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Started by Youssuf Ramadan, July 24, 2013, 11:23:02 AM

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Youssuf Ramadan

I don't know if anyone has posted this before, but I found it entertaining.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... nlaws.html

QuoteBeware the In-Laws

Was it a mistake for Kate to have a baby in this family?

By Christopher Hitchens|Posted Monday, July 22, 2013, at 5:12 PM


Back in 2011, Christopher Hitchens tried to warn Kate Middleton away from the dreary dutifulness of life in the royal family. But now not only are they married, Kate and Prince William have a son. Mistake? Hitchens' article is reprinted below.
A hereditary monarch, observed Thomas Paine, is as absurd a proposition as a hereditary doctor or mathematician. But try pointing this out when everybody is seemingly moist with excitement about the cake plans and gown schemes of the constitutional absurdity's designated mother-to-be. You don't seem to be uttering common sense. You sound like a Scrooge. I suppose this must be the monarchical "magic" of which we hear so much: By some mystic alchemy, the breeding imperatives for a dynasty become the stuff of romance, even "fairy tale." The usually contemptuous words fairy tale were certainly coldly accurate about the romance quotient of the last two major royal couplings, which brought the vapid disco-princesses Diana and Sarah (I decline to call her "Fergie") within range of demolishing the entire mystique. And, even if the current match looks a lot more wholesome and genuine, its principal function is still to restore a patina of glamour that has been all but irretrievably lost.
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The British monarchy doesn't depend entirely on glamour, as the long, long reign of Queen Elizabeth II continues to demonstrate. Her unflinching dutifulness and reliability have conferred something beyond charm upon the institution, associating it with stoicism and a certain integrity. Republicanism is infinitely more widespread than it was when she was first crowned, but it's very rare indeed to hear the Sovereign Lady herself being criticized, and even most anti-royalists hasten to express themselves admiringly where she is concerned.
I am not sure how deserved this immunity really is. The queen took two major decisions quite early in her reign, neither of which was forced upon her. She refused to allow her younger sister Margaret to marry the man she loved and had chosen, and she let her authoritarian husband have charge of the education of her eldest son. The first decision was taken to appease the most conservative leaders of the Church of England (a church of which she is, absurdly, the head), who could not approve the marriage of Margaret to a divorced man. The second was taken for reasons less clear.
The harvest was equally gruesome in both cases: Princess Margaret later married and divorced a man she did not love and then had years to waste as the model of the bone-idle, cigarette-holdered, gin-sipping socialite, surrounded with third-rate gossips and charmers and as unhappy as the day was long. (She also produced some extra royal children, for whom something to do had to be found.) Prince Charles, subjected to a regime of fierce paternal harangues and penitential cold-shower boarding schools, withdrew into himself, was eventually talked into a calamitous marriage with someone he didn't love or respect, and is now the morose, balding, New Age crank and licensed busybody that we flinch from today. He has also apparently found belated contentment with the former wife of a brother-officer.
Together, Margaret and Charles set the tone for the dowdy, feckless, can't-stay-married shower of titled descendants with whose names, let alone doings, it is near-impossible to keep up. There are so many of them! And things always have to be found for them to do.
For Prince William at least it was decided on the day of his birth what he should do: Find a presentable wife, father a male heir (and preferably a male "spare" as well), and keep the show on the road. By yet another exercise of that notorious "magic," it is now doubly and triply important that he does this simple thing right, because only his supposed charisma can save the country from what monarchists dread and republicans ought to hope for: King Charles III. (Monarchy, you see, is a hereditary disease that can only be cured by fresh outbreaks of itself.) An even longer life for the present queen is generally hoped for: failing that a palace maneuver that skips a generation and saves the British from a man who—like the fruit of the medlar—went rotten before he turned ripe.
Convinced republican that I am, and foe of the prince who talks to plants and wants to be crowned "head of all faiths" as well as the etiolated Church of England, I find myself pierced by a pang of sympathy. Not much of a life, is it, growing old and stale with no real job except waiting for the news of Mummy's death? Some British people claim actually to "love" their rather dumpy Hanoverian ruling house. This love takes the macabre form of demanding a regular human sacrifice whereby unexceptional people are condemned to lead wholly artificial and strained existences, and then punished or humiliated when they crack up.
The last few weeks brought tidings of the latest grotesqueries involving Prince Andrew, Charles' brother. If I haven't forgotten anything, he had just recovered from tidings involving overwarm relations with the Qaddafi clan when his ex-wife was found to have scrounged a loan from a wealthy American friend whose record, alas, was disfigured by a conviction for sexual relations with the underage. The loan would have defrayed part of the unending wasteful expenditure that is required to keep the Ferguson girl staggering between scandals and sponsorships. I mean, the whole thing is just so painfully and absolutely vulgar. And, among the queen's many children and grandchildren, not by any means exceptional behavior either ....
This is why I laughed so loud when the Old Guard began snickering about the pedigree of young Ms. Middleton. Her parents, it appeared, were not quite out of the top drawer. The mother had been an air hostess or something with an unfashionable airline, and the family had been overheard using lethally wrong expressions, such as serviette for napkin, settee for sofa, and—I can barely bring myself to type the shameful letters—toilet for lavatory. Ah, so that's what constitutes vulgarity! People who would never dare risk a public criticism of the royal family, even in its daytime-soap incarnation, prefer to take a surreptitious revenge on a young woman of modest background. For shame.
Myself, I wish her well and also wish I could whisper to her: If you really love him, honey, get him out of there, and yourself, too. Many of us don't want or need another sacrificial lamb to water the dried bones and veins of a dessicated system. Do yourself a favor and save what you can: Leave the throne to the awful next incumbent that the hereditary principle has mandated for it.

Hitch tells it like it is.   :lol:

hillbillyatheist

thanks for sharing. did I mention? fuck the royalty!
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Poison Tree

I was hoping this article would reappear. I like that line "Monarchy, you see, is a hereditary disease that can only be cured by fresh outbreaks of itself"
"Observe that noses were made to wear spectacles; and so we have spectacles. Legs were visibly instituted to be breeched, and we have breeches" Voltaire�s Candide

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Seabear

The media obsession with the British royal family here in the States always irritates and amazes me. I don't get it. Everything about American history is a rejection of the idea of hereditary authority, yet so many people here just eat this shit up.
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ApostateLois

It baffles me, too, Seabear. I do not give two shits about the royal inbreds and the royal brats that they spawn every few years. It is an archaic system that is long overdue for extinction, a dinosaur hobbling around on three legs waiting to die. So Kate has popped out a kid. So what? He is doomed to a miserable existence doing the bidding of previous generations of royalty, catering to their whims, obeying their decisions, marrying not whom HE wants, but whomever it is decided will make a good enough wife to produce yet more royal male heirs. The only thing I'm glad about is that William and Harry got their mother's looks instead of their father's, and maybe that will be passed on and future royals won't look so frumpy and gloomy.
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Shiranu

Quote from: "Seabear"The media obsession with the British royal family here in the States always irritates and amazes me. I don't get it. Everything about American history is a rejection of the idea of hereditary authority, yet so many people here just eat this shit up.

What if I told you not all American's immigrated here during the American revolution, or that even the majority of American's supported the rebels (they were the minority, most people didn't care or supported the crown)?
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

hillbillyatheist

I'd say so what. The revolutionists won. fuck the royalty! long live the republic!


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hillbillyatheist

oh and let us salute our comrades in france. we couldn't have made the king our bitch without you!


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Shiranu

Now THAT is how a national anthem should sound (to completely sidetrack).

Germany's "Das Deutschlandlied" is great too, and I think Austria's was another of my favourite... so regal and pompous. I wish we had something more akin to those, but it is what it is.

And let's be completely honest... if the king had wanted to steam roll America, the British could have done it before France got involved. (Another sidetrack) I don't get why France get's such a bad rap... they have been complete powerhouses up until WW2, and even then they only got steam-rolled because Belgium was a little bitch and let Germany walk right around the border and behind enemy lines. I also remember the English getting their asses handed to em' in WW2,  but no one talks about how bad they have been in war.
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Fidel_Castronaut

Quote from: "Shiranu"Now THAT is how a national anthem should sound (to completely sidetrack).

Germany's "Das Deutschlandlied" is great too, and I think Austria's was another of my favourite... so regal and pompous. I wish we had something more akin to those, but it is what it is.

And let's be completely honest... if the king had wanted to steam roll America, the British could have done it before France got involved. (Another sidetrack) I don't get why France get's such a bad rap... they have been complete powerhouses up until WW2, and even then they only got steam-rolled because Belgium was a little bitch and let Germany walk right around the border and behind enemy lines. I also remember the English getting their asses handed to em' in WW2,  but no one talks about how bad they have been in war.

In the history of wars in Europe, France has actually been on the winning side more than any other nation, or at least so I'm told.

I disagree that the British (not the English) "got their asses handed to them" in WWII. In fact, we halted and slowed the German and Japanese advances on several fronts years before the Americans got involved, FYI (N. Africa, Burma, Channel).

But I'm not getting into dick waving contests. I'm a republican, but republicanism is very unpopular in Britain at the moment.
I also find American patriotism quite funny. It's definitely a source of strength in some respects, but I wholeheartedly agree with Renan when he says that patriotism towards the nation is thanks more to what people forget than to what they remember.
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Hydra009

Quote from: "Shiranu"What if I told you not all Americans immigrated here during the American revolution
No excuses.  Half of my family are fairly recent immigrants (3 generations).  Get with the program.   :P

Solitary

The first post is spot on in my opinion. Solitary
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Seabear

Quote from: "Shiranu"
Quote from: "Seabear"The media obsession with the British royal family here in the States always irritates and amazes me. I don't get it. Everything about American history is a rejection of the idea of hereditary authority, yet so many people here just eat this shit up.

What if I told you not all American's immigrated here during the American revolution, or that even the majority of American's supported the rebels (they were the minority, most people didn't care or supported the crown)?
Again, you miss the point. It makes no difference when you came here or where you came from. You know, we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, and all that shit. Our entire country is founded upon, among other things, the rejection of the idea of hereditary royalty. WTF have Royals done to benefit society? Other than providing video fodder for "inside hollywood" and other simpering celebrity-worship television programs.

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Shiranu

QuoteI disagree that the British (not the English) "got their asses handed to them" in WWII. In fact, we halted and slowed the German and Japanese advances on several fronts years before the Americans got involved, FYI (N. Africa, Burma, Channel).

I guess so. Compared to everyone else yall did hold your own.

QuoteAgain, you miss the point. It makes no difference when you came here or where you came from. You know, we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, and all that shit. Our entire country is founded upon, among other things, the rejection of the idea of hereditary royalty.

Unless, you know... that's not part of your history...
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