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Started by gracedwithlife, December 25, 2013, 02:30:15 AM

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gracedwithlife

Quote from: "wolf39us"Are you assuming that Atheists make an assumption inherently because they are Atheists?
Whatever reason they assume this, the assumption is false.

SGOS

Quote from: "gracedwithlife"
Quote from: "wolf39us"How convenient.  Everything comes from something, except God... He is uncaused.

And how to we go about proving this wild assumption?
Start from the point of evidence what you observe.

You observe nature. In nature you see cause and effect. If there was an infinite regress of cause and effect, you would have happened already, having had an eternity to do so, so nature needs a cause outside itself, outside of time and space being uncreated.
Your argument seems to be stuck at this point.

gracedwithlife

Quote from: "SGOS"
Quote from: "gracedwithlife"
Quote from: "wolf39us"How convenient.  Everything comes from something, except God... He is uncaused.

And how to we go about proving this wild assumption?
Start from the point of evidence what you observe.

You observe nature. In nature you see cause and effect. If there was an infinite regress of cause and effect, you would have happened already, having had an eternity to do so, so nature needs a cause outside itself, outside of time and space being uncreated.
Your argument seems to be stuck at this point.
Why would a perfect proof be stuck?

Hakurei Reimu

Quote from: "gracedwithlife"The fact remains, infinite regress is impossible.
This is a bald faced assertion. Prove it, then you get to call it a "fact."
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Plu

QuoteWhy would a perfect proof be stuck?

It wouldn't. Since yours is, there's only one reasonable conclusion left to be made.

gracedwithlife

Quote from: "Hakurei Reimu"
Quote from: "gracedwithlife"The fact remains, infinite regress is impossible.
This is a bald faced assertion. Prove it, then you get to call it a "fact."
It's a proven fact...

If infinite regress were true, you would have already happened having an eternity to do so, so nature needs a cause outside itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated.

Plu

This post of his seems to happening time and time again, contradicting his proof.

gracedwithlife

Quote from: "Plu"This post of his seems to happening time and time again, contradicting his proof.
Contradicting how?

Plu

The joke.
Your head.

gracedwithlife

Quote from: "Plu"The joke.
Your head.
I don't understand?

Plu

I'm detecting a theme.

gracedwithlife

Quote from: "Plu"I'm detecting a theme.
Do tell.

Plu

I could, but then you'd say:

Quote from: "gracedwithlife"I don't understand?

Anyway. Gotta go, stuff to do :P

Hakurei Reimu

Quote from: "gracedwithlife"
Quote from: "Hakurei Reimu"
Quote from: "gracedwithlife"The fact remains, infinite regress is impossible.
This is a bald faced assertion. Prove it, then you get to call it a "fact."
It's a proven fact...

If infinite regress were true, you would have already happened having an eternity to do so,
Non sequitor.
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Quote from: "gracedwithlife"Shutting your mind down to what is clearly proven is hate.
Since nothing you claim is clearly proven, I guess we're safe.

Quote from: "gracedwithlife"That's just a bunch of vague talk. The fact remains, infinite regress is impossible. So nature needs a cause outside of itself.
Nothing any of us have said requires infinite regress to work. And before you say, "Yes it does," please go look up how space-time works.
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