"I wouldn't date a ___"

[PickelledEggs]

HEY! Stop calling them MRA's.. My initials are MRA.. Come to think about it,  both MRA's and SJW's seem a bit silly.. Male Rights Advocates?  Since when have men needed anyone to advocate for their rights vs women?..and social justice warrior?  I guess that really depends on whose justice we're talking about.. I don't even like the way the word warrior is used anymore.. Wounded warrior?  What a load of crap. If a nation goes to war the government of the nation owes its soldiers a level of medical care commensurate to the damage the war caused to the soldier.
Anyway..language is getting more and more perverted by the day..

Everyone knows your initials are APA....


I kind of feel like Social Justice Warrior is a sarcastic term. At least that is the way I use it. Kind of like how Bugs Bunny called Elmer Fudd "Nimrod"

Elmer Fudd was referred to Nimrod, the "heroic leader/hunter" from the bible, when in reality he was a bumbling fool. Similarly, we call many people Social Justice Warriors.

[mauricio]

Correct. Feminists are SJWs also.

In the english language is it implied that when you say "x are y" that all "x are y"? That always confuses me a bit. When I say x are/do/believe y. I hope people understand that the x's im talking about are only the ones that are/do/believe y. At least thats the way it makes the most sense because of how language and people work. For example christians believe in the young earth, but not all christians believe in the young earth. Having to disclaim im not talking about every single christian every time sounds silly considering how many variations of christianity there are it should already be assumed by reasonable people that hardly any given believe will apply to all of them. Maybe on a superficial way it may, like they will all say they believe in the teachings of the bible or jesus is real, but those statements could mean extremely different things for different believers depending on their interpretation of the bible and their conception of god and jesus.

Saying that ALL feminists are SJW renders the term useless, the term is there to differentiate between reasonable advocates of social justice and those that take it to irrational levels even to the point of betraying their spoused principles. Feminists are individuals who indentify as such and subscribe to certain ideas with a degree of overlap with each other, a subgroup of them subcribe to the SJW ideas and behave in their nasty way.

[PickelledEggs]

"No true sjw"...

Mauricio...  X is not y. I would not use that as a metaphor you used for what we're talking about. "X and you are both letters" is a much closer metaphor.
Feminists, MRAs, etc.... All sjws. They fight for their own cause.

If you can't figure that out, be resourceful and look up what an sjw is so you can have a starting point with what you are identifying with it and what you're disconnecting from it. I would for you, but it's 3:30 am and I'm going to sleep.

Good luck with.... whatever your having trouble understanding.

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[mauricio]

"No true sjw"...

Mauricio...  X is not y. I would not use that as a metaphor you used for what we're talking about. "X and you are both letters" is a much closer metaphor.
Feminists, MRAs, etc.... All sjws. They fight for their own cause.

If you can't figure that out, be resourceful and look up what an sjw is so you can have a starting point with what you are identifying with it and what you're disconnecting from it. I would for you, but it's 3:30 am and I'm going to sleep.

Good luck with.... whatever your having trouble understanding.

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X are Y can be anything like: hotdogs are tasty or crystals are shiny. I did not mean that "noun" is "noun". I do not think you are using the term SJW in a commonly used way. I browse lots of places where it is used regulary and i have not seen people use it to mean all feminists and MRA's. SJW does not mean anyone who fights for a cause related to gender or social justice. It means a particular type of individual who does it with zealotry, irrationality, narcissim, agressiveness, superficiality, dogmatically, dishonestly.

[PickelledEggs]

Forget the stupid "x and y" metaphor and learn an exact definition of sjw.

Feminists are sjws. MRAs are sjws. Practically anyone that is voicing their opinion like it should have importance and like it should make a change (wether the opinion actually should or not) is an sjw.

Hell. Technically the kkk are sjws. Sometimes certain groups of people and their flavor of justice isn't a very good or effective flavor though in the sense of making the world a better place.



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[mauricio]

Forget the stupid "x and y" metaphor and learn an exact definition of sjw.

Feminists are sjws. MRAs are sjws. Practically anyone that is voicing their opinion like it should have importance and like it should make a change (wether the opinion actually should or not) is an sjw.

Hell. Technically the kkk are sjws. Sometimes certain groups of people and their flavor of justice isn't a very good or effective flavor though in the sense of making the world a better place.



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There's no exact definition of sjw it is not like a scientific term with an specific operative definition. The way you are using it differs with the common usages i have observed in the websites where it is commonly used which are the only places where we can investigate to reliably describe its usage. The term is dilluting rapidly which happens often with pejorative labels. But the social justice part is important the kkk are directly and explicitly opposed to that concept, so calling them sjw is silly. Also they do not use the rhetoric commonly associated with sjws. Though you could argue that they share characteristics.

[Nonsensei]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Justice_Warrior

"Social Justice Warrior", commonly abbreviated as "SJW", is a pejorative term for a person expressing or promoting socially progressive views, particularly relating to social liberalism, political correctness or feminism.

In August 2015, the derogatory noun Social Justice Warrior was one of several new words and phrases added to Oxford Dictionaries.

There IS an exact definition, it IS a derogatory term, and it DOES refer to feminists.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I would never date a retired chief petty officer.


(I know they're pervs.)

[mauricio]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Justice_Warrior

There IS an exact definition, it IS a derogatory term, and it DOES refer to feminists.

That definition kinda lacks the explanation for why it is pejorative, but since that part is subjective, because some people might differ on what kind of social activist qualifies as an actual SJW its fine i guess, but it gives the wrong idea that the term is used to oppose social justice activist in general when it usually is reserved for specific shitheads within those movements.

[Atheon]

Saying that ALL feminists are SJW renders the term useless, the term is there to differentiate between reasonable advocates of social justice and those that take it to irrational levels even to the point of betraying their spoused principles. Feminists are individuals who indentify as such and subscribe to certain ideas with a degree of overlap with each other, a subgroup of them subcribe to the SJW ideas and behave in their nasty way.

I agree. Indeed, I, a male liberal, have long identified as a feminist because I subscribe to the philosophy (learned since childhood) that feminism is the idea that women and men are equals.

At the same time, I am disgusted by the extremists in the feminist movement (e.g. those who claim that all men are automatically rapists and other such nonsense). I call them SJWs, whereas I oppose their tactics, their untenable and often extreme and nonsensical beliefs, and their cult-like mentality (even though I believe that social justice is a worthy cause in itself).

[Mike Cl]

I would never date a retired chief petty officer.


(I know they're pervs.)

How about a CPO that was not retired????

[Gawdzilla Sama]

How about a CPO that was not retired????

They're preverts.

[Mike Cl]

They're preverts.

is that in the Dr. Strangeglove sense?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

is that in the Dr. Strangeglove sense?

Preverts are just learning.
Perverts are at least competent.
Proverts teach at the college level.

[JBCuzISaidSo]

I never get why people say they wouldn't date someone from a different word view pertaining to religion, I would never date a fundamentalist or a homophobic or transphobic person, or a racist person, but someone believing in something when I don't believe in it, even if I find it to be fucking stupid, is such a small part of who they are, anyone who says they refuse to date a christian in any situation is a fucking moron.
I used to be this way, but I opened my eyes and realized how much of a fucking idiot I was.
The only exception to this would be if you were someone like hitchens, and you know that it would interfere with the relationship.

No, pretty much, go ahead and fuck off. I wouldn't date a Christian. Because what they believe in, that we somehow live on after death even though my favorite flower, lilacs, don't have a "soul", or my least favorite flower, poison sumac, does not have a "soul" that lives on after those bastards die.....what a stupid fucking argument?

YOU, somehow, live on, and me being a non-Christian, I die off but still there's YOU. Somehow. Hanging on. After you're dead.

Good luck to ya! We can't date, though, because you're an idiot.