Dr. Ruth: being naked with a man is like playing in traffic.

Started by Valigarmander, June 10, 2015, 05:16:06 PM

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Solitary

So the real question is what constitutes rape in the eyes of Law who his blind. We all agree, I thought, that it is wrong to keep having sex with a woman if she says stop, but is it really rape if he doesn't right in the middle of it? Why is this debate so emotionally charged? There are a lot of reasons why women say no, and some are just because they want to punish men for whatever reason too. Why is this being ignored and assuming it is only men that are being jerks every time? There are some really nasty women out there too, not just men.
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Quote...but is it really rape if he doesn't right in the middle of it?

Yes. Sex without consent is rape.

QuoteWhy is this debate so emotionally charged?

Why is rape emotionally charged... let me think about that one for a second and get back to you.

QuoteThere are a lot of reasons why women say no, and some are just because they want to punish men for whatever reason too. Why is this being ignored...

Because just because a woman hurt your feelings doesn't mean you can rape her. If anything it shouldn't be ignored simply because that is fucking terrifying that anyone would think that a woman "punishing a man" therefor means rape is justified.

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Quote from: Solitary on June 17, 2015, 09:51:07 PMThere are a lot of reasons why women say no, and some are just because they want to punish men for whatever reason too.
I don't think anyone here is claiming that a man can magically teleport his dick out of the woman's vagina the exact instant she says to stop. Obviously he needs a couple seconds to process what's going on and extract himself. No one in their right mind would ever dispute that, and any woman who tries to call those couple seconds "rape" is clearly making a false accusation.
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drunkenshoe

Quote from: Solitary on June 17, 2015, 09:51:07 PM
There are a lot of reasons why women say no, and some are just because they want to punish men for whatever reason too.

How does this even come up with rape issue? Doesn't matter WHY women -or men- say NO or draw their once given consent during sex. CONSENT is NOT ABOUT WHY. There is NO such thing as 'Oh your reasons are not valid for me, so I don't need to stop and that's not rape. Doesn't matter why.

Bringing up some imaginary circumstance while discussing consent during sex is just making excuses for rape, doesn't matter if you are aware of it or not. It's like saying 'but what if she was drunk', or 'but what if she was wearing a super mini skirt and very deep cleavage', 'what if she was a 'cock teaser' '. These are all the same things. It's about blaming the female in one way or another.











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Quote from: Solitary on June 17, 2015, 09:51:07 PM
We all agree, I thought, that it is wrong to keep having sex with a woman if she says stop, but is it really rape if he doesn't right in the middle of it?
Yes.

QuoteThere are a lot of reasons why women say no, and some are just because they want to punish men for whatever reason too.
And how exactly would that make it not rape?
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Quote from: Mike Cl on June 10, 2015, 10:13:39 PM
I have to side with the females in this one.  If either partner wants to stop, even in the middle, they should be allowed to do so.  Even if they are married. 

Yup. Let's face it.... how often does this happen?  Very rarely.  I'm sure we can stop on the rare occasion it may be required, even if we decamp to the bathroom and finish the job ourselves.  It's the 21st century.

No reason a guy shouldn't play the same game if he thinks he's been trolled.  Go down with the tongue tornado in full deployment, get her warmed up and then say, "Nah, I've changed my mind" and get back on the Xbox.   :72:

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