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Started by The Atheist, March 20, 2016, 05:30:27 AM

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pr126

Apparently there is Master race, and here is the proof:

Quran 3:110
Yusuf Ali: Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors.


Shiranu

The Japanese also love to kill themselves and consistently rank in the shit tier of happiness. Yeah, Japanese master race, wooooo....

Also, didn't you say in a previous thread your Japaneseness wasn't a big deal? Hmm...
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Shiranu

Quote from: pr126 on March 20, 2016, 11:55:28 AM
Apparently there is Master race, and here is the proof:

Quran 3:110
Yusuf Ali: Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors.



Jesus Christ... We could be discussing earth tectonics or the super bowl and you would find some way to turn it into "omg Muslims ahhhhhhhh...", wouldn't you?
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

drunkenshoe

First thing that comes up when you type 'Master Race' into Google.

QuoteThe master race (German: die Herrenrasse, das Herrenvolk (help. · info)) was a concept in Nazi ideology in which the Nordic raceâ€"a branch of what in late-nineteenth and early-twentieth century taxonomy was called the Aryan raceâ€"represented an ideal and pure race.

And this:

"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

TomFoolery

Quote from: Shiranu on March 20, 2016, 11:57:25 AM
Jesus Christ... We could be discussing earth tectonics or the super bowl and you would find some way to turn it into "omg Muslims ahhhhhhhh...", wouldn't you?

No segue too difficult. No soapbox too high.
How can you be sure my refusal to agree with your claim a symptom of my ignorance and not yours?

Baruch

Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on March 20, 2016, 11:20:58 AM
Big shock that someone of Japanese descent would think themselves superior. That thinking worked out great for Japan on  August  6, 1945 and there happens to be a neighbor of Japan who would like to slap down that Japanese arrogance and send you all right back to the sun where the emperor came from .. metaphorically speaking of course.
I have nothing against Japan, but you're not superior to anyone as a race and it could be argued that the arrogance makes you inferior.

But the Japanese were merely trying to be European, like the Germans ;-(
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Hydra009

Quote from: The Atheist on March 20, 2016, 05:30:27 AM
The PC answer is that race doesn't exist, which may true scientifically, but in reality it's not.
I've gotta say I find this idea that scientific truth can be brushed aside for personal ideology really fascinating.

"You know, scientists say that the solar system has only 8 planets, which may be true scientifically, but you know, the reality is that there are 13."

I already know you're trolling as best as you can, but damn, do you even listen to yourself?

Jack89

I think that certain groups have physical traits that are measurably different than others, and I think you could probably apply that to behavior as well.  Saying that, I thinks it would be extremely difficult to differentiate between nature and nurture as the cause of those behavioral differences.  Also, I think differences in members within the same ethnic group are probably greater that the differences between groups.

The Atheist - You say you perform better at school and seem to attribute that to your Japanese heritage.  OK, is that the way you were raised or do you think it's Japanese DNA?  Assuming it's the latter and we give you that, how does it stack up with your other traits such as athletic prowess, artistic expression, group dynamics, individual creativity, success with the ladies and so on?  How do you measure "better" when you take everything into consideration?

I'm a relatively big guy of primarily Northern European descent with just a touch of Middle Eastern and Indian (South Asia) DNA to spice things up.  I have brown hair, brown eyes, and olive skin.  I performed better than my peers in school and in the military.  I served in Spec Ops units with other exceptional soldiers, who happened to be from every ethnic group you can think of, some of them 1st generation immigrants.  Once we worked as a tight knit team for a while we all started performing and behaving much the same and our ethnic differences became unimportant.  We could be assholes at times, but our in-group was our unit, and the out-group was everyone else.  It didn't have a damn thing to do with DNA. 

mauricio

#23
I define racism as an unfounded belief that an individual just because of being race x must be y. Reporting on actual racial differences or correlations between race and another variable is not racism to me. And racial differences are actually shown to exist by science, what you meant probably is that racial subgroup have not being defined in the taxonomy of the homosapiens. But the process of the creation of the racial differences is well known it's basically the 70k-120k years of isolated human populations breeding in differents continents post early human migrations and pre invention of intercontinental travel and regular migration. This racial differences currently exist in a very smooth continuum so classifying the groups is subject of great debate.

The Atheist

Maybe I hold an incorrect view, but I feel strongly that career choice should be determined by race. Asians can focus on STEM areas, whites can focus on business and politics, and blacks can focus on entertainment and sports.
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TomFoolery

Quote from: The Atheist on March 20, 2016, 04:27:03 PM
Maybe I hold an incorrect view, but I feel strongly that career choice should be determined by race. Asians can focus on STEM areas, whites can focus on business and politics, and blacks can focus on entertainment and sports.

Or maybe you're just a troll who thinks he's found a niche as a resident pot-stirrer?

No rational person believes what you just said. You're just being a dick.
How can you be sure my refusal to agree with your claim a symptom of my ignorance and not yours?

Shiranu

#26
Quote from: The Atheist on March 20, 2016, 04:27:03 PM
Maybe I hold an incorrect view, but I feel strongly that career choice should be determined by race. Asians can focus on STEM areas, whites can focus on business and politics, and blacks can focus on entertainment and sports.

Lolwut.


Edit: As long as whites get to be pornstars as well, I'm game.

Edit Edit: I take it Latinos will be all the manual labour?


Edit Edit Edit: Also, what if you are of two or more races? Wut do?

Edit Edit Edit Edit: Do Middle Easterners count as Asian?

Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: What generation's interpretation of race are we using?

Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: Are Irish people white, since 60 years ago they weren't?


Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: I am part Italian, does that mean I can be a cook?


Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: My glove doesn't
fit.

Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: Will people be
forced to breed with people of their own race?

Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: White is too vague.


Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: What do North A
fricans fall under?

Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: What jobs will Native Americans have?


Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: Will Inuits be considered Native America?

Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: I don't think there are enough races to do the important jobs?
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Mermaid

Quote from: The Atheist on March 20, 2016, 04:27:03 PM
Maybe I hold an incorrect view, but I feel strongly that career choice should be determined by race. Asians can focus on STEM areas, whites can focus on business and politics, and blacks can focus on entertainment and sports.
Maybe?
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

drunkenshoe

Quote from: Shiranu on March 20, 2016, 05:06:19 PM
Lolwut.


Edit: As long as whites get to be pornstars as well, I'm game.

Edit Edit: I take it Latinos will be all the manual labour?


Edit Edit Edit: Also, what if you are of two or more races? Wut do?

Edit Edit Edit Edit: Do Middle Easterners count as Asian?

Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: What generation's interpretation of race are we using?

Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: Are Irish people white, since 60 years ago they weren't?


Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: I am part Italian, does that mean I can be a cook?


Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: My glove doesn't
fit.

Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: Will people be
forced to breed with people of their own race?

Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: White is too vague.


Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: What do North A
fricans fall under?

Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: What jobs will Native Americans have?


Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: Will Inuits be considered Native America?

Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit Edit: I don't think there are enough races to do the important jobs?


:rotflmao:




"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

aitm

Quote from: The Atheist on March 20, 2016, 04:27:03 PM
I feel strongly that career choice should be determined by race.

You are seriously saying that we should force people to follow certain careers based on their ethnicity?
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