Don't Crucify the Messenger

[Mike Cl]

I grow very tired of this game, always trying to explain the minor points to someone who is a cocoon of bias and self-righteousness. You gotta know when to hold'em and know when to fold'em. As predicted, I fold. Again, congratulations.

I would suggest you fold time and again is because your ideas are as solid as Swiss cheese.  And I am the one who is in a cocoon of self-righteousness?  Okay.  Maybe you should stand in front of a mirror when you say that.  You have airy-fairy beliefs and because I cannot see them as you do, you get angry.  And you don't seem to be able to articulate them very well, and you get defensive because of your failure.  Okay.  Many, many theists are like that.  The majority that come through here are like that.  You believe in puff and smoke and become indigent when others cannot see anything solid.  That's okay.  Go play in another sandbox.  BTW, what did you expect from an atheist forum?  Do you think we are simply misguided and are awaiting a silver-tongued one such as yourself who can pull our blinders off?  Might I suggest you take your blinders off first.   

[aitm]

I grow very tired of this game, always trying to explain the minor points to someone who is a cocoon of bias and self-righteousness. You gotta know when to hold'em and know when to fold'em. As predicted, I fold. Again, congratulations.

You are arguing in favor of stupidity and wonder why we refuse to agree? You fold again, because stupidity has no foundation but ignorance. And ignorance will always wilt in the face of knowledge and reason.

[Mike Cl]

You miss the point because of, I suppose, your issue with belief. Before an idea can become material, you have to believe it a possibility.

That is what I said.  Are you blind as well as willfully ignorant????!

[Baruch]

Well, they're paid a salary. Wouldn't you agree that's an improvement...

World leaders have always been well compensated ;-(  Every military has had at least subsistence ... and usually better.  A Roman legionary was paid twice what a regular laborer was paid.

[josephpalazzo]

I grow very tired of this game, always trying to explain the minor points ...

Oh poor you, just when we were having fun kicking your ass. Now go to mommy and cry me a river.

[josephpalazzo]

World leaders have always been well compensated ;-(  Every military has had at least subsistence ... and usually better.  A Roman legionary was paid twice what a regular laborer was paid.

In pre-historic times, the leader would wear a hat, or some kind of ornaments that distinguished him from the other members of the tribe. It came with the territory of being the boss.

[Baruch]

... the rest of the story.  The rank and file suggested that hat ... so that the first casualty might be the boss ;-)  Generally the second in command was most enthusiastic ... and short sighted ;-))

[josephpalazzo]

... the rest of the story.  The rank and file suggested that hat ... so that the first casualty might be the boss ;-)  Generally the second in command was most enthusiastic ... and short sighted ;-))

So you're saying that the rank and file acted cowardly...

[Baruch]

So you're saying that the rank and file acted cowardly...

No, just disloyal to asshats.  Stone Age fragging.

[josephpalazzo]

No, just disloyal to asshats.  Stone Age fragging.

Being disloyal isn't cowardly if you say that you are disloyal openly. If you keep that as a secret agenda, it is cowardly.

[Mike Cl]

Being disloyal isn't cowardly if you say that you are disloyal openly. If you keep that as a secret agenda, it is cowardly.

Or maybe smart.

[josephpalazzo]

Or maybe smart.

Not really. Smart is the ability to see the threshold between brave/reckless and coward/prudent.

[Mike Cl]

Not really. Smart is the ability to see the threshold between brave/reckless and coward/prudent.

Isn't there such a thing as biding your time?

[josephpalazzo]

Isn't there such a thing as biding your time?

It's one factor out of many.

[popsthebuilder]

How did Moses' detailed instructions on how to sacrifice animals better humanity?

It was misconstrued. Sacrifice is to be of want for self(sin/greed). Killing innocent things for the actions of the guilty was never the right way.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.