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Started by The Atheist, March 20, 2016, 05:30:27 AM

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mauricio

Quote from: The Atheist on March 20, 2016, 04:27:03 PM
Maybe I hold an incorrect view, but I feel strongly that career choice should be determined by race. Asians can focus on STEM areas, whites can focus on business and politics, and blacks can focus on entertainment and sports.

There's much more nuance to race than this. There are subgroups of black people who generally dominate certain sports like sprint racing and basketball. But there's other sports generally dominated by subgroups of white people like hammer throwing (them northern europeans with thor's blood) and swimming. I think you are kind of viewing this like a video game with discrete races and their racial passive bonuses. I also think you might be confusing correlations with causal relation. We know that asians in general in the US seem to score higher in some academic settings. But this is just a correlation between two variables. To say that this means asians are racially superior at those tests would need to control for confouding variables and analysis of the mechanisms that make it so. This has not been done as far as i know.

Johan

Quote from: The Atheist on March 20, 2016, 04:27:03 PM
Maybe I hold an incorrect view, but I feel strongly that career choice should be determined by race. Asians can focus on STEM areas, whites can focus on business and politics, and blacks can focus on entertainment and sports.
That's a grand plan you got there Hop Sing. You left out a few details though. Who will pick up the garbage in your grand plan? Also since all your asian brethren are busy using their superior brains to solve science and math problems for the rest of us, who will be left to build all the iphones?

More importantly, why the fuck should you care one bit what anyone who isn't you chooses to do for a living?
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false and by the rulers as useful

Baruch

Quote from: The Atheist on March 20, 2016, 04:27:03 PM
Maybe I hold an incorrect view, but I feel strongly that career choice should be determined by race. Asians can focus on STEM areas, whites can focus on business and politics, and blacks can focus on entertainment and sports.

Its OK to go retard, but not OK to go full retard.  I am pulling your E Asian card ... not smart enough.  Either that, or don't troll.  We can't all have tiger mothers, thank G-d!
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Mike Cl

Quote from: The Atheist on March 20, 2016, 04:27:03 PM
Maybe I hold an incorrect view, but I feel strongly that career choice should be determined by race. Asians can focus on STEM areas, whites can focus on business and politics, and blacks can focus on entertainment and sports.
I would call that wishful thinking or deluded thinking.  So, yeah, you hold an incorrect view.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Nonsensei

Gotta admit, while I've seen a lot of crazy shit said on this forum I've never seen someone come right out and blatantly admit they are a racist and then assert that they are right to be one.

And then support that assertion with disprovable racial stereotypes.

I guess in his world its ok for me to go ahead and assert that, as a Japanese man, he has a teeny tiny dick. After all, stereotypes are valid right?
And on the wings of a dream so far beyond reality
All alone in desperation now the time has come
Lost inside you'll never find, lost within my own mind
Day after day this misery must go on

Hydra009

Quote from: Shiranu on March 20, 2016, 05:06:19 PMEdit Edit Edit: Also, what if you are of two or more races? Wut do?
President or pro golfer.  :P


QuoteEdit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: What jobs will Native Americans have?
Casinos.

Poison Tree

Quote from: The Atheist on March 20, 2016, 04:27:03 PM
Maybe I hold an incorrect view, but I feel strongly that career choice should be determined by race. Asians can focus on STEM areas, whites can focus on business and politics, and blacks can focus on entertainment and sports.
Hold on guys, I think he's right: Neil deGrasse Tyson and Michelle Kwan clearly would have been better off switching jobs 
[spoiler]:wtf:[/spoiler]
"Observe that noses were made to wear spectacles; and so we have spectacles. Legs were visibly instituted to be breeched, and we have breeches" Voltaire�s Candide

Shiranu

The Atheist, how does it feel to know from a biological standpoint you are an inferiour race? That when your people live in the rest of the world, they prefer white men to you?

Pretty much you have to stick to your little island, or us "less intelligent" races are going to steal your lady folk and pollute your gene pool. And even then we export our genes to your shrinking population island...

Your intelligence aint better than our majestic beards and bigger dicks, son. Have fun with your high suicide rates and depression.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

The Atheist

It appears I've angered people here. Please accept my apologies. I was also accused of trolling, which isn't true at all. My ideas are unorthodox but they're sincere.

The career segregation I recommended in my previous post was only a general idea. Of course there are exceptions; some blacks can be politicians and some whites can be professional athletes. Some Asians can even choose to pursue STEM areas as a hobby, rather than as a career. Let's be honest, though. How many brothas in the ghetto are reading Plato or doing calculus? Two? One?

Did you know that Hitler considered the Japanese honorary Aryans? I don't advocate every single idea of Hitler's, but he was successful in his endeavors, and success simply doesn't happen without some degree of correct thought. I'm not declaring anything as fact, but maybe his great mind, which served him so well in the military and political arenas, also bore fruit in other areas of thought. Maybe we can dig through the falsehoods for those kernels of truth in Hitler's worldview.
"I will take China's Great Wall because they owe us so much money, and I will place it on the Mexican border."

-Ronald Rump

The Atheist

Quote from: Shiranu on March 20, 2016, 09:16:16 PM
The Atheist, how does it feel to know from a biological standpoint you are an inferiour race? That when your people live in the rest of the world, they prefer white men to you?

Pretty much you have to stick to your little island, or us "less intelligent" races are going to steal your lady folk and pollute your gene pool. And even then we export our genes to your shrinking population island...

Your intelligence aint better than our majestic beards and bigger dicks, son. Have fun with your high suicide rates and depression.

Sure, Japanese women like to experience whites, but my understanding is that girls in Japan aren't exactly bringing home white guys to meet mom and dad. I've never been to Japan, though, so I can't offer an opinion. I actually live in America.
"I will take China's Great Wall because they owe us so much money, and I will place it on the Mexican border."

-Ronald Rump

GSOgymrat

Quote from: The Atheist on March 21, 2016, 02:10:33 AM
It appears I've angered people here. Please accept my apologies. I was also accused of trolling, which isn't true at all. My ideas are unorthodox but they're sincere.

The career segregation I recommended in my previous post was only a general idea. Of course there are exceptions; some blacks can be politicians and some whites can be professional athletes. Some Asians can even choose to pursue STEM areas as a hobby, rather than as a career. Let's be honest, though. How many brothas in the ghetto are reading Plato or doing calculus? Two? One?

Did you know that Hitler considered the Japanese honorary Aryans? I don't advocate every single idea of Hitler's, but he was successful in his endeavors, and success simply doesn't happen without some degree of correct thought. I'm not declaring anything as fact, but maybe his great mind, which served him so well in the military and political arenas, also bore fruit in other areas of thought. Maybe we can dig through the falsehoods for those kernels of truth in Hitler's worldview.


mauricio


Baruch

#42
Quote from: The Atheist on March 21, 2016, 02:14:34 AM
Sure, Japanese women like to experience whites, but my understanding is that girls in Japan aren't exactly bringing home white guys to meet mom and dad. I've never been to Japan, though, so I can't offer an opinion. I actually live in America.

They don't get to meet too many White guys, it being mostly Japanese folk who live there ;-)

"Did you know that Hitler considered the Japanese honorary Aryans?"  yes, and Mussolini considered Hitler to be an honorary Kraut (he was Austrian, not real German).  Reminds me of Mozart vs Salieri ;-))
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: Poison Tree on March 20, 2016, 09:11:57 PM
Hold on guys, I think he's right: Neil deGrasse Tyson and Michelle Kwan clearly would have been better off switching jobs 
[spoiler]:wtf:[/spoiler]

Tyson heard your suggestion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKFfYFTNGz4
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

#44
As an intellectual exercise, one can seriously examine Hitler's serious thinking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Adolf_Hitler

https://www.waste.org/~roadrunner/writing/ViewingPower/LevinasEarlyWork.htm

Essentially Hitler's Fuhrer-Prinzip is a secular version of High Papacy ... like the Borgias, but with much more military power, like in the Albigensian Crusade:  "Kill them all, let G-d sort it out".

One would need to get deeply into Nietzsche and Heidegger as well.  Hitler was into theater, so he understood catharsis well.

Japan is sufficiently "ethnically" uniform, they can better serve as a potential example of racial purity, than the Germans can.  But that very isolation and lack of creativity under the Tokugawas shoguns, is what led to their weakness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh5LY4Mz15o

Remember, I really really like Japan.  Just don't mess with them.

Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.