Recent stuff involving Islam on the forum

[Baruch]

I can suffer from generalized misanthropy at times, but I don't hate anyone specifically.  I also don't hate historical people.  Telling the negative truth about historical people isn't hate, it is honesty.  If I were in WW II, I would probably hate Hitler, unless I was German ... but I wasn't alive then.  Had I been, I might not even be Jewish.  People who hate Muhammad are in the same boat ... Muhammad is dead already.  So easy to kick someone who is long dead ... they are definitely not getting up.  If one hates Trump ... I can understand that ... but it is better to hate what he represents.  Hating an individual or group (the Neanderthals who blindly follow Trump) ... distracts from the real enemy, which is the ideology.  And the ideology of ideology is the greatest enemy of all.  And besides, the greatest living enemy anyone has, is their own self.

I saw the bit on Sam Harris ... I have to disagree with him empirically (see prior post on Freudian/Lacan analysis of punishment) ... and I don't agree with his view on free will (whether that relates to punishment or not).  His deterministic relativism ... though it has pragmatic aspects for locking people up ... is too empathetic.  My empathy is because I can feel the evil in myself, and so I understand the evil in others.  Not because I can feel the innocence in myself, so I can understand the innocence in others.

[Draconic Aiur]

The human race has always been at war, never at peace.  The alternative to war profits,are war losses.  And war losses are very much worth avoiding.

This is the result of the League of Nations ... didn't end war, it brought on more war.

This is the result of the UN ... didn't end war, it brought on more war.

Mischaracterizing reality ... and then trying to act on this delusion ... is normal, but un-profitable.

But if we nuke syria, more war will come, more profit to your logic.

[Baruch]

But if we nuke syria, more war will come, more profit to your logic.

Only if we use neutron bombs.  Kills people, leaves valuable real estate and infrastructure intact.  But then the Germans caught onto this plan in the late 1970s ... and wouldn't let President Carter deploy them.

If your only value is profit, then you won't be Farengi, you will be Klingon.  Farengi only rip off trading partners, they don't kill them.

[Draconic Aiur]

hrmmmm why is this soo hard

[Baruch]

hrmmmm why is this soo hard

You can't decide which fictional alien race you want to be?

Or you just want to see big radioactive explosions ... nuclear arsonist?

[pr126]

Baruch wrote:

Only if we use neutron bombs.  Kills people, leaves valuable real estate and infrastructure intact.

valuable real estate and infrastructure?

[Baruch]

Not as valuable after the US and its allies got thru with it ... interfering in the Middle East since 1948 at least.  Just because those buildings are less valuable afterward ... doesn't mean they weren't valuable before they were knocked down.  But face it ... the US considers money and technology to solve any and every problem.  But if you know your Genesis ... this is the product of the descendants of Cain ... the first murderer.

[pr126]

this is the product of the descendants of Cain ... the first murderer.

Whom did Cain marry?

[Baruch]

Whom did Cain marry?

The nephelim of course.  The genealogy of the demons ... is not related in the Bible.  Also the attempt to get rid of the fallen angels in the Noachic flood, clearly failed.  But then G-d is clearly not intelligent.

[Draconic Aiur]

i am a pyro you know

[Baruch]

i am a pyro you know

Good.  Seraphim are angels of fire ... cherublm are angels of an ill wind ;-)  If they get married, they produce children ... of hot air ;-))

[Draconic Aiur]

Good.  Seraphim are angels of fire ... cherublm are angels of an ill wind ;-)  If they get married, they produce children ... of hot air ;-))

wat

[aitm]

wat

LOL, you'll find the threads are easier to read, flow better, and are more organized if you just skip his posts.

[Baruch]

LOL, you'll find the threads are easier to read, flow better, and are more organized if you just skip his posts.

Yes, I am a Vandal ... but not very German.  The echo chamber bothers me ;-)

[josephpalazzo]

In later years, Spock became a diplomat, hence more reasonable, less logical, and more human. Maybe his half-human side took over his other half-Vulcan side...;-)