Muslims demanded establishment of an Islamic state in Britain

[josephpalazzo]

on the same day that jihadists went on bloody rampage through Paris.

Great timing...

As jihadists rampaged through Paris on Friday night, radical panellists at a Muslim debate in Britain reportedly told of the duty to establish an Islamic state.

Speakers at the Quiz A Muslim event in Bedford included Taji Mustafah, of radical Islamic organisation Hizb-ut Tahrir, and Moazzem Begg, a former Guantanamo Bay inmate and founder of campaign group Cage, whose director called Jihadi John a ‘beautiful young man’.

The panellists said that there is an ‘Islamic’ duty to ‘struggle’ for an ‘Islamic state’, as 132 were executed in shootings and suicide bombings.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3319941/Radical-panellists-event-demand-establishment-Islamic-State.html

[Sal1981]

'On the flip side none of them have broken any laws.’

I doubt they intend to keep it that way.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Always get second sources for Daily Mail article.

Then make them first sources.

Then remove the Daily Mail source.

[mauricio]

Always get second sources for Daily Mail article.

Then make them first sources.

Then remove the Daily Mail source.

archive.is guys learn to use it, fuck all those shitty articles from breitbart , salon , huffpost or whatever. I only post original links to decent articles to properly reward them with traffic and archive all the shitty articles.

BTW i do not doubt at all that was indeed said we are talking about an openly Islamist organization and fucking CAGE that has tons of disingenuous apologist speakers.

[josephpalazzo]

Always get second sources for Daily Mail article.

Then make them first sources.

Then remove the Daily Mail source.

I suppose this is also a fabrication?1?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fST0Vmyim44&feature=youtu.be&t=12m56s

[Baruch]

The British have been lax before regarding criminal speech at mosques in GB.  So it is possible.  Can't the people who were supposed to have spoken there, be interrogated?  If they confirm what this ... source ... says, then I would say they are guilty of sedition.  And if guilty of sedition, then severe penalties need to be applied according to their citizenship.

Whether Shariah can be optionally used in family court in Britain ... I have no idea.  Jonb could have posted on that, but he was discouraged from posting further.  In the US there is no question, that Shariah in family court should not be allowed, since we don't allow Bantustans in the US, unless you are Native American ;-)

[The Skeletal Atheist]

But guys....guys....did you know Christians do bad things as well? And the west!

[josephpalazzo]

But guys....guys....did you know Christians do bad things as well? And the west!

Yes, and when Christians do bad things, we expose them as well. This forum is awash with threads criticizing Christians and their twisted versions of the world. But why is it when a thread exposes Islam and its evilness, some people here, presumably atheists or non-believers, have this urge to defend Islam? Why? Why? Why?

[The Skeletal Atheist]

Yes, and when Christians do bad things, we expose them as well. This forum is awash with threads criticizing Christians and their twisted versions of the world. But why is it when a thread exposes Islam and its evilness, some people here, presumably atheists or non-believers, have this urge to defend Islam? Why? Why? Why?

Did you miss my sarcasm or are you asking a serious question? I also would like to know as well how people here can defend a homophobic, sexist ideology and the people who happily follow that ideology to the t.

[josephpalazzo]

Did you miss my sarcasm or are you asking a serious question. I would like to know as well how people here can defend a homophobic, sexist ideology and the people who happily follow that ideology to the t.

My bad, I didn't pick up your sarcasm. My apologies.

[The Skeletal Atheist]

My bad, I didn't pick up your sarcasm. My apologies.

It's all good, I should have dumbed down my response a bit, but then again that may have been an even more effective poe.

[Baruch]

Islam as politics ... not my cut of tea.  Politically I am neither liberal nor conservative.  I have a problem with both capitalism and socialism.

I am fond of this website, because it is not religiously partisan ;-)  It is genuinely skeptical of religion in general, not just the other guy's religion.

Islam as religion ... I am tolerant of how other people live, I am not an SJW.  I am traditional, not progressive.

So by not chasing my tail in a circle while yapping loudly ... I am an Islamic apologist?

Self skepticism, is hard for both theists and atheists.  I don't get my hopes up ;-)

[GrinningYMIR]

It's all good, I should have dumbed down my response a bit, but then again that may have been an even more effective poe.

Because antiislam is taken as "pro western imperialism" a lot here

And alarmist

And racist

Religion isn't a race

[Jack89]

I am truly afraid for Europe when it comes to Islam.  It's not that I think Islam is inherently evil, it's that it's resolute and unyielding in it's desire to be the dominant culture wherever it goes.  A lot of western European countries seem to have adopted a politically correct, tolerate stance on Islam, and Muslims seem to be taking advantage of the perceived weakness.

The few Europeans who I've talked to recently here in the states, especially Germans, have little national or cultural pride which I imagine is a convenient vacuum for Islam to fill.  When I was younger, Brits were such a proud people, approaching on arrogance.  Whatever happened to that national esteem?

If ya'll are comfortable with adopting sharia law in your attempt to be all inclusive, hey, go for it.  I'm going to try to put up a little more resistance here in the states.

[facebook164]

For fuck sakes: a tiny tiny group of people did this. Not "muslims".