Aliens

[aitm]

Even if there were aliens which there is not

even if there is a god, which there is not

interesting how one would demand proof while the other not....hmmmm

[_Xenu_]

Given the vastness of the universe, I wouldn't be shocked if there were other civilizations out there asking the same questions we do. Actually running across them in this enormous galaxy is another matter entirely.

Having said that, the very fact that our latest troll tries to put god 'outside' nature just proves how little he understands.

[mykcob4]

Human beings will never reach another solar system. Even at the speed of light it would take thousands of years. Even if there were aliens which there is not they could never reach our solar system anyhow.

 Aliens are only good for crazy people and makes for good movies.

 And all this talk of bending space to get to the other side is just silly nonsense.

 So every time you see someone talking about aliens, realize they are quacks and turn the channel.

Blah blah blah....the earth is flat and if you sail to the end you will fall off. Yeah, we've heard it all before. There is no reason to try and explore or conduct scientific experiments, because there is this crazy homeless old man directing everything. What a bunch of horseshit. I guess since Einstien has been right about just about everything, that bending space isn't possible.
Forgive me if I believe one of the world's greatest minds over yours.

[Sal1981]

http://biblocality.com/forums/showthrea ... l-There-Is

copy&paste from another forum. Do you even have any original thought?

[josephpalazzo]

http://biblocality.com/forums/showthread.php?5391-For-Humans-this-Solar-System-is-All-There-Is

copy&paste from another forum. Do you even have any original thought?

From a website that announces:

Only spiritual believers return with Christ (Jude 14,15) to reign "over the nations" (Rev. 2.26,27) 1000 years. "Carnal, babes in Christ" (1 Cor. 3.1) though saved do not receive this reward.

 

[leo]

Human beings will never reach another solar system. Even at the speed of light it would take thousands of years. Even if there were aliens which there is not they could never reach our solar system anyhow.

 Aliens are only good for crazy people and makes for good movies.

 And all this talk of bending space to get to the other side is just silly nonsense.

 So every time you see someone talking about aliens, realize they are quacks and turn the channel.

According to Eve we were created by alien (gods).

[leo]

Human beings will never reach Heaven. Even at the speed of light it would take thousands of years. Even if there were gods which there is not they could never reach our solar system anyhow.

You're going the wrong direction. As Jesus was able to depart from this realm to the next instantly, so will all those who are raptured. Since Jesus proved His resurrection and rapture, this is what He has in store for us even the unsaved. Then He returns with His overcomers to reign on earth for 1000 years.

Dude you are crazy ! You need your head checked.    :rollin:

[gracedwithlife]

According to Eve we were created by alien (gods).

That's good to hear you believe in Adam and Eve.

But the Bible teaches one God the uncreated Creator, since if infinite regress were true of gods creating gods, you would have happened already, having had an eternity to do so, so nature needs a cause outside itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated.

[Hakurei Reimu]

According to Eve we were created by alien (gods).

That's good to hear you believe in Adam and Eve.

leo meant the former Atheist Forums member Eve, you boob.

But the Bible teaches one God the uncreated Creator, since if infinite regress were true of gods creating gods, you would have happened already, having had an eternity to do so, so nature needs a cause outside itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated.

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat this line, it's still not correct.

[gracedwithlife]

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat this line, it's still not correct.

Why is it not correct?

If infinite regress were true you would have happened already, having had an eternity to do so, so nature needs a cause outside itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated.

[Hakurei Reimu]

Because you don't understand that an infinite sequence into the past has no beginning at all, so there's no point which you can definitively say that I or anyone else ought to "have already happened." There is an eternity prior to every point in a universe with an infinite past, so your argument, if it were true, would apply to that point as well, and I "would have happened already" even at that prior point. Every point I could happen would therefore be disqualified. But I obviously do exist, so something must be wrong.

The error here is believing that an eternal past would have a first point, such that you are talking about real durations of time between that first point and me already having happened in an infinitely distant past. Sorry, chum, but that is exactly what is denied in the hypothesis of a universe with an infinite past.

From my perspective I can only happen now, not in the past, and not in the future.

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Hugh Ross determined there are 800 variables to take into account and when multiplied together there are not enough planets to make it even close. So this is the only planet with life on it. The entire design is for earth and Mars as the New Earth and has that great high mountain Olympus in Revelation John viewed the New City from (which is 1379 x 1379 miles in Rev. 21), for the Bible says earth will be burnt up one day without the sea. That agrees with the fact the sun will continue to expand and make earth unlivable.

You do realize that the Universe is really really really big?  Do you know how many stars are in the Sloan Great Wall?

[gracedwithlife]

an infinite sequence into the past has no beginning at all, so there's no point which you can definitively say that I or anyone else ought to "have already happened."

You don't need to know exactly when in the past you would "have already happened" only that you would have happened having had an eternity to do so; therefore, nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated.

There is an eternity prior to every point in a universe with an infinite past, so your argument, if it were true, would apply to that point as well, and I "would have happened already" even at that prior point. Every point I could happen would therefore be disqualified. But I obviously do exist, so something must be wrong.

Your "...would therefore be disqualified" does not follow from "Every point I could happen..." There is indeed something wrong, because obviously you do exist now when you should have already happened, having had an eternity to do so if infinite regress was true.

The error here is believing that an eternal past would have a first point, such that you are talking about real durations of time between that first point and me already having happened in an infinitely distant past. Sorry, chum, but that is exactly what is denied in the hypothesis of a universe with an infinite past.

From my perspective I can only happen now, not in the past, and not in the future.

I am not "believing that an eternal past would have a first point."

The problem remains. Infinite regress cannot be true, because if it were true, you would have happened already, having had an eternity to do so, so nature needs a cause outside itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated.

Therefore do accept this despite your sensibilities that often lead one astray because they are indwelt by agenda of rejecting the love of God.

[gracedwithlife]

Hugh Ross determined there are 800 variables to take into account and when multiplied together there are not enough planets to make it even close. So this is the only planet with life on it. The entire design is for earth and Mars as the New Earth and has that great high mountain Olympus in Revelation John viewed the New City from (which is 1379 x 1379 miles in Rev. 21), for the Bible says earth will be burnt up one day without the sea. That agrees with the fact the sun will continue to expand and make earth unlivable.

You do realize that the Universe is really really really big?  Do you know how many stars are in the Sloan Great Wall?

Yes of course, Hugh Ross took that into account.

[gracedwithlife]

I just watched a documentary last night on the universe and they said Jupiter is so large that if it got any larger it would have itself turned into a star. But what it does do is shield earth from lots of asteroids that without it life on earth would not exist.