Drinking a cup of tea can add plausible evidence God exists

[Davka]

I notice the OP likes to create these threads and then abandon them. Perhaps he finds himself unable to defend his theses?

I offer gentle mockery and a big, fat "LO-O-O-O-O-O-O-OSER!" in his general direction.  

[overlord fombax]

*logs in after several-week absence*

*laughs hysterically at OP*

*vanishes into the night*

[Poison Tree]

*logs in after several-week absence*

*laughs hysterically at OP*

*vanishes into the night*

who was that masked man?

[Colanth]

I notice the OP likes to create these threads and then abandon them. Perhaps he finds himself unable to defend his theses?

"Perhaps" is a wonton waste of pixels.  Those of us who have been here for a while know that it's the truth.  Faced with a fact that he finds uncomfortable, he either ignores the post or claims that the fact isn't a fact.  Since most posts in his threads contradict his ideas, he ignores most of them, to the point of eventually abandoning the threads.

[Farroc]

I believe that you may be unaware of just how complex the human brain actually is. We humans on planet Earth only just recently passed the point at which the total computing power of every single computer in the world combined equals the computing power of a single human brain. Add to this the fact that the human brain stores data in a "holographic" manner, and you have a level of complexity that we cannot really comprehend.

What's meant by "holographic" memory is that a specific memory is not stored in a specific neuron or set of neurons, but is rather distributed throughout the brain in such a way that the information would still exist if part of the brain were removed. Every part of the brain contains a 'fuzzy' image of the information contained by the whole. It's a kind of computing that we haven't even gotten close to designing. There are over 200 billion neurons in your brain, and each neuron is connected to between 5,000 and 20,000 other neurons. And the impulses that travel between neurons are regulated by dozens of different factors, which can be arranged in hundreds of different ways. Our brains aren't running on a string of ones and zeros like a computer, they are instead running on a myriad of different types of electro-chemical impulses, more like an alphabet or a language than simple binary.

That consciousness should be an emergent property of such unbelievable complexity is hardly surprising.

The question "what am I" is far more complex than the simplistic answer "you are a meat computer." You're more than that, and yet less. You are a by-product of complexity. You are a process which is dependent on a meat-computer to run, because no other computer could possibly run such a process.

What this means is that consciousness is amazing, breathtaking, and mind-boggling. What it doesn't mean is "therefore God."

The only good post in this entire thread. He actually answered the question, and he wasn't a complete ass like some of you guys.

[Bibliofagus]

The only good post in this entire thread. He actually answered the question, and he wasn't a complete ass like some of you guys.

The worst post in this thread. Congrats.

First of all...
What question? MR actually asked us a genuine question?
Please link me.

Also: You may want to reread the thread. Reimu is always worth reading for instance.

Furthermore: Stromboli and Hydra and others in this thread are usually very patient with people who come over here. As they have been with MR.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

The only good post in this entire thread. He actually answered the question, and he wasn't a complete ass like some of you guys.

Oh we are sorry Lord of the internet.

Your extensive time here certainly has warranted you being able to tell us how to reply to members who have a clear track record of hitting and running from actual debates they pretend to want to have when they come up against any sort of resistance.

Still, you've certainly put us in our place...whoever you are.

[Hydra009]

Also: You may want to reread the thread. Reimu is always worth reading for instance.

Yeah.  Reimu made some good points, imho.  It's a shame they were wasted on the intended recipient.

Furthermore: Stromboli and Hydra and others in this thread are usually very patient with people who come over here. As they have been with MR.

Yep.  Up until about the umpteenth time I read the same terrible arguments filled with terrible logic and the same troll-and-run pattern.  Then I get a little fed up.

Here is the profound argument we are supposed to seriously consider:



Frankly, I'm surprised he got as many serious responses as he did.

[GurrenLagann]

The only good post in this entire thread.

Bullocks. There have been quite a good number of responses to MR.

He actually answered the question, and he wasn't a complete ass like some of you guys.

Bull. I answered the question(s) on the first page via critique, like several others, and not everyone was an ass. Not that some others being an ass (which I don't necessarily like all the time) in any way makes their criticism therefore poor.

[WitchSabrina]

The only good post in this entire thread.

Bullocks. There have been quite a good number of responses to MR.

He actually answered the question, and he wasn't a complete ass like some of you guys.

Bull. I answered the question(s) on the first page via critique, like several others, and not everyone was an ass. Not that some others being an ass (which I don't necessarily like all the time) in any way makes their criticism therefore poor.

I was patient with MR when he first arrived......... patient for about 2 pages until I figured out he was not going to respond to honest, legitimate questions.  MR wishes to steer/manipulate any/all conversation to suit his goals; ignoring some wonderful debates (not from me) from members here.   I've come to the conclusion that MR drops these innocuous bombs of theist-bewilderment upon us to watch us twirl and swirl.......especially rail against one another as this thread and several others before has surely proven.  He pretends a puzzlement as though he's interested in input when truly he seeks to just fluster members here.  
LOL
So..........anyone who thinks they have just cause to question the integrity of members here having shown sharply targeted responses to our theist-troll-bomber of insidious crap...  well, they've just not been around enough to experience the width, length and wealth of bullshit MR is prepared to squander here.

For...........what IS exactly the proper response to walls of text of completely  treacherous, deceitful, uninteresting tripe?
How is this man any different than Stupid Dave who twirled us all with tales of Noah's Ark and his **proof**?

MR offers us



time and time and time again.....................   and again.

[St Giordano Bruno]

This is a bad as a Goldilocks argument for God: This tea is too hot, no God. This tea is too cold, no God. This tea is just right, God exists.

[VaasMontenegro]

Some of you may me startled by the title, but it is indeed true. And i specify below exactly why. The sure-fire way to convince me to become an atheist (something i will never rule out, although deism would be my preferred standard option) would be to refute the below.

From my own blog , so this is not copy-pasted(in case someone runs a search).
http://scientificphilosopher.wordpress. ... rstand-it/


One of the most puzzling aspects of trying to fully understand our brain is that of human consciousness .We speak , we think, we feel, we understand, we strategize – and much of this is shared with animals. The remarkably puzzling thing is, what part in us exactly 'feels' the pain?

Some can rightly assert that the stimulus is detected by a sense organs receptor, and by a nervous pathway travels to the brain where it processes everything, and then produces a response (the brain is by-passed in a reflex response). This explanation would be an accurate explanation had the question been titled "how do we detect our environment". This simply explains how our body detects and processes stimuli, but it does not explain what part 'feels' any of it.

Consider a mildly warm tea cup. Perhaps you are sitting on your sofa on a lazy sunday morning, sipping tea – or coffee – and the mild warm sensation of the gently flowing down your throat can be felt.  We can easily explain how the warm tea is detected. We can explain what part of the brain it is processed. However, what is the 'raw' feeling of warm tea being swallowed?

If you touch a fire, the reflex response and what happens on the basic cellular level can be understood, but that's simply neurotransmitters being transmitted across synapses. Exactly what is the 'raw' feeling of the agony one gets when they touch a flame? How can seemingly unconscious atoms simply being transmitted translate to a 'feeling' of raw pain?

If we designed a robot to have a complex CPU, to be able to respond, understand, think of it's own accord, no matter how complex this CPU was, would it ever be able to feel? Would the electrons flitting across it's circuit boards ever translate to that 'raw' feeling we humans possess ?

My conclusion: There is something else, something more, an essence that simply can not be due to natural process's(it can be evoked by natural processes but itself is an external force or reality that enables us to 'feel'. We have dissected the brain, analysed it, have volumes of books on the nervous system, and yet, i thoroughly doubt there ever will be an answer to this.

I'm going to sum up your entire argument in one, simple sentence: "I do not understand the laws of nature, therefore god exists."

If you want to become an Atheist, you need to do 2 things:

1: Read your damned holy book, whichever it may be, and use your common sense.

2: Read some science books and gain a true understanding of Nature in its true beauty.

[Rin Hato]

"Add plausible evidence"

Wait a second, so there's evidence already around that he can add to?

[Fidel_Castronaut]

"Add plausible evidence"

Wait a second, so there's evidence already around that he can add to?

His evidence is fallacious argument that have nothing to back them up except appeals to ignorance.

[Jason78]

Frankly, I'm surprised he got as many serious responses as he did.

MFW he got a serious response.