In Case You Thought Religion Makes Society Less Violent

[peacewithoutgod]

Thank you but I would rather die before listening to any man on this earth before learning from the bible. Man can only give you what he has learned from the mistakes he has made. Then what. What about all the things that he doesn't know. My friend you are lost and looking for answers from people on this earth in which they can not satisfy your longing. The difference between you and I is huge. I have found my answer to life and am now trying to apply them. You are still looking for truth. Good luck with that.

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I simply cannot imagine a more stupid statement than that!

What you fail to understand is the fact that "listen to any man" is exactly what you do  men when you "listen" to your bible! Every single word in it was written by another mortal, and they really weren't worth much of anyone's attention (even in their own day), with their ideas on incest, rape, genocide, filicide, weird and gory sacrifice, child sacrifice, child abuse, brutal, unnecessary and unhealthy treatment of infant boys, slavery, insensible, cruel and brutal homophobia, shameful misogyny, and disgusting treatment (including gory capital punishment) of women just for being women. How can you really be so shallow-minded to think it's even possible that these so-called "inspired" men were inspired by anybody better than themselves when they wrote that shit! They were just men like you and I, who happened to be too ambitious or too desperate to allow honest ethics to get in their way of finding a place for themselves in their world. That's really all there was to it other than the common theme of them being Jews, proto-Jewish Hebrews, or Jesus people, all appealing more or less to the same god, just as all the works which Zoroastrians were inspired to write were about Zoroaster and the culture which follows him, and the Buddhist writings are of Buddha and his culture. Thereby you get a big collection of books all writing of the same deity because it was a popular one with millions of people for thousands of years, d'UHHHHH!!! You have no idea just how many other books were written because they weren't selected for the compilation, nor how much culling and editing had to be done to make the relative few which they eventually settled with appear as consistent as they are. Any fourth grade student who isn't afraid to look hard at it would notice these inconsistencies, they being on factive data and moral code.

[g2perk]

I can't believe you are actually postulating that a child's death can ever be a positive impact, just because it gives the grieving parent sympathy for another grieving parent!!! Are you that desperate for justification?

Ask yourself this, Perky: did you really come here to save me from a life without Jesus, or to have me save you from a life with him?

I love this....don't change my words you know exactly what I meant. No death is positive. Now if you can save me please by all means do. Tell me something beneficial about your self that I can emulate.

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[g2perk]

So much waste over a fictional character. Get a fucking life, moron.

Josh....in Proverbs 14:15 it says the simple believes everything but the prudent gives thought to all his steps.

Which one are you?

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[peacewithoutgod]

I really see that you don't understand the bible. By the way it's written by men but inspire by God which no other book on this earth can say. And please give me just one error the BIBLE has that YOU found and I'll be more that happy to explain it to... Now don't cheat and Google anything. I want to test your knowledge of you have any. And by the way Because I see how illiterate you are when it comes to scripture. A parable is a earthly experience with a spiritual meaning...I sorry maybe that's too deep. Lol.

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Now you're getting much too cocky, Youngster. I happen to know that of you by the way you misarticulate yourself, your intellectual simplicity, and the fact that you are arrogant enough to think you can win here when older evangelists would tell you to avoid us (not to generalize on the younger generation, whose brilliant presence I recognize here). You have no way to prove what you claim, and what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without it. You have nothing to contribute here, you've been called out on that fact, and now it's time for you to quit digging.

You cannot write off the atrocities committed in cultures of the past as "parables". While the vast majority of the events in the bible didn't happen at all, its stories reflected real cultures (they were written by real people), therefore the violent warts on them were very real too - true or not, the stories reflected the values (and lack of them) which its people  held. What does that mean? What else other than the fact that their ideas were no less contemporary than ours, and certainly no better, including what they had to say on society and any deities. They never talked to your god, and he never talked to them, but that fact didn't stop them from using the idea that this happened for their own empowerment with their people.

[Solomon Zorn]

Ok. As for as Judas it was 30 not 50. The two deaths are the same just told by two different authors. Just like all of the gospels they all talk about the life of Jesus in a different manor some having more details than the other. Did you get that he died in both accounts.. Good then the point was made. The money was used to buy the land in which he killed himself called now the field of blood.

Horseshit, and you know it. One account says he threw the money into the temple and went and hanged himself, the other account says he bought a field with the money, and fell in it, and burst open. They are irreconcilable. Are you being dishonest, or are you now contending that the Bible is not infallible?

[Solomon Zorn]

Now for the most important one. Remember John was the one that was the closest to Jesus on the cross and the others were a little further back. So again the different gospels are what each disciple recounted. I would go with what John said because he was the only one that heard it from the mouth of Jesus.

At least you admit that their accounts are fallible then. And so which other parts are incorrect as well?

[g2perk]

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Now you're getting much too cocky, Youngster. I happen to know that of you by the way you misarticulate yourself, your intellectual simplicity, and the fact that you are arrogant enough to think you can win here when older evangelists would tell you to avoid us (not to generalize on the younger generation, whose brilliant presence I recognize here). You have no way to prove what you claim, and what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without it. You have nothing to contribute here, you've been called out on that fact, and now it's time for you to quit digging.

You cannot write off the atrocities committed in cultures of the past as "parables". While the vast majority of the events in the bible didn't happen at all, its stories reflected real cultures (they were written by real people), therefore the violent warts on them were very real too - true or not, the stories reflected the values (and lack of them) which its people  held. What does that mean? What else other than the fact that their ideas were no less contemporary than ours, and certainly no better, including what they had to say on society and any deities. They never talked to your god, and he never talked to them, but that fact didn't stop them from using the idea that this happened for their own empowerment with their people.

I in the right place and simple is the only way to be. I don't have impress you with words just put them in your ear. If you are an older person and think you are more knowledgeable because of it then your sadly mistaken. I don't have to address all of life's atrocities to understand the bible. It has stories in it to show people like you that no one is perfect and anyone can change for the better. You look at the bible with your piercing eye just as the Jews Jesus. Always looking to discredit what you can make out. That's what cowards do. Forget the people in the bible and there names what does the story tell you about evil people and there wicked hearts. The real story is about one man standing up to an enemy that beloved he had more power than him here on earth,and with perseverance defeated the enemy. It is meant to encourage not discourage. People like you that has been hurt by life's struggles and can't get back on your feet want everyone else to suffer with you....sorry. Not everyone here is weak.

By the way you want proof that GOD exists ok then look in the mirror and see what GOD created. Then go ask your scientists if they can duplicate you..not clone you but make another just like you...no degree in the world can match the wisdom of my GOD.   

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[peacewithoutgod]

At least you admit that their accounts are fallible then. And so which other parts are incorrect as well?

Bbbbutt, it was God who wrote it all, and He doesn't make mistakes!  :57:

[Solomon Zorn]

I in the right place and simple is the only way to be. I don't have impress you with words just put them in your ear. If you are an older person and think you are more knowledgeable because of it then your sadly mistaken. I don't have to address all of life's atrocities to understand the bible. It has stories in it to show people like you that no one is perfect and anyone can change for the better. You look at the bible with your piercing eye just as the Jews Jesus. Always looking to discredit what you can make out. That's what cowards do. Forget the people in the bible and there names what does the story tell you about evil people and there wicked hearts. The real story is about one man standing up to an enemy that beloved he had more power than him here on earth,and with perseverance defeated the enemy. It is meant to encourage not discourage. People like you that has been hurt by life's struggles and can't get back on your feet want everyone else to suffer with you....sorry. Not everyone here is weak.

By the way you want proof that GOD exists ok then look in the mirror and see what GOD created. Then go ask your scientists if they can duplicate you..not clone you but make another just like you...no degree in the world can match the wisdom of my GOD.

My conclusion is that you are hopelessly deluded, and there is no further reason to entertain your bullshit.

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[peacewithoutgod]

I in the right place and simple is the only way to be. I don't have impress you with words just put them in your ear. If you are an older person and think you are more knowledgeable because of it then your sadly mistaken. I don't have to address all of life's atrocities to understand the bible. It has stories in it to show people like you that no one is perfect and anyone can change for the better. You look at the bible with your piercing eye just as the Jews Jesus. Always looking to discredit what you can make out. That's what cowards do. Forget the people in the bible and there names what does the story tell you about evil people and there wicked hearts. The real story is about one man standing up to an enemy that beloved he had more power than him here on earth,and with perseverance defeated the enemy. It is meant to encourage not discourage. People like you that has been hurt by life's struggles and can't get back on your feet want everyone else to suffer with you....sorry. Not everyone here is weak.

By the way you want proof that GOD exists ok then look in the mirror and see what GOD created. Then go ask your scientists if they can duplicate you..not clone you but make another just like you...no degree in the world can match the wisdom of my GOD.   

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There you go, using your own book to defend your own book - very, very circular of you again - GAWD, how do you not get too dizzy to see straight? Oh...that explains why you cannot! We are the weak, and you are the strong - just keep clinging to that mental raft, hold on for dear life, and don't let go!

[g2perk]

My conclusion is that you are hopelessly deluded, and there is no further reason to entertain your bullshit.

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Well that means a lot to me....[emoji3]

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[g2perk]

Hey guys on a serious note I an learning a lot from you guys..It won't change who I am but thanks for not kicking me off the site. Maybe we can discuss what we have in common one day.

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[peacewithoutgod]

Well that means a lot to me....[emoji3]

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If an atheist thinks you're wrong, than that automatically makes you right?

What works so well about your religion the way you practice it is that it is completely unassailable, owing to the absolute status which you give it. You cannot question it, and you will never test its teachings, and because it is logically unfalsifiable (as are pink unicorns) nobody can disprove the veracity of your beliefs. Just hold tight behind that full armor of your god and you will never go wrong, even if you never go right either. Is it really the armor that protects you, or is it the walls of a sensory deprivation chamber which isolates you?

[Solomon Zorn]

Hey guys on a serious note I an learning a lot from you guys..It won't change who I am but thanks for not kicking me off the site. Maybe we can discuss what we have in common one day.

I doubt it. If you can name something that you've learned, I'll be surprised. One thing you haven't learned, young Christian, is how to reason. That's going to be necessary to some extent, or you will get kicked off. And I won't miss you, because your not just a moron, you're an arrogant moron, who condescends to preach the Word to the poor weak atheists.

[g2perk]

I doubt it. If you can name something that you've learned, I'll be surprised. One thing you haven't learned, young Christian, is how to reason. That's going to be necessary to some extent, or you will get kicked off. And I won't miss you, because your not just a moron, you're an arrogant moron, who condescends to preach the Word to the poor weak atheists.

I have learned that your atheism is not about hatred in other people like most Christians believe but oddly enough about right vs wrong and having proof to back any statement. Now as for as you go Old man I ask if you to stop with the derogatory comments about me. That makes you seem very ignorant and poor.

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