Sanders supporters, what are you doing for your plan b?

[gentle_dissident]

The new PM might seem very liberal ... but I suspect other things are going on under the carpet.

What have you heard?

But my first consideration is the serenity I get from forests and wild areas with abundant wild life, and there is still that in the United States, but it's getting harder to find.

Looking out my window, I only see trees and pasture. Looking the other direction, I see a city. It's samallish, so it's like the town/city I grew up in, It too was on the edge of town. Looking out my window, all I could see were wheat fields. Looking out another window, I saw the fruit orchard in our backyard. My friends and I would frequently leave to explore different streams and forests. Our parents were weird enough to let us kids sleep in the wilderness. We'd get dropped off, set up camp, throw weapons and blow things up. Thinking about it, we sure spent a lot of time outdoors. I still go exploring this stretch of land out my front door.

I'd like to live in the woods, but I'm too poor to get started, and no friends to make up for it. I have been wanting to go off grid for years. Perhaps I could talk my GF's roller derby team into helping out.

When I was in Canada, I spent a week at the good old Crystal Beach with some Buffalo Bohemians. I wish I had pictures to go with the memories.

I found a Pintrest page with pics of the park. 'Twas a small part of that good time.
https://www.pinterest.com/tnj1956/crystal-beach-amusement-park/

[Baruch]

The Chinese corruption in BC is proverbial.  So is the oil corruption in Alberta.  And there is always unrest in Quebec.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/justin-trudeau_us_56ddec4ae4b03a405679827c

With all that corruption, the new Canadian PM makes nice noises.  But you have to wonder what is going on behind closed doors, with the conservative goal of undoing Canadian universal health care for example.

[Solomon Zorn]

Long thread. Has anyone mentioned a Clinton/Sanders ticket, with Bernie as VP?

[SGOS]

Long thread. Has anyone mentioned a Clinton/Sanders ticket, with Bernie as VP?

I've wondered about that, but it doesn't seem like it would have the same impact of inviting a Baptist minister onto the ticket to draw in the religious right.  Sanders and Clinton don't fit together.  At least their public images are so contradictory that it would just add confusion to the messages each were trying to articulate.  Maybe that's good.  It might make people lose sight of Hillary's devotion to the wealthy, and start thinking , "Maybe she does give a shit about the average American who can't afford entry into the same country clubs where she and her best friends hang out."

If Bernie actually means half of what he says, it would come out looking like Hillary was bragging to the American public, "Look here.  I've got Bernie kissing my ass so all can see what a hypocritical twat he's been all along."

[Solomon Zorn]

"Hypocritical twat," may be a little harsh. I think it would show a unity that the Republicans can't muster, and it would be pragmatic.

[SGOS]

"Hypocritical twat," may be a little harsh. I think it would show a unity that the Republicans can't muster, and it would be pragmatic.

"Hypocritical Twat" was an exaggeration.  I meant it to be funny.  Obviously Clinton wouldn't say anything like, especially about her pick for VP.  Sanders as VP could happen, I just think there's too much difference between them.  Sanders would have to throw out most of what he stands for and support things he has opposed.  That would significantly tax his credibility, but maybe he would want the job enough.  It would first be up to Hillary, and I don't think she would see him as a good match.  But nothing here would surprise me very much, either.  Unity in the cabinet under Clinton wouldn't impress me, anyway.  It would be like, "Oh look, the Democrats have come together in unity.  Just more of the same old same old.

I'd actually like to tell you some day that I was wrong.  I'm just not expecting I'm going to feel that way, but it would be wonderful if the situation turned out to warrant it. 

[AllPurposeAtheist]

As it stands now it looks like HRC is going to win the Democratic nomination for better or worse.  I'll take HRC ANY DAY over anyone from the rubes..

[gentle_dissident]

Clinton allies fume over Sanders's vow to fight on
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/278463-sanderss-persistence-irks-dems

This election is one of the most amazing things I've seen in my life.

[Mike Cl]

Clinton allies fume over Sanders's vow to fight on
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/278463-sanderss-persistence-irks-dems

This election is one of the most amazing things I've seen in my life.

Hell, gentile, we are not even half way through.  I agree with you so far--just, fucking, amazing!

[Hydra009]

"Hypocritical twat," may be a little harsh. I think it would show a unity that the Republicans can't muster, and it would be pragmatic.

Yeah, it'd be a good play.  That's why I doubt the Dems would do it.

[widdershins]

Unrelated (well, vaguely related), but did you guys see the White House Correspondents Speech?  I would actually pay to see this show.  Some great digs on Hillary and Republicans and a fucking amazing clip Boehner worked with Obama to make (do you remember when Republicans used to work with Democrats on things?  It's actually pretty cool to see it again).

[Mike Cl]

Unrelated (well, vaguely related), but did you guys see the White House Correspondents Speech?  I would actually pay to see this show.  Some great digs on Hillary and Republicans and a fucking amazing clip Boehner worked with Obama to make (do you remember when Republicans used to work with Democrats on things?  It's actually pretty cool to see it again).

I liked it as well.  Obama has a future as a stand-up comedian.  He is a smooth talker and is one of the easiest politicians to listen to than I've ever heard.

[SGOS]

Unrelated (well, vaguely related), but did you guys see the White House Correspondents Speech?  I would actually pay to see this show.  Some great digs on Hillary and Republicans and a fucking amazing clip Boehner worked with Obama to make (do you remember when Republicans used to work with Democrats on things?  It's actually pretty cool to see it again).

That's funny stuff.

[AllPurposeAtheist]

Sanders seems to have played his cards by making HRC choose between her loyal servant and DRC chair Debby Wasserman Shultz and the rest of the Democratic party..
If she picks Shultz the party and the deligates may just pick Sanders.. We shall see..
Shultz is corrupt as they come and the party base knows it.

[wolf39us]

I'm enticed with the idea of #BernieOrBust.  Let's just write his name in :-)