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Started by Cassia, September 12, 2025, 05:26:07 PM

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Soul

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on October 18, 2025, 10:19:32 AMWhy the fuck would I do anything you demand I do?

Firstly, I recommended that you don't leave your assertion as a baseless one. Otherwise, what good is it? Secondly, "recommend" is to suggest something as good or worthy, while "demand" is to insist on something forcefully. The key difference is the level of authority and pressure: a recommendation is a suggestion that can be refused, whereas a demand is a non-negotiable requirement.
"The eye of the soul is the will." — Jesus

Gawdzilla Sama

Why part of You're An Idiot are you not processing?
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Cassia

Unfortunately, christians "forget" that the biblical prophecy states Jesus will be unattractive: "no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him" (Isaiah 53:2). The earliest depictions of Jesus (2nd to 4th centuries) by his cult members are true to this. He often has short curly hair, (sometimes with a Roman bowl cut) is clean shaven and is typically depicted as a Shepard.

Note that altered versions of Josephus's historical work,The Jewish War, even describes Jesus as a very short hunchback with a unibrow, LOL. This was simply to fulfil the prophesy. Christians were constantly altering texts to say what they wanted to say at the time.





Then in the 4th century Jesus finally gets a beard and long hair.


Then finally we get the Aryan Jesus that Maria was told of. The version so many know and love, lol.


The gospels included in the babble are silent on his appearance. Maybe because an ugly Jesus might not help the cause.

Gawdzilla Sama

"There are lies, damned lies, and biblical prophesies."
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Soul

#139
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on October 18, 2025, 10:34:13 AMWhy part of You're An Idiot are you not processing?

Another ad hominem. If you had said nothing at all, it would've been just as ineffective, but you wouldn't have been uncharitable.
"The eye of the soul is the will." — Jesus

Soul

#140
Quote from: Cassia on October 18, 2025, 10:40:22 AMUnfortunately, christians "forget" that the biblical prophecy states Jesus will be unattractive: "no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him" (Isaiah 53:2). The gospels included in the babble are silent on his appearance. Maybe because an ugly Jesus might not help the cause.

Like I told another Christian who shares your interpretation of Is. 53:2, it isn't about Jesus's physical appearance. Jesus explained the meaning. See below.

QuoteHe hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. — Isaiah 53:2

My children, in this verse My servant Isaiah spoke of the wonderful illumination given to those who were Spirit-guided.

To those who know Me not, there is in Me nothing to appeal to them, or to attract them.

To those who know Me there is nothing more to be desired. "No beauty they could desire Him."

Oh! My children, draw very near to Me. See Me as I really am, that ever you may have the Joy of finding in Me all you could desire. The fulfillment of all you could desire in Master, Lord, or Friend. (God Calling)

"The eye of the soul is the will." — Jesus

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: Soul on October 18, 2025, 10:45:49 AMAnother ad hominem. If you had said nothing at all, it would've been just as ineffective, but you wouldn't have been uncharitable.
You really think you're coming off a holy? No, your just another asshole.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Soul

#142
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on October 18, 2025, 11:03:06 AMYou really think you're coming off a holy? No, your just another asshole.

I didn't say that I think I'm holy. How have I been an asshole to you? And,if I'm an asshole, what does that make you with all your ad hominems at me? Do you call yourself an asshole? Imagine the responses I'd get from you if I talked to you the way you talk to me. If the rejection of God makes for a better person, I don't see that in how you talk to me and countless others.
"The eye of the soul is the will." — Jesus

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: Soul on October 18, 2025, 11:05:08 AMI didn't say that I think I'm holy. How have I been an asshole to you? And,if I'm an asshole, what does that make you with all your ad hominems at me? Do you call yourself an asshole? Imagine the responses I'd get from you if I talked to you the way you talk to me. If the rejection of God makes for a better person, I don't see that in how you talk to me and countless others.
You support the system, you repeat the stupidity, you bully people who don't agree with you. (And don't tell me you don't.) You're just another Christ Botherer. Pity there's no open season on believers.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Soul

#144
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on October 18, 2025, 12:35:59 PMYou support the system, you repeat the stupidity, you bully people who don't agree with you. (And don't tell me you don't.) You're just another Christ Botherer.

I tell you wholeheartedly that I don't bully people who don't agree with me, including you. I'm an asshole to you? I bully you? Let's wait and see if you substantiate those baseless assertions about me. 🍿


Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on October 18, 2025, 12:35:59 PMPity there's no open season on believers.

What if I said that about atheists? Do you want me to want your death? Or, do you want me to not kill, not even wish the death of another, even my enemies, and instead love them in my thoughts, words, and actions, no matter how they treat me?
"The eye of the soul is the will." — Jesus

Gawdzilla Sama

You are part of the problem. You lie to yourself that you're not part of the problem. That is part of your problem.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Soul

#146
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on October 18, 2025, 03:03:40 PMYou are part of the problem. You lie to yourself that you're not part of the problem. That is part of your problem.

More baseless assertions. Questions unanswered.
"The eye of the soul is the will." — Jesus

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: Soul on October 18, 2025, 04:04:45 PMMore baseless assertions. More questions gone unanswered.
More fuck you. Get used to it. You have not shown any reason to respect you.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Soul

#148
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on October 18, 2025, 04:15:33 PMMore fuck you. Get used to it. You have not shown any reason to respect you.

More insults. More baseless assertions. Questions still unanswered. Does one gain respect by behaving like you?
"The eye of the soul is the will." — Jesus

Cassia

Quote from: Soul on October 18, 2025, 10:55:08 AMLike I told another Christian who shares your interpretation of Is. 53:2, it isn't about Jesus's physical appearance. Jesus explained the meaning. See below.
I am very aware of the mental gymnastics that apologists use to rewrite whatever they feel they need to. Such intellectual dishonesty. OK so the historical Jesus looked like a Swedish tennis player, not a desert dwelling tribesman born somewhere in Judea. The perfect word of god can't even get the town straight with all that fictional Bethlehem census nonsense. Imagine millions of people having to physically go back to where their great, great, great, great, great,....great grandfather was born for a census. Way to fulfill the prophesy, Matt, LOL. So stupid.

This scripture is basic...."oh no, but you see [insert bullshit here]". This is why you can't engage with cult members.
CEV
Like a young plant or a root that sprouts in dry ground, the servant grew up obeying the Lord. He wasn't some handsome king. Nothing about the way he looked made him attractive to us.
CJB
For before him he grew up like a young plant, like a root out of dry ground. He was not well-formed or especially handsome; we saw him, but his appearance did not attract us
KJ21
For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground. He hath no form nor comeliness, and when we shall see Him, there is no beauty that we should desire Him.