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Started by Munch, October 24, 2014, 02:53:59 PM

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Munch

#480
Quote from: Shiranu on January 01, 2016, 02:27:59 PM
If it was a kid's sport as overly sexualized as MLP is? Yeah probably.

I am all for Bronies, I don't have a problem with them (as I've said before I probably have weirder fetishes), but at the same time have to keep it real... there IS a huge difference between loving a sports team and sexualizing a children's cartoon.

As Hydra said, the rule34 applies to everything, so using the sexualization of mlp characters as the reason to think of anyone else liking the show as being creepy just don't work, anymore then those who still like pokemon, marvel comics, transformers, mario and sonic, all who have listings on rule34.

Its one of these issues where if you take any argument people have against those who like MLP:FiM, they can easily be broken down, yet those people would still see them as reason to hate on bronies, kind of like how ultra feminists hate all men, and refuse to listen to anyone who disagrees with their world view.

Its like when I was playing Wow the other day (yeah I still play it), I saw someone on the trade chat start yelling out how 'the alliance is so childish, omg, their played by little kids!", an argument i've heard for years on forums and in chat. But being that I play both factions in wow, horde and alliance, I've found that there is no difference, both sides have its immature asshats, trolls and rabble rousers, because that is an online community, and the made up factions do not determine what each side is like, the same as fans of MLP, football or starwars do not determine if they are decent people or assholes.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

Munch

Quote from: Nonsensei on January 01, 2016, 03:24:55 PM
These guys want to fuck cartoon ponies. That's pretty weird.

Is it the worst thing going on in the world right now? Nah.

conclusion: who cares?

Like say, rule34 applies to everything, so its not an aspect that determines a fandom.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

aitm

jesus h christ, I never even heard of rule 34…….but here I am again in at the fucking weird thread……..oy vey.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Shiranu

I was writing a full response... but it's just not worth it. I have no problems with Bronies; if something floats your goat... go for it. But it is fundamentally different than sports fanaticism when such a vocal minority or majority are sexualizing a little girl's cartoon (and I again don't have a problem with that... nor Pokemon being sexualized... nor whatever. I think it has nothing to do with what demograph it is aimed at).

The point I am making is that there is a different dynamic going on and you have to expect "normal" people to view it as odd... just as I would expect people to find some of my fetishes odd or I find BDSM odd. When you add into the equation that it is something aimed at kids... people look at people my age who are still REALLY into Pokemon or whatever weird too. It's not like Bronies are singled out.

You also have to take into consideration just how vocal sexual Bronies are compared to other sexual subgroups of cartoon fans. I see bronies literally everywhere; I do not see people rocking sexy Pikachu or pornhub Kim Possible avatars and posting said pictures at nearly the same rate as Bronies do. So if you don't want Bronies to be so negatively judged... that is something that should really be addressed within the Bronie community.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Munch

#484
Yes but shiranu, again, your implying that because of a few people who sexualized animated ponies, that all adult fans of the show are like that, and when really that's just a minority of fans, so it's not a valid reason for anyone to hate on bronies just because of that minority.

I've not ever sexualized any characters in a show like this, since their like 95% female cast, but I love the show. Likewise I've never sexualized dexters lab, powerpuff girls, tiny toon adventures, animaniacs or fosters home for imaginary friends, because they are just shows that are well made, funny, and don't need any sexualization to make them watchable.

And for someone like me who's favour falls in with big, hyper masculine, near or full naked super heroes, saying I can really love a show where sex isn't needed to make it appealing, well it says it all really
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

Nonsensei

Quote from: Munch on January 01, 2016, 04:10:36 PM
Like say, rule34 applies to everything, so its not an aspect that determines a fandom.

Is there a word for when a theory that is supposed to apply to everything falls apart when it is applied to the theory itself? There is no porn of rule 34.
And on the wings of a dream so far beyond reality
All alone in desperation now the time has come
Lost inside you'll never find, lost within my own mind
Day after day this misery must go on

Munch

#486
Quote from: Nonsensei on January 01, 2016, 06:13:22 PM
Is there a word for when a theory that is supposed to apply to everything falls apart when it is applied to the theory itself? There is no porn of rule 34.



its no picasso, but I think it conveys the depth of the situation.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

Nonsensei

Quote from: Munch on January 01, 2016, 06:28:38 PM


its no picasso, but I think it conveys the depth of the situation.

My dick is rock hard.
And on the wings of a dream so far beyond reality
All alone in desperation now the time has come
Lost inside you'll never find, lost within my own mind
Day after day this misery must go on

Munch

Didn't know you were into that kinda thing ;)
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

Nonsensei

Quote from: Munch on January 01, 2016, 06:44:33 PM
Didn't know you were into that kinda thing ;)

Hey at least I can say I'm not a Brony.
And on the wings of a dream so far beyond reality
All alone in desperation now the time has come
Lost inside you'll never find, lost within my own mind
Day after day this misery must go on

Shiranu

I'm apparently not saying what I think I am, or conveying it properly, so never mind. Because that is not what I have said for the 3rd time.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Hydra009

#491
Quote from: Munch on January 01, 2016, 04:04:02 PMIts like when I was playing Wow the other day (yeah I still play it), I saw someone on the trade chat start yelling out how 'the alliance is so childish, omg, their played by little kids!", an argument i've heard for years on forums and in chat.
During my time playing, that's pretty much what I assumed.  But apparently that's not true, or at least, not true now.  I remember the alliance outnumbering the horde 3 to 1 in the early days.  I don't have the data to back this up, but I got the impression that the human and nelf races were the most popular races and it just snowballed from there since if you want to play with your friends, and your friend is a human or nelf, then you have to roll an alliance character.  Horde was disliked because their characters were more bestial and "ugly-looking".  Trolls were the most disliked. But then horde got a more attractive-looking race - the blood elves - and the demographics changed dramatically.

stromboli

I'm thinking I might walk into the library here in Utah, stumble, grab my gut and scream "Oh my god, I'm having a bronie!" and then run out.

My current bronie moment.  :biggrin:

Munch

Quote from: stromboli on January 01, 2016, 07:34:38 PM
I'm thinking I might walk into the library here in Utah, stumble, grab my gut and scream "Oh my god, I'm having a bronie!" and then run out.

My current bronie moment.  :biggrin:

You need to find a pink wig too, walk in dressed normally, fall over, slip it on and then stand up and yell, being shocked by the sudden assault to your hair.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

Hijiri Byakuren

Honestly, the weirdest stuff I've seen from the Brony community isn't the sexualization.

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