lack of punishment for doing evil hinders you from doing the right thing in life?
If there is evidence that God exists beyond doubt, will you worship Him?
I find the concept of an afterlife more frightening, by far. I can be bored with a weekend of nothing to do. A month? A year? 10 years? A thousand years? A billion? PUT ME OUT OF THIS MISERY!
I know...I'm supposed to enjoy that. Ummm...no.
No punishment for doing evil? Did you READ that book? Our society punishes evil. Your religion throws the best Hindu into a lake of fire, and utterly forgives any murdering child rapist who drops to his knees the instant before he dies.
Quote from: EldonG on June 16, 2014, 10:40:53 AM
I find the concept of an afterlife more frightening, by far. I can be bored with a weekend of nothing to do. A month? A year? 10 years? A thousand years? A billion? PUT ME OUT OF THIS MISERY!
I know...I'm supposed to enjoy that. Ummm...no.
No punishment for doing evil? Did you READ that book? Our society punishes evil. Your religion throws the best Hindu into a lake of fire, and utterly forgives any murdering child rapist who drops to his knees the instant before he dies.
Some Christians say there's more to it than that but basically that's all it is. Also, who says this person already isn't a Christian?
-Nam
...oh...and there's no way I'd worship the vain child murdering genocidal fuckup that gifted mankind with such wonders as malaria and alzheimers.
There. I feel properly vented, for the moment. :)
Ok...I have a question...as an ex-christian...why is it that christians are so ignorant...even of the books they champion?
That doesn't need to be answered, actually...I get it. It's more for christian reflection that I ask.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on June 16, 2014, 10:55:39 AM
No, she was joking. When you said 'you brought up your tits' joke ended.
You are a moron. The whole time I was joking; if the stupid smiley system worked where I didn't have to copy/paste from a phone perhaps it would have been more clearer to her and the one who interjected how this started elsewhere.
I was never serious. I never made it serious, the retarded did.
-Nam
Is that you, Notary Pubic?
Quote from: christy starseeker on June 15, 2014, 11:16:23 PM
My breasts are massive,round jiggly E-cup brabusters ,
Yeesh. Your back must be killing you.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:52:15 PM
Yes. How do you decide what is good or what is evil?
Socialization, experience, empathy, sense of fairness, and reason.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:52:15 PM
Does the lack of an after-life frighten you?
No. If oblvion were frightening enough, I suppose there'd have been no need to invent the various hells to reinforce social controls. I don't think imagined afterlives are born so much of fear as the difficulty of imagining oneself not existing.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:52:15 PM
How do you cope with death since you do not believe in an after-life?
A complete narrative has a beginning, a middle, and an end. There's not much point to a story that never ends. It's that much more important that I make my life count while it lasts.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:52:15 PM
Does lack of punishment for doing evil hinders you from doing the right thing in life?
Our prisons are full of people who believe in afterlife punishment, while atheists are under represented. Fear of punishment in the next life appears to make little difference compared to being able to reason out the consequences of illegal actions in this life.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 10:52:15 PM
If there is evidence that God exists beyond doubt, will you worship Him?
There is something wrong with the very idea of a supreme being that desires worship, as though it lacks something we can give it. How powerful does a proposed being have to be before it stops being kind of pathetic that it craves attention? The God described in the Bible has the personality of a magnified oriental potentate. For that reason, if I knew he existed, I would worship him, for the same reason I would cooperate with a mugger who is holding a gun to my head. One can only hope that if there is a God, it doesn't much resemble the typical Christian idea of God.
Sooooo....
Yea.......
About some boobs....
Pics?
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 11:08:00 PM
Just like you believe you are right and I am wrong.
There's a difference between someone who believes they are right because they considered the claims and evidence, reached a conclusion that follows; and is willing to reconsider their position given new information...and you. If you review your posts, you will see that you plainly refuse to consider any new information that you think might lead you to change your mind. There's a word for beliefs that can only be maintained by shutting your eyes and holding your hands over your ears: false.
Quote from: Nam on June 14, 2014, 11:54:14 PM
Why's it always dead cats? Why not live ones?
-Nam
If you try out both, you will learn.
Quote from: christy starseeker on June 15, 2014, 11:16:23 PM
My breasts are massive,round jiggly E-cup brabusters , now i technically can't PROVE this without physical evidence but you see,if you have faith and believe they are then one day you will have a reward in marshmallow heaven. Do you accept titties as your lord and savior? :D
If you won't show them bare then how about a picture of them in a tight sweater?
I have a follow up question for our Christian visitor concerning her claim that she would be a Christian even if she was raised a Yazidi in Northern Iraq. How do you suppose that miracle would happen? If Muslims and Yazidis verifiably turned into Christians without being exposed to the religion, that actually would be evidence in Christianity's favor; but such a thing is completely unknown. Why do you think you're such a special snowflake that you would turn into a Christian no matter the circumstances when the vast majority of nonChristians never do, even after they've been exposed to Christianity's claims, let alone the ones who have only heard 'there is a religion called Christianity'. Christianity still doesn't have full market penetration. There are people who have never heard of it. Do they deserve hell? Why?
Quote from: KUSA on June 16, 2014, 12:09:56 PM
If you won't show them bare then how about a picture of them in a tight sweater?
Or a vintage t-shirt that is two sizes too small.
Well folks, it looks like Chongjasmine has done a runner from this thread.... :pidu:
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Quote from: drunkenshoe on June 16, 2014, 12:28:04 PM
She made a joke. You joined in and she said 'nice try'. That's a about the most benign thing you can come up with. If your come back to 'nice try' is 'you brought up your tits' is, you can't handle it. You are making an ass of your self in multiple threads, because apparently you have the maturity of a 15 year old. An extra smiley doesn't have the power to cover that.
All I read was "blah blah blah". I'm sorry, I don't read stupid.
-Nam
Running is a classic christian response to rationality.
anddddddddd here we go again.....
calm down. Tis all in fun. Let's not get all excited over emotions that cannot be conveyed....oy
Quote from: aitm on June 16, 2014, 12:48:37 PM
anddddddddd here we go again.....
calm down. Tis all in fun. Let's not get all excited over emotions that cannot be conveyed....oy
THERE SHALL BE NO CALM UNTILL BOOBIES ARE PRESENTED IN PICTURE FORM!!!
Ahhhh
much better
Quote from: 10 Green Bottles..... on June 16, 2014, 12:35:59 PM
Well folks, it looks like Chongjasmine has done a runner from this thread.... :pidu:
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lol Some of the longest running threads are started by seagulls that leave around page 2. People keep responding to the original post for days, then the threads turn into social meeting places and go on for another 10 pages. This thread sustains itself on a thoughtful discussion of boobs. So don't knock seagulls. There serve an important function.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 04:21:59 AM
What are you atheists most curious to ask a christian about?
Here is your chance. Ask your question. I will try my best to answer your question.
This is cute, they always walk in like they are the teacher and we are the lost puppies in need of saving.
Not curious about a thing there bud. I reject all god claims not just yours. But since you are a Christian my rejection of it is simple.
1. There is no such thing as a magical invisible super brain with a magic wand. Even before you get to the first word of that comic book.
2. Babies cannot be born without a second set of DNA, so the magic baby story of the Jesus birth is bullshit.
3. Human flesh does not survive rigor mortis, thus making the death story of Jesus bullshit too.
If other atheists here want to walk down your yellow brick road comic book, they are more than welcome to. Not me, I cut to the chase and call it what it is, a myth and a superstition written in antiquity by ignorant humans who had no clue what scientific reality was.
Quote from: Moralnihilist on June 16, 2014, 12:54:29 PM
THERE SHALL BE NO CALM UNTILL BOOBIES ARE PRESENTED IN PICTURE FORM!!!
Mmmmm...boobies...we're talking about the bird, right?
;-)
-Nam
Boobies are better than bibles, or any holy book for that matter.
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/G-QbmkGySgU/maxresdefault.jpg
Boobies. Now, back to comic books without pictures.
Anyone here want to make the obvious joke? Anyone?
Quote from: EldonG on June 16, 2014, 02:20:36 PM
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/G-QbmkGySgU/maxresdefault.jpg
Boobies. Now, back to comic books without pictures.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
I have two specialties, the obvious and the oblivious...but at least I was over my organic offspring feeding apparatus fixation before puberty. :p
Quote from: drunkenshoe on June 16, 2014, 12:56:24 PM
There you go.
(http://braexplosion.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/simply-stacked-and-stunning-in-a-tight-little-shirt.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK9odsWwfIo
Quote from: drunkenshoe on June 16, 2014, 12:56:24 PM
There you go.
(http://braexplosion.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/simply-stacked-and-stunning-in-a-tight-little-shirt.jpg)
Jesus. That's a terrible photoshop.
What the fuck is the point of an "Ask a Christian" thread if the Christian in question isn't going to show up?
Not that I'm complaining. It was a pretty transparent attempt at proselytizing.
Quote from: Mermaid on June 16, 2014, 07:37:53 PM
Jesus. That's a terrible photoshop.
LMAO I can't believe I missed that huge warp in the doorway. :rotflmao:
Quote from: PickelledEggs on June 16, 2014, 07:47:05 PM
LMAO I can't believe I missed that huge warp in the doorway. :rotflmao:
You needed a warped door to tell you that was photoshoped ?
Or it could be those big ass tits warping the fabric of space time.
Quote from: Poison Tree on June 16, 2014, 09:06:15 PM
You needed a warped door to tell you that was photoshoped ?
It helps. I don't question boobs for the most part. I've seen way too many boob-jobs both good and bad so these boobs are not necessarily unbelievable.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on June 16, 2014, 09:11:00 PM
Or it could be those big ass tits warping the fabric of space time.
Like a compact star that is about to implode.
Quote from: Brian37 on June 16, 2014, 01:33:11 PMBoobies are better than bibles, or any holy book for that matter.
Only one is essential to the human race. And only one is allowed in public. :(
Quote from: DunkleSeele on June 16, 2014, 02:48:23 AM
Nam, actually her boobs/nude pictures where mentioned in her introduction thread and I actually was the guilty party for that. Relax bro, OK?
Christy, I apologise if my joke made you feel uncomfortable.
it's ok,you didn't xD i honestly don't mind,i joke the same way with everyone else i know xD
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on June 16, 2014, 07:44:01 PM
What the fuck is the point of an "Ask a Christian" thread if the Christian in question isn't going to show up?
Not that I'm complaining. It was a pretty transparent attempt at proselytizing.
They did show up, they just got smacked down rather quickely.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 04:21:59 AM
What are you atheists most curious to ask a christian about?
Here is your chance. Ask your question. I will try my best to answer your question.
Could you please employ a different Christian to consider and answer the questions? Having read your posts, I don't think I would ask you anything.
Honestly, I'm not really interested in asking a christian anything except if they have any evidence for any of their claims. In which case if they are going to come on their forum with any actual evidence they can slap that shit right in this thread here: http://atheistforums.com/index.php?topic=44.0
Quote from: PickelledEggs on June 19, 2014, 11:50:12 PM
Honestly, I'm not really interested in asking a christian anything except if they have any evidence for any of their claims.
Enjoy emotional responses, conversion attempts, apologetic material and anecdotal "evidence". I'm sure it will be soooooo fun.
Quote from: chongjasmine on June 14, 2014, 04:21:59 AM
What are you atheists most curious to ask a christian about?
Here is your chance. Ask your question. I will try my best to answer your question.
Okay I'll ask a question. Did you know that many atheists were once Christians? lol
I doubt I'll read through this riveting thread...where you, a Christian...think you will enlighten us all, because we don't have the knowledge you have to find 'God.' Most Christians who come to atheist sites, create these arrogant threads thinking they actually are going to enligthen us heathens. <eye roll>
I have a question chongjasmine,
What do you think motivates people to make posts about women like this disgraceful one where two of the choices are limited to either sex or violence.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on June 14, 2014, 04:33:33 AM
Rosie O'Donnell, Phyllis Diller, Oprah.
Marry one, fuck one, kill one.
Go.
Quote from: Lion IRC on June 23, 2014, 02:40:28 AM
I have a question chongjasmine,
What do you think motivates people to make posts about women like this disgraceful one where two of the choices are limited to either sex or violence.
You are either trolling, cherry picking words to get a 'one-up' on people here, or are stupid. In context, what he said was a joke, I've seen him post the same thing in many threads including the 'enter the darkness' ones. Lion, I'm serious here; If you are truly as sensitive to words people say on the Internet as you make yourself out to be, you need some type of help. You are eventually going to go absolutely insane if you are bothered this easily.
Quote from: frosty on June 23, 2014, 03:11:22 AM
You are either trolling, cherry picking words to get a 'one-up' on people here, or are stupid. In context, what he said was a joke, I've seen him post the same thing in many threads including the 'enter the darkness' ones. Lion, I'm serious here; If you are truly as sensitive to words people say on the Internet as you make yourself out to be, you need some type of help. You are eventually going to go absolutely insane if you are bothered this easily.
Frosty, if you look at this troll's post history on here and other forums, you'll notice exactly the same pattern: cherry picking, baiting, trolling and then, like the shit-and-run pidgeon he is, strutting around claiming victory or, like he did at AF.org, throwing his toys out of the pram. He's a retard with a superiority complex and, frankly speaking, I'm getting sick and tired of him.
Quote from: DunkleSeele on June 23, 2014, 04:10:58 AM
Frosty, if you look at this troll's post history on here and other forums, you'll notice exactly the same pattern: cherry picking, baiting, trolling and then, like the shit-and-run pidgeon he is, strutting around claiming victory or, like he did at AF.org, throwing his toys out of the pram. He's a retard with a superiority complex and, frankly speaking, I'm getting sick and tired of him.
To be honest I had my suspicions from the first few posts he made that something wasn't right about him. He never came here for an honest discussion, he came here to chastise other people and assert his 'dominance' over them, or at least try. You would think that someone like him who has such extensive forum experience would understand that showing up as an outsider and immediately insulting an entire forum population
never goes well for anybody no matter who they are or how smart they claim to be.
Quote from: frosty on June 23, 2014, 04:29:06 AM
To be honest I had my suspicions from the first few posts he made that something wasn't right about him. He never came here for an honest discussion, he came here to chastise other people and assert his 'dominance' over them, or at least try. You would think that someone like him who has such extensive forum experience would understand that showing up as an outsider and immediately insulting an entire forum population never goes well for anybody no matter who they are or how smart they claim to be.
Never underestimate human stupidity, Frosty. Anyway, the problem has been solved now (look at his profile).
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That hammer is too technologically advanced.
<-- Being an old fart, I prefer my trusty, old one ;)
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Quote from: DunkleSeele on June 23, 2014, 04:51:55 AM
That hammer is too technologically advanced.
<-- Being an old fart, I prefer my trusty, old one ;)
That is not a hammer. That is an upside down nuclear pen nib.
Quote from: Moralnihilist on June 23, 2014, 08:40:02 AM
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I vote for Moral for the next forum monitor.