Sanders supporters, what are you doing for your plan b?

Started by PickelledEggs, April 23, 2016, 01:51:43 AM

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SGOS

#120
May 23, 2016, 11:16:59 AM
Meanwhile, hopes for a less conservative and more middle of the road Trump, seem to be going down the drain.  But that really shouldn't be a big surprise.

PickelledEggs

#121
May 23, 2016, 11:21:07 AM
Quote from: wolf39us on May 23, 2016, 10:24:43 AM
I'm enticed with the idea of #BernieOrBust.  Let's just write his name in :-)
The problem with that is it's the same reason Bush was elected instead of Al Gore. The votes were split too much between Nader and Gore and caused Bush to become elected... I really don't want another George Bush. We've already had two of them... and 3 terms of them...

Mermaid

#122
May 23, 2016, 11:21:57 AM
Quote from: wolf39us on May 23, 2016, 10:24:43 AM
I'm enticed with the idea of #BernieOrBust.  Let's just write his name in :-)
That seems like a really good way to get Trump elected president.
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

wolf39us

#123
May 23, 2016, 11:23:50 AM
@Mermaid I agree it probably is.  With HC on the dem side though, I'm not sure which I dislike more.

I'm either voting for a guy who both the Dems and the Republicans dislike, or voting for corporations to keep ruling the same way they've always ruled.

Seems like a lose/lose to me.

Mermaid

#124
May 23, 2016, 11:25:14 AM
I do not understand how Trump and Clinton are equally bad for the white house. That just doesn't compute at all.
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

SGOS

#125
May 23, 2016, 11:51:39 AM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on May 23, 2016, 11:21:07 AM
The problem with that is it's the same reason Bush was elected instead of Al Gore. The votes were split too much between Nader and Gore and caused Bush to become elected... I really don't want another George Bush. We've already had two of them... and 3 terms of them...

I doubt that Trump would be as bad as George W.  I have no way of knowing for sure, but it's really hard to imagine.

PickelledEggs

#126
May 23, 2016, 11:52:50 AM
Quote from: SGOS on May 23, 2016, 11:51:39 AM
I doubt that Trump would be as bad as George W.  I have no way of knowing for sure, but it's really hard to imagine.
I guess that is comforting.... a little.... i guess

SGOS

#127
May 23, 2016, 12:27:39 PM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on May 23, 2016, 11:52:50 AM
I guess that is comforting.... a little.... i guess

It's hard to imagine any president taking on an undertaking of such grandiose proportions as a Mideast invasion, while at the same time failing to think it through, and lacking an exit strategy or much of anything beyond just imagining a vital democracy springing forth from the ashes as if guided by the hand of an unseen god.

drunkenshoe

#128
May 23, 2016, 12:38:36 PM
Quote from: gentle_dissident on April 29, 2016, 10:13:56 PM
Looks like I'm going to have a make a difference in my own country then.

It seems I'll have to pack in a few years too...see you in Vancouver. We'll find somewhere to turn into a commune.
"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

Mermaid

#129
May 23, 2016, 01:18:02 PM
Quote from: SGOS on May 23, 2016, 11:51:39 AM
I doubt that Trump would be as bad as George W.  I have no way of knowing for sure, but it's really hard to imagine.
I think he is far far less qualified. Keep in mind, he will have access to nuclear weapons.
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

wolf39us

#130
May 23, 2016, 01:37:13 PM
@Mermaid True, but he would still need approval from the secretary of defense and can be overridden.  Pretty sure the president can't just willy nilly order nuclear strikes.

PickelledEggs

#131
May 23, 2016, 02:53:32 PM
Quote from: wolf39us on May 23, 2016, 01:37:13 PM
@Mermaid True, but he would still need approval from the secretary of defense and can be overridden.  Pretty sure the president can't just willy nilly order nuclear strikes.
Trump is a business man. I have a fear that he would barter policy for policy and action for action. If he wants to bomb something, the possibility of that happening is not as far fetched as you might think.

Flanker1Six

#132
May 23, 2016, 02:59:15 PM
Everyone  (well.......most anyway; including me until '08) bitches about the Dems & GOP; then votes for one of them anyway!   What's that definition of insanity I'm trying to remember????????    Oh, yea! 

Don't like the way things have been/are going?  There is a real alternative to the shit covered coin that is Trump/Billary; Dem/GOP.

http://www.lp.org/

drunkenshoe

#133
May 24, 2016, 06:57:33 AM
People think I am crazy when I say this -and I wish I was often wrong as often as people think I am crazy, nowhere even close- BUT Trump would get very good behind the curtain with the likes of what we have around here. Match made in heaven. They religious party here and the Republican party there fits like square peg in square hole, doesn't matter what colour they are. :sad2:
"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

Baruch

#134
May 24, 2016, 07:10:26 AM
Both the US and Turkey favor strong-man dictatorships right now.  And I can understand this drift, since democracy clearly has failed once again, as it did in ancient Athens.  There are no good government forms, Plato and Aristotle were optimists.  The nature of humanity is to be nasty, brutish and short ... but enough about my Ex ;-)
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Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.
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