In Case You Thought Religion Makes Society Less Violent

[g2perk]

Funny..How easy is it for you dismiss what you don't understand. Don't you think it's odd that you say you have read the entire bible and it seems like your proud of it but yet you still do not understand one word... My friend the bible was meant for Believers only to understand truly.

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[peacewithoutgod]

Funny..How easy is it for you dismiss what you don't understand. Don't you think it's odd that you say you have read the entire bible and it seems like your proud of it but yet you still do not understand one word... My friend the bible was meant for Believers only to understand truly.

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Oh, I get it - you have to believe it first, before you've even read it? How very interesting your faith is indeed! Can't imagine why so many young people, being the smartest generation ever born on this earth would be leaving ideas such as that behind them.

[g2perk]

Yes, That is the only way. How simple is that right. Confess all of your sins before Jesus Christ and ask that He come into your life. I look at it this way, if all of the work I have put into this life still doesn't fulfill me what harm can it do to ask God to help me....But remember this is for those of us that need help from someone greater than ourselves unless we think too highly of ourselves.

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[peacewithoutgod]

Yes, That is the only way. How simple is that right. Confess all of your sins before Jesus Christ and ask that He come into your life. I look at it this way, if all of the work I have put into this life still doesn't fulfill me what harm can it do to ask God to help me....But remember this is for those of us that need help from someone greater than ourselves unless we think too highly of ourselves.

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You have to believe first what the bible says before you ever see what the bible says.
You have to believe first what the bible says before you ever see what the bible says.
You have to believe first what the bible says before you ever see what the bible says.

Ok, I've made up my mind - unbelievable as it is, I've made up my mind and decided that I'm gonna believe! I just need to talk to Jesus, who will convince me that it's true so that I can really be a believer, ok.

Hello, Jesus, I want you to come into my life because I really want to believe in you, but for every good reason I just can't right now...

Why doesn't he pick up the line for that?

I have to be a believer first, and nobody seems to be reading my email at Jesus's address - I guess they don't want to help you with your training for the job vacancies they need to fill. Therefore, I guess the only way for me to get in is pretend I believe it all, so that I can be made to believe it for real later. It's called lying, but there isn't a commandment against that, so I guess it's ok.

I believe in you, Jesus!
I believe in you, Jesus!
I believe in you, Jesus!

Now, please take control of my life - that's my whole life, my whole mind too, including that part which old poets called the heart, plus my soul and my spirit as well (just in case there's a difference between those two, which were slyly replaced by the word "mind" by early biologists who didn't want to offend their theocratic rulers)! Take my wallet too. Make me a believer, and make me your personal slave, so that at least I won't burn over Satan's barbeque pit for all eternity (which they say is for a very, very long time although they can't really quantify it in any precise terms). I know I deserve to be tortured in the most barbaric manner imaginable because I committed the sin of being born (born in sin, so guilty am I, maybe I jacked off some while still in the womb), but I trust you to forgive me.

I believe.
I believe!
I BELIEVE!!!

Oh, fuck it - Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, BEETLEJUICE!!!

See, I did give it a try (again), but alas, no magic and no miracle! You can go on telling yourself you believe when you really know better, but if you really deserve to experience one more good day on this one and only world where life like ours is known, much less paradise in some better place, then you should be making like me and demanding better ideas than that. No god would have given you that awesome, capable lump of pudding between your ears so that you could waste it on the nonsense you spout here!

[SGOS]

Based on what I've read in the Protestant New Testament, if you claim to be a Christian, but you don't feed the hungry, aid the widows, or visit those in prison, and just live a self-centered life, you'll go to Hell just like any nonbeliever. Basically, God does not give free tickets to Heaven to whoever joins his son's fan club; you have to prove your faith by being the most decent human being possible.

This depends on which Christian sect you belong to.  In some sects, believing in Jesus is all you need, and that particular notion seems to be strongest among Protestants.  In other sects, you must supplement that belief with good works.

If you look at religion strictly by what it teaches, almost all of them advocate peace and charity.

They also teach bigotry and violence. Some of the most vile and reprehensible hate speech I've heard recently is from Christian and Muslim leaders, and if hate speech were outlawed, they would demand an exemption because it would violate their religious freedoms.
 

[peacewithoutgod]

Yeah, Xtain peace and charity is only for the other Xtains who agree with those who can give it, or to the meek and trodden down (those who are only in a position to stroke their frail egos). Otherwise they add their own, and deepest dimensions to brutish tribalism.

[Hydra009]

The real proof that GOD lives is not in any secular minds or educational facilities, the proof is in the man that walks and lives his life with the mind set of Pleasing GOD not man.

"Pity not the blind man, for he is hindered not by the visions of this world, but rather pity yourselves, for he will see the light before you do."

[Baruch]

To all, Religious people are the ones to blame for everything wrong today. Now Religion is the only way to find GOD but more importantly a Relationship with Him is what changes ones mind..

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A relationship beyond your own ego, is what changes people.  This is called growing up.  Babies are egomaniacs.  Of course a relationship with a personal god can do this ... provided your god has gotten past the baby Jesus stage ;-)

[SGOS]

I loved this series.  What a wonderful commentary on religion, especially Christianity.  The first couple of years are not that strong, and then the episodes just keep getting stronger and more thoughtful right up until the last season.  One of my favorites is when SG1 zaps one of the Ori Priors with the frequency machine that takes away his powers, and then they start baiting him.  He responds by babbling some nonsense from the Book of Origin, so they point out his fallacious reasoning, and he babbles more scripture, which they debunk, so he keeps responding with religious gibberish, almost as if he's oblivious to reason, or better yet, like he can't even understand that he is being shown what a fool he is.  It was just like some of the fundies that show up around here.  And all the gibberish sounded like it came straight out of the Bible.  It was like the writers were committed to exposing the folly of all religion.

[g2perk]

You have to believe first what the bible says before you ever see what the bible says.
You have to believe first what the bible says before you ever see what the bible says.
You have to believe first what the bible says before you ever see what the bible says.

Ok, I've made up my mind - unbelievable as it is, I've made up my mind and decided that I'm gonna believe! I just need to talk to Jesus, who will convince me that it's true so that I can really be a believer, ok.

Hello, Jesus, I want you to come into my life because I really want to believe in you, but for every good reason I just can't right now...

Why doesn't he pick up the line for that?

I have to be a believer first, and nobody seems to be reading my email at Jesus's address - I guess they don't want to help you with your training for the job vacancies they need to fill. Therefore, I guess the only way for me to get in is pretend I believe it all, so that I can be made to believe it for real later. It's called lying, but there isn't a commandment against that, so I guess it's ok.

I believe in you, Jesus!
I believe in you, Jesus!
I believe in you, Jesus!

Now, please take control of my life - that's my whole life, my whole mind too, including that part which old poets called the heart, plus my soul and my spirit as well (just in case there's a difference between those two, which were slyly replaced by the word "mind" by early biologists who didn't want to offend their theocratic rulers)! Take my wallet too. Make me a believer, and make me your personal slave, so that at least I won't burn over Satan's barbeque pit for all eternity (which they say is for a very, very long time although they can't really quantify it in any precise terms). I know I deserve to be tortured in the most barbaric manner imaginable because I committed the sin of being born (born in sin, so guilty am I, maybe I jacked off some while still in the womb), but I trust you to forgive me.

I believe.
I believe!
I BELIEVE!!!

Oh, fuck it - Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, BEETLEJUICE!!!

See, I did give it a try (again), but alas, no magic and no miracle! You can go on telling yourself you believe when you really know better, but if you really deserve to experience one more good day on this one and only world where life like ours is known, much less paradise in some better place, then you should be making like me and demanding better ideas than that. No god would have given you that awesome, capable lump of pudding between your ears so that you could waste it on the nonsense you spout here!

Maybe if you really knew what the word believe means things would work out for you..

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[g2perk]

A relationship beyond your own ego, is what changes people.  This is called growing up.  Babies are egomaniacs.  Of course a relationship with a personal god can do this ... provided your god has gotten past the baby Jesus stage ;-)

I thought that is what I said. A real relationship changes people. Where does ego come into play.

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[g2perk]

I loved this series.  What a wonderful commentary on religion, especially Christianity.  The first couple of years are not that strong, and then the episodes just keep getting stronger and more thoughtful right up until the last season.  One of my favorites is when SG1 zaps one of the Ori Priors with the frequency machine that takes away his powers, and then they start baiting him.  He responds by babbling some nonsense from the Book of Origin, so they point out his fallacious reasoning, and he babbles more scripture, which they debunk, so he keeps responding with religious gibberish, almost as if he's oblivious to reason, or better yet, like he can't even understand that he is being shown what a fool he is.  It was just like some of the fundies that show up around here.  And all the gibberish sounded like it came straight out of the Bible.  It was like the writers were committed to exposing the folly of all religion.

How can anyone like you expose the folly of believing in GOD or the bible....Please Please explain that to me. All you can do is disagree

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[g2perk]

"Pity not the blind man, for he is hindered not by the visions of this world, but rather pity yourselves, for he will see the light before you do."

Good then maybe he can explain it to you..

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[Baruch]

A similar show but more dark ....
Earth Final Conflict

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej7yJrmPXxY

[peacewithoutgod]

Maybe if you really knew what the word believe means things would work out for you..

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What does it mean, oh Enlightened One? How do you serve that belief in your word salad?

HINT: Belief isn't something you do, and it isn't synonymous with blind faith! It also doesn't mean humbly switching off your bullshit radar and blindly accepting your nonsense so that you will stop being such a PIA. I know people like you - I was raised among you, and I know how you have that switchbox running in your head which is constantly changing tracks whenever pressed on faith, belief, and repentance, as if they were all the same, which they are certainly not. If I had the sort of wrongs which you call "sin" which I needed to be forgiven of, I could only add to my list by wasting another minute of my life in the company of your idiot groups. Another favorite tactic by which you distract your target from the smell of your bullshit is by putting the onus on the same, with the ridiculous argument that belief is a "choice" which he must make - much like it's a choice for me to believe that red is blue. You'll have to do better than any of this shit with me, or stop wasting my time!