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Started by Solitary, November 10, 2013, 10:33:57 AM

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Solitary

[youtube:mllflbz8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zahYUpDgfWs[/youtube:mllflbz8]



 [youtube:mllflbz8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAPokxi_VRg[/youtube:mllflbz8]



 [youtube:mllflbz8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roh2vIM_EAA[/youtube:mllflbz8]

I sang this song to my wife when we got engaged.

[youtube:mllflbz8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4HPFAds7bc[/youtube:mllflbz8]

And we call this music Now. :roll:  Solitary
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stromboli

This may actually count as regression, similar to the methods by which the old bards of Scandinavia passed on their sagas (the Eddas) though chants accompanied by drums. Perry Como? Elvis? Meh.

Hydra009

Similarly...

[youtube:1x0hnsbd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0x8S1U7O3w[/youtube:1x0hnsbd]

[youtube:1x0hnsbd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZThquH5t0ow[/youtube:1x0hnsbd]

[youtube:1x0hnsbd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSA-yHzkvP8[/youtube:1x0hnsbd]

VS

[youtube:1x0hnsbd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBcMKwbMEcQ[/youtube:1x0hnsbd]

[youtube:1x0hnsbd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoRkntoHkIE[/youtube:1x0hnsbd]

[youtube:1x0hnsbd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sENM2wA_FTg[/youtube:1x0hnsbd]

Cherrypicked examples could be used to support either conclusion.

But compared to previous generations, the quality is about the same.  Looking back, there were some really, really bad songs that were wildly popular during their time - same as today.  The main difference is that today, there's a hell of a lot more of it being produced (which leads to more crap simply from sturgeon's law), much more competitive (simply from the sheer number of choices), and much more computerized (which can be awesome or terrible, depending on how it's used).  I dunno if that's better or worse, just different.

Personally, I think it's actually gotten slightly better lately compared to the last couple years, the dubstep and autotonedeaf crazes appear to finally be dying down, and there are finally some genuinely good newish bands on the scene.  Imagine Dragons ftw.  Plus, an interesting thing is new bands that stylistically sound like they're from a previous era, like Five Finger Death Punch and Cage the Elephant.  Don't get me wrong, there's still a lot of pure crap on the top 40 every week, but there are a few hopeful signs.

hillbillyatheist

I'd say we've come pretty far.....in the wrong direction. but thats just me.

[youtube:1fevqsrj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewnfWoSQz3o[/youtube:1fevqsrj]

vs.

[youtube:1fevqsrj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA4iX5D9Z64[/youtube:1fevqsrj]
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aitm

I don't know bro, I heard this other day and I was boppin and i love it even though it might have religious overtones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcrbM1l_BoI

and then there is this one which is definitely semi-masked religious but goddamn it if  I don't love the hell out of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGKfrgqWcv0


which leads one to wonder how much great run music can turn someone religious...this is pretty damn good stuff.
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Jack89

Quote from: "aitm"I don't know bro, I heard this other day and I was boppin and i love it even though it might have religious overtones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcrbM1l_BoI

and then there is this one which is definitely semi-masked religious but goddamn it if  I don't love the hell out of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGKfrgqWcv0

which leads one to wonder how much great run music can turn someone religious...this is pretty damn good stuff.

Good stuff.  Sounds like modernized bluegrass to me, and I like me some bluegrass.

Shiranu

QuoteCherrypicked examples could be used to support either conclusion.

This. I'm sorry, but the good bands of today blow the pop-trash bands of yesteryear out of the water, just like the good bands back in the day blow the pop-trash of today out of the water. To say any year is better than another in terms of music is being very biased I think, because you always have good and you always have bad music being produced.

Another example of what you're doing...

Here is Brasil...







And this is the United States...









As you can tell by my selective picture choices, Brasil is OBVIOUSLY are far better country than the United States ever could be.
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Hydra009

Quote from: "Shiranu"This. I'm sorry, but the good bands of today blow the pop-trash bands of yesteryear out of the water, just like the good bands back in the day blow the pop-trash of today out of the water. To say any year is better than another in terms of music is being very biased I think, because you always have good and you always have bad music being produced.
Thanks.  I was wondering whether or not I was alone there.

I don't particularly enjoy bursting people's bubbles, but bad reasoning seems to merit one's involvement.

I suppose the main reason people advance this position (besides the obvious nostalgia) is that older music has already been filtered - the hits are kept and the bombs are omitted, while new music hasn't been through this process yet.  But in a decade we probably won't even remember half the current crap, but we'll know all the hits.

hillbillyatheist

There's certainly modern tunes I dig, but more often than not its the older tunes (or new tunes that sound like older tunes)  that get me going. There was a time I could listen to mainstream country radio stations and like most of what I heard. I can't stand the radio now. whatever floats others baot is fine, but I fell kinda left out of the loop. LOL. yeah I'm nostalgic.

one the bright side however is thanks to the internet any musical niche can be filled in a way not possible in the past.  many of my favorite artists who never get played on the radio, still cut new CDs and I get them on iTunes or straight from their websites after they email me letting me know its out.. so modernity isn't all bad.
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Hydra009

Quote from: "hillbillyatheist"There's certainly modern tunes I dig, but more often than not its the older tunes (or new tunes that sound like older tunes)  that get me going. There was a time I could listen to mainstream country radio stations and like most of what I heard. I can't stand the radio now. whatever floats others baot is fine, but I fell kinda left out of the loop. LOL. yeah I'm nostalgic.
Yeah, me too.  As a big grunge/rock fan, the 2000s to current wasn't all that great for me either.  Geez.  Pop/rap everywhere.  I've branched out a little since then and there's been an ever-so-slight comeback, but damn, that decade was an ELE for good music.

Quoteone the bright side however is thanks to the internet any musical niche can be filled in a way not possible in the past.  many of my favorite artists who never get played on the radio, still cut new CDs and I get them on iTunes or straight from their websites after they email me letting me know its out.. so modernity isn't all bad.
Yeah, the internet is great.  And not only carries the original, but an absolutely insane amount of remixes, mashups, parodies, alternate music videos, you name it.  And a lot of stuff that otherwise would get local exposure or wouldn't even see the light of day at all.

Plu

Keep listening to good Metal. It's the direct offspring of baroque and other amazing classical music.

Jmpty

Music peaked 200 years ago. All this stuff is shit.
???  ??

aileron

It's all downhill after classical music.  Presumably people today are just as talented as then, but what we have now that they didn't back then is mass communications.  Mass communications made it profitable to make music simplistic so that it's "catchy" for quick sale, i.e. music today is it's own commercial jingle.
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hillbillyatheist

modern version of classical. wonder what Bach would have thought of this "piece"? LMAO!

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aileron

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