Sanders supporters, what are you doing for your plan b?

Started by PickelledEggs, April 23, 2016, 01:51:43 AM

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pr126

It is a logical conclusion that those who were indoctrinated with Critical Theory (see Frankfurt School) will vote for a communist president in the USA.

Some mentioned here the phrase "lesser of the two evils" incidentally, which is still evil.

Out of 320 million this is the best? A choice between a communist or a criminal?
Really?

Why do you hate your country so much? Hasn't Obama done enough damage already?

PickelledEggs

#77
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 27, 2016, 11:57:16 PM
USA#write erase
USA#reload
sudo yum install bettergovernmentinterface && remove church-in-state

EDIT: On a quick side note, if you are running Linux.... NEVER uninstall perl. even if it isn't updating properly and you think it's not working. Trust me, it's working better being there than if you removed it and you can't boot your computer up again. I learned that the hard way a few years ago

Poison Tree

Quote from: Draconic Aiur on April 27, 2016, 10:20:43 PM
People really need to wake up, what more by giving them what they truly deserve and find the stupidest son of a bitch we can find that will start a war which will delete a portion of our planet's habitat and people.
I'd actually prefer not to die in the next 4 to 5 years.
"Observe that noses were made to wear spectacles; and so we have spectacles. Legs were visibly instituted to be breeched, and we have breeches" Voltaire�s Candide

PickelledEggs


Baruch

Quote from: pr126 on April 28, 2016, 12:59:54 AM
It is a logical conclusion that those who were indoctrinated with Critical Theory (see Frankfurt School) will vote for a communist president in the USA.

Some mentioned here the phrase "lesser of the two evils" incidentally, which is still evil.

Out of 320 million this is the best? A choice between a communist or a criminal?
Really?

Why do you hate your country so much? Hasn't Obama done enough damage already?

Democracy was BS even in ancient Athens.  This is Sparta!
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

pr126

Quote from: Baruch on April 28, 2016, 06:44:57 AM
Democracy was BS even in ancient Athens.  This is Sparta!
Sparta? More like Idiocracy.

Nonsensei

In a true democracy every citizen would each have a vote that is weighted equally with any and all other votes. In a true democracy our options would not be artificially restricted by primaries. In a true democracy the voters would not be divided into senseless voting districts designed to empower the minority and suppress the majority. In a true democracy, our votes would not be tossed together in a state based winner take all scheme that pretends everyone voted the same when it was really 51 to 49.

The United states is an oligarchy. The people we have elected to represent us have used their power to restrict how much say we have in our own elections. We are dominated by a tiny minority of ultra powerful people who couldn't care less about us.

Clinton and Trump are both members of this tiny group. A vote for either of them is a vote for more of the same, a vote for the continuation of policies and practices that are responsible for rendering the voice of the American people irrelevant.
And on the wings of a dream so far beyond reality
All alone in desperation now the time has come
Lost inside you'll never find, lost within my own mind
Day after day this misery must go on

Baruch

Quote from: pr126 on April 28, 2016, 09:35:33 AM
Sparta? More like Idiocracy.

Ever see the gay version of 300?  Meet the Spartans?  What does England have?  Benny Hill?
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

gentle_dissident

Quote from: widdershins on April 27, 2016, 05:56:05 PM
crazy, arrogant, self-important, uncompassionate, uncaring, self-absorbed, power-hungry piece of shit Cruz
Boehner calls Cruz 'Lucifer in the flesh'
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/28/politics/john-boehner-ted-cruz-lucifer-stanford/

QuoteI have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life.

widdershins

Quote from: PickelledEggs on April 27, 2016, 06:42:59 PM
I feel like Trump would barter policy for policy. He'd approve one of their shit policies if they approve one of his. Not a fun thought.
Fuck, I never even thought of it that way.  Double penetration every time we got screwed by the hyper-right.

Quote from: gentle_dissident on April 27, 2016, 07:01:29 PM
Obama was recently interviewed on NPR. Steve Inskeep asked why he thought some people had problems with his policies. The President of the United States actually said, and I kid you not, it's because he is black. Steve was on the verge of laughter when he asked the man holding the highest office in the land if he was actually going to play the race card.Obama said he sticks by it.
But is it "playing the race card" if it's true?  They hated Clinton, but no military personnel ever spoke up to say that they wouldn't follow his orders under certain circumstances, suggesting those circumstances were a real possibility.  Nobody ever got in his face and bitched him out like Brewer did.  Congress didn't interrupt and heckle him.  It wasn't career suicide to work with him.  The Tea Party didn't change from a useless group of racists into a force to be reckoned with over night to fight him.  While they did impeach Clinton, they waited until AFTER he was elected to start talking about it.  Nobody ever accused Clinton of not being an American.  Nobody ever suggested that he was a traitor who wanted to hand our country over to Muslims.  I don't remember any talk of concentration camps for Christians about Clinton.  Nobody questioned his right to be President or demanded that he prove he had that right.

Granted, I have only seen 3 Democrat presidents in my life and I barely remember Carter, and the right has always been a little...shall we say...frantic?  But I have never in my life seen a president get this level or frequency of disrespect.  Not even close.  A minor group in the extreme right essentially sprung up overnight and took over the Republican party, a group known to have a much higher than normal level of racist components, a group which loathes this president with more veracity than I have ever seen, a group which will turn on each other in an instant if one of them so much at talks politely to the President.  I've seen Democrat Presidents before and this didn't happen.  In the beginning, Obama tried very hard to work with them, so it's not that he's unreasonable, as they claim.  And somewhere along the line the word "compromise" came to have a definition which closely resembles the definition of the word "extortion".

So, playing the race card?  Not a situation I'd use that phrase, but maybe.  But playing it unfairly?  Absolutely not.
This sentence is a lie...

TomFoolery

#86
Quote from: widdershins on April 28, 2016, 04:38:37 PM
So, playing the race card?  Not a situation I'd use that phrase, but maybe.  But playing it unfairly?  Absolutely not.

The same goes for Hillary. I'm going to get all kind of hate for saying this, but I have my flame retardant suit on, go ahead.

Anyway, I feel like the deep amount of passion people put into hating her when she isn't really that drastically different than any career politician is a bit baffling. I've looked at other explanations, such as maybe people don't like her because she is married to Bill and they hate him, or she pretends like she's somehow both from Arkansas and New York, or she thinks she's above the law with this whole server thing, or they don't like what she did as Secretary of State with Benghazi, or there's evidence of her lying and flip-flopping on issues.

Somehow I don't think any of those are truly it, because it's impossible to be an electable politician and not bend the rules, lie, make false promises, fuck up, take money from corporate America, or pretend you're someone you're not. Ask Bernie how well it's working out for him by trying to be that guy.

I only have two other explanations. She's somehow like the Nickelback of politicians and people hate her for reasons they can't put their fingers on, or they hate her because she's a woman.

Now, as to the second one, I don't think they consciously realize they hate her because she's a woman. Just like the way hiring managers don't consciously sift the resume of a guy named Jackmerius Xaahvier Washington to the bottom of the pile. It just "happens" based on preconceived biases that we're unaware of. She's not the first woman to run for president but she's the first one who has ever had a decent shot at actually getting there. People say they vote for the candidate and they have no problem with a woman president... so long as it's not her. I think Elizabeth Warren was wise not to run: her legacy will stand up much better without being completely torn apart by daring to run for president.
How can you be sure my refusal to agree with your claim a symptom of my ignorance and not yours?

Draconic Aiur

Quote from: Poison Tree on April 28, 2016, 01:24:56 AM
I'd actually prefer not to die in the next 4 to 5 years.

We are headed there anyway, why not in the next year

Hydra009

#88
Quote from: TomFoolery on April 28, 2016, 11:44:45 PM
The same goes for Hillary. I'm going to get all kind of hate for saying this, but I have my flame retardant suit on, go ahead.

Anyway, I feel like the deep amount of passion people put into hating her when she isn't really that drastically different than any career politician is a bit baffling. I've looked at other explanations, such as maybe people don't like her because she is married to Bill and they hate him, or she pretends like she's somehow both from Arkansas and New York, or she thinks she's above the law with this whole server thing, or they don't like what she did as Secretary of State with Benghazi, or there's evidence of her lying and flip-flopping on issues.

Somehow I don't think any of those are truly it, because it's impossible to be an electable politician and not bend the rules, lie, make false promises, fuck up, take money from corporate America, or pretend you're someone you're not. Ask Bernie how well it's working out for him by trying to be that guy.

I only have two other explanations. She's somehow like the Nickelback of politicians and people hate her for reasons they can't put their fingers on, or they hate her because she's a woman.
I've heard something similar from a Sarah Palin supporter back in the 2008 race.  She was big on "reading between the lines" and didn't want to accept that people disliked Palin for their stated reasons for disliking her.  Apparently, she wasn't psychologically comfortable with the answers she got and decided to invent new ones, ones that coincidentally made Palin look good and her detractors look bad.  She was serious about the "Party of Lincoln" and "Party of Jim Crow" stuff, too.  What a headcase.

Baruch

Tomfoolery - why do I hate Hillary?  All the reasons you mentioned.  That and it is proven in simulations that a civilian woman is most unstable with nuclear weapons (a male military person is the most stable).  Hillary is a known war-monger.  Sexist?  Men and women are different, and the people who ignore that are idiots.  And I think people who run for office are idiots as well.  This goes back to ancient times ... they want to be coronated, not elected ... because the plebs have BO.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.