"I wouldn't date a ___"

[AllPurposeAtheist]

HEY! Stop calling them MRA's.. My initials are MRA.. Come to think about it,  both MRA's and SJW's seem a bit silly.. Male Rights Advocates?  Since when have men needed anyone to advocate for their rights vs women?..and social justice warrior?  I guess that really depends on whose justice we're talking about.. I don't even like the way the word warrior is used anymore.. Wounded warrior?  What a load of crap. If a nation goes to war the government of the nation owes its soldiers a level of medical care commensurate to the damage the war caused to the soldier.
Anyway..language is getting more and more perverted by the day..

[Nonsensei]

HEY! Stop calling them MRA's.. My initials are MRA.. Come to think about it,  both MRA's and SJW's seem a bit silly.. Male Rights Advocates?  Since when have men needed anyone to advocate for their rights vs women?..and social justice warrior?  I guess that really depends on whose justice we're talking about.. I don't even like the way the word warrior is used anymore.. Wounded warrior?  What a load of crap. If a nation goes to war the government of the nation owes its soldiers a level of medical care commensurate to the damage the war caused to the soldier.
Anyway..language is getting more and more perverted by the day..

MRA's are focused on the admittedly few but very real aspects of society that blatantly disfavor men. For example, the utter inability for men to win a custody battle as long as the mother is in the picture. He could be a multimillionaire and she could be recovering from a heroine addiction and she would still win unless she did something like shoot up during a hearing.

SJW is a derogatory term. SJW isn't something you seriously call yourself, its something people accuse you of being. Its supposed to be sarcastic. For me it evokes images of someone in full battle armor sitting behind their keyboard typing furiously and foaming at the mouth.

[mauricio]

I would argue that MRAs are in a sense SJWs...

Thats like saying feminists are SJW, there some smart MRA with good arguments about paternal surrender, male fertility control, divorce court bias and refutation of feminist failures like the duluth model of domestic violence and they support this without getting into a bullshit gender war. Obviously there are indeed people from the manosphere which are pretty much the opposite side of a typical SJW.

[mauricio]

MRA's are focused on the admittedly few but very real aspects of society that blatantly disfavor men. For example, the utter inability for men to win a custody battle as long as the mother is in the picture. He could be a multimillionaire and she could be recovering from a heroine addiction and she would still win unless she did something like shoot up during a hearing.

SJW is a derogatory term. SJW isn't something you seriously call yourself, its something people accuse you of being. Its supposed to be sarcastic. For me it evokes images of someone in full battle armor sitting behind their keyboard typing furiously and foaming at the mouth.

Some SJW unironically call themselves like that. And i hear the term originated on tumblr and 4chan took it and made it into a meme to mock tumblrites.

[mauricio]

Thats like saying feminists are SJW, there some smart MRA with good arguments about paternal surrender, male fertility control, divorce court bias and refutation of feminist failures like the duluth model of domestic violence and they support this without getting into a bullshit gender war. Obviously there are indeed people from the manosphere which are pretty much the opposite side of a typical SJW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI7jIvncjnU

[drunkenshoe]

For me it evokes images of someone in full battle armor sitting behind their keyboard typing furiously and foaming at the mouth.

You are also describing MRAs and many people who are against SJWs as it is demonstrated often even in this forum which is a little group.

For example, the utter inability for men to win a custody battle as long as the mother is in the picture. He could be a multimillionaire and she could be recovering from a heroine addiction and she would still win unless she did something like shoot up during a hearing.

You realise that is an extremely exaggerrated picture and a gross expression, right? It gives the exact sensational SJW-MRA site taste. It's pretty much like SJWs "all men are rapists" or MRAs "all college rape allegetaions are regretted one stands" slogans. It's not real. It's designed to elicit emotional response.

MRA's are focused on the admittedly few but very real aspects of society that blatantly disfavor men.

You want to believe that? Male issues existed the same way before MRAs. MRAs didn't. None of the men cared about any of them, before SJWs annoyed them. MRAs were not born from the need for solving male issues and supporting male rights. They are men annoyed and want to counter SJWs.

MRAs are exactly like SJWs. (With one difference) Because that's why they are born, reacting/interacting/competing and fighting with. All their time is put in a rat race against SJW as they do the same. Both groups are spending their times trying to agitate people and put each others nose out of the joint. MRAs are not something different or real like you want to believe. Their pages have the same designs trying to provoke sensational bullshit. (But I have to say MRAs could use a better taste. Thier sites like the old bad commercial pages of the 90s internet) MRAs most famous deed is to spread "how The Justice Department of the United  States of America and every criminology rape research is conspiring against Amercian males with its college rape reports, because college rape in the US is not just very rare, but also all rape allegations are regretted one stands". A lot of bullshit of the sort. Like SJWs calling all men rapists. They are making blogs, vlogs and websites with big flashy pictures designed to provoke emotional response and writing sensational stories with huge fonts and gross hyperbolic language.

The difference is MRAs RELY on SJWs, SJWs didn't/don't. If SJWs disappeared from the face of the earth over a night, there wouldn't be any MRAs left after 6 months time. It's a vendetta, not a fight for equality or injustice or men's rights. It's a sub reactive movement to a sub reactive movement.


IF MRAs were fighting for something real, if they actually gave a damn about men's rights, they would have already been an organised structure standing long ago and they wouldn't need to operate with the angry teenage language, sensational bullshit. Everything about them would be different. They would be something else. Something independent, born out of need.


The people you defined as MRAs are not MRAs -I am sure some MRAs joined them recently and that they are using it- but they are mostly made up a group of people -men and women who actually have an idea of a real life out of colleges and one nights stands- who have been working on injustice in male-female custody or any divorced cases looong before MRAs-SJWs even existed. And they will highly likley continue to do so after MRAS and SWJs are long gone.

[Nonsensei]

Shoe your "Everything you said is wrong" approach to posting is really something. I don't think I've ever seen anyone say anything that was right when arguing with you. How do you know so much?!

[mauricio]

You are also describing MRAs and many people who are against SJWs as it is demonstrated often even in this forum which is a little group.

You realise that is an extremely exaggerrated picture and a gross expression, right? It gives the exact sensational SJW-MRA site taste. It's pretty much like SJWs "all men are rapists" or MRAs "all college rape allegetaions are regretted one stands" slogans. It's not real. It's designed to elicit emotional response.

You want to believe that? Male issues existed the same way before MRAs. MRAs didn't. None of the men cared about any of them, before SJWs annoyed them. MRAs were not born from the need for solving male issues and supporting male rights. They are men annoyed and want to counter SJWs.

MRAs are exactly like SJWs. (With one difference) Because that's why they are born, reacting/interacting/competing and fighting with. All their time is put in a rat race against SJW as they do the same. Both groups are spending their times trying to agitate people and put each others nose out of the joint. MRAs are not something different or real like you want to believe. Their pages have the same designs trying to provoke sensational bullshit. (But I have to say MRAs could use a better taste. Thier sites like the old bad commercial pages of the 90s internet) MRAs most famous deed is to spread "how The Justice Department of the United  States of America and every criminology rape research is conspiring against Amercian males with its college rape reports, because college rape in the US is not just very rare, but also all rape allegations are regretted one stands". A lot of bullshit of the sort. Like SJWs calling all men rapists. They are making blogs, vlogs and websites with big flashy pictures designed to provoke emotional response and writing sensational stories with huge fonts and gross hyperbolic language.

The difference is MRAs RELY on SJWs, SJWs didn't/don't. If SJWs disappeared from the face of the earth over a night, there wouldn't be any MRAs left after 6 months time. It's a vendetta, not a fight for equality or injustice or men's rights. It's a sub reactive movement to a sub reactive movement.


IF MRAs were fighting for something real, if they actually gave a damn about men's rights, they would have already been an organised structure standing long ago and they wouldn't need to operate with the angry teenage language, sensational bullshit. Everything about them would be different. They would be something else. Something independent, born out of need.


The people you defined as MRAs are not MRAs -I am sure some MRAs joined them recently and that they are using it- but they are mostly made up a group of people -men and women who actually have an idea of a real life out of colleges and one nights stands- who have been working on injustice in male-female custody or any divorced cases looong before MRAs-SJWs even existed. And they will highly likley continue to do so after MRAS and SWJs are long gone.

Hillarious how you treat MRAs in the way you alledge i treat feminists as if I thought all feminists were feminazi SJWs no matter how many times i have explained my actual point of view. You could cover a football field with that amount of projection.

[mauricio]

Also i posted a video of the MRA francis roy, if you could critique that we would have something more worthwhile to discuss than calling a spade spade by pointing out the retardness of the gender warriors on both sides.

[drunkenshoe]

Shoe your "Everything you said is wrong" approach to posting is really something. I don't think I've ever seen anyone say anything that was right when arguing with you. How do you know so much?!

I gave you a reasoning about MRAs situation related to the circumstances they came to be. Which is perfectly accurate and not something I made up myself. And you are throwing me a cheap strawman: "you are telling me that everything I said is wrong and you don't say anyone that they are right anyway"?

At this point it is hard to guess that if you snapped at me because what I said above made actually sense to you causing great annoyance or you are just so annoyed by me anyway that it really doesn't matter what I say at all.

This is a public forum. People post what they think. That's what I did up there.

E: By the way, I just realised you said that to me after I agreed with you twice in one post in the same day. 

[mauricio]

I gave you a reasoning about MRAs situation related to the circumstances they came to be. Which is perfectly accurate and not something I made up myself.

Accurate? Don't make me laugh you just have a distorted picture from social media. Everything you post proves you cannot talk about men's issues you are just an angry kid lashing out at internet celebrities as commanded by your chosen internet idols.

What did men ever do to you that made you so angry?

[AllRight]

My current partner is religious which is fine by me since I was also when we first got together, but if ever single again I would prefer someone non religious and open to other possibilities than the little bubble they were raised in. I have much more intellectually stimulating conversations with friends of mine who are not religious.

[Baruch]

My current partner is religious which is fine by me since I was also when we first got together, but if ever single again I would prefer someone non religious and open to other possibilities than the little bubble they were raised in. I have much more intellectually stimulating conversations with friends of mine who are not religious.

Anyone can be boring after you have heard "Who let the dogs out" is the only music they listen to ... fanatics don't keep fans for long.  Unfortunately too many religious people are fanatics.  There is a lot of diversity among non-religious people.

[aitm]

My current partner is religious which is fine by me since I was also when we first got together, but if ever single again I would prefer someone non religious and open to other possibilities than the little bubble they were raised in. I have much more intellectually stimulating conversations with friends of mine who are not religious.

My wife is as religious as the circumstances dictate. When life is great and we are on the boat or at the nice restaurant people that follow gods are somewhat stupid,  but the second the grandkid gets sick the skepticism kinda sinks into the mud.

[PickelledEggs]

Thats like saying feminists are SJW

Correct. Feminists are SJWs also.