Started by 374621, November 10, 2016, 06:02:19 PM
Quote from: Cavebear on November 11, 2016, 07:58:52 AMEspecially when making gravy. But what do YOU mean by "lumping"?
Quote from: 374621 on November 10, 2016, 07:21:25 PMAlot of them cant be changed, theres no arguments that you can use on them. Some people feel no empathy no remorse for doing evil things and dont get any pleasure in doing nice/good things, how can you convince them to adopt morals or to "acquire" a conscience
Quote from: drunkenshoe on November 11, 2016, 08:00:00 AMGawdzilla? What is wrong with you? You are not acting the way you usually do. Trump?
Quote from: Sal1981 on November 11, 2016, 08:09:07 AMI think Gawdzilla Sama means that the concepts of 'ethics' and 'morality' overlap or something.
Quote from: 374621 on November 10, 2016, 08:34:22 PMWhat caused the change in humans at some point in the past, what happened where men were conquering other tribes/villages and raping the women and be ok with it, some buried female babies simply or being a girl, slavery, and all the other evil/barbaric things humans did, how do we go from this to humans starting to think and feel bad for their actions, starting to help their fellow man because it made them happy. I guess its not that important, perhaps the only way to find the answers to my questions is if i could see what humans thought and felt all throughout history...
Quote from: 374621 on November 10, 2016, 06:02:19 PMI was wondering if all or most humans throughout history have had a conscience, this inner feeling that makes them feel bad when they murder for no reason or makes them feel good if they feed a homeless man for example. Or is morality a man made thing, maybe with religion the religious authorities started telling everyone what is good and what is bad and told the masses what rules to follow because this is what God wants maybe his is how morality was originated?. I wonder if the people that owned slaves ever felt bad/guity about owning them or if they never experienced a discomfort in owning another human being or maybe they thought their slaves were animals or something. I wonder if in the distant past when humans were hunters if they didnt feel bad going into a village and killing the men and taking the women for themselves or maybe they did feel bad but they ignored that feeling.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on November 10, 2016, 06:35:08 PMAnimals other than humans show morality. "Groom and be groomed", for example.
Quote from: 374621 on November 10, 2016, 06:41:20 PMIf kids are taught at an early age that its ok to murder steal lie etc if its for your benefit will they ever "feel bad" for doing what they do
Quote from: Baruch on November 11, 2016, 09:39:44 AMThe real Arabs are raised in a harsh climate.
Quote from: 374621 on November 10, 2016, 07:13:24 PMWhat Im curious about is not so much morality but conscience. Have we always felt bad/guilty for killing someone who angered us, did slave owners feel any negative feelings.
Quote from: Baruch on November 11, 2016, 12:14:29 PMAgreed ... but modern people can't even qualify as primitive tribal members ... we are toxic except in the war of everyone against everyone else.
Quote from: Sal1981 on November 11, 2016, 12:28:54 PMReally? Dang. I had hopes for a global village.
Quote from: Baruch on November 11, 2016, 09:28:14 AMSome people should be eliminated early in their criminal careers ... but hope brings mercy ... even if it turns out to be foolish.
Quote from: Baruch on November 11, 2016, 09:36:49 AMNative Americans had myths to deal with the problem of killing animals, yet seeing animals as a kind of people, that were being murdered. Compensation had to be offered, to the animals, or the gods, for the trespass of hunting. Also fear of an enraged buffalo stomping on you. Native Americans got in touch with this, by the stories told by their parents, and thru a spirit quest (shamanism). They basically stitched their individual story into the larger story of their tribe and of nature. This is a poetic and creative act. This is part of the reason for the elaborate animal sacrifice system, including the Jerusalem Temple. Sacralized barbecue.