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Started by FaithIsFilth, April 22, 2016, 11:25:01 AM

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FaithIsFilth

I was just wondering what people thought about this. Is the elimination of paper money and the implementation of microchipping the entire population going to be a good thing, or not so much? I can see a lot of good things as a result of this. It will be easier to catch criminals doing things they shouldn't be doing. When someone is going to the hospital and can't communicate, you can get all their info just by scanning their hand. People won't have to carry around car keys, house keys, etc. Those are just some of the positives I can think of. What about the negatives though? We would be losing rights.

Do you guys think the pros outweigh the cons, or do the cons outweigh the pros? Would you be ok with giving up some more of your rights if overall this is beneficial to society?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eob532iEpqk

Baruch

Human beings don't like to think for themselves.  They should be chipped, just like pets.  And kenneled.  No need for housing.  Feed them dog food too.  Most humans would benefit from being "fixed".

In a world where humans are just another annoying animal, there is no reason to treat them any different.  I am not saying religion is counter to this ... we could worship Dog, and treat people the same as we do dogs.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.


Shukhov

#3
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on April 22, 2016, 11:25:01 AM
Would you be ok with giving up some more of your rights if overall this is beneficial to society?

No. Enough rights have been stripped from individuals in name of "security" to even contemplate such thing. I'm not willing to trade my freedom for someone comfort.

It's something else but look on the "war on drugs", allegedly waged for the good of society. Gov took away right to use certain substances and now persecute people whose only fault is using something deemed bad by self appointed guardians of the order. Apparently Volenti non fit iniuria isn't way to go any longer.
"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it".

George Santayana.

"The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth".

Mikhail Bakunin.

Baruch

The Clintons are from France:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcR7LgBVTNE

Our fearless leaders will only be chipped by potato ... not with silly-con.  The Bush-u-lacs are similar, hence former President Pretzel Head ... suggesting we celebrate 9/11 with "mass consumption".  They hate us for our grupnacks.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Blackleaf

Criminals would find a way around it. They always do. The chip would just drive the evolution of crime to the next stage.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Sal1981

Better have it in a phone. I have ... issues of having a foreign body like a RFID chip in me.

But I bet Christians will have their panties in a bunch with calls of the "Number of the Beast" or some shit about a RFID chip.

Baruch

Quote from: Blackleaf on April 23, 2016, 12:13:52 PM
Criminals would find a way around it. They always do. The chip would just drive the evolution of crime to the next stage.

Tell me how to tell the difference between citizen criminals and citizen politicians?  I can't tell the difference.  Yes, drive evolution to the next stage ... where my energy sphere containing my disembodied mind, fights it out with your energy sphere.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Blackleaf

Quote from: Baruch on April 23, 2016, 02:23:09 PM
Tell me how to tell the difference between citizen criminals and citizen politicians?  I can't tell the difference.  Yes, drive evolution to the next stage ... where my energy sphere containing my disembodied mind, fights it out with your energy sphere.

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"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Johan

Quote from: FaithIsFilth on April 22, 2016, 11:25:01 AM
Do you guys think the pros outweigh the cons, or do the cons outweigh the pros? Would you be ok with giving up some more of your rights if overall this is beneficial to society?
Other than fast food lunches and occasional convenience store purchases, just about everything I buy now is trackable by someone. What rights would I be giving up that I haven't already?
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false and by the rulers as useful

Baruch

#10
Quote from: Johan on April 23, 2016, 03:07:52 PM
Other than fast food lunches and occasional convenience store purchases, just about everything I buy now is trackable by someone. What rights would I be giving up that I haven't already?

America post-racism ... next time there will be no free state to flee to, and everyone will have to pick cotton under the lash!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j47NWDB_xo0

Give up if you must, Uncle Tom ;-(
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

FaithIsFilth

Quote from: Johan on April 23, 2016, 03:07:52 PM
Other than fast food lunches and occasional convenience store purchases, just about everything I buy now is trackable by someone. What rights would I be giving up that I haven't already?
They will be able to track you 24/7. See every place you've been. See where you are at every moment of every day. Things are not like this yet. Police can keep an eye on certain targeted people now, but with this they'll be able to know everyone's whereabouts at all times. Even with the Patriot Act and things like that, people still have a little bit of privacy left. You will have far less privacy after this is implemented. This grows the police state in a big way.

Johan

If some agency of the gob'ment wanted to know my whereabouts 24/7, they could very easily do that right now. So again, what right would I be giving up?
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false and by the rulers as useful


aitm

I would not mind the chip if the guv'ment was of random picks so that we could avoid the control of corps and billionaires.

Say, on June 1 of the election year, anyone who wanted to have a particular office showed up at a county place "x" where they dropped their name on a piece of paper into a big ole basket, and no name could go in without it being verified and with everyone watching.  Then the big ole basket spun around and a random two-year old picked a name and then that name went to the state along with the other county names and again in front of everyone the names were verified and dropped in a basket and a random 2 year old picked a name and Voila we have a rep who is making more than they ever did before and they have the opportunity to  a total of 8 years in the seat unless there is a 33% call for a revote in which the shit starts all over again.

The idea is that ole joe the barber or sam the bus driver would make a better rep than millionaires and they would actually care about the job because they only normally make 50 grand a year as opposed to 174,000 a year so they want to do a good job to get the entire 8 years of good money.


You have a guv'ment where the power cannot shift as it does not exist  and maintaining a paid for government becomes a little more difficult.

At least, that how I envision it.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust