Wasn't sure if you put this here or in the film, tv page, but figured its general enough to go here.
Speaking as a 33 year old dude who when he was a kid did watch the original my little pony cartoon series, since then I forgot mostly about that and grew up loving x-men, batman, computer games and all the usual stuff.
I never even pegged my interest when seeing my little pony stuff still produced years later, including when the current generation of it became popular, and so of course I wondered what this whole brony thing was based around any why it existed.
So having watched some of the episodes of MLP-FIM, my overall opinion is that its a good show, and a lot more well written then any of its previous series, I've also watched some youtubers applying critical analysis of the episodes and like some of the reviews. But again, I've not become a fan and while thinking its a good show, its not something I'd get into watching as a habit.
So on that end it made me wonder just why is there such a following for adult men, bronies, to get behind it. At best what I can take a stab at, is some men saw the show, and liked it, the story, the character design, the overall premise of the series, and became a fan. They told others they liked the show, and got given some negative feedback by them, which resulted in them forming a cultural following for men who felt the same, and formed a fandom around that, made even stronger when it got ridiculed by people like online.
At least thats my thought on it. maybe I'm wrong.
My overall thought on bronies and the haters is while I think MLP-FIM is a good show, and can understand it having a following, its always struck me as a little extreme to form a cultural fanbase around it for grown up men, not to say that its a bad thing, just that given this show came from a long line that had always been advertised for little girls, yeah, you can see why people would argue it being just for little girls and why they find it strange.
But then against the haters, does it really bother people so much that adult men like a decently written cartoon series? I think MLP has better writing then most of the other cartoons out now, so there is no wrong is liking the series. I just couldn't become a brony in the militant sense as others have. Its kind of like, speaking as a gay guy, if someone came up to me and laughed say 'haha your a cock sucker', I'd just smile and say yeah, yeah I am, you should try it one time.
There are people who need reasons to ridicule other people; simple as that.
Eh, I'm a fan of some of the music that's been produced by the fanbase, and I think if I watched the show I'd enjoy it thoroughly, so in that regard I could be called a Brony, but I tend to stay away form the majority of fanbases, too much conflict I say
Let em watch what they wanna watch
Quote from: stromboli on October 24, 2014, 03:15:31 PM
There are people who need reasons to ridicule other people; simple as that.
I don't get it, I mean yeah people are dicks, but there isn't anything remotely bad about liking this show. And considering there are so many things aimed at boys, marketed at boys, that girls get into, the stigma of boys liking a show claimed to be aimed at girls is just silly.
Bronies are still a thing? I thought that fad had died out. I haven't heard anything about that community in like a year. That's ages in internet-time.
They're less vocal but hardly dead, still growing in some areas. But a lot of them have moved on to homestuck and the like
:eh:
i'm too old for this shit...
Quote from: stromboli on October 24, 2014, 03:15:31 PM
There are people who need reasons to ridicule other people; simple as that.
What stromboli said.
Some people are just pricks. Who cares what other people like? It has nothing to do with anything other than them.... unless it involves other people... but in case of tv shows, fuck haters, man.
Well, if it were not for bronies then 4Chan wouldn't have as many cringe threads, and I enjoy their cringe threads very much.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSOv7TqZ8w-ud0NC5FTjKHoFDg-C6qSvkIACh-mbcoGFs8xD4m_chH1_JE)
I think it's pretty obvious to any reasonable thinking person that MLP is a satanic cult.. :pray:
I tried watching an episode once. I selected one randomly, so I may have found one of the lesser efforts, but I wasn't impressed.
(http://i.imgur.com/30WheVb.jpg) (http://imgur.com/30WheVb)
Asked my 86 year old dad if we should have a father and son bronie party and the exciting results below...
no. :think:
You should "pony" up and have one anyway. :pidu:
Quote from: Munch on October 24, 2014, 02:53:59 PMSpeaking as a 33 year old dude who when he was a kid did watch the original my little pony cartoon series, since then I forgot mostly about that and grew up loving x-men, batman, computer games and all the usual stuff.
I never even pegged my interest when seeing my little pony stuff still produced years later, including when the current generation of it became popular, and so of course I wondered what this whole brony thing was based around any why it existed.
Same except I was curious what all the hubbub was about, so I checked out an episode or three, which quickly snowballed into watching the whole season and jonesing for more.
(http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/www.ign.com/5958/2011/07/At-first-238x300.jpg)
QuoteSo on that end it made me wonder just why is there such a following for adult men, bronies, to get behind it. At best what I can take a stab at, is some men saw the show, and liked it, the story, the character design, the overall premise of the series, and became a fan.
Bingo! I particularly liked the characters. All six of the mane cast have their own distinct personalities, quirks, strengths, and weaknesses.
And this show has some serious talent behind it. Lauren Faust did a hell of job taking on a more or less defunct franchise and really breathing new life into it. She said she wanted to appeal to kids while still making it bearable for their parents. She definitely accomplished that. Maybe a little too well.
And John de Lancie played a nearly omnipotent being with god-like powers who reeks havoc and sows discord among the protagonists. And he also played Q on Star Trek.
And there's even Weird Al!
QuoteThey told others they liked the show, and got given some negative feedback by them, which resulted in them forming a cultural following for men who felt the same, and formed a fandom around that, made even stronger when it got ridiculed by people like online.
It's the other way around, actually. There have always been neigh-sayers, even at the early stages of the fandom, but the brony fandom isn't a reaction to them, they're the reaction to the fandom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olLDrvc1qt4
The video gives a great explanation of the origins of bronies. Basically, 4chan (of all places) really catapulted it into the public eye. And while /b/ + pony (or alternatively, bro + pony) may have initially meant adult male fans, the term has expanded to encompass all fans of the show.
QuoteMy overall thought on bronies and the haters is while I think MLP-FIM is a good show, and can understand it having a following, its always struck me as a little extreme to form a cultural fanbase around it for grown up men, not to say that its a bad thing, just that given this show came from a long line that had always been advertised for little girls, yeah, you can see why people would argue it being just for little girls and why they find it strange.
There's a lot that can be said about the little girl argument, so I'll try to be brief. But basically, the argument boils down to claiming that one shouldn't enjoy something if you aren't the primary demographic, which is just incredibly dictatorial (who are you to decide what someone else can and cannot like?) and patently untrue. Pokemon, Disney/Pixar movies, etc are all thoroughly enjoyed by people well outside of the primary demographic. (http://www.thegeekprofessor.com/ponies/is-my-little-pony-still-a-little-girls-show/) There's nothing wrong with that. In fact, broad appeal well outside of the target demographic is the sign of a wildly successful show. Okay, so that gets the age argument out of the way, what about the other half of that objection - that's it's for girls, not for guys. There's something really screwed up about that sort of sentiment - that liking something "girly" is beneath us guys, that liking a show like this is somehow a threat to our masculinity, which is a complete and udder cowpile.
Here's what Lauren Faust says about this: "I love the idea of 'all ages' entertainment - media that is enjoyable to male and female, young and adult. But the perception currently out there is that, if the main character is a girl, or if a significant portion of the cast is female, it is 'for girls' only and exclusively. And usually, if something is planned for both genders, it means most of the characters are boys - and that maybe, if you’re lucky, there are a couple of girls who get to tag along. I long for the day that female characters are not considered novel."
Amen.
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on October 24, 2014, 06:27:11 PMBronies are still a thing? I thought that fad had died out. I haven't heard anything about that community in like a year. That's ages in internet-time.
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on October 24, 2014, 06:37:00 PM
They're less vocal but hardly dead, still growing in some areas. But a lot of them have moved on to homestuck and the like
The fandom is still very much alive, but is now largely insular. It took the internet by storm for a couple years, but I'd imagine that non-fans didn't particularly like the deluge of pony stuff encroaching into their corner of the web. Fair enough. There's a pretty strong reaction against it now to the point that pony stuff just gets downvoted on a lot of non-brony sites. The various pony boards, equestria daily, my little brony, etc have become safe havens for bronies, instead.
Also, some people have at least partially gone over to other fandoms and devote less time to ponies. Personally, I've really gotten into Game of Thrones and haven't followed FiM quite like I used to.
Consider me a near brony, blame Tara Strong and the music for that
And MSA rainbow dash
You guys do realize that Pinky is a Brony, right? Not that anyone is being rude or anything, I just think that needs to be taken into account.
The funny thing about the MLP longevity is how looked on youtude back at the older mlp series and episodes, gen1 right though to gen 3.5, there isn't really anything in these that makes any of the characters discernible or even likable, they were just obvious personality lacking toy products made simply with no complexity to appeal to the simplier minds of children to sell those products.
What this new series seems to do is give is a massive injection of personality, on level with things like the powerpuff girls, dexters lab or other nickelodeon cartoons, and add complexities that both kids and adults can relate to, instead of the characters just being flat, watered down characters.
I mean there are dozens of cartoons now that follow this formula, but maybe its because of what a massive leap this series took away from the original format of...
(http://i.imgur.com/mJg3kXX.gif)
to this -
(http://pinkie.ponychan.net/chan/files/src/140687215553.gif)
yeah, its a definite shift in tone.
Quote from: Solitary on October 25, 2014, 12:18:50 PM
You should "pony" up and have one anyway. :pidu:
uhhh.. no again?
And here I thought anime was just cartoons.. I had no idea my little pony was so life changing.. Still, anyone call me a bronie and I'll simply have to kill you. I'm sorry..
Who am I to judge an adult male that likes a child's cartoon show? I watch pokémon.
Quote from: Hydra009 on October 25, 2014, 01:15:36 PM
The fandom is still very much alive, but is now largely insular. It took the internet by storm for a couple years, but I'd imagine that non-fans didn't particularly like the deluge of pony stuff encroaching into their corner of the web. Fair enough. There's a pretty strong reaction against it now to the point that pony stuff just gets downvoted on a lot of non-brony sites. The various pony boards, equestria daily, my little brony, etc have become safe havens for bronies, instead.
Also, some people have at least partially gone over to other fandoms and devote less time to ponies. Personally, I've really gotten into Game of Thrones and haven't followed FiM quite like I used to.
It never bothered me, I thought it was hilarious. Both the storm, as you say, and the reaction to it. I'll admit that the 'brony-fandom' in essence strikes me as odd, but whatever. If you like it, you like it. Plain and simple. And if I harbor prejudice towards you for that, then fuck me, not you.
Quote from: Jason78 on October 25, 2014, 08:36:43 PM
Who am I to judge an adult male that likes a child's cartoon show? I watch pokémon.
Thats actually a great point to make. I'm certain there are countless people even as old as me that got into the pokemon craze and still think the world of it today. and honestly, given what I've seen on pokemon, and MLP, I'd say MLP is the better in terms of story, morals and character development.
Never liked pokemon myself, but loads of people did.
APA... Anime is love. Anime is life.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on October 25, 2014, 08:57:30 PM
APA... Anime is love. Anime is life.
You guys really should go outside and experience sun and oxygen once in awhile.. I hear it also helps life exist..
And no..not some fucking cartoon of the sun and oxygen molecules..
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on October 25, 2014, 09:59:19 PM
You guys really should go outside and experience sun and oxygen once in awhile.. I hear it also helps life exist..
And no..not some fucking cartoon of the sun and oxygen molecules..
Since when does watching TV shows every once and a while mean you don't do outside stuff? :think:
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on October 25, 2014, 08:38:31 PMIt never bothered me, I thought it was hilarious. Both the storm, as you say, and the reaction to it. I'll admit that the 'brony-fandom' in essence strikes me as odd, but whatever. If you like it, you like it. Plain and simple. And if I harbor prejudice towards you for that, then fuck me, not you.
Exactly.
I just like adorable stuff every once and a while. It really helps me de-stress and/or keep sane. That and I have an atypical fondness for cartoons. As a kid, like 90% of the stuff I watched was animated, and only around 10% was live action. Even today, it's somewhere around 50-50. Since in the US, animation is almost entirely either kid's shows or comedies, it's a pretty limited pool to choose from, and I'm forced to go to anime for more adult-themed content.
Plus, I just really like the format of cartoons. There's more freedom of expression because you're not limited to what human actors can do. If you can imagine it and draw it, you can make a story out of it. You can create these fantastic worlds and just go wild with it. And there's another thing I love: the fantastic. I work and study and pay taxes in the real world. And eventually, I'll die in the real world. I've made my peace with that. But I refuse to dream of the real world. That and that alone is my one small act of defiance. I dream of worlds without limit - beautiful, terrible, wondrous, and chaotic - worlds where anything is possible. Worlds that are profoundly unlike our own, worlds like Nirn, Cadia, Mirrodin, Toril, Trantor, Rakis, and yes, Equestria. And I never tire of stories about them.
I don't like the sun. I go outside when it's dark out.
It's raining outside and its freezing cold. Plus there are Christians roaming the streets. Fuck the outside world.
I love a good rainy day, but the outside sucks too bright, unless its raining which I love The sun fries me like an egg so it kills me slowly, not fun
I'd rather hang out with the cartoons and vidya games
Quote from: PickelledEggs on October 25, 2014, 11:47:27 PM
I don't like the sun. I go outside when it's dark out.
Yes, the sun should be extinguished. Being able to see during the day is a real bummer.
(http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/simpsons-mr-burns-blocks-out-the-sun1-640x353.jpg)
excellent
Quote from: PickelledEggs on October 25, 2014, 11:47:27 PM
I don't like the sun. I go outside when it's dark out.
I have a tan year round. I worship the sun. I wear tank tops and shorts in the winter. Screw you, you pale excuse for a human. :naughty:
Quote from: stromboli on October 26, 2014, 02:51:34 PM
I have a tan year round. I worship the sun. I wear tank tops and shorts in the winter. Screw you, you pale excuse for a human. :naughty:
Oh no, your make the albino puppy sad :(
(http://paradoxoff.com/files/2010/11/albino-dog-1.jpg)
Quote from: stromboli on October 26, 2014, 02:51:34 PM
I have a tan year round. I worship the sun. I wear tank tops and shorts in the winter. Screw you, you pale excuse for a human. :naughty:
I have color to my skin because I'm half Assyrian and a bit Italian.
I don't need to work for a tan because even when I'm pale I'm still tan a bit.
Sent from your mom
Quote from: PickelledEggs on October 26, 2014, 03:06:25 PM
I have color to my skin because I'm half Assyrian and a bit Italian.
I don't need to work for a tan because even when I'm pale I'm still tan a bit.
Sent from your mom
In that case enjoy the darkness and be tanned as well.
I'm only partially tan.. The parts I refuse to expose to the rest of the human race are born again virgin skin the way white people were intended by GOD! :pray:
Neighbor I had up until recently was so white he was pasty. He looked like the Pillsbury Doughboy with a Hipster beard. His wife was ugly, dumb and mean. They spent literally all day inside on individual laptops, apparently doing nothing else. I know this because they left the curtains open and you could see them all night on their laptops.
Seriously, get a hobby that moves you outside once in a while. I do as much outside as I can because I like weather and wind and shit like that there.
I have to admit I like being outside as much as I can, but I'm still not exposing my pasty white belly to the public without a fight.. It's a public eyesore these days..
Yeah, we noticed: (http://i.imgur.com/hK9W0rW.jpg) (http://imgur.com/hK9W0rW) :pidu:
Quote from: Solitary on October 27, 2014, 11:56:34 AM
Yeah, we noticed: (http://i.imgur.com/hK9W0rW.jpg) (http://imgur.com/hK9W0rW) :pidu:
Nope.. I'm still pretty skinny so subtract about 200 lbs and add the extra skin from that and color it fluorescent white.. :lol:
Quote from: stromboli on October 26, 2014, 11:45:18 PM
Neighbor I had up until recently was so white he was pasty. He looked like the Pillsbury Doughboy with a Hipster beard. His wife was ugly, dumb and mean. They spent literally all day inside on individual laptops, apparently doing nothing else. I know this because they left the curtains open and you could see them all night on their laptops.
Seriously, get a hobby that moves you outside once in a while. I do as much outside as I can because I like weather and wind and shit like that there.
It's not like I'm spending the whole day jerking off, watching TV, and playing videogames. When I'm home I like to work on artwork. And for some reason, I've lost weight while doing that. I went from 210 to 165. If anything, I'm lanky now. I'm a lanky and Mediterranean-skinned guy.... go figure.... :lol:
Keep that up and you'll be Stromboli's new avatar.. :shifty:
I have fair skin to the point where I burn at the drop of a hat, and I worked outside four days a week for 5-12 hours for six months, didn't tan a bit.
As for Bronies, I'll probably end up watching it when I'm in Dallas next week, not much else to do, you'll know if I make my profile pic into rainbow dash
a ponified version of Liara could work too
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on October 27, 2014, 12:26:08 PM
Keep that up and you'll be Stromboli's new avatar.. :shifty:
Hot. :lol:
My question: why My Little Pony, and not some other children's show? Why so random?
Oh pinky pie! you're so random!
Quote from: Atheon on October 27, 2014, 02:12:49 PMMy question: why My Little Pony, and not some other children's show? Why so random?
There are adult followings for other shows, too. This one just got way more of them than normal.
Quote from: Hydra009 on October 27, 2014, 02:57:49 PM
There are adult followings for other shows, too. This one just got way more of them than normal.
I'm guessing because it's good? I have to check this out now.
I remember the first time I looked back at "Hey Arnold!" I had a new appreciation for it and in fact liked the show even more for the things only adults could get, despite it being a "kid's cartoon" I never saw MLP, but I'm definitely intrigued.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on October 27, 2014, 03:03:39 PM
I'm guessing because it's good? I have to check this out now.
Yep. Plus, there are some fantastic fan videos. Sturgeon's law applies, but given the sheer volume, there's lots of really great hits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfj0GjzyUSE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMh7yktC2u0
That first song gave me a headache, but the second one wasn't that bad. I just get nauseous from that type of music in general (the first song)
(http://i.imgur.com/drrdop8.gif)
I love this series.
Hey Hey HEY, Stay outta my shed.
Awww. I like flutterwonder
my favorite brony song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEeAYo4jfxs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMra1iv7QEQ
Are they hurting anyone? No? Then I don't really care.
Sorry, what I meant was STOP LIKING THINGS I DON'T LIKE!
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on October 27, 2014, 08:22:36 PM
Awww. I like flutterwonder
my favorite brony song
lol I just usually don't like techno music. There are some that I like, but it's usually something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP4bZABnhOQ
oh, and just to clear the air, Dinky doo its Derpy's daughter. the Fanon is Canon
(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/353/6/a/dinky_and_derpy_by_animalsss-d5odyzo.png)
Ah derpy, proving the power of extreme fandom and observation can lead to greater things.
(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111012224538/mylittlebrony/images/6/6d/Derpy_Hooves_derp_derp_derp.gif)
My plan for my Dallas trip is to either watch this whole series, possibly play some more Tor, or maybe do the RP with the guys, if they're all here
My friend got me to read my little dashie last night
(http://makeameme.org/media/created/im-sad-now.jpg)
Quote from: PickelledEggs on October 27, 2014, 03:03:39 PM
I'm guessing because it's good? I have to check this out now.
I remember the first time I looked back at "Hey Arnold!" I had a new appreciation for it and in fact liked the show even more for the things only adults could get, despite it being a "kid's cartoon" I never saw MLP, but I'm definitely intrigued.
If you like kids cartoons with jokes in it that only adults will get, try Animaniacs :)
Quote from: Jason78 on November 02, 2014, 07:16:11 AM
If you like kids cartoons with jokes in it that only adults will get, try Animaniacs :)
Daaaam right, I loved rewatching this show.
I don't get it. But I don't get fandom or fantasy or roleplaying or what I just learned is "cosplay" or anything like it, so I guess my not getting it doesn't matter.
Quote from: Mermaid on November 02, 2014, 08:11:53 AM
I don't get it. But I don't get fandom or fantasy or roleplaying or what I just learned is "cosplay" or anything like it, so I guess my not getting it doesn't matter.
You just don't get the big picture Mermaid.. This fantasy crap is important stuff.. Kinda like religion and the rapture because uhhh...well...it's uhhh...............
I don't get it either. We're doomed I guess..
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on November 01, 2014, 05:38:18 PMoh, and just to clear the air, Dinky doo its Derpy's daughter. the Fanon is Canon
Yeah, I do like how the show had little nods to its fans.
(For those who don't know, Derpy was just a background character with an animation error that gave her derp eyes. Fans named her Derpy Hooves and imagined her as the city's mailcarrier with a personality that is scatterbrained but diligent and unfailingly cheerful. Because of the copious fan attention, she got a ton of cameos and even a speaking role. But she's extremely accident-prone and her voice seemed a lot like someone with Down's syndrome. Some people reacted to this really badly, thinking the show was belittling the mentally retarded, so derpy got edited to no longer be cross-eyed and no longer have a strange-sounding voice and she's been pretty much shelved ever since)
Now, she has adventures with the pony equivalent of Doctor Who. Heh.)
Quote from: Mermaid on November 02, 2014, 08:11:53 AMI don't get it. But I don't get fandom or fantasy or roleplaying or what I just learned is "cosplay" or anything like it, so I guess my not getting it doesn't matter.
Fandoms are subcultures centered around a common interest, usually a TV show or film series. They analyze the hell out of the show, generate fan stories/art/music/video, etc. They often have conventions where they talk with other fans and often have Q&A with the cast of the show.
Roleplaying is essentially just playing pretending to be someone else in a fictional setting. And contrary to APA's insistence, possibly due to a terminal lack of imagination, there's nothing with that. :P
Cosplay is just dressing up like a fictional character. Practically everyone does it. Hell, we just had a holiday where that's pretty much the norm. But doing that outside of socially-approved settings is a bit of a challenge, as cosplayers can easily attract dirty looks from non-fans and internally suffer from embarrassment, so that mainly happens at conventions.
Quote from: Jason78 on November 02, 2014, 07:16:11 AM
If you like kids cartoons with jokes in it that only adults will get, try Animaniacs :)
I loved Animaniacs and I still do. That was a good cartoon. The original Ren and Stimpy is also a favorite of mine
Now we just have to get you to watch the show, enjoy it, then read the MLD comic!
Yeah, My Little Dashie is great. Feels galore.
I'm really starting to appreciate fan works more and more. They really add something to the whole experience.
One work that really gets my attention is the more action (http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/308/6/d/from_black_skies_come_the_rainbow_warriors_by_equestria_prevails-d5jx4l3.png) and (http://equestria-prevails.deviantart.com/art/Blackperch-Creag-486250589?q=gallery%3AEquestria-Prevails&qo=2) adventure (http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/284/d/a/aerial_supremacy_by_equestria_prevails-d82ht1c.png) take on the FiM setting as proposed by Equestria Prevails.
(http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2012/262/a/b/back_in_the_saddle_by_equestria_prevails-d5f7i9r.png)
If this were to ever become an animation, it would be nothing short of glorious.
QuoteYeah, My Little Dashie is great. Feels galore.
(http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2012/209/7/8/reaction_to_my_little_dashie_by_kazia_kat-d58y5pd.jpg)
Sorry to keep harping on it, but its rare for a story to effect me emotionally nowadays, and this one got me good, its...odd
QuoteAnd contrary to APA's insistence, possibly due to a terminal lack of imagination..
Oh yes..I see now. How could I have overlooked it all this time.. Me thinking grown men who are big fans of little girl cartoons equates to a complete and utter lack of imagination on my part.
Gee.. I feel so much better now. It's as if a whole new world of scratching my head wondering what the hell is wrong with you guys has been opened up! :biggrin: I'll never think of you the same. It's been my fault all along.. I was a bottle baby after all. :think:
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on November 03, 2014, 09:51:08 AM
Oh yes..I see now. How could I have overlooked it all this time.. Me thinking grown men who are big fans of little girl cartoons equates to a complete and utter lack of imagination on my part.
Gee.. I feel so much better now. It's as if a whole new world of scratching my head wondering what the hell is wrong with you guys has been opened up! :biggrin: I'll never think of you the same. It's been my fault all along.. I was a bottle baby after all. :think:
(http://i.imgur.com/AOMVMEJ.jpg)
Seriously though, APA, please figure this out at the very least:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI
Conversation with my dad, apparently some people were talking about it in chat
D: "My little pony, that's some Gay ass shit"
Me: "mmhmm"
D: "The only people who watch that show are pedophiles and faggots"
Me: "Not true dad"
D: "Fuck yeah it is, only gay little fucks watch that show. Fucking Faggots"
Me: "Its watched by men and women, of all ages"
D: "No it isn't, you liar, its watched by a bunch of homos who I wouldn't leave my little daughter around, how can they enjoy a show about fucking ponies?"
Me: "So storyline and animation quality don't make a difference?"
D: "what storyline is there in a bunch of fucking ponies, all they do is brush their hair. Bet those faggots love that too"
Me: "They do a lot more than that, you're thinking of the 1980's version, not the modern version where they actually fight each other"
D: "Bunch of gay ass shit, if I ever see you watch that show I'm going to beat it out of you"
Me: "uh-hunh, whatever dad"
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/8f/8f707c3a141b2a8e6c84c241b2219361f296b23d71ba1dce0942cb7601ff09f8.jpg)
The "that's gay" argument. It's been ages since I heard that one. Probably because being gay is more socially accepted now. And come on, the threatened masculinity thing, again? Sheesh. I'd call it an argument refuted a thousand times, but it's more like a million and counting. And even from a fevered perspective, the part about his daughter doesn't make any sense. What harm could come to a girl hanging out with male homosexuals?!
QuoteD: "Bunch of gay ass shit, if I ever see you watch that show I'm going to beat it out of you"
Me: "uh-hunh, whatever dad"
That's some seriously abusive stuff right there. Run.
You get used to it, after 19 years it doesn't really bother you anymore
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on November 04, 2014, 09:29:05 AM
Conversation with my dad, apparently some people were talking about it in chat
D: "My little pony, that's some Gay ass shit"
Me: "mmhmm"
D: "The only people who watch that show are pedophiles and faggots"
Me: "Not true dad"
D: "Fuck yeah it is, only gay little fucks watch that show. Fucking Faggots"
Me: "Its watched by men and women, of all ages"
D: "No it isn't, you liar, its watched by a bunch of homos who I wouldn't leave my little daughter around, how can they enjoy a show about fucking ponies?"
Me: "So storyline and animation quality don't make a difference?"
D: "what storyline is there in a bunch of fucking ponies, all they do is brush their hair. Bet those faggots love that too"
Me: "They do a lot more than that, you're thinking of the 1980's version, not the modern version where they actually fight each other"
D: "Bunch of gay ass shit, if I ever see you watch that show I'm going to beat it out of you"
Me: "uh-hunh, whatever dad"
(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/8f/8f707c3a141b2a8e6c84c241b2219361f296b23d71ba1dce0942cb7601ff09f8.jpg)
If you need a gay guy to beat up your dad I'm available.
Quote from: Jason78 on November 02, 2014, 07:16:11 AM
If you like kids cartoons with jokes in it that only adults will get, try Animaniacs :)
No, try adventure time.
How?! How is that labeled as a kids show?! How can... How?!
I love that show to death.
But seriously, how?!
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on November 04, 2014, 01:56:17 PM
If you need a gay guy to beat up your dad I'm available.
Thanks, but I want to reserve the right to beat him for a special occasion, I want the privilege
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on November 04, 2014, 02:11:49 PMNo, try adventure time.
How?! How is that labeled as a kids show?! How can... How?!
I love that show to death.
But seriously, how?!
I'm kinda jealous how those shows are okay to like but not MLP. Frank or whoever can jump into a car made out of his magical shapeshifting dog and that's cool, but talking unicorns is crossing some sort of line. People don't make sense to me.
Adventure Time's not really my thing, but I do like Bravest Warriors.
Bravest warriors kicks ass!
Quote from: Hydra009 on November 04, 2014, 02:37:46 PM
I'm kinda jealous how those shows are okay to like but not MLP. Frank or whoever can jump into a car made out of his magical shapeshifting dog and that's cool, but talking unicorns is crossing some sort of line. People don't make sense to me.
Adventure Time's not really my thing, but I do like Bravest Warriors.
It's okay to like whatever you want, Hydra. At least to me.
But, and I've seen a couple of the MLP shows just to see what the fuzz was about, they are quite different shows.
The reason why I don't personally like MLP is not because of talking unicorns. It's because it's so heavily sugarcoated and puts the emphasis on 'friendship' and 'love' and all that beating the forces of darkness. Yes, it was edgier and on a much higher level than I first thought it to be, but it still seems to put the focus on that old spiel. At least in the five episodes or so I watched.
What I like most about AT is that morality is really shady in that universe. The episodes don't need a 'happy-let's-learn-a-lesson' ending. In fact there are many of them which end on a very cryptic and morally-bankrupt tone. The heroes in this show even often show such fundamental character-flaws that you must ask yourself if they are truly heroes. For example the bubblegum princess does highly unethical science experiments on living things. Or Finn beats up a 'monster' in a dungeon that didn't attack him at all and is just sad to see his treasure be stolen. But you still somehow find yourself rooting for them. There are no lessons to be learned, because Ooooooo isn't a magical place of happines. It's filled with flawed characters and monsters. And most of them try to be as moral as they can be, but doing the right thing for the right reasons just isn't as convenient as in MLP or many other cartoons.
Also, some of the imagery is just plain horrifying and creepy. They dare show actuall monsters. Characters get eaten alive. The Lich is a true agent of destruction, not falling in the trope of 'explaining' why he's evil or does evil things. He just murders and destroys. Peppermint Butler will take your flesh as you sleep and killed a guy off screen.
That and the fact that after a few dozen episodes they manage to make two seemingly unrelated characters have the deepest and most sad bond of all is just amazing. They are willing to really implement tragedy and loss into their story, and not the kind that get's resolved by the episode's end. And one of those two characters was pretty much the silliest person in the show. They make you feel bad about laughing at him and his misfortunes up to that point, but don't stop you from laughing at new ones. They pull your heartstrings and you love 'em for it.
These reasons are reasons why I like the show, and coincidentally, they are the reasons why I don't understand how it's labeled a 'kids show'. But hey, you like what you like. And I'll like what I like. And maybe we can both agree that neither our shows are the best cartoon of the last few years and agree that that place belongs to 'Avatar: The Last Airbender'.
I like ATs lore I just can't watch the first few episodes, I loose interest everyh time, but I enjoy reading about it, it's really weird to be honest.
If you havent watched bravest warriors give that a shot too, I personally like it a great deal and I'm itching for the next season to start. Think of it as a space version of AT, with lots of Fandoms and shipping and such, and heartbreak.
And I think or of the reasons that mlp got popular was because of its benevolence, it had upper level jokes for adults and such, but it was also a nice show at heart, so many shows are dark and brooding nowadays and I think that some of us, even though we love these dark shows, still remember the cartoons we liked as a kid which weree nice and special, so this harkens back to it subconsciously
Lastly, I don't know of avatar is my favorite cartoon but it's pretty close, up there with courage and robotech
Courage was another show that felt more aimed towards the older crowd than kids, the first season was scary as fuck for a little one too
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on November 05, 2014, 03:34:04 AMThe reason why I don't personally like MLP is not because of talking unicorns. It's because it's so heavily sugarcoated and puts the emphasis on 'friendship' and 'love' and all that beating the forces of darkness. Yes, it was edgier and on a much higher level than I first thought it to be, but it still seems to put the focus on that old spiel. At least in the five episodes or so I watched.
That's basically true. Thankfully, they've more or less dropped the moral lesson at the end (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz7dtIE6kQA). But yes, there's a pretty stark good and evil.
By and large, it's a slice-of-life show where most of the time, conflict is either interpersonal or a character is failing at their vocation (aka cutie mark failure insanity syndrome) or there's some event that has to go off without a hitch. Or dealing with some minor antagonist, like a huckster or bully or dragon. Rarely, there's some sort of crisis, usually paired with a major antagonist. So yeah, not a whole lot on offer in the conflict department.
I think the main draw is a combination of the setting and the characters.
This is a setting where everything is bright and cheery and cute without being sickeningly so, though your mileage may vary. Magic is real and the fantastic happens every day. It's an incredibly idealized world. Though not exactly a utopia, it's very close to it.
The characters are well developed and have their own personalities and interests. And personally, most of the enjoyment of the show is the characters interacting with each other (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa6Z9M5lzNI).
QuoteWhat I like most about AT is that morality is really shady in that universe. The episodes don't need a 'happy-let's-learn-a-lesson' ending. In fact there are many of them which end on a very cryptic and morally-bankrupt tone.
That's precisely why I like Game of Thrones. Very morally ambiguous. And the good characters tend to die off at alarming frequency, leaving the ensuing conflicts mostly black vs grey.
QuoteAnd maybe we can both agree that neither our shows are the best cartoon of the last few years and agree that that place belongs to 'Avatar: The Last Airbender'.
Don't you mean, Avatar: the Legend of Korra? :wink2:
The legend of Korra is awesome, but only season 3 holds a candle to the first show.
It looks like we are destined to disagree in our taste in cartoons forevermore :D
Dogtanian and the Three Muskehounds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogtanian_and_the_Three_Muskehounds) had some pretty adult themes...
Watched the first two and a half seasons while I was in Dallas
Had great fun with them
Btw, I love the new Dashie avatar. Best pony of the mane six, imho.
(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121212063802/mlp/images/a/aa/Rainbow_Dash_with_sunglasses_crop_S02E03.png)
Thanks =), Dashie is awesome (Read it with a RD voice) definitely my favorite with Twilight in second. I do like how the characters play off one another, but I get a bit annoyed with Pinkie pie's character at times, especially when they do one of those blocks when there's about four episodes with one character featuring majorly.
I like em all, but Dashie takes the cake.
Haha! Me too! Rainbow then Twi as well! Then Applejack and Pinkie, with Fluttershy and Rarity a distant 5th and 6th.
The funny thing is Fluttershy is tremendously popular, even going so far as winning a certain infamous contest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmQrITROemg), but her overly meek, demure nature (which bizarrely, flips to super aggressive or downright bullying in certain episodes) doesn't appeal to me at all. Twilight the knowledgeable bookworm and Rainbow Dash the driven athlete and courageous badass are much more appealing to me.
For me it's rainbow dash, twilight, Fluttershy, applejack, rarity, pinkie, though I like all of
Them.
I like Fluttershy, I think she's cute and all, plus the music th the fans created made me like her more.
I also like scootaloo, she's adorable
Tis a strange, strange world we live in
Quote from: aitm on November 07, 2014, 03:29:24 PM
Tis a strange, strange world we live in
...and showing no sign of letting up..
You're aware now that since we're not really into the little girl cartoon thing we must be full blown homophobic right wing red meat eating, fox news watching, woman hating, ultra conservative fundies.. Did I mention our love for Ronald Reagan and Hitler? :lol:
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on November 07, 2014, 08:12:45 PM
...and showing no sign of letting up..
You're aware now that since we're not really into the little girl cartoon thing we must be full blown homophobic right wing red meat eating, fox news watching, woman hating, ultra conservative fundies.. Did I mention our love for Ronald Reagan and Hitler? :lol:
Ces la vie......or however it is spelled my friend.
C'est la vie. ;)
so is it worth watching EG, or should I just skip it?
To each their own. If you want to follow along with a group of grown adult men and worship a children's show please do so without interfering with my life.
That aside, the fandom makes for some great pr0n. :mrgreen:
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on November 08, 2014, 06:27:34 PMso is it worth watching EG, or should I just skip it?
Good question. Personally, I don't like the general concept.
The ponies have been portrayed as humans in fanart a lot over the years, and some of 'em really nail it (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/029/3/4/time_skip_human_mlp_01_by_johnjoseco-d4nzcxv.jpg). The EG character models (http://www.fimfiction-static.net/images/story_images/193126.jpg?1402442896), on the other hand, have these bizarre Bratz proportions (their legs are freakishly long with giant heads paired with tiny torsos and hands) and they all have those 1950s poodle skirts (even rainbow dash and applejack, the two tomboys least likely to wear skirts) and absolutely enormous boots (space marines don't even have boots that big!). And on top of all of that, the EQ humanized ponies unnecessarily retain the colors of the originals, so the viewers are treated with people with purple, yellow, and pink skin. TL;DR - the show goes uncanny valley.
And the setting isn't some magical world, it's high school. Normal, boring high school. So yeah...
And oh God, the shipping! Yeah, Twilight gets a love interest in this one, which is really strange because she hasn't show any interest in that sort of thing up until now at all and it comes out of freakin' nowhere. Plus the fact that she's actually a pony in human form and he's 100% human raises some pretty disturbing questions... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jJh-B4KWxU)
But out of a sort of morbid curiosity, I did watch both of them. The first one was pretty much all character establishment rather than character development. You won't find out anything new about the mane six, but you will see them behave in their characteristic ways - Dash says awesome a lot, pinkie breaks the fourth wall, etc. The plot was okay, but problems came up and were resolved so quickly that there wasn't really much in the way of conflict. There were some funny moments, but it was mostly just a chore to get through. The second one - Rainbow Rocks - was better in just about every way, with some pretty catchy songs (Let's have a battle!) but it's still kinda meh. (And don't tell the normals, but the humanized mane six can grow cat? ears, so we're officially getting into furry territory!)
But don't let me scare you away from the show, give it a shot and see what you think.
I ended up skipping I, though I probably should have watched it between 3 and 4, 3 also seemed oddly rushed to me, I mean I liked it just as much as the rest, but the storyline feels, rushed, like the writers struck or something.
All and all though I like Season four so far, I think season 2 was my favorite, it had good story as well as decent filler episodes, will definitely watch the first two seasons again soon.
Also starting to recognize more of the fan stuff, like how Cheerilee and Big Mac seem to be together more often and she blushes at him and such, shipping galore.
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on November 09, 2014, 01:51:00 PMAll and all though I like Season four so far, I think season 2 was my favorite, it had good story as well as decent filler episodes, will definitely watch the first two seasons again soon.
Two is my favorite as well. The Discord two-parter was one hell of season opener and (finally!) a full episode about Luna was an absolute joy. The wedding was a lot more interesting than I thought it'd be, too. The fans even came up with a suitably dark alternate ending (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-1dyaFyDLk).
I think season 4 was pretty good, too. While it did have a lot of forgettable episodes, it did have Daring Doo. And that episode where the gang explores the castle ruins. Bats! Cadence and Twilight fight a plant wurm (Shai-Hulud). Weird Al vs Pinkie. A Leap of Faith also gives a welcome lesson about skepticism and not giving a pass to "reassuring" faith that would not be lost on our fellow AFers. And finally, there was a two-parter conflict that gave us an absolutely amazing fight scene that wouldn't have looked out of place on an episode of DBZ.
Bring on season 5!
QuoteAlso starting to recognize more of the fan stuff, like how Cheerilee and Big Mac seem to be together more often and she blushes at him and such, shipping galore.
Scootaloo: "Awww, come on!" heh. That was great.
If you don't already know, TV tropes gives excellent recaps on every episode (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic) and they unerringly point out the fandom shout-outs and adult humor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chvkt1Jrc4Q) that tends to pass under the radar.
Has season 5 started yet?
I just got to episode 19 on Season 4, looking forward to the end episodes you mentioned, kind of a shame that I ended up watching long after most of the hubbub died down, I've seen rumors that the show might end with season 6 or 7.
I freaking knew that was Weird Al, I didn't see his name come up (the site I'm using for watching isn't known for the best quality) but I recognized his voice somehow, even though it wasn't his usual voice. Good episode that.
Daring Doo was BA though I still like Dash better, Doo is the Indiana Jones of Equestria though, give her props there.
So far my favorite episode are the Hearts and hooves one, the CMC talent show one, and that one when Dash tried to do another Sonic Rainboom, fucking sweet.
I need to look at those recaps, though I'm afraid I'll fall into the shipping clique, I already want those two to end up together...Oh please internet, don't turn me into a tumblrite!!
....I also ship Dash and the third member of the Wonderbolts whose wing got damaged in the Equestria Games and whose name I can't recall
Edit: at the last few episodes of Season four now, kind of want to avoid watching them so I don't end the series :P
So uh hydra, I finished season 4
I can't find an image to properly display my reaction to it all, but
IT WAS FUCKING SWEET
Oh wait, now I'm caught up and they haven't released the new season, and its not due until 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-AOwd_sFUA
There's always the monthly top 10 fan video compilation and wild mass guessing threads about season 5.
I'm flank deep in the Fallout Equestria stuff right now. The writer was prolific to say the least. And it seems more or less in keeping with both universes, which is quite a feat and more than a little disturbing.
I've replaced sleep and food with a rationed diet of party time mint-als and I've hardly even fleebed anybee diffranger.
I've had bad experiences with fan fiction in the past, the first one I ever read was cupcakes when I was like 15, I've also read one additional brony one about Lyra and Cheeriliee being a couple, no thanks.
Bedsides those I read a bunch of wow ones, mass effect ones, and a halo or two, some were good like FE, but most were pretty bad, and more often tan not devolved into eroticism, you know how that goes.
I've had to keep my watching of the series quiet from my folks, they would be horrified if they knew about that kind of thing. (I always keep odd things form them, this, the fact that I was dating a black girl, and for the longest time my atheism) so I'm wary of getting too deep into the fandom at the moment lest my mouth slip you know?
But I'm drfinaatelt going to speculate on season 5, I think eventually one of the CMCs will get her mark which will cause a rift in the group, you might see some more romantic pairing, and there might be a straight up change in marks for someone, like someone's destiny completely changing
They might also end up fighting a living representation of complete disharmony, a complete opposite of their representation of harmony, perhaps they won't be able to beat this avatar and hae to find a way to beat him without relying solely on their harmonic magic
Youse guys still tawkin' about this?
Here's Starscream mounting Megatron.
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ce_VOlRTT_8/hqdefault.jpg)
Quote from: the_antithesis on November 10, 2014, 12:45:26 PM
Youse guys still tawkin' about this?
Here's Starscream mounting Megatron.
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ce_VOlRTT_8/hqdefault.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq1_6D9QS9Y
The untold story of what happened to Optimus when they rebuilt him
Quote from: PickelledEggs on October 25, 2014, 11:47:27 PM
I don't like the sun. I go outside when it's dark out.
This one's for you Eggs. BOC made vampires cool before vampires were cool.......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdtK4dxYl5o
Quote from: Desdinova on November 11, 2014, 01:05:19 PM
This one's for you Eggs. BOC made vampires cool before vampires were cool.......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdtK4dxYl5o
I love Blue Oyster Cult.
Speaking of vampires...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gts2yGraydk
Yep, both songs are from that album. Maybe my favorite by them. Nosferatu is probably the better song, but "I Love the Night" has that haunting feeling to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTWK_efnbT8
Supposedly this was based off of "just died in your arms tonight"
Still sounds awesome
I like the dubstep remix of that song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGs7cPJM5tw
I'll have to give that one a listen, haven't heard it yet
Just remember, never underestimate the power of scootaloo
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on November 12, 2014, 06:17:42 PM
Just remember, never underestimate the power of scootaloo
(http://i.imgur.com/mJg3kXX.gif)
(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121222001047/clubpenguin/images/thumb/9/9f/640px-Rainbow_Dash_looks_to_the_left_S3E2.png/670px-16,657,0,360-640px-Rainbow_Dash_looks_to_the_left_S3E2.png)
We don't talk about that pre fim crap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwyIR598a_s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obSq7_Tw_ic
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on November 13, 2014, 09:57:03 AM
We don't talk about that pre fim crap
all good things have to come from a gross murky bog before evolution can make it something pretty.
I like that munch
Also I forgot to mention I got frisked three times aft the airport last week, so if anypony brings the big bad government down on is it will be me
*flittershy voice* I'm sorry
Be honest, you laughed when 3.5 scootaloo ran over angel bunny and hit diamond tiara with a glass bottle.
Yeah, DT deserves it
Sorry I didn't mention it sooner hydra, I really like your profile pic
Gamer Luna is best Luna. :P
(kinda makes sense, given that she works the graveyard shift)
It does, gotta be boring at that time o' the night all by your lonesome
On watching a documentary on this phenomenon (I forgot which one), I was surprised to see some 'bronies' are actually incredibly macho men.
Perhaps when an ultra-masculine, steroid-shooting, iron-pumping, Harley-driving male enjoys My Little Pony, it's something like getting in touch with his Jungian anima. (Not that I give much credence to Jungian analysis.) :eyes:
I'm a completely hetero dude and I don't look like the type that would watch it in real life, but I thoroughly enjoy it, its a good show
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on November 15, 2014, 03:16:23 PMIt does, gotta be boring at that time o' the night all by your lonesome
Yeah, but she also keeps busy as a dream-walker therapist. Talk about secrets laid bare. Probably a bit awkward, too.
My headcanon has her as Canterlot's spymaster and defense against the dark arts professor. Sort of the cloak and dagger to Celestia's more conventional duties as the more public face of the diarchy.
Head canon is the best canon
Luna doesn't have the outright strength of Celestia anymore, if she ever did, so it would make sense for her to use her mind to make an impressive covert defense for Equestria, especially as how she could infiltrate dreams and gather information (if you've ever read The wheel of time, they do something similar in the dream world, which has its own name)
...my head canon also has multiple relationships and twilight as having the greatest potential power of the four princesses.
also Owlicious secretly serves Luna..yes
Here's the biggest question Hydra, how old are the mane six?
Just be yourself, other.people's baggage does not have to be yours. I catch a lot of shit for liking ABBA It is your life not theirs.
My favourite show used to be Hannah Montana, so I'm not going to judge anyone for liking My Little Pony. I watched an episode and it's actually pretty decent. I don't see where all the hate comes from. It's not like it's ABBA or something.
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on November 17, 2014, 06:16:16 PMHere's the biggest question Hydra, how old are the mane six?
Afaik, when the story starts, they're all young adults (18-20ish), and at least several months go by per season since seasonal holidays come and go. Canonically, Fluttershy is a year older than Pinkie. And though this could just be their youthful demeanor, but I think that Pinkie and Rainbow Dash are the young ones in the group. But even so, the age spread is probably only a couple years between all six of them.
Afaik, the CMC are all preteens (11-12ish) and cutie marks typically happen at that age or a few years after, since most of their class has them and the cutie mark celebration party was jokingly called cute-ceañera (a pun on Quinceañera, a girl's 15th birthday)
Additionally, Celestia and Luna are at least a thousand years old (possibly several times that) and Celestia is slightly older than Luna.
I can agree with that. I always had Applejack and Twilight as the oldest of the six, and I lean towards Applejack being older (Her being allowed to go to the equivalency of New York City by herself during Sonic Rainboom indicated she was at least 13 or so) than Twilight.
People argue that they're 13-16 but that sounds way off to me, the fact that they all have jobs and live on their own proves that they're at least adult aged, probably closer to 20 than to 18 as well. And it would make sense for Dash to be the youngest, given her appearance as being one of if not the smallest in the flashbacks, and it might also attribute to her ultra-competitive attitude, the youngest tries to make themselves noticed around the oldest by outdoing them at everything.
As for the CMC, I had them around 11 or 12 too, spot on with that. Come to think of it, I don't think Applebloom had been born yet by the time AJ left for Manehattan, which alone would indicate that 12 or so years had passed since then, she could be as old as her mid-twenties if that is taken into consideration. (Which would mean that characters like Cheerilee and Big Mac would be in their early thirties/late twenties)
One thing is for sure, they're older than 17 by a long shot.
The 100th episode is going to be all about background characters, the fandom is going to erupt over that
Just heard flutterwonder playing on the radio at Kroger, call the presses, Kroger supports and endorses mlp
Can't believe I never posted this earlier, but imho this is the best pmv out there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRhRaWNaSPM
That is pretty damn good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43PMK8j6Voc
Just gonna leave this here
Almoat let it slip that I watch it to my folks early, covered it up by saying adventure time
Saved!
I mean I watched Negima! That was really cute-sy but it was pretty good at the same time. let's make an army of bronies that hack television sets to only show MLP on the television sets of people that are anti-bronies. I don't even watch MLP and I think that's a good idea.
I don't get what the big deal is about Adventure Time btw... I mean... so what?
I prefer Bravest warriors personally, buy my folks accept it as a better, more manly show than MLP, Its okay, but I've never gotten super into it.
Hack the non-bronies, nah, but the haters, oh yeah. But I'm of the opinion that as long as they don't hurt anyone, someone can be a fan of any silly show or anime. It makes em happy, so give it to em
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/112/d/1/join_the_herd__royal_wedding__by_grumbeerkopp-d4x7ztf.png)
My long time school friend is a major anime and manga nut, and aside from liking Hayao Miyazaki's works, I've never been a fan of any other form of anime. Yet i humor him when he talks none stop about the latest anime shows he's gotten into.
Bronies fall into the same catagory as those interested in anime, furries, comic books, horror, or even there porn collection, its whats interesting to them, and unless the interest involves harm to people or things irl, theres no harm in it. And if someone gets offended by them, just follow what Stephen fry says, tell them "Well so fucking what"
"BOO! MORE LAZERS!"
Seriously, best one in a long time -_-
Derpy makes everything a bit more surreal
And now you know why she better get her muffins
Quote from: Munch on December 15, 2014, 06:52:09 PMBronies fall into the same catagory as those interested in anime, furries, comic books, horror, or even there porn collection, its whats interesting to them, and unless the interest involves harm to people or things irl, theres no harm in it. And if someone gets offended by them, just follow what Stephen fry says, tell them "Well so fucking what"
This plus a million. I just really wish people would get it into their heads that other people can have their own interests and derive the same joy and entertainment out of them that you would your own interests and that it's not "wrong" of them to like something that you personally might not care for.
Society is filled with hypocrites who love to make themselves known at every turn
Remember folks, its alright to be obsessed with Redneck racists...
(http://lifesablog.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/duck-dynasty-16.jpg)
...An sex-tape start turned Celebrity (somehow)...
(http://www.hdwallpapers.in/walls/kim_kardashian_40-wide.jpg)
Or sports, Especially sports!...
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Than it is to watch/play/read any game/anime/show that dares show its own uniqueness, or heaven forbid, enforce morals like love, tolerance, and loyalty, because only the bible is supposed to do that!
Yes but those people who watch duck dynasty are the same as theists, as in they should all be put on an island and given nothing but sharp sticks.
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on December 15, 2014, 06:06:38 PM
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Is this thread still going?
Ok... I'll bite. Whats a good episode to get started on?
I started with season 1, ep1, pretty good, but I also watched clips before hand.
The season 4 finale was one of the best episodes of the series, but that's like skipping to the very end of the show, maybe hydra has a good one to recommend, but I say episode 1
Hey Hydra, Hasbro Greenlit an actual MLP movie, possibly theatrical, that will be the actual characters, not EG stuff.
Neat
Season 1, Episode 1. Establishes the characters and includes extremely important background/setting info.
But season 1, episode 4 (Applebuck Season) establishes the general formula of the show and the animation norms.
Quote from: Hydra009 on December 31, 2014, 04:27:07 PM
Season 1, Episode 1. Establishes the characters and includes extremely important background/setting info.
But season 1, episode 4 (Applebuck Season) establishes the general formula of the show and the animation norms.
Ep 4 is a good episode too
Just don't watch mare-do-well, probably my least favorite episode
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on January 01, 2015, 10:24:43 PMJust don't watch mare-do-well, probably my least favorite episode
Yeah. Me, too. Dash goes from being being slightly arrogant to Kanye arrogant. And her friends kinda act like jealous assholes. And the town is beset with an inexplicably high amount of disasters in a very short span of time. It's a mess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9MFv4Xk12E
The whole episode just screams mediocre, It was the only episode I never watched all the way through, I was like "Yup, fuck this shit"
Kanye level arrogance? I like that expression
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on December 15, 2014, 08:49:55 PM
Derpy makes everything a bit more surreal
And now you know why she better get her muffins
its like I am reading Russian or sumpin…….you guys are just a little on the other side of …odd… but in a nice fluffy, cinnamon odd….kinda
We're atheists, the majority of the world considers us odd, watching MLP can't really make us any more odd haha
plus I happen to heartily enjoy both being an atheist and watching mlp
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Quote from: GrinningYMIR on January 01, 2015, 11:28:21 PMplus I happen to heartily enjoy both being an atheist and watching mlp
Remember Feeling Pinkie Keen when ardently skeptical and analytical Twilight says "Just because I don't understand doesn't mean it's not true!"
*double facehoofs*
Just goes to show that not all the morals the show teaches are actually good morals. We got a reversal in Leap of Faith but damn, Feeling Pinkie Keen's ending was a doozy, and not in a good way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMLNEZYcRdI
Could you imagine Hasbro letting anti-religious stuff through? They'd face a backlash nearly as big as when Derpy had a speaking roll, the fans would probably react worse to that upcoming ship-crushing episode in season 5, but the rest of 'Merica, would shit their collective religious pants over it
Celestia and Luna are basically Demi-gods anyway, there's probably some meta emphasis that Harmony and Disharmony are the essential Gods of MLP, though they are not traditional Gods, fit for a debate
Still, I do wish they kept Twilight as her skeptical self, Pinkie's stuff could just be a weird magic that only manifests every so often. but I could also see why she was like "Fuck it, I'm done" at the end of the episode
I agree.
Oh, and while the thread's active, I just want to say that I finished Fallout Equestria. 10/10. Certified Epic.
It starts out kinda weak, but I swear to Celestia, every chapter gets better and more engrossing. After the team is assembled, it's basically impossible to put down. Good setting, good plot, well-developed characters who consistently act in character, awesome action with some really disturbing scenes and some really humorous moments and even some romance. It's pretty much everything anyone could hope for in a fanfic. And that ending. I cried like a little filly.
I started reading it again in progressively smaller doses every day just to not quit cold turkey. I've since decided to try out Project Horizons next.
Well keep this thread going as long as we're still interested! Which we are at the moment.
Good Celestia, they finally finished fallout? I really need I to read that now
Haven heard of project horizons, is it any good?
By the moon I shall eventually finish my ff! I swear to Luna I'll see it finishe and good! Anypony who says otherwise can go to Tartarus!
Should probably sleep first though, conking out as I'm typing this :P feels like when scoots was fighting sleep only I'm not afraid, Im interneted
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on January 02, 2015, 01:05:33 AMHaven heard of project horizons, is it any good?
No idea. I'll let you know when I know.
QuoteBy the moon I shall eventually finish my ff! I swear to Luna I'll see it finishe and good! Anypony who says otherwise can go to Tartarus!
I recommend the audio series (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBX-BvTh7SMC_NGlshPVbWEPJSCy0fTI9). (I'm a very slow reader and this is a very long series, so I had to use it to keep a decent pace. At only 62 hours, it's still a beast to get through.)
The recitations are kinda choppy, especially in the first few videos, and he does goof a line every blue moon, but the guy apparently recites an hour's worth of story or more all in one sitting (madness!) all while doing different voices (the madness has been doubled!). Serious props.
Once I finished with that I'm on now I'll give it a try, might put it on my ipod and listen to it like an audiobook.
Recently watched a mini-movie version of My little dashie, and it was surprisingly good. The comic version of it was arguably better, but the people in the movie version did a good job considering, plus the VA's were pretty spot on. Filly dash is almost too adorable to keep your sanity too.
I am consistently impressed with fan fiction writers, a lot of them are just awful but many of them do really good jobs with what they're trying to do.
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Is it bad that I laughed at this?
I like Project Horizons. It's not quite as amazing as Fallout Equestria (a very hard act to follow), but it's a solid side story, and the main protagonist is also easy to empathize with. Although there's less emotional anguish, it's a much darker and gorier story. There have been a couple moments that actually shocked me, and I'm not easily shocked. And the same YouTuber who read Fallout Equestria aloud did a superb job on Project Horizons. He has improved a lot.
I tried reading Heroes, but it suffers from a lot of extremely noticeable spelling/grammar errors. It's littered with it's/its errors and other errors bad enough to make it difficult to decipher some sentences. It's still a work in progress, so hopefully it'll get cleaned up after completion. It seems like a decent enough story otherwise.
I do like good plot twists, stop with all the good stories! I already have a back log!!
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I can't read that fast!
Successfully defended Luna's claim tonight Hydra, though the garrison was sorely pressed against the onslaught, the men are low on morale, and we need more forces if we are to hope to defend for the second night.
Long live Princess Luna, Glory to the Republic!
We are confused but intrigued. What are thou referring to?
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Hello, boys.
As of here forth now, all your base are belong to Lana.
(I'm going to be honest, I really wanted to shoop Lana's face onto a pony and be all like, "I'm totally not Lana infiltrating yo' threads"... but I was too lazy.)
Quote from: Hydra009 on January 06, 2015, 12:32:35 AM
We are confused but intrigued. What are thou referring to?
A short time ago, Republic forces annexed a thread on here in the name of our Lady, the garrison there has come under heavy assault since then, and barely held out last night, we are requesting aid for our ponies and humans under siege.
Quote from: Shiranu on January 06, 2015, 03:19:14 AM
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Hello, boys.
As of here forth now, all your base are belong to Lana.
(I'm going to be honest, I really wanted to shoop Lana's face onto a pony and be all like, "I'm totally not Lana infiltrating yo' threads"... but I was too lazy.)
this is the Brony thread Shir, always ponies. As for you and Lana, well
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One last thing before the thread goes back to being buried, I like this part of the fandom
As much as I absolutely LOVE the concept for the NLR, some bronies really don't like Celestia being vilified in the fandom and don't fully understand the absurdity of it all given the canon. The premise of Luna leading a coup d'etat against her sister is ridiculous. It's all in good fun. But yeah, Celestia is often a troll or a tyrant or a serial rapist in the fandom. It gives the false impression that bronies hate her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANkmhbED9R4
She's not very fleshed out in the show (neither is Luna, come to think of it), but we do know that she's a shrewd politician with long-term machinations. (her tutelage of Twilight, for example - it's crazy just how much stuff she put into motion just by telling Twilight to make some friends. It set the stage for the battle with Nightmare Moon, for starters) She's a stern but merciful mentor, prefers an informal style, and has a fondness for pranks. And Discord really brings out her anger. Other than that, not much is known about her.
Molestia, she's interesting.
Ever read the Wheel of Time? There's a character in it that reminds me a lot of Celestia, she is definitively on the side of good yet is still very mysterious. Just like Celestia she has been in power for a very long time, as long as many of the characters can remember in fact. (Mirrors how Celestia has been in power for so long that everyone has just gotten used to her being there) She is always plotting something or another, and people are always being subtly manipulated in order to accomplish her long-term goals. Again like Celestia sending Twilight to Ponyville.
One of the aspects I like, and plan to use, is the aspect that people/ponies are growing tired of her always being in power, because she decides whatever happens and no one can stand against it, its a benevolent dictatorship, but a dictatorship nonetheless. And, because she is still a living creature, not the god that she seems to be, she is susceptible to her own biases, so something that doesn't fit her profile of good is evil.
Obviously that's not how it works in the show, I like how Celestia more or less lets things run as they should unless all hell breaks loose, in which case she steps in to fix it.
And as a side note, which do you prefer, swords and sorcery in the FF's or guns and Sorcery? I feel like Equestria wouldn't have advanced too far in the realm of military science, given that they haven't fought too many conflicts
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on January 07, 2015, 06:26:52 PMI like how Celestia more or less lets things run as they should unless all hell breaks loose, in which case she steps in to fix it.
Celestia fixing things? Pssht! That's what Twilight is for.
A single dragon sleeping in a cave near Ponyville somehow creating smoke all over Equestria? Twilight to the rescue!
Discord? Go do that maze thing while Luna and I sit back and not find the Elements of Harmony.
Chrysalis? Out for the count. Up to you, Twilight!
Tirek? Go Twilight!
The only time that Celestia fixed anything was when Twilight started going nuts in Lesson Zero.
QuoteAnd as a side note, which do you prefer, swords and sorcery in the FF's or guns and Sorcery? I feel like Equestria wouldn't have advanced too far in the realm of military science, given that they haven't fought too many conflicts
Tanks and bullets have entered the lexicon, though. Maybe there was a conflict in the distant past...
shhh...don't let her hear you Hydra, big sister is always watching.
Maybe, could just be a writing oversight though. Plus the Royal Guards are wearing scale mail, armor wouldn't be around if it were a modern war, unless it was a future war.
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Quote from: GrinningYMIR on January 07, 2015, 08:28:41 PMMaybe, could just be a writing oversight though.
The bullet one almost certainly was, the tank thing was pretty deliberate. There are flashlights and computers as well. Word of God is that the tech levels jump around for ease of storytelling, but the resulting internal inconsistency is pretty jarring.
QuotePlus the Royal Guards are wearing scale mail, armor wouldn't be around if it were a modern war, unless it was a future war.
That's actually lorica segmentata (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorica_segmentata), not scale.
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Really?
Curse you and your superior knowledge of medieval and iron age equipment modified for Ponies.
for my purposes I'll go with the theory that tech evolved non-militarily, which explains how they could be so advanced as to have trains and stuff, but don't have automotive capabilities, modern weapons, or even a computer.
Plus as soon as they invented AA guns the Pegasi would be pretty much screwed
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on January 07, 2015, 09:48:56 PMReally?
Curse you and your superior knowledge of medieval and iron age equipment modified for Ponies.
I really like Greco-Roman everything. And mlp has tons of Greek references. So when I saw guard ponies, I immediately noticed that they looked awfully familiar.
Other interesting factoids:
Princess Celestia was originally envisioned as a queen until Hasbro made Faust change it. Boo. Hiss.
Canterlot was modeled after Minas Tirith.
Ponyville was originally going to be called Fillydelphia
Until she got a pet, Rainbow Dash was the only one of the mane six to live alone.
I like Ponyville better I think and I knew RBD was a loner, she hardly ever sleeps at her house anyway. I feel like Canterlot should have a little more ground to its west, having a sudden drop of doom is hazardous, ask Emperor Palpatine.
I think I also heard that the mane six were supposed to have different names based on gen 1 stuff, but Hasbro didn't renew the licenses on the originals so Faust had to make up the names on her own.
Also still hoping Scootaloo eventually learns how to fly completely
Edit:
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No idea why but I burst out laughing when I saw this, rather awkward too as seeing as I was in class
My only problem with Ponyville is that it just sounds so generic. Imagine a story set in Humansburg. Yeah, not very appealing.
And after rewatching some of (okay, most of) the episodes, one thing is kinda bugging me. There are virtually no compelling male protagonists whatsoever. It's like inverse Star Wars. Yeah, there's Spike, and he's actually an incredibly loyal and dutiful kidnapped child laborer (he's basically Theon Greyjoy minus the resentment). And he does have his moments of awesomeness, but 90% of the time, he's a punching bag or comic relief. He is borderline abused by Twilight. I actually feel bad for the guy most of the time. There's Big Mac, who goes from being level-headed and taciturn to this flanderized wreck that only ever says Eeyup and Nooope. Silent Bob had more of a speaking role. Filli Vanilla is the only episode where you can see him having a life outside of his family. All we know about Soarin' is that he loves apple pie and that he felt bad about pretending to be injured because his team wanted somepony else. Starswirl the Bearded seems pretty awesome, but we never actually get to see any of that because he's long dead. Flash Sentry is essentially nothing but a love interest. We have 4 female alicorns, and yet not a single male alicorn unless you count animation errors.
Suddenly, I'm starting to sympathize with feminists complaining about token/underdeveloped female characters in 90% male shows.
I see your point, still Fillydelphia would seem more of a city type thing, and less of a town.
I know its supposed to be a girl's show and all, but I do wish there were more male protagonists, like you said. There's the whole joke that 5 out of every 6 Ponies will be female, but for a while that appeared to be the true statistic and not a joke. Hence all of the homosexual shippings, there aren't enough males in the show for there to be anything else.
Big Mac went from quiet and somber at the beginning of the show to what he is now, a walking Eeyup button. I swear the last time he had any lines of length was when he was yelling at the CMC's in like season 2. He even got cut off by his Grandma when he was trying to explain something in Season 4, which annoyed me. Technically Shining armor could be considered one, but he's only in like 2 episodes, and he isn't even the focal point of the ones that he's in.
If we could get some more male input other than the occasional "Eeyup, YEAH!", or spike adventure I would really appreciate it. And I like Soarin' its just annoying that one of the few male pegasi we see talking is divulged into virtual nothingness.
Also, discovered yesterday that comic meme series about hurting your waifu, and a couple of them legitimately depressed me, particularly this one French story/comic about Vinyl Scratch, that was depressing as hell
(found this earlier, already posted in the music thread, but I figured I'd post it here too. Really good song)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nfmdongnxQ
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on January 09, 2015, 02:57:30 PMIf we could get some more male input other than the occasional "Eeyup, YEAH!", or spike adventure I would really appreciate it.
I would be tickled pink if in season 5, we get an adventure episode (or even a two-parter) with a competent male secondary character. Anything along those lines would be great.
Or better yet, some diplomatic intrigue. A pony republic independent from Equestria has a large but heavily underrepresented griffin population. Tensions flare and civil war looms. Both Equestria and the Griffin Empire send diplomatic envoys. Naturally, Celestia sends Twilight and co. The proverbial crap hits the fan during their elections and the mane six are caught in a power struggle between the two would-be leaders who are mutually opposed and unwilling to compromise (think Londo and G'Kar from Babylon 5). And we could tack on a moral lesson at the end. Something along the lines of "Friends don't let friends commit war crimes" or something. Might have to workshop that a touch.
Friends don't let friends commit war crimes? Damn, friendship just jumped a level in seriousness.
I know we're getting an episode where one of the mane six, I think PP, is getting a boyfriend (coltfriend) so that's at least one episode with a bit of male influence. But I wouldn't mind seeing a male hero or a male soldier or something, even if it was shining armor coming down to visit for a while, maybe to help Twilight officially move into her new Castle or something, and then some pony assassins come, or Chrysalis comes back I don't know. Discord doesn't count, Fuck discord.
and I might be alone here, but I hate the griffins in MLP, I have no idea why, but I utterly despise them in every form, its like they don't belong at all, at least to me anyway.
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on January 10, 2015, 09:22:08 AMDiscord doesn't count, Fuck discord.
I sort of liked him as the token evil teammate, but as 100% good guy, I don't see him as ever being a force to be reckoned with again (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RedemptionDemotion). Spike could probably take him at this point.
Quoteand I might be alone here, but I hate the griffins in MLP, I have no idea why, but I utterly despise them in every form, its like they don't belong at all, at least to me anyway.
I actually really like the griffons. They make interesting foils for the ponies, especially the pegasi, since they can also cloudwalk and presumably also live in the clouds. They seem more ferocious (omnivorous?) and somewhat culturally different from the ponies (no cutie marks), though some are integrated in Equestrian society. They also participate in the equestrian games, so we know that Equestria has diplomatic ties with at least one griffon community.
(edit - dammit, the show consistently spells it griffon while the mythological creatures can be spelled as griffin or griffon or gryphon. So I'm going with griffon from here on out for the mlp creatures)
Ol' discord isn't quite the Lord of Chaos that he used to be.
I always get mixed up when I spell Griffin/Gryphon, its really self annoying when you write the same word, spelled two different ways (both of which are correct) in the same paragraph. Still, I don't particularly like the Griffins, it might be that I don't think they fit, even if they are good foils for the ponies. Also, doesn't the heart's warming thing imply that essentially all of the ponies are burying their negative emotions? As in collectively? Because of the Windegoes if that story is to be believed.
That sort of thing didn't work out too well in Wow, can't imagine it working out in Mlp either.
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Lastly, found a fan comic that's pretty good, not award winning, but worth a read from me, (it has my favorite characters as the forefront, how could it not be?) But alas, there is always the fact that I eat up the content and the next part won't be due for months.
*ahem*
I NEED IT NOW DAMMIT! THAT AND SEASON 5!
You know that feeling you get when you play the first game in a series that came out years ago? Like playing Red Alert after playing all of RA2 and RA3? Kinda getting that with season 1 MLP, almost seems archaic o.0, in terms of story development that is. Doesn't help that I'm watching a crappy version of it with headphones
I liked the Aloe and Lotus song. Very soothing, though that makes sense. Here are some of my faves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc8xcgrY46U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqB1MbXSeGk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMhIB09MHhI
I like that first song a lot, very atmospheric. Man I wish I could draw/create music like these folks, my hands just don't want to work with what my brain has in mind.
One problem I have with Fan Fics, of which I've been reading more of, is that a lot of them either take too long to start up, or go immediately into action, both of which are annoying. A good medium is the place to be, but it is understandable that there aren't too many that can reach this level easily
Somehow managed to have 9 bronies follow me on G+, which I rarely use. Guess that's what happens when you defend people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmVWvOC_2HU
Oddly catchy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUmqhApH3eg
Awww yeah! Damn I love SFM videos.
That was really well done, and the music was awesome! the fact that it matched up perfectly was really impressive too 0.o
and Pinkamena is still disturbing o.o
RBD is supposed to have her own song in the next season! I know I might be a bit biased towards her but I'm kind of excited for that, she's one of the singers we hear the least of but she has a decent voice.
and of course it will be 20% cooler :P
(had to do it)
Love your reference to the sha, and the pandaren and them holding in there emotions. You know the conclusion to mists really made me realize how much I disliked the whole concept of that expansion, also how the story tried to make us feel guilty because our 'emotions' made the sha appear, yet we saw how the shado-pan were emotional doucgebags themselves when we meet them, so yeah, that story made bollock all sense.
pretty landscape, but yeah, fuck you pandas
I liked and dislike MOP, it was better in a lot of respect to Cata but at the same time things about it annoyed me, like the dailies, so many god damn dailies. The story was alright, but I honestly preferred the deathwing storyline, as much as I disliked Garrosh he didn't really give the epic villain vibe to me. The pandas annoyed me from the start, the emotion thing was okay and I actually liked the Sha because they were part of the Old God mythos which is one of my favorite plotlines in WoW. (7 heads of Yssarg, I know I didn't spell it right)
I've heard that Warlords is okay, but I haven't played any of it yet. WoW will always have a special place in my heart though, I played it for over a decade haha, 2004-2014 :P
Plus wow had Monara, sweet Monara...
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Arthas Pony!
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I heard somepony likes mlp webcomics. I recommend StableQuest (http://stablequest.com/post/70611717389/you-see-a-screen-in-front-of-you-you-feel), an interactive Fallout Equestria comic (have I mentioned lately how much I love that setting?)
The comic is interactive in the sense that the community collectively makes choices which are then reflected in the latest comic. It's not interactive in the sense that you can submit responses for comic #1 and alter the outcome of comic #2, since by the time comic #2 is out, voting in comic #1 has closed and the community choices in response to comic #1 are set in stone. Nor can you click on the comic as you would a flash game, like I've tried to do more than once. I am not a smart pony.
The format is kinda strange until you get used to it - the first part consists of select responses from the community (vote tallies, especially humorous responses, etc) from the previous comic, then the new comic (which typically involves at least one choice). At first, I thought the community responses were dialog within the comic. Again, I am not a smart pony.
Ooh, interactive, I like that idea. Everypony getting a lead in on it might be a cool thing too. Reminds me of Homestuck, I didn't like homestuck, but the concept of it was really cool.
I'll give it a look, my bag log is getting way filled now haha, everpony keeps telling me to read/watch new things, and I'm eager to see it all
I went and bronied up my main orc shaman from wow.
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The herd welcomes you!
Nice Stallion too
zug zug
this is just what would happen if my orc stepped though a portal he comes across, probably opened when derpy knocked over some potions, and him stepping though turning him into one
He is welcome in Equestria, we never turn anypony away, unless they're an asshole, and then its off to Tartarus!
What if I want to hang out with discord and turn diamond tiara into farm equipment?
*crosses arms* have you been watching the show? hmmm?
Sadly we need DT alive for now, her dad helps run the economy Ponyville
Quote from: Munch on January 14, 2015, 04:46:58 AMWhat if I want to hang out with discord and turn diamond tiara into farm equipment?
That's fine and she's already a hoe. :P
And come to think of it, southern Equestria is a lot like Durotar-Barrens-Mulgore, complete with sentient buffalo. It even has its own Badlands.
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on January 13, 2015, 09:08:17 PM
He is welcome in Equestria, we never turn anypony away, unless they're an asshole, and then its off to Tartarus!
Is this being an asshole?
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Sylvanas Hoofrunner
Quote from: Desdinova on January 14, 2015, 01:42:07 PM
Is this being an asshole?
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Rainbow Dash disapproves
Quote from: Desdinova on January 14, 2015, 01:42:07 PMIs this being an asshole?
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IIRC, there actually is glue in MLP. Presumably, it's made from different materials.
Since I look in on this thread from time to time I just couldn't resist.
I've had a good time with this thread, its been really fun actually
I know we've already said it, but I must reiterate my distaste for the mysterious mare do well, one of the episodes that revolves around my favorite character, and she, along with everypony else, becomes a bitch
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Dash's main positive trait (besides authenticity and loyalty) is confidence. She believes in herself and inspires confidence in others. And while Dash has always been confident bordering on arrogant, that was a very mean-spirited way to humble Dash. And the Mare Do Well antics quickly went from deflating her ego to actually hurting her self-confidence.
And speaking of Dashed dreams, how about the Wonderbolts? Dash almost drops out of the Wonderbolts Academy in protest, then she's deceived by them in Rainbow Falls (they exaggerated an injury to get Dash on their team, depriving the Ponyville team of its best flier, an episode which practically vilified them), then she's taking a test to get into the Wonderbolts Reserves. She's on quite the roller coaster with them! The rest of the mane six are well on their way to achieving their dreams (Twilight's definitely in the lead there, with Rarity not far behind), but Dash's dream seems to be permanently stymied.
Dashed dreams..heh heh
Like you said, Dash is loyal and believes in her own abilities and the abilities of others. Mare do Well was supposed to be a "hey, don't be arrogant" thing, but instead it came off as a confidence crushing abandonment episode.
She has a hero worship for the Wonderbolts, she idolizes them utterly, ignoring their faults. They were more than willing to abandon Soarin and take her on after they convinced both of them he couldn't fly. She's trying to get into the reserves despite the fact that she has shown discomfort in their ranks. And on top of that, the Wonderbolts showed a lack of tactical ability when they attacked Tirek head on (seriously, what in their right mind convinced them to attack a being who literally sucks the magic out of everything directly?)
I imagine they'll make her a Wonderbolt eventually, maybe in the last episode when they all go their separate ways but remain friends, because you know that's how they'll end it. But I'm hoping she eventually learns that being a Wonderbolt isn't all its cracked up to be, and she'll realize that even though she doesn't have the fancy uniform, she's a true representation of what a pegasi should be. Even if she's cocky.
Also, after a shitty day, the show makes for a good pick me up :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ5mqXgSmhY
Have some Scootaloo T-T
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Luna is a adorable too, probably one of my top 10 favorites in the show
I'm not sure if this belongs in here or on the Dafuq thread, but I was wandering around the community page I'm part of and I saw a thread on RP (Tis a Brony page obviously) and I'm like okay, this looks interesting. I pulled one of these
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MLP..Slave..ERP
Eeyup, time to go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1P7Q5LZTX8&feature=youtu.be
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I've made it to season 2, and I have to admit, it puts me in a relatively good mood which makes it easier to sleep.
Glad to hear it, its made me less depressed in recent months. And it gets better every season
I'm happy you've enjoyed it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8JCX9E0bEI
The theories have begun !
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WHAT IS THIS ABOMINATION?!
The toy line generally has only a loose connection to the show, for some unfathomable reason. Took them forever to make a Princess Celestia that wasn't pink and a Princess Luna that didn't look like a palette-swapped Rarity with wings.
But I managed to snag a show-accurate Princess Luna figurine as a Christmas gift to myself:
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Quote from: GrinningYMIR on February 28, 2015, 10:53:27 AM
WHAT IS THIS ABOMINATION?!
This is what happens when they sell the rights to MLP to Stephenie Meyer
(My like button isn't working for some reason)
Hydra I am jealous XP I really want a dash plushie and I'm afraid my folks would destroy it in front of me XPP
And munch: that made me laugh reallly really hard XD
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YES! That is awesome!! XDDD
OMG thats perfect XD
Even with my perfect bearing, I laughed at that.
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684 hours left everypony, season 5 arrives
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Soon..
As an equally ardent MLP and GoT fan, I'm pretty stoked about the near future.
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And thus this realization was brought unto me..and I rejoiced, for the sheer awesomeness of this...cannot be properly described.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ5mqXgSmhY
Can't remember if I posted this already but
The feels man T-T
For a moment I was under the impression that this was the How To Never Get Laid thread.. Be a Bronie!
This again? Dude I got laid by a pegasister, this show makes me happy, I know you hate it but you don't have to be a dick about it
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Just checking in on you guys. Everything looks normal, carry on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD-qWX_E_yE
If this was south park, or hotdiggedydemon, the ending would have been her slapping the kid telling her to get a job, then buying the violin to break it for the lols.
Kay, some of my brony/pegasister friends didn't know that the fandom started on 4chan, and when I told them they were horrified. They weren't surprised or anything, they were HORRIFIED. As if the entire fandom was now tainted because of its roots on 4chan. One girl even started to cry.
I was just sitting there going "Really? REALLY? you guys are being way too dramatic over this." I mean seriously. so you don't like 4chan, you don't have to fucking cry about the fact that it started there XP
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Its okay, you can offer them all a Fanta. Then after they drink it, tell them the drink was originally created because of nazi germany.
It really is stupid your friends think that way, yes, MLP is a nice friendly cartoon, yes it markets both to a young audience and an older audience alike. But just because ideas of it seeded from 4chan doesn't mean jack shit, infact you can use that to explain to them, saying "you do understand that the nicest of flowers and plants bloom from a bed of feces, right?"
Thank you!
That's what I told them, they still think its a bad thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52SGUiSLc3s
Feels overwhelming
T-T
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOMa1Kz8Ko8
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on March 13, 2015, 09:54:06 PM
Thank you!
That's what I told them, they still think its a bad thing
Well they're dumb fucks then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGyd0MaOHY8
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Good story.
yeah T-T
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I think the percentage of NAMBLA members who are Bronies is significantly higher than the general population, I'll just say that much
Quote from: Munch on October 24, 2014, 02:53:59 PM
But then against the haters, does it really bother people so much that adult men like a decently written cartoon series? I think MLP has better writing then most of the other cartoons out now, so there is no wrong is liking the series. I just couldn't become a brony in the militant sense as others have. Its kind of like, speaking as a gay guy, if someone came up to me and laughed say 'haha your a cock sucker', I'd just smile and say yeah, yeah I am, you should try it one time.
Big difference between 'liking something' and having a slightly morbid obsession with it.
I mean "The Godfather" is a good movie, but someone so obsessed with it that they play dress up and draw perverted artwork of Michael and Sonny Corleone - and more or less devote their whole online life to it would rightfully look like they've got a few screws loose. I don't think most psychologists would disagree here. There's a few "kiddie" shows, video games, etc which I like - but I definitely don't have a disproportionate, attention-seeking obsession with them - which is what the whole 'meme' is about anyway - it's not about 'liking the show', it's just about seeking negative attention.
I don't trust "Bronies" for the same reason people don't trust clowns, or Catholic Priests - when an adult seems a little too into children or things intended for children, that's sometimes indicative of an unhealthy psychology - like someone who never emotionally developed beyond that age range and can't appreciate anything else. Not to mention a "Brony community" would be a perfect way for a pedophile to seek out kids for grooming purposes.
Also don't understand all the talk about "haters" from this silly meme - since that implies people are actually "jealous" this in any way, when it's not far off from being a single adult "male" who lives with his mom still watches Barney. lol. Some people just thrive on negative attention I guess.
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on October 25, 2014, 09:59:19 PM
You guys really should go outside and experience sun and oxygen once in awhile.. I hear it also helps life exist..
And no..not some fucking cartoon of the sun and oxygen molecules..
True - regardless of all the pretense, the show was intended for young girls, and isn't very well written - the rest is just 'justification'. Enjoying something is one thing, but the entire point of the 'Brony cult' is just to seek negative attention and pretend it makes you an 'individual' when it really doesn't, and is extremely uncreative. No one would care if they 'watched' the awful show if they didn't flaunt it in a manner designed to seek attention. (Not to mention it's probably bad for testosterone levels).
Pokemon is awful also - the games were okay for what they were, but the show is about as coherant as one of those dime-a-dozen Hannah Barbara cartoons from the 70s - all it is is a bunch of 30 minute long commercials for the games and trading cards, and just like every other show or movie based off a video game, it sucks mucho dicko.
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on March 10, 2015, 10:47:11 AM
This again? Dude I got laid by a pegasister, this show makes me happy, I know you hate it but you don't have to be a dick about it
It was a thread asking for opinions on it, expecting only positive opinions when 99.99% of the population aren't going to have positive opinions on it (for obvious reasons) is kind of dumb.
If you got laid then good for you - personally I wouldn't want to limit my dating options to only underage girls, and the 10 adult women in the world who identify as "pegasisters" but that's just me.
Did you just compare us to Nambla?
So. The fact that it's a decent show has nothing to do with it?
And you automatically think im obsessed with it and never go out ever? It's a good show and I'm part of the fandom but it's not all that I am, it's just something I really enjoy. It's a show that makes people happy, just like Star Trek and game of thrones and any other show. The fact that it was originally intended for kids is irrelevant, and just an fyi the creator made it without an intended age in order to appeal to all members of the family, that's why it got so popular.
And awful? Not an awful show by any means.
And apparentely a show can have a decisive vibe on biological levels. Neat
And going outside? Ha. For six months I worked 40 hour workweeks in a warehouse at an outdoor shop, I go outside plenty.
And Nope, my dating options contain many more adult pegasisters than underage ones, the fact that you compare me to a pedo is downright insulting and if it could I would pull you across your little Internet anonymity safe desk and knock your teeth in
Finally, I'm surprised you decided to make a rant about this on an athesit forum, you probabkg found some MLP rule 34 and it but your delicate little feelings.
Quote from: Ace101 on March 31, 2015, 02:38:51 AMI don't trust "Bronies" for the same reason people don't trust clowns, or Catholic Priests - when an adult seems a little too into children or things intended for children, that's sometimes indicative of an unhealthy psychology - like someone who never emotionally developed beyond that age range and can't appreciate anything else. Not to mention a "Brony community" would be a perfect way for a pedophile to seek out kids for grooming purposes.
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It's literally just people liking a cartoon intended for general audiences, which if you've seen any Disney/Pixar viewership numbers, is actually an extremely common thing.
Troll score: 2/10.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCaHGPdHHCU
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 31, 2015, 09:58:34 AM
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It's literally just people liking a cartoon intended for general audiences, which if you've seen any Disney/Pixar viewership numbers, is actually an extremely common thing.
Troll score: 2/10.
Nope, it's like this difference between someone who enjoys watching football, and this guy:
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It's not intended for general audiences anyway, unless by the same standard shows like Barney and Teletubbies are.
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on March 31, 2015, 09:18:39 AM
So. The fact that it's a decent show has nothing to do with it?
Nope. It was invented by neckbeards on 4chan just to get attention.
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And you automatically think im obsessed with it and never go out ever? It's a good show and I'm part of the fandom but it's not all that I am, it's just something I really enjoy. It's a show that makes people happy, just like Star Trek and game of thrones and any other show. The fact that it was originally intended for kids is irrelevant, and just an fyi the creator made it without an intended age in order to appeal to all members of the family, that's why it got so popular.
And awful? Not an awful show by any means.
And apparently a show can have a decisive vibe on biological levels. Neat
It's not a great show either - it's plots are about as 'deep' as a Super Mario Bros. video game. The people who keep acting like it's some Emmy worthy show are just shitting themselves. The reason people call themselves 'bronies' is because they thrive on negative attention, and thinking it gives them "haters", and stuff like that
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And going outside? Ha. For six months I worked 40 hour workweeks in a warehouse at an outdoor shop, I go outside plenty.
I wasn't' the one who said that
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And Nope, my dating options contain many more adult pegasisters than underage ones,
I wouldn't want to be limited to dating women who are in some "Pegasister" cult, that's the point - it's unnecessary limitation.
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the fact that you compare me to a pedo is downright insulting and if it could I would pull you across your little Internet anonymity safe desk and knock your teeth in
Never said you were a pedo - just said I can see pedos enjoying a show like this a lot more than normal people.
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Finally, I'm surprised you decided to make a rant about this on an athesit forum, you probabkg found some MLP rule 34 and it but your delicate little feelings.
The fact that you know that perverted artwork of characters from a show intended for 7 year olds exists proves my point about pedos
Have you ever watched any of them? There's a lot of gags in things like Finding Nemo, Spongebob Squarepants, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Pinky and the Brain, and Animaniacs (to name a few) that are ostensibly kids shows but are absolutely loaded with material that adults can relate to. Some of the jokes are even aimed to go directly over kids heads because they know that parents will watch those cartoons with their kids.
How do you know this show is any different?
Quote from: Ace101 on March 31, 2015, 02:04:38 PMThe fact that you know that perverted artwork of characters from a show intended for 7 year olds exists proves my point about pedos
I've seen rule 34 of USB cables and portable devices. Hell, I've seen rule 34 of the titular 3 and 4. It means little and less than you think it does.
Quote from: Jason78 on March 31, 2015, 02:30:34 PMHave you ever watched any of them? There's a lot of gags in things like Finding Nemo, Spongebob Squarepants, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Pinky and the Brain, and Animaniacs (to name a few) that are ostensibly kids shows but are absolutely loaded with material that adults can relate to. Some of the jokes are even aimed to go directly over kids heads because they know that parents will watch those cartoons with their kids.
How do you know this show is any different?
Lots of adult references in MLP. Plus, the central themes of finding your purpose in life and creating/maintaining friendships appear particularly relevant for teens and college kids.
Ace101, your applying association fallacy. You think because clowns are creepy and aimed at children that if can be applied to anything you dislike for that same reason, even when it has no association.
People create interest groups from almost anything, trekkies, star wars fandom, comic book fandom, horror fandom, sports, games, movies, anything. And in any fandom, there will be countless interpretations of that fandom. You make the excuse about pony porn, you do know what rule34 applies to right?
Your in no position to call out anyone on their interests, as long as a person's interests doesn't lead to harm being brought to others then there is nothing that can be said against it, and doing so is just ad hominem.
Now if bronies turned into a cult where it sacrificed people of the fictionalized characters associated with it, as every religion has done or still does, then you might have an argument. But honestly, you don't.
Leave well enough alone.
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Even the ponies are getting horny now its close to ishtar
Hasboro just announced that season 5 is going to be the last season of FiM, citing creative differences between staff members. Fortunately, Equestria Girls will still stay on the air.
Also, there will be two new spinoffs: Applebloomers (a hand-drawn show focused on the cutie mark crusaders slated to premier April 2016)
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and Fallout Equestria
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(details are sparse, but rumor has it that Joss Whedon is taking over as executive producer and Ashleigh Ball will voice at least one character)
You nearly gave me a heart attack hydra XP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYJo6AySiM0
2 more days till season 5!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvaoeqNLNtM
Today's the day!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGYjr5cBhp8
IT HAS COME!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF2gTqNlFsc
Review time!
[spoiler]Yay, off on an adventure at last! Spike sure seems to be strangely apathetic to this huge change in venue.
And they're up against the borg. Stepford smiliers, the whole lot of them. They take natural talents and individuality and destroy it utterly. And those propaganda broadcasts... *shudders* Most terrifying villains yet, imho.
I'm loving Rarity's reactions to the rustic decor/clothes. Also, pinkie Pie is watching you...forever! And for a non-judgmental pony, Flutters is awfully judgmental, especially disapproving of RD ><
Pinkie pie gluttony ftw!
...and they're led to the cellar from Sweeney Todd. Oh my goddesses! The muffins are made out of ponies!!
Discorded Flutters makes a return! "What's soaking wet and clueless? YOUR FACE!"
Starlight has the craziest breakdown that I've seen since Lesson Zero.
*Apple 1984 commercial*
Damn, Starlight is packing some serious heat.
And all's well that ends well!
Headcanon: the reason the village is so messed up is that Trixie made a visit and started boasting, sparking an anti-elitist backlash.
It's interesting how cutie marks bestow special talents rather than simply reflecting them.
Lots of males in this one. And some even have speaking roles! Go equality! (well, not that kind of equality...)[/spoiler]
Truth told I haven't watched the new season yet
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IMHO, it's actually really good start to the season.
I need to watch it, just been feeling like shit recently :P
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Finally caught up, wasn't the most exciting three episodes but they were good. the third was nice and all, no spoilers but I liked it.
Not the my little ponies I remember. I do like the new art work much better though.
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Yup.
7 pages since I last checked in.....see ya round 30....ponies...oy
Ponies are love ponies are life
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They told me to let daring doo go
BUT I DIDNF LISTEN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ9RPTEkQW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQcjMDl8GWg
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Third episode review:
[spoiler]Pretty much just a redecorating episode with a fairly predictable plot. It had a touching conclusion, but it was weak overall. Such a missed opportunity. We could've at least seen Twilight (and to a lesser extent, Spike) ill at ease in their new place and really missing their old place. Instead it's just inferred by Pinkie (show don't tell!) and neither one of them actually seemed all that broken up about it. I mean, they could've had Twilight wake up and forget for a second that she wasn't at the library and been down in the dumps that morning. Something along those lines would've worked wonders for the episode. Really pour on the pathos. Even the guy from Fight Club was more upset about his home getting blown up and he hated that place! :P [/spoiler]
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 18, 2015, 01:59:55 AM
Third episode review:
[spoiler]Pretty much just a redecorating episode with a fairly predictable plot. It had a touching conclusion, but it was weak overall. Such a missed opportunity. We could've at least seen Twilight (and to a lesser extent, Spike) ill at ease in their new place and really missing their old place. Instead it's just inferred by Pinkie (show don't tell!) and neither one of them actually seemed all that broken up about it. I mean, they could've had Twilight wake up and forget for a second that she wasn't at the library and been down in the dumps that morning. Something along those lines would've worked wonders for the episode. Really pour on the pathos. Even the guy from Fight Club was more upset about his home getting blown up and he hated that place! :P [/spoiler]
I can agree with that, a lot of potential that they didn't use. Real shame to be honest with you
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I forced myself for 5 seconds, the nuisance got worse. I wanted to slap it. :snooty:
Those are not ponies. They are some sort of body snatchers. That's the only explanation of you people watching it. Invasion of the pony snatchers!
the show is awesome shoezie! and adorable
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I see this. May be I'll get snatched and get used to it.
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Quote from: Penny Dreadful on April 21, 2015, 04:12:17 PM
I forced myself for 5 seconds, the nuisance got worse. I wanted to slap it. :snooty:
Those are not ponies. They are some sort of body snatchers. That's the only explanation of you people watching it. Invasion of the pony snatchers!
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Just saw the latest episode, Bloom and Gloom. For a cmc episode, it was surprisingly good.
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Gas mask pony. Fallout Equestria confirmed!
Plus, I really like those twittermites. They really pack a punch at just a few dozen feet from each other. Imagine what they'd do to Equestria if they scattered for miles and miles. Alas, they may or may not actually be real, considering that their only canon appearance is in a dream.
Shadowbloom is awfully creepy.
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Geez, that smile is unsettling.
And finally...LUNA!
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I about fell out of my seat when she showed up. Not only can she dreamwalk, but she can also escort ponies into each other's dreams, allowing for dream-bound teleconferencing. That's an incredibly useful ability. And she states that she has had a busy night. I wonder what she's up to while almost everypony is asleep and dreaming...
I loved Scootaloo's lucid dreaming. Come to think of it, Star Trek Voyager had an episode with lucid dreaming, and Chakotay would know for certain that he was dreaming if he saw the moon...[/spoiler]
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 21, 2015, 05:53:57 PM
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I'm very close to the herd.
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Today, I read that bronies are making adult men confront their emotions. And also cause some positive effects on their lives.
They do, the show is very therapeutic to be honest.
Even the drunken peasants had a bronie on their show explaining what its all about and breaking some assumptions.
Of course TJ couldn't help but call the guy a horse fucker, but he was just making fun at the guys expense, he didn't seem to mind.
Quote from: Munch on April 24, 2015, 05:37:22 PMEven the drunken peasants had a bronie on their show explaining what its all about and breaking some assumptions. Of course TJ couldn't help but call the guy a horse fucker, but he was just making fun at the guys expense, he didn't seem to mind.
I saw that one. IIRC, the furries got the worst of it. Even though it was in jest, it seems odd that TJ of all people would be judgmental when it comes to sex.
It really wears on me that talking about the fandom/show to non-fans always revolves around the same handful of dumb accusations. "It's for girls!" "Bestiality!" "Lyra plushie!" It's like talking about atheism and getting the no purpose, no morality, communism arguments thrown at you over and over again. It's either not correct (no morality) or not the whole picture (i.e. the atheism=communism argument is undermined by the existence of non-communist atheists). I'm sure these sound like killer arguments to the person making them, but they're not. And we've been over this stuff a million times before, can't we move on already? Besides, there are more interesting things to talk about than somebody's bizarre fetish.
Fortunately, the other guys seemed more curious about the Star Trek - My Little Pony connection through John de Lancie and his very Q-like mlp character. Ben seemed way more receptive to what the brony guest was saying. Not necessarily interested in the show, maybe just a more charitable host. Ben's cool in my book.
Quote from: Penny Dreadful on April 24, 2015, 04:40:25 PMToday, I read that bronies are making adult men confront their emotions. And also cause some positive effects on their lives.
I'd like to see that article, if possible. The claim seems plausible. It certainly takes us on feels trips. Watching the show generally puts me in this happy, carefree frame of mind. Like petting a bunch of puppies. Sure, I'm an adult and all, but who's too old for puppies?
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Nothing serious. But it makes a lot of sense. Men are under constant attack from their childhood about how they should not show emotions, because that is something low and what women do; abused by social norms, other women and men; probably by themselves 'to man up', 'never to cry', 'never to reveal any weakness' ... many other bullshit you know better than me. So I am guessing this is speaking to some of them. Making them relax and calm about all this. Opening up. Putting down the defences.
It could be related to how cross dressing males -as you know have nothing to do with gender or sexaual preferences- but in a different way. To feel free from the pressures of a fucking norm that is violently imposed.
There are some others too. They are just simple little essays.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/little-pony-friendship-magic-cartoon-4261072
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/01/inside-the-bizarre-world-of-bronies-adult-male-fans-of-my-little-pony.html
I also just saw this. As a comic book fan, I use to love batman the animated series and the JLU series. And I use to love shows like dexters lab and powerpuff girls.
But I've never been a fan of teen titans, never really appealed to me, yet seeing teen titans Go and the weird approach they went with that series, making comic book characters into straight up cartoon characters, it just came off as more weird to me then something I'd get into.
Anyway, even in this show, they made fun of the whole Bronie concept, which to me seems really ironic given how much teen titan go plays down the actual characters of teen titans as bumbling morons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS-jasCKLVU
Quote from: Penny Dreadful on April 25, 2015, 04:56:34 AMNothing serious. But it makes a lot of sense. Men are under constant attack from their childhood about how they should not show emotions, because that is something low and what women do; abused by social norms, other women and men; probably by themselves 'to man up', 'never to cry', 'never to reveal any weakness' ... many other bullshit you know better than me. So I am guessing this is speaking to some of them. Making them relax and calm about all this. Opening up. Putting down the defences.
Sounds plausible. Never really thought about it from a men's lib angle. Men are hurt by traditional gender roles (stuffing down emotions isn't healthy) and mlp does run against that.
Personally, my interest is from another angle. My love of mlp isn't some aberrant thing, it's pretty much the same as other people's love of Disney movies or pokemon or toonami. I like cartoons and I like high fantasy. The only real barrier was the bad rap mlp had as an overly saccharine and poor-quality show consisting of nonstop girly tea parties devoid of conflict or characterization. When I figured out they brought in new talent to reboot it, I decided to give it a shot. Hooked in the first three episodes. I didn't think I would, but I actually really enjoy the virtual utopia of the setting. I'm into a lot of fairly grimdark stuff, and watching something unabashedly idealistic and heroic is actually pretty uplifting for me.
But one early criticism really stung me, that it's "for girls" because the main protagonists are female. Apparently, as a guy, I can't like media featuring female protagonists. So, male protagonist --> male or female audience. Female protagonist --> only female audience. This mentality effectively marginalizes female characters to secondary roles or halves their audience. Total bullshit. And sexist to boot. Buck those people. If believing that crap is "normal", then I don't want to be normal.
Sorry I haven't been as active on this thread as I should have bee, the past few days have been shite, awesome, and stress all combined into one 0.o
I need some good mlp anti-depressants XP
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 25, 2015, 11:55:42 AM
Sounds plausible. Never really thought about it from a men's lib angle. Men are hurt by traditional gender roles (stuffing down emotions isn't healthy) and mlp does run against that.
Personally, my interest is from another angle. My love of mlp isn't some aberrant thing, it's pretty much the same as other people's love of Disney movies or pokemon or toonami. I like cartoons and I like high fantasy. The only real barrier was the bad rap mlp had as an overly saccharine and poor-quality show consisting of nonstop girly tea parties devoid of conflict or characterization. When I figured out they brought in new talent to reboot it, I decided to give it a shot. Hooked in the first three episodes. I didn't think I would, but I actually really enjoy the virtual utopia of the setting. I'm into a lot of fairly grimdark stuff, and watching something unabashedly idealistic and heroic is actually pretty uplifting for me.
But one early criticism really stung me, that it's "for girls" because the main protagonists are female. Apparently, as a guy, I can't like media featuring female protagonists. So, male protagonist --> male or female audience. Female protagonist --> only female audience. This mentality effectively marginalizes female characters to secondary roles or halves their audience. Total bullshit. And sexist to boot. Buck those people. If believing that crap is "normal", then I don't want to be normal.
Male suicide rates are much higher than female suicide rates. What I described also triggers male violence against female. Men's or women's liberation from social norms prison relies on the same set of bullshit. But one is already a second class citizen.
However, there is something else important here related to what stung you that comes with 'its for girls'.
See, when girls raised to act like boys; participate in sports, martial arts, play computer games made for boys, drinking like boys, watch boy movies, learn to fix a car, do anything you can thing that is thought predominantly masculine, they are praised. A female with 'male characteristics' is always rewarded in some way socially. But at the same time bashed down and mocked. What they are going to do? Either be a girly selfie girl fit all the 'annoying' female characteristics, choose 'female jobs', fit in 'female positions', embraced the role and norm of 'being a woman is a virtue in itself', 'I am something to be deserved, looked after, care for, protected, I am a fucking prize' -beautiful ones are easily shaped as toddlers for that road- or be the girl who gives the finger to the world and do what they like. This could look like I am simplifiying it and divide it into black and white teams, no I am not. There is no such thing as the ones in the former group is stupid or the latter is ugly. there are women who manages to do it all of them at the same time all their life. And the bullshit they take from the world would kill a man easily.
No, I don't think men don't take bullshit or don't get oppressed, I am just talking about women right now.
But when it comes to a boy or a man who happens to like to do what is thought predominantly feminine (we can't even say act like a girl or raised like a girl here) they are punished severely by men and women. Humiliated. And it is a very easy mechanism, because all the humiliating expressions, phrases and forms of behaviour is 'female'. A man could be abused for not liking sports or not wanting to be a driver, choosing an automatic. Being a stay at home dad and looking after kids, quiting his job to move for his wive's promotion, or if his wige is earning more than him.
I know you won't like the term I use, but patriarchal human culture dictates we should raise our girls more like boys, but not our boys more like girls. Because that's the 'proper' person to be. The abuse on men and women is patriarchal. Because both of male and female culture is patriarchal.
It's exactly like the same thing with bronies, fuzzy stuffed animals, some certain sort of fantasy, cartoons, movies, books. This is fed by a so powerful category in culture, most males cannot even be aware that they would actually like something 'female' of the sort. We are all raised to be selective that way.
About people -men or women- watching, supporting strong female protagonists or side characters is still a no-no for an overwhelming majority. Conscious or unconscious. Almost all strong female characters are hated. Skip cartoons, think about famous successful tv series. Remember 'Bones'? May be the best of them ever created. It is the story of an atheist, genius scientist who eventually gets tamed, forced into traditional roles because that is what audience wants to see. Because that is proper. While another fantasy male character, Gregory House, a constantly praised asshole who gives more damage than he serves, a misogynistic, racist piece of shit who gets away everything he does and ends up with the most realistic scenario because he is entitled to it. He is so beloved people use this character's lines as if he was real and said them instead of an actor repeating a bunch of writer's repliques. What is worse he is defined as 'honest', 'straighforward' not taking bullshit telling the truth messiah. House is a derivative of Sherlock Holmes. Like almost all the solid, intelligent male characters available to/and created by Anglo-Saxon American show business which dominated the main stream in the world. The entitled white male. A high fucntioning sociopath which comes either with strong libido for women or an asexual alienating them, creating a privately defined sphere between special male characters where women are humuliated, presented as maids. Yeah, we may have one strong female to challenge him, but she is put in her place by his unrequited love for the asexual male head. Either way it is the king of a private world where women are denied. Now, yes it's OK for a story to have a plot of the sort, but what I am describing here is far more than the story Doyle wrote. It's a hand book and the blueprint of mainstream narrative. Do you know the True Blood character Tara? (A strong, intelligent black woman in the story and in the most of it the only sane character in it with the Irak veteran) There is a few articles on why she is one of the most hated character of his time. Doesn't matter what they made her do, everyone hated her. Let's turn it upside down. Why is Daenerys Targaryen is loved so much? What are the qualities of the character? She is a fragile, vulnerable, beautiful, sexy victim who took what was forced on her by men solemnly, embraced it and came over it just to deliver justice, goes on untouched and out clean. Ever so elegant, an ultimately good goddess. She is a more of a fantasy than her dragons and the giants in the story.
OK, forget about fantasy characters and let's look how some real characters are fantasized. I usually have great prejudice against how historical characters and their stories are presented, I am rarely wrong because I have an academic idea of some sort good or bad. The most famous historical female figure in the Anglo Saxon-American world is probbaly Elizabeth Tudor. That woman annoyed me to death at most of my younger days, being under bombardment of British assimilation and things always didn't add up about how her story was portrayed and what she created. Do you know the movies or the series made on her? 'A poor, unlucky woman of an executed mother who had to be raised to the British throne who apparently did nothing but crying, mourning that she couldn't get married and have children.' AW. How sad. What fucking bullshit. That woman is one of the most powerful soverigns, one fucking genius of a stateman and a creator of a culture what later layed stones that became British Empire and most of the English culture, highly likely never thought of marrying once let alone having children, probably had many lovers. Oh wait, that's a description of a man. I'm not even getting in to how her mother Ann Boleyn is portrayed. 'She was sooo beautfiul and love in with Henry the VIII, poor woman!' Yeah right. *Rolls eyes.
Anyway, I got carried away again. You got me. I need to work and I am trying to avoid it by inventing things to do. Nobody likes to watch real strong female protagonists, even if they are real. If one day they would decide to make a biographical flick for Henrietta Leawitt, they will have to cast a beautiful woman and add a lot to story to make people watch it. Because she is an 'ugly', deaf, recluse who worked without being paid -like Noether- who, people had no idea that she was dead until they decided to give her the Nobel Prize after being scolded by Stockholm, she deserved when she is alive years ago.
We have a looong way to go for a world -starting civilised countries- that men and women would watch/enjoy something they really themselves chose because they liked it under minimum bullshit possible.
The funny thing is that the public really is warming up to female protagonists. Movies/shows/video games like Frozen, Brave, Avatar: the legend of Korra, the Portal series, Tomb Raider, etc. Hell, I hear they're even doing a female Assassin's Creed, despite not being able to animate women. [/snark] A lot of really big hits feature women, apparently without garnering half as much snears as mlp got. So the "girly" accusation is simultaneously aggravating and baffling.
Yeah, I think the main issue is men behaving in stereotypical girly ways. But the weird part is they're not, at least I'm not. I mean, it's not like I watch the show and then I'm suddenly into fashion and tea parties. My other interests are still very masculine. Stuff like Walking Dead and Game of Thrones.
Even if I were a fan of only mlp, out of the 6 main characters, only two are actually stereotypically girly (Rarity and Fluttershy). Two are very tomboyish (Rainbow Dash and Applejack), and the last two are somewhere in between (Twilight and Pinkie). Maybe it's the idyllic setting or the moral lessons (don't be a dick, try to resolve conflicts peacefully, take other people's feelings into account, etc) but I really, really hope that stuff is universal. All in all, I'd argue that the tv show isn't particularly girly, let alone the fandom. Hell, an extremely popular part about the fandom (and my personal favorite mlp thing ever) is this fan story about a small but ferocious little unicorn who's basically an action hero in a post-apocalyptic wasteland. Definitely not girly.
So yeah, it's hard for me to place where this girly accusation is coming from. Seems more like a knee-jerk reaction than anything else.
Quote from: Hydra009 on April 26, 2015, 01:54:50 PM
The funny thing is that the public really is warming up to female protagonists. Movies/shows/video games like Frozen, Brave, Avatar: the legend of Korra, the Portal series, Tomb Raider, etc. Hell, I hear they're even doing a female Assassin's Creed, despite not being able to animate women. [/snark] A lot of really big hits feature women, apparently without garnering half as much snears as mlp got. So the "girly" accusation is simultaneously aggravating and baffling.
Yeah, I think the main issue is men behaving in stereotypical girly ways. But the weird part is they're not, at least I'm not. I mean, it's not like I watch the show and then I'm suddenly into fashion and tea parties. My other interests are still very masculine. Stuff like Walking Dead and Game of Thrones.
Even if I were a fan of only mlp, out of the 6 main characters, only two are actually stereotypically girly (Rarity and Fluttershy). Two are very tomboyish (Rainbow Dash and Applejack), and the last two are somewhere in between (Twilight and Pinkie). Maybe it's the idyllic setting or the moral lessons (don't be a dick, try to resolve conflicts peacefully, take other people's feelings into account, etc) but I really, really hope that stuff is universal. All in all, I'd argue that the tv show isn't particularly girly, let alone the fandom. Hell, an extremely popular part about the fandom (and my personal favorite mlp thing ever) is this fan story about a small but ferocious little unicorn who's basically an action hero in a post-apocalyptic wasteland. Definitely not girly.
So yeah, it's hard for me to place where this girly accusation is coming from. Seems more like a knee-jerk reaction than anything else.
Of course it is. You are right at everyting you said. And of course you are what you are and watching a cartoon is well, watching a cartoon you like. However, I don't think people even think about these things. They just you know, don't see it. Blindness.
Its true...people will see what they want to see..not the intrinsic values that it has to offer..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW5n3k2VgZE
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on February 11, 2015, 09:29:34 PM
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Bowser Road.
Just saw Tanks For The Memories.
[spoiler]We get to see more of Cloudsdale. Apparently, it's a mobile city, which is weird considering it has always been depicted as just a few err...miles...kilometers...ummm...whatever pony unit of distance NW of Ponyville. Also, weather control requires serious industry! And it would definitely fail OSHA inspection.
Rainbow Dash: "DO I LOOK ANGRY?!" *super mad face* She makes the funniest faces! :D
Man, Dash was heartbroken about her pet! I loved Applejack's stoicism in the face of the chain-reaction cryfest. "Nope, I'm good." :D
Am I the only one who still thinks that Dash made a bad pick in the pet department? I know it rescued her and all that jazz, but she seems to require an extremely energetic flyer. To the point that she'll drag it around if it's sleepy. Seriously, some Weekend at Bernie's stuff is going on in this episode that would give Fluttershy conniptions if she saw it. Makes me feel bad for the turtle. Or tortoise. Or whatever.
Also, WINTER IS COMING!!!! :lol: And they say this show is for little girls![/spoiler]
Okay..well. One of my friends is a German brony, good guy..had a friend who was a pegasister and a dj, quite popular. I say had because about two months ago she was was raped and beaten to pieces and left to die. She died in hospital. It just came from the woman's former fiancé, the guy who had to come home from work and hear that his future wife was going to die, that she was targeted because she was a pegasister, a very vocal one.
That hit me really hard...no faith left in mankind after that. That's just monstrous
I really have no idea how one can be very vocal about a…cartoon. What was she vocal about? Did she stand on the corner and yell at people to watch the show? Seriously, i am not trying to make fun of the tragedy but what the hell does one do to be a pegasister that would piss someone off enough to harm her or anyone?
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on May 02, 2015, 01:27:28 PM
Okay..well. One of my friends is a German brony, good guy..had a friend who was a pegasister and a dj, quite popular. I say had because about two months ago she was was raped and beaten to pieces and left to die. She died in hospital. It just came from the woman's former fiancé, the guy who had to come home from work and hear that his future wife was going to die, that she was targeted because she was a pegasister, a very vocal one.
That hit me really hard...no faith left in mankind after that. That's just monstrous
Unbelievable. how screwed up is our world that someone would be attacked for something so innocuous?
Quote from: aitm on May 02, 2015, 10:47:40 PM
I really have no idea how one can be very vocal about a…cartoon. What was she vocal about? Did she stand on the corner and yell at people to watch the show? Seriously, i am not trying to make fun of the tragedy but what the hell does one do to be a pegasister that would piss someone off enough to harm her or anyone?
She just wore the clothing a lot and participated in the fandom, the dude was a supremacist who saw her as inferior
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Scoots is best CMC
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So….the 3yr old grandkid watches episodes of the ponies on several locations of netflix et al, and somehow stumbled into a whole new world where people create their own episodes simply by moving toy ponies with the hands and speaking a narrative. Very, rather silly but whatever. Anyway, yesterday, she is watching and the wife and I are doing our thing and I here her say, "oh no, that was mean to stab her with scissors"…..I caught that and got up and looked at her video and its shows one of the little ponies being stabbed and then laying down and catchup all over and the voice is laughing…wtf?
So now we have to screen her pony vids….I blame this on the evil atheists…..
Poor ponies
How do you know, may be they taste good with ketchup?
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How do you know, may be they taste good with ketchup?
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Episode reviews:
[spoiler]Appaloosa's Most Wanted: We see more Braeburn, which is nice. But Troubleshoes and his whole arc was just predictable and bad. We know he's not really a villain, just misunderstood. And the town basically did a witch hunt purely on circumstantial evidence. Yikes. Plus, I'm not the biggest fan of cmc episodes and those three have probably had more screen time than the mane six this season.
Make New Friends but Keep Discord: The plotline is pretty thin, it's pretty much the same jealous friend plotline we had with Gilda, except this time it has Discord and the Gala. But this one had enough hijinks to be somewhat entertaining. Tree Hunger was annoying but fun to hate. Maud had a pretty good zinger. Rarity getting embarrassed in public was priceless. And Discord...
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Discord is now officially sporting the symbol of chaos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbol_of_Chaos). MLP/Warhammer 40k crossovers, commence!
Also, Celestia gets covered in slime and can't use her powers. Celestia gets depowered so Twilight has to save the day, surprise surprise. The gala is a lot smaller this year, more like a personal party of the mane six and their friends than an event that the whole city participates in. And Celestia's love of Gala mayhem is now officially creepy, considering that this time, ponies were drowning in ooze while another pony was about to be banished to another dimension.
The Lost Treasure of Griffonstone. I LOVED this episode! Gilda is back! And Rainbow (and pinkie) is off on an adventure! And we finally get to see part of the Griffon Empire! Be still, my heart!!
I loved RD's impression of Twilight. I loved the Indiana Jones reference (http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/loveinterest/images/d/d5/ElsaReach.png/revision/latest?cb=20150202212845). I liked how Gilda is grumpy but not necessarily mean.
I'm sort of disappointed by the state of the griffon "kingdom", which seemed more like a small village than an actual kingdom, and a run-down one at that. And the griffins have little personality except as gruff scavengers or shopkeepers with an affinity for bits. (The bits thing is actually makes some sense. In Fallout Equestria, they're excellent mercenaries.)
Pinkie befriends Gilda, who in turn befriends other griffons. Friendship is magic. Cue pat ending.
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But as much as I liked the episode, I think the Griffons got shafted on this one. They really could've been fleshed out more. We still don't know much of anything about them (what do they excel at? What do they do for fun? Are there any cultural differences between them and ponies? How do they feel about Equestria and ponies?
I'm halfway tempted to write a story of my own about them. A fierce and proud race that once had a mighty empire, but is on the wane. A populace that values bravery, strength, and honor and shuns qualities of timidness, weakness, and deception. They're omnivores who eat meat (mostly rodents or fish) on occasion, much to the disapproval of the strictly vegetarian ponies, disapproval that they return given the growing influence of ponies and their extensive use of magic, even dark magic on occasion. The griffons could vary from royalty and nobility to tradesman, artisans, farmers, and hunters. They could have a majestic, well-fortified capital, several major cities, dozens of villages, a half-dozen trading hubs, and a dozen colonies (some practically but not officially independent). Oh man, I could do so much with the griffons![/spoiler]
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Just a micro debate I felt like bringing up, but its pause for thought.
After listening to one of silver quills reviews of some more recent episodes, he brought up an interesting thought (I think of was the episode to do with that fashion designer for canterlot that rarity loves but who falls for applejack). In it, Quill brought up something about the show that when you think about it, its hard to look past, and while it doesn't ruin the show, it does create an expectation I'd more hope to see.
MLP-FIS is a show with an all female cast, and thats fine, given how there has been shows in the past which has been all male cast and female side characters, Plus in this show the female characters all have great personalities, identifiable, and they work of one another. They are all strong in their own sense, and given what they did with this show in contrast to all MLP shows that came before it, its something that I enjoy sometimes watching for that reason, that its a show as good as power puff girls or dexter lab or the like.
But heres the problem I have with the show, and at five seasons it, it kind of becomes an ongoing problem more then one that gets resolved. While the premise of the show is one aimed at a more female demographic, that hasn't stopped any people of any age or gender liking it, as I said before, men and women, boys and girls, they all like the show.
But why is it then, with such strong female characters in the show, the whole main cast being strong female characters.. why are all the men in MLP just.. nothing?
The male characters in MLP, seem to all fall into just a few categories. You have the evil one shot forces of chaos, that being Sombra, Tirek and Diamond Dogs, the blander then white bread characters, like Shining Knight, Flash Sentry or Big Mac, or the comic relief foils, like Snips and Snails, Bulk Biceps or Flim and Flam. The only other males are of ambiguous sexuality like Discord or Spike.
The males in MLP just seems like such token or underdeveloped foils for most of the show, with a few exceptions here and there. I know it is a show designed and aimed as a young female demographic despite it having a strong mixed fanbase, but I often feel like the writers are taking liberties in only having male characters in for the sake of it, but not to have them do anything important unless its either pure evil, or comedy.
I'm speaking as someone who grew up on comic books, where strong female role models were often part of groups like justice league or x-men, and while those groups could be complete sausage fests, it really came down to the time and the writer who could write in female characters as strong as the males, one of my most fav female characters in comics being Storm.
I guess I just wish this show, which is still good, had a little more solid male roles in it to balance things a little, not to take it from the strong female characters, but.. its just that the only male character in this show with any reoccurring personality is discord, which speaks for itself.
...
That said, maybe I just want to see more iron will.
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Oh boy, bronies. This is a very delicate thing to touch upon but I'll voice my opinion about them.
The reason why haters like to attack bronies is the simple fact that they are grown men watching a show about friendship and colorful ponies, it is pretty embarrassing and the Internet is a ruthless place with no mercy sometimes but who can forget those brony r34 artists? They give everyone else a bad name as well as those who announce that they "clop" to Fluttershy/Applejack/etc... This gives haters a stereotype to work with and exploit them.
And c'mon, who can forget those 4chan threads about f.cking horses?
I'll admit to something, as a.. dunno how to say it.. diet furry? part time furry? Well as someone who has mildly roleplayed furry characters, that being anthromorphic characters like ones found in world of warcraft or in other games, given that and my penchant for buggery, I have downloaded some buff masculine furry porn, nothing more assuming then big guys, who happen to be anthropomorphic characters.
That said, when I log on a website that is more catered to that interest, sites like Furaffinity, which does both hardcore and non-sex related art and stories, I have.. seen peoples inclusion of MLP characters, which just.. feels unsettling to me. Someone might accuse me of being hypocritical given my like for anthro characters, but... MLP characters just seem like young girls, ponies sure, but still it doesn't sit well with me.
Its pretty much the rule34 thing, anything can be sexualized. The unfortunate thing of looking sites with yaoi and furry buff characters, is you end up seeing everything else, and sometimes need a strong stomach to go past it.
And given I'm someone whos all for adult fun like that, but holding a very strong position on anything underage, yeah, maybe thats why the mlp stuff there just makes me cringe.
I like the show
I like the FF's
I like the official canon
I like a lot of ships, not the lesbian ones mainly, for odd reasons
and I like the rule 34
I'm a true fan, I just don't run around with rainbow dash tits on my shirt
Quote from: Munch on June 06, 2015, 08:45:20 PMThe males in MLP just seems like such token or underdeveloped foils for most of the show, with a few exceptions here and there. I know it is a show designed and aimed as a young female demographic despite it having a strong mixed fanbase, but I often feel like the writers are taking liberties in only having male characters in for the sake of it, but not to have them do anything important unless its either pure evil, or comedy.
That is true, and it's an ongoing problem. It's like the 80s cartoon sausage fests but in reverse.
Quote from: Hydra009 on June 29, 2015, 11:34:55 AM
That is true, and it's an ongoing problem. It's like the 80s cartoon sausage fests but in reverse.
Hey hydra, as a side note...
my dad rampaged about the evils of bronies and my mom found out I'm a brony ._.
Quote from: Hydra009 on June 29, 2015, 11:34:55 AM
That is true, and it's an ongoing problem. It's like the 80s cartoon sausage fests but in reverse.
yeah, ghostbusters had janine as the token female and secretary, TMNT had april, he-man had Tila, muppets has piggy, and so on, most of the females in those shows were just token. Though some shows did do a bit better, like thundercats Cheetara was pretty cool (I wanted to run like her). With MLP, it just feels like they could make a male character have some standing, instead of overshadowed or made into a villain. But maybe its just the demographic aspect they are going for here.
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on June 29, 2015, 11:37:54 AM
Hey hydra, as a side note...
my dad rampaged about the evils of bronies and my mom found out I'm a brony ._.
evils of bronies. Is this like the evils of trekkies? Dam those trekkies and their future 80s themed paraphernalia!
Quote from: Munch on June 29, 2015, 11:48:46 AM
evils of bronies. Is this like the evils of trekkies? Dam those trekkies and their future 80s themed paraphernalia!
Basically he called them "fags and child molesters"
...
oh joy..
Well I've seen the same thing said about furries, the same clever and witty banter.
Quote from: Munch on June 29, 2015, 11:54:48 AM
...
oh joy..
Well I've seen the same thing said about furries, the same clever and witty banter.
Yeah, fun fun :/
If it means anything, my dad was a lovely guy himself, how he sometimes shouted 'dirty fat queer' at me from another room when he'd had a skinful of his usual poison.
I just think about the fact that he's dead and forgotten by most, and I stand now as someone backing equal rights, so yeah, better to sweep the dust aside.
I look forward to not seeing them
Again
Quote from: Munch on June 29, 2015, 11:45:34 AM
yeah, ghostbusters had janine as the token female and secretary, TMNT had april, he-man had Tila, muppets has piggy, and so on, most of the females in those shows were just token. Though some shows did do a bit better, like thundercats Cheetara was pretty cool (I wanted to run like her). With MLP, it just feels like they could make a male character have some standing, instead of overshadowed or made into a villain. But maybe its just the demographic aspect they are going for here.
They sort of have that with Spike, but he's written wildly inconsistently. Sometimes, he's the most dependable and faithful friend ever (the new Rainbow Dash, lol) and actually helps out with trouble (The Crystal Empire, Equestria Games). In other depictions, he's a bumbling laughingstock or worse, a toady. (Spike at Your Service *cringe*)
I joke sometimes that Spike is like Theon from Game of Thrones without any of Theon's resentment towards his foster family.
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on June 29, 2015, 11:37:54 AMmy dad rampaged about the evils of bronies and my mom found out I'm a brony ._.
Yikes. That's bad. Sounds like they can't be reasoned with, either. Sorry, I dunno how to deal with something like that except hope they get over it in time.
I'm just never going to tell him
Quote from: Munch on June 28, 2015, 06:02:29 PMI'll admit to something, as a.. dunno how to say it.. diet furry? part time furry? Well as someone who has mildly roleplayed furry characters, that being anthromorphic characters like ones found in world of warcraft or in other games, given that and my penchant for buggery, I have downloaded some buff masculine furry porn, nothing more assuming then big guys, who happen to be anthropomorphic characters.
That said, when I log on a website that is more catered to that interest, sites like Furaffinity, which does both hardcore and non-sex related art and stories, I have.. seen peoples inclusion of MLP characters, which just.. feels unsettling to me.
There's a lot of bleedover between the furry and mlp fandoms, and for what it's worth, I'm not thrilled about furry OCs showing up in mlp artwork, either. I guess this is one of those things that both fandoms have to live with.
Quote from: Hydra009 on June 29, 2015, 02:22:55 PM
There's a lot of bleedover between the furry and mlp fandoms, and for what it's worth, I'm not thrilled about furry OCs showing up in mlp artwork, either. I guess this is one of those things that both fandoms have to live with.
I saw a video between Dr wolf and his brother about the whole thing between furries and bronies, was interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cqsBocZDug
though I have to agree with his brother, he's clearly a furry character masked by his bronie persona ^^
I just think if there is any kind of agression between furries and bronies, its just silly. Both are groups with similar interests, and even if its not shared always, its no reason for one side to hate on the other.
Quote from: Munch on June 29, 2015, 03:27:27 PMI just think if there is any kind of agression between furries and bronies, its just silly. Both are groups with similar interests, and even if its not shared always, its no reason for one side to hate on the other.
Yeah, you're right.
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P.S. - anyone see the 100th episode of mlp, Slice of Life?
Fanservice galore. I'm not even sure what's canon or fanon anymore!
Doctor Whooves is The Doctor and goes on adventures with Derpy. Check.
Derpy has a speaking role. Omgigoshomigosh!
Octavia and Vinyl are roommates. Check.
Lyra and Bonbon are BFFs. Check.
Non-evil changeling(s). Check.
Also, there was Princess Spike and Party Pooped.
I didn't much care for Princess Spike. It seemed strange that ponies revere princesses so much that their word is law and bug them about really trivial things. It's good to see Spike stepping up and taking a role of authority, but damn, it really went to his head fast. There was some minor worldbuilding, though.
As for Party Pooped, I loved it. Nervous Pinkie and stressed Twilight made the best faces! (Twilight isn't going to get that security deposit back) And there was some great jokes and we get to learn more about Pinkie. She's actually very hardworking and methodical about things, though she makes it look like the opposite.
There was a ton of worldbuilding in this one. Yakistan, just north of the Crystal Empire, which apparently puts it somewhere in the Frozen North. And the Yaks say the W-word. War. If I recall correctly, this is the very first time any character in the show has ever actually said that word. Apparently, Equestria has known enough interstate armed conflicts to have a word for it. And tanks. And bullets. And cannons. Perhaps Fallout Equestria isn't so outlandish after all...
Don't forget when twilight says epic pony war in that episode about huge stressing over nothing all week
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on June 30, 2015, 10:14:56 AM
Don't forget when twilight says epic pony war in that episode about huge stressing over nothing all week
You're absolutely right. D'oh!
Fine, second time that war is mentioned and first time it is raised as an actual possibility.
Latest FiM episode: Luna sleeps with the mane six while Spike watches. Then they sleep with the whole town. I'm not making this up. That's literally what happens.
Also, Princess Mac. And Rainbow's dreams are 20% cooler than everypony else's:
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She chews bubblegum and kicks changeling flank. And she's all out of bubblegum.[/spoiler]
My only gripes are that Celestia was essentially written out of the story. Total BS. That and the resolution was just a tad too easy. That's not the sort of problem that's solved overnight. Heh. See what I did there? :P
All in all, it was another great one. The writers are on a roll this season. This season had a pretty rocky start (the initial 2-parter was great, but the badness of Castle Sweet Castle really took the wind out of those sails), but they've really been doing a superb job lately. Only 2 bad ones out of 13 so far, and several episodes that are just phenomenal. If they keep this up, it'll be the best season yet. Not many TV shows keep their steam by season 5, let alone build on it.
It was more a sleep over then anything ^^
Good episode though, princess big Mac had such a sailor moon moment I just burst out laughing.
Good to see a Luna focused episode, but I'm certain their be critics about how she kept this to herself for 5 seasons and the whole self punishment thing. Just be thankful she had a whole episode about her.
Dream derpy being gigantic running around, and used as a mount by princess big Mac.. I can hear the shipping bells already.
Quote from: Munch on July 16, 2015, 08:40:34 AMGood to see a Luna focused episode, but I'm certain their be critics about how she kept this to herself for 5 seasons and the whole self punishment thing. Just be thankful she had a whole episode about her.
It fits with what we know about her. She puts up a stiff upper lip, but it's clear that she's deeply scarred by the whole Nightmare Moon incident. She's protective of her subjects and extremely wrathful towards anything that threatens them. Her first appearance as a dream walker was to show up in Scootaloo's dream and disintegrate the Headless Horse. But unlike Celestia, she's often formal and emotionally cold, though she can warm up to ponies and start enjoying herself as the situation allows. It makes sense that she'd beat herself up over her dark past. And canonically, it's only been a year and some change since Nightmare Moon became Luna, practically nothing for the older-than-doctor-who alicorns.
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Okay...for the first time I am alarmed by someone in the brony community
https://plus.google.com/u/1/b/112635091793903265387/114127626747600304606/posts/NpZtw81eWgf
How does THIS equate to Brony ideals? An islamist with pics of burning US and UK flags side by side with Ponies and friendship
something here is fucked
Interrrrrrrrrrrrresting thoughts BY bronies.....
Gerard
Maybe its just me, but I'd sooner be in a room having a conversation with old J. Jonah Jameson, then i would with diamond bitch. At least JJ has some lovable moments.
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There is an Anti Brony Brotherhood......
Gerard
Quote from: Gerard on July 18, 2015, 08:46:12 PM
There is an Anti Brony Brotherhood......
I've heard of the Anti-Brony Coalition (ABC :eyes:)
They are like Christians, plenty to laugh about, until it's not funny...
ABC are like AF's (Anti Furries) Except AF's has done something, and not in a good way.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/07/furries-convention-chlorine-gas-sickens-19-people
Still keeps me up at night, and no one in real life knows that I'm a brony loving furry :sad:.
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on July 18, 2015, 06:23:04 PM
Okay...for the first time I am alarmed by someone in the brony community
https://plus.google.com/u/1/b/112635091793903265387/114127626747600304606/posts/NpZtw81eWgf
How does THIS equate to Brony ideals? An islamist with pics of burning US and UK flags side by side with Ponies and friendship
something here is fucked
I had to scroll down a long, long way down the posts to find anything pony related, and even then, it's EG stuff and some non-pony memes. Just sounds like some dumbass islamist kid first and foremost. Besides, this stuff has all kinds of fans all over the world. I'm not terribly surprised by the occassional nutjob.
I know I'm beating a dead unicorn here, but I finally found a video that perfectly addresses the whole "Ick, a brony!" reaction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rweyvTfS9zE
My thoughts on concern #3, "obsession": Yeah, I'm actually waaay more into sci-fi shows and gaming. MLP is like a tertiary interest for me. Basically, this is like accusing Keith Richards of being obsessed with weed.
If I had to rate the intensity of my feelings towards tv shows I've watched recently, mlp would probably be somewhere in the middle. I'm actually more of a fan of the fan-generated content than the official content, if that makes any sense.
That's the thing you can definitely say about this mlp generation, the intelligence of the writing is far and above light years from every other incarnation of it prior to now. Every other one only ever appealed to the little girl demographic and nothing else, much like toy adverts.
Though, who the fuck knows what they were trying to appeal to with this thing.
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Mlp fim might have a lot of jokes and reference in the show, like Dr who or the big lebowski, or innuendos kids won't get, but so did Aladdin with the genie. In fact you could compare discord on par with the genie in terms of comic timing.
Quote from: dtq123 on July 18, 2015, 11:32:45 PM
I've heard of the Anti-Brony Coalition (ABC :eyes:)
They are like Christians, plenty to laugh about, until it's not funny...
ABC are like AF's (Anti Furries) Except AF's has done something, and not in a good way.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/07/furries-convention-chlorine-gas-sickens-19-people
Still keeps me up at night, and no one in real life knows that I'm a brony loving furry :sad:.
Oh my. That's...I don't know what to say. Fucking insanity.
It is only through this forum that I am even aware of things called, "bronies" and I fully admit that if I met adults who told me they watch episodes of "My little Pony" religiously, I would seriously, seriously move to the next room. Sorry, but….well….yeah.
Quote from: aitm on July 19, 2015, 10:15:28 AM
It is only through this forum that I am even aware of things called, "bronies" and I fully admit that if I met adults who told me they watch episodes of "My little Pony" religiously, I would seriously, seriously move to the next room. Sorry, but….well….yeah.
Not all people are religiously into that stuff. Some are just common people with ponies as decor.
Quote from: aitm on July 19, 2015, 10:15:28 AM
It is only through this forum that I am even aware of things called, "bronies" and I fully admit that if I met adults who told me they watch episodes of "My little Pony" religiously, I would seriously, seriously move to the next room. Sorry, but….well….yeah.
*shrug* I watch it, this is from the same show makers as dexters lab, and I loved dexters lab.
Quote from: Munch on July 19, 2015, 04:47:59 AM
That's the thing you can definitely say about this mlp generation, the intelligence of the writing is far and above light years from every other incarnation of it prior to now. Every other one only ever appealed to the little girl demographic and nothing else, much like toy adverts.
Though, who the fuck knows what they were trying to appeal to with this thing.
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Girl-show ghetto (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GirlShowGhetto) (pink and cutesy, because that's all girls are into) + not giving a shit because "kids can't tell the difference".
Quote from: Hydra009 on July 19, 2015, 11:50:26 AM
Girl-show ghetto (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GirlShowGhetto) (pink and cutesy, because that's all girls are into) + not giving a shit because "kids can't tell the difference".
agreed. though I always did think the concepts of putting a label on the color system to be meaningless in the grand scheme of things, since when going back a little ways, pink use to be the color associated with boys and blue was the color associated with girls.
end of the day, colors don't matter old standards of boys only like rough stuff and thats how it should be, and girls only like cutey things and thats how it should be, it makes people miss out on interesting and creative things. Hell, I had rainbow bright and my little pony toys as a kid while my brother had he-man and thundercats, but I wanted to play with the he-man/thundercat stuff to, while he didn't want anything to do with my little pony or rainbow bright.
(then again both he-man and my little pony where campy as all hell in their own way)
The irony is, that well as a kid I played with mlp and rainbow bright, as well as he-man and thundercats toys (my brothers hand me downs), and watch both kinds of kids shows while my brother only watch the things 'the boys liked', as it stands today, when talking movies, I can discuss loads of different movies I like, from animation to horror, to chick flicks and romance movies to gay romance movies to action films, while my brother is very limited on his range of movies he likes, mostly ones in the same vane as tarantino and cop comedy films.
He even once said brokeback mountain was shit, when he hadn't even seen the film.
This is why I like Lauren Faust, she really seemed to understand you can find a balance between both sides without forcing one side to accept an aspect they might not like. Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, power puff girls, cats don't dance, I've liked all these series and movies.
btw, Darla Dimple, most under-appreciated bad guy in animation.
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Anyone here clop? I recently found out what it meant on the urban dictionary
Quote from: dtq123 on July 19, 2015, 10:00:39 PM
Anyone here clop? I recently found out what it meant on the urban dictionary
*coughs* tons *coughs*
Quote from: dtq123 on July 19, 2015, 10:00:39 PM
Anyone here clop? I recently found out what it meant on the urban dictionary
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Clop doe
I don't clop, but I like a nice Equine male over on FA.
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Just found this gem. I'm laughing my ass off over here!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAbvWYtSSh8
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oh no, she's at it again.
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Hope this time she doesn't blow up a power plant.
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Im not sure why I dont watch that show, the characters seem very cute and charming.
Quote from: Cocoa Beware on September 13, 2015, 02:40:31 AM
Im not sure why I dont watch that show, the characters seem very cute and charming.
For some strange reason, mlp characters - even the secondary characters - are
extremely memorable. I watch my other shows and I'm like "that's farmer guy, that's the daughter of farmer guy, and there's that junkie guy. He likes drugs, I think." and then MLP comes on and I'm like "OMG! Spitfire cameo! I instantly remember everything she's ever done or said. In fact, did you know she's voiced by a guy in the Hungarian and Polish dubs of this show!?" That's witchcraft right there.
Derpy is best
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on September 13, 2015, 10:27:26 PM
Derpy is best
CUPCAKES AREN'T FOR BREAKFAST!!!
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DERPY WANT MUFFIN
Did someone say cupcakes?
[spoiler=CUPCAKES!](http://pre03.deviantart.net/c0b0/th/pre/i/2012/233/d/b/cupcakes_by_djhyperponygbx5-d5byxhm.png)[/spoiler]
In the Rainbow Factory, where your fears and horrors come true
In the Rainbow Factory, where not a single soul gets through
This threads going in a darker direction then it should, need something to bring it back from the darkness..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z7UnO66q9w
This is one weird thread…..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn0oOlwjvBQ&list=PL2s6SXCIx41g86DVsY4ZGbI9YllTQiyc2&index=64
Can I just say, how fucking awesome a villain adagio is. She and her minions caused the seeds of chaos and discord (irony) to make so much shit happen, that even Star Swirl the Bearded had to banish her and keep her from returning to equestria.
Her minions suck, but she's a badass.
Quote from: Munch on November 09, 2015, 03:09:03 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn0oOlwjvBQ&list=PL2s6SXCIx41g86DVsY4ZGbI9YllTQiyc2&index=64
Can I just say, how fucking awesome a villain adagio is. She and her minions caused the seeds of chaos and discord (irony) to make so much shit happen, that even Star Swirl the Bearded had to banish her and keep her from returning to equestria.
Her minions suck, but she's a badass.
Sonata dusk is pretty cute though
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also this
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Quote from: aitm on September 14, 2015, 05:28:44 PM
This is one weird thread…..
Nowadays it's weird not to be into ponies. You are about the only person here who doesn't jerk off to ponies and unicorns, or people dressed up as ponies and unicorns, so who's really the weird one?
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Quote from: FaithIsFilth on November 10, 2015, 03:53:26 PMNowadays it's weird not to be into ponies. You are about the only person here who doesn't jerk off to ponies and unicorns, or people dressed up as ponies and unicorns, so who's really the weird one?
Well, as a little kid, I liked an italian plumber who transported through the sewer, ate mushrooms, dressed up like a raccoon, and stomped on turtles. As a teen, I liked 15-year-olds piloting giant robots that could level cities and radially-symmetrical starfish-like sentient beings from Earth's ancient past. As an adult, I like cuddly animals participating in a coup d'etat, dragons fighting ice zombies, and magical unicorns, pegasi, and earth ponies going on adventures and saving the world. If that makes me weird, then I proudly accept that term.
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If I ever stop liking weird things, please shoot me.
I'd sooner be thought of as weird by someone then be just another joe nobody who has no interests. I read canadian comics about naked gay superheroes saving the world with their dicks, games involving talking dragons, wizards, elves and orcs, or movies ranging from super heroes fighting against evil robot masterminds, horror stories such as a mother whos grief manifests a demonic entity that haunts her, or childlike wonder in japanese animation of walking castles or little witches trying to find her place in the world.
My interests vary in so much, from raunchy to scary to cute to action, magic, sci fi, so I gathered it that I can like whatever the fuck I want, and if I can appreciate a well written series about pastel colored talking ponies, that works to try and produce a cartoon series that can be funny, action packed and moralistic, and has thought into it unlike all the incarnations that came before it (yeah, I loved power puff girls and fosters home for imaginary friends, and MLP is written by the same person who made that) then I'd sooner be the weird guy who can understand what they did with this series, then just another person who scoffs and anything outside their box.
Remember how this use to be batman?
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Who in their right mind would want to take a series about a man in a goofy costume using shark repellent seriously?
Oh WAIT.
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anything even if the concept appears goofy and childish from the start can be made into something awesome just down to good writers.
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I like how someone likes to waltz in here every now and then and not say "meh not my thing, or this is weird" but they like to go on a tirade about how messed up we are and how were molestors and basement dwellers :,3
Taking the time to write it all out really must upset their sensibilities
Hydra009 ... bonus points for correct plural ... "pegasi" ;-)
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Have you guys seen the CMC episode, Crusaders of the Lost Mark?
Two thoughts:
1) Man, these Democratic caucuses are getting pretty rough.
2) OFMG guys. It's happening! It's totally happening! The feels! Oh the feels! Must...not...happy cry...
clop
Quote from: Hydra009 on November 15, 2015, 03:14:07 AM
Have you guys seen the CMC episode, Crusaders of the Lost Mark?
Two thoughts:
1) Man, these Democratic caucuses are getting pretty rough.
2) OFMG guys. It's happening! It's totally happening! The feels! Oh the feels! Must...not...happy cry...
I'm so proud of them
Quote from: Hydra009 on November 15, 2015, 03:14:07 AM
Have you guys seen the CMC episode, Crusaders of the Lost Mark?
Two thoughts:
1) Man, these Democratic caucuses are getting pretty rough.
2) OFMG guys. It's happening! It's totally happening! The feels! Oh the feels! Must...not...happy cry...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m317s4u5e_Q
1 - great choice for the cmc's cutie marks
2 - Does this mean I can't insult diamond tiara and silverspoon anymore now they've reformed? Guess if they reformed sunset shimmer it'll be the same.
3 - Maybe I can instead just call her mother Spoiled Bitch instead of Spoiled Rich (seriously, thats a name?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf2RBLv3lBw
My thoughts on Bronies? They're creepy and make me feel uncomfortable. There, I've said it.
Quote from: Jack89 on November 19, 2015, 12:10:32 AM
My thoughts on Bronies? They're creepy and make me feel uncomfortable. There, I've said it.
What ... you have never dreamed of being the most precious toy of a girl toddler? Has you inner child forgotten how fun it was to imagine that your toys are alive?
Quote from: Jack89 on November 19, 2015, 12:10:32 AMMy thoughts on Bronies? They're creepy and make me feel uncomfortable. There, I've said it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUanV5K9JSE
Look at this den of depraved weirdos! Disgusting! Run, before they love and tolerate you, too!
If something like this happened, I would totally watch some more MLP (besides the one with John DeLancie I've already seen).
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wait is that deadpool pony? Well him and pinky would make good friends.
QuoteMy thoughts on Bronies? They're creepy and make me feel uncomfortable. There, I've said it.
there really isn't anything more weird or creepy about bronies then trekkies, warsies, comic book fans, gaming nerds or football fans, its a gathering of people with a shared interest.
Someone in a video pointed out recently how the reason why shows like mlp, steven universe and adventure time are so popular is because there is actual focus on making in depth characters and backstory to what they write now, instead of just turning out another product for the purpose of selling shit (which hasbro does, but at least with mlp it does it with style).
Bronies are just people who like a fandom and not afraid to show it, the same as when warsies dress up in jedi costumes or when furries dress up in furry costumes.
There are creepy things in the world that are actually creepy, this isn't one of them.
Quote from: Munch on November 19, 2015, 05:37:13 PM
there really isn't anything more weird or creepy about bronies then trekkies, warsies, comic book fans, gaming nerds or football fans, its a gathering of people with a shared interest.
I'll admit that I haven't had much exposure to Bronies, but when grown men get obsessed with something small children are into, well, I get a little wary. It doesn't seem the same as Trekkies or your typical Comic Con fan type. I get those guys. But there is a distinct pedo alarm that goes off in my head when I see Bronies. It must be that overly protective father instinct.
Nah... While I don't get the Brony-thing I would think most pedo's would do their best to not be associated as one. At least not going to conventions dressed like a pony-furry and declaring their love for the show to all who can hear and declaring it proudly online. Truth is I'd wager most people look at that kind of behavior and think of it as strange and weird. And a lot of people would associate it with that. But a pedo would do his best not to be noticed, to not stand out, to not be associated with something that might make him/her look like a pedophile. And joining the bronies and declaring that out loud would thus be to attract just that kind of attention.
Unless it's a double-bluff, in which case... our children are fucked.
Quote from: Jack89 on November 19, 2015, 06:57:59 PM
I'll admit that I haven't had much exposure to Bronies, but when grown men get obsessed with something small children are into, well, I get a little wary. It doesn't seem the same as Trekkies or your typical Comic Con fan type. I get those guys. But there is a distinct pedo alarm that goes off in my head when I see Bronies. It must be that overly protective father instinct.
my nephews into spiderman, he's only 5, and yet full grown men read spiderman comics.
That's because those full grown men wish they had a girlfriend like Mary Jane ;-) ... and can repeat pickup lines like ... "haven't I seen you around the World Wide Web?" ;-))
Quote from: Baruch on November 19, 2015, 07:48:13 PM
That's because those full grown men wish they had a girlfriend like Mary Jane ;-) ... and can repeat pickup lines like ... "haven't I seen you around the World Wide Web?" ;-))
That is until you discover
that which shall not be named[spoiler](http://www.majorspoilers.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/onemoredaycovers/ASM544Cover_Quesada.jpg)[/spoiler]
Quote from: Jack89 on November 19, 2015, 06:57:59 PM
I'll admit that I haven't had much exposure to Bronies, but when grown men get obsessed with something small children are into, well, I get a little wary.
I still like Star Wars, TMNT, Marvel, and Gundam. Those all have lots of fans who are children as well as adult fans. MLP is no different in that regard.
Quote from: Baruch on November 19, 2015, 01:01:24 AM
What ... you have never dreamed of being the most precious toy of a girl toddler? Has you inner child forgotten how fun it was to imagine that your toys are alive?
1 Corinthians 13:11 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+13:11)
I once wanted an expensive Lego car which you could drive like a regular remote-controlled battery-operated toy car. I do not any more.
I still watch cartoons though, like Adventure Time, Family Guy and others.
Quote from: Sal1981 on November 20, 2015, 01:32:55 AMI still watch cartoons though, like Adventure Time, Family Guy and others.
I, too, still watch cartoons.
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Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on November 20, 2015, 08:11:15 AM
I, too, still watch cartoons.
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Most hentai is "boringly", or whatever, drawn. Particularly the TV-series hentai.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on November 20, 2015, 08:11:15 AM
I, too, still watch cartoons.
And I still read comic books ^^
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/ZUBMnld.jpg)[/spoiler]
Perhaps the ponies have changed since we first encountered them or became funnier or otherwise more enjoyable for some male adults...... What the h*ll do I know......
Gerard
Quote from: Munch on November 20, 2015, 01:59:24 PM
And I still read comic books ^^
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Love the use of fluttershy there
Quote from: Munch on November 19, 2015, 05:37:13 PM
there really isn't anything more weird or creepy about ... football fans
*sputters* well......buh.....ah.....THATS FIGHTING WORDS!!!
If you were three foot shorter and 150 lbs lighter I 'd kick yer ass...
Quote from: aitm on November 20, 2015, 02:54:29 PM
*sputters* well......buh.....ah.....THATS FIGHTING WORDS!!!
If you were three foot shorter and 150 lbs lighter I 'd kick yer ass...
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Quote from: GrinningYMIR on November 20, 2015, 02:22:24 PM
Love the use of fluttershy there
Always there when your talking about f(http://i.imgur.com/kzTMNlm.png)ing and j(http://i.imgur.com/kzTMNlm.png)ing and forcing a (http://i.imgur.com/kzTMNlm.png) inside a (http://i.imgur.com/kzTMNlm.png)
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on November 20, 2015, 02:22:24 PM
Love the use of fluttershy there
Cross-culturally, that reminded me of the demon king Ravana ravashing Sita, the wife of king Rama. In the end of the Ramayana ... Sita gets exiled, because of etiquette ... but maybe it was because she didn't fight the rape by Ravana hard enough?
Quote from: Gerard on November 20, 2015, 02:14:48 PMPerhaps the ponies have changed since we first encountered them or became funnier or otherwise more enjoyable for some male adults......
They really have. It's like 1960s Spider-man cartoon VS its 90s counterpart. HUGE difference.
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don't forget too..
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WHY HASBRO... WHY???!!!
That said, then we wouldn't have this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMMofOPRo7A
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yus
Ponies and unicorns are taking over the entertainment industry. They are freaking everywhere it seems. When I was younger, the definition of badass was to drink beer, wear black and tell authority figures to fuck off (Steve Austin). The younger generation is flipping that on it's head. Badass now is wearing pink and riding around on a stuffed unicorn. I've got to agree with the younger generation. This group of guys is the best thing going right now in pro wrestling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V0fje7WGKE
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on November 23, 2015, 10:39:05 PMPonies and unicorns are taking over the entertainment industry. They are freaking everywhere it seems.
If by everywhere, you mean a small niche on the internet and a smattering of conventions, then I guess they're "everywhere". No, Rainbow Dash and Applejack are not household names and if you asked random adults about FiM, they either wouldn't have a clue what you're talking about or would react as if you were talking about the mlp show from 20 years ago. Once in a blue moon, you'd find a brony. On this very thread, there's only maybe half a dozen people who have even watched the show. Just saying, you might be overselling FiM's presence a little bit.
QuoteWhen I was younger, the definition of badass was to drink beer, wear black and tell authority figures to fuck off (Steve Austin). The younger generation is flipping that on it's head. Badass now is wearing pink and riding around on a stuffed unicorn.
Firstly, when I think of badass, I tend to think that of that guy who stood in front of that tank column in China or Erik the Red or Spartacus or Bruce Lee. Or fictional people like Rick Grimes or Stannis the Mannis. Generally speaking, I don't closely associate being badass with drinking beer or wearing black or professional wrestling. I dunno. Maybe that's just me.
Secondly, being macho is not the same thing as being manly. I could elaborate, but I think Ron Swanson covered it nicely (http://imgur.com/gallery/UFwTC).
Thirdly, would it satisfy you to learn that I also heartily enjoy genetically-engineered supersoldiers in power armor slaughtering their way through hordes of aliens and knights fighting dragons and epic space battles? And yes, I also adore cute little puppies and magic ponies when the mood strikes me. Believe it or not, it is somehow possible to branch out into different things - perhaps even things not typically associated with boys - and not be effeminate.
My fictional interests have varied, I grew up on shows like ghostbusters, transformers, thundercats, batman TAS and TMNT, as well as reading comic books like x-men, batman, captain america and thor. But I also grew up on early my little pony, care bears, rainbow bright and strawberry shortcake. I love horror movies and creepy pastas, but I also like disney movies, Hayao Miyazaki films, and dozens of animated shows, including mlp.
This belief that people need to be type cast into only liking one genre of entertainment is ridiculous and primitive thinking, whoever thinks this doesn't have much of a varied pallet of interests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM5tVduFxoI
Fan made music is its own genre
Quote from: Hydra009 on November 24, 2015, 04:59:30 AM
Firstly, when I think of badass, I tend to think that of that guy who stood in front of that tank column in China or Erik the Red or Spartacus or Bruce Lee. Or fictional people like Rick Grimes or Stannis the Mannis. Generally speaking, I don't closely associate being badass with drinking beer or wearing black or professional wrestling. I dunno. Maybe that's just me.
I don't think drinking beer is badass either. I don't like beer or drink myself. I was talking about what was considered badass (entertainment wise) to my peers when I was around 11 or 12 years old in the late nineties. Kids that age certainly weren't spending their time thinking about Chinese guys standing in front of tanks. You are probably older than me and don't realize how huge of a craze wrestling was in the late 90s. The viewership these days is barely around a 2.0, so it's not the in thing anymore, but in the late 90s the ratings were massive. There were two wrestling shows going head to head on Monday nights, one getting up to numbers in the 6s, and the other got up to an 8.1. Chinese guy standing in front of a tank never had a chance competing with that.
A few years ago, there was a guy who's character (and real life) was straight edge. This guy was considered by the majority of fans to be the biggest badass in the company. The complete opposite from what we saw in the late 90s. Classic tough guy characters are still cool, but it's nice that we're seeing people change it up a bit with things like fan favourite characters who stress being drug free, or wear their hair like a unicorn horn and put up their unicorn horns rather than their middle fingers.
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I don't know how popular FiM is, but I've been seeing ponies and unicorns (mostly unicorns) on several tv shows lately and commercials. They are all over mainstream music videos. Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Miley Cyrus, Borgore, Kesha, etc. Taylor Swift is dressed up liked a unicorn. This stuff is super mainstream right now. FiM specifically might not be huge, but the unicorn stuff in general is huge.
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is it wrong that i clop to twilight sparkle?
I immediately thought of this thread when I say this commercial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbYWhdLO43Q
Quote from: Jack89 on November 26, 2015, 09:07:12 AM
I immediately thought of this thread when I say this commercial.
It's weird how I remember reading about the natural position for releaving yourself is to squat, since it's what early man did and still does other countries around the world, but I never gave it much thought after. When my boyfriend said he sometimes felt constipated, I tried recommending stuff, but he still sometimes gets it.
Think I'll buy one of these, or cheaper alternative (£30 for a small plastic foot stool is a bit much) and see the results.
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I feel angel is probably the most evil character on the show, but just hides it well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM5tVduFxoI
Grinning, your Rarity in santa outfit is festive, but I can't help but feel its not something she'd wear, given how it lacks countless diamonds and gems.
Quote from: Munch on December 07, 2015, 06:02:30 AM
Grinning, your Rarity in santa outfit is festive, but I can't help but feel its not something she'd wear, given how it lacks countless diamonds and gems.
They're on her panties and bra :3
oh you!
The hidden gems !
this week end I was forced by bronies to play the mlp card game. That's right the mlp card game. Designed for card game players such as my self and Cough eh hem Magic.
It wasn't actually bad. I had fun and it was not just a copy cat MTG knock off. It has it's own play style and I liked it. Some said it wasn't really designed for kids and I doubt that it was but It wasn't really all that difficult to learn IMO.
So branch out and play mlp card game!
Quote from: doorknob on December 07, 2015, 08:40:48 PM
this week end I was forced by bronies to play the mlp card game. That's right the mlp card game. Designed for card game players such as my self and Cough eh hem Magic.
It wasn't actually bad. I had fun and it was not just a copy cat MTG knock off.
Intriguing. I'll have to check that out sometime. The MTG rules would actually fit nicely with MLP. Flying, flanking, haste, banding, etc.
I have a couple of "bronie" friends. They not only watch the show, they have t-shirts, lamps, cups, figures, dolls, posters, the card game, bedspreads, sexualized pony desktop backgrounds occasionally... I find it creepy that grown men are so into something my daughter grew out of before age 12. If it was just about liking the show, cool. No problem there. But that's not what a bronie is. A bronie is...something else. I don't know what, but there is a lot more to it than just liking the show. They are adamant, passionate about it and often the merchandise that goes with it. I'm pretty sure they make more off grown men today than they ever did on little girls back in the day. I'm getting old and I don't understand it so I want to kill it. You damned kids and your sex ponies these days! What is the world coming to?
We've heard every argument and insult under the rainbow dash (pun)
Have fun with that
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on December 08, 2015, 05:04:07 PM
We've heard every argument and insult under the rainbow dash (pun)
Have fun with that
I didn't think I was being insulting.
Okay, I just re-read what I posted and I see no insult there. There wasn't even an argument. More a statement. I'm old, it's new, I don't like it, grumpy-old-man closer. No insult or argument. Unless you're seeing something I am not.
You called it creepy and then listed off all of the merch, wouldn't be creepy if it were all about football and the like would it? No because that's accepted by the mainstream people. Sports fantatic is normal and a brony is a pathetic man child.
You'll excuse me and I apologize if I'm coming off as angry and if you didn't mean to offend or attack. But I've come across this so much it's like I'm gay in the middle of the Bible Belt. And I'm bisexual to boot. So I'm everyone's favorite.
Bottom line, it's a good show and I enjoy it and everything about it. But I don't seek to convert people and if you don't like it it's cool. It's alright to not like things just don't be a dick about it
Sport paraphernalia is Boss! I know a guy who has a sneaker collection of over 150 Nike pairs, in original packaging ;-) It is kind of cute in a Peter Pan sort of way, this refusal to grow up ;-)
I think I guy who isn't afraid to like mlp is sexy. Be who you are not who others want you to be.
Call me sexy then doorknob
Quote from: widdershins on December 08, 2015, 04:57:31 PMI find it creepy that grown men are so into something my daughter grew out of before age 12.
1980s cartoon =/= 2010s cartoon. The later is deliberately aimed at adults in the same way that disney and pixar movies are. Is it really such a shock that they have an adult audience?
QuoteIf it was just about liking the show, cool. No problem there. But that's not what a bronie is. A bronie is...something else. I don't know what, but there is a lot more to it than just liking the show. They are adamant, passionate about it and often the merchandise that goes with it.
Soo...this "something else" is not just liking the show but really liking the show? I'm not following you. Lot of shows have passionate fans. That's fairly normal, not something particularly deviant or creepy.
Quote from: doorknob on December 08, 2015, 07:24:30 PMBe who you are not who others want you to be.
Exactly! And I'm pretty sure that was the moral of at least one episode and one of Rainbow Dash's main traits (authenticity).
I was watching a few episodes of glass of water, with Lily/Jerry Peet, and came to the one where he talked about the sisterhoof social episode, where big mac dressed up like a woman. I saw the episode myself, and thought it had some funny moments, but it did make me think about the of the only major problems I have with MLP.
Anyone could argue that they don't want anything to do with MLP:FIS because 'its a show for little girls' or 'bronies are perverts' and the usual shit that comes associated from assholes who don't bother to dig deeper into the reason why full grown adults watch such a show, instead just jump to conclusions.
However, after having watched MLP:FIS, I've grown to like the show, not as an avid fanboy bronie, but as just someone who enjoys the same on the same level as when I enjoyed Rugrats or Justice League unlimited, I don't rush out to guy merchandise or dress in costumes about the characters, I just enjoy a good, well written animated show, and honestly compared to a lot of stuff now, its one of the only newer shows I've gotten into in recent years (I haven't picked up on gravity falls, legend of korra or steven universe, depsite how good they all sound).
But anyway, one of the flaws I have with MLP, which sometimes I can ignore if its a good story that doesn't draw attention to it, is how male characters are treated in the overall dynamic of the show. The old argument is simply that MLP is a show aimed at little girls so its bound to be a female driven story. I'd be fine with that, being someone who grew up on shows like sabrina the teenage witch, Daria, and two of my fav disney movies of all time are mulan and the princess and the frog, with strong female leads.
But its just how completely blantant it is in MLP:FIS at how men really are just so short cast in everything, although there are men in the show, they more come off as stereotypes or tropes more then characters with any depth. Spike being the only constant male lead, but whos a little kid, and when he grows up into an adult dragon he becomes a jerk. Big mac, who never says any words outside of 'yep' and 'nope', EXCEPT, when he was in sisterhoof social, where he spoke all the time in drag sounding like a southern drag queen (only time he speaks up is when he's more leaning towards the opposite gender).
Of course there is discord, who for me is one of the best characters on the show, but even then, he kind of get pulled down several pegs by the most suger sweet character in the show, fluttershy, which redeems him good, but still makes him seem a little more lost.
I'm not arguing that its not a good thing to have such strong female characters in any show, the way they've written the female leads in MLP, including the rulers, is really well done, and when looking at contrast between characters like rainbow dash and fluttershy, between applejack and rarity (whos my fav character btw), they have their own personalities, flaws and backgrounds that make them great characters.
But when I think of shows as previously mentioned, ones like Rugrats, or ones like Recess, or Hey Arnold, or Teen Titans, all shows that had a mix of male and female leads, all with their own characters and personalities, it just makes it seem that today, in this current generation, MLPs more matriarchal plot is out of place, when so many shows that came years before perfected the art of having strong male and female lead characters.
If they made a show today, one that was at the same age range as MLP, but was primarily male driven, with just some background female characters, I feel there would be some major rants about it from modern media. Back in the 80s shows like transformers, TMNT, thundercats and similar shows were like that, but that was decades ago, it I just wonder, isn't it kind of out of place in 2015 to have a show that primerally focuses on one gender role, with very little positive male leads?
Even if the argument still rests that its a show aimed at little girls, don't little girls deserve to see males in a positive light too, as strong individuals, like women, like how little girls have moms and dads?
Yeah, this was whats been whizzing around in my head about it lately. I still love the show don't get me wrong, I just wonder if this one aspect of the show is as much a dated concept as the primarily male driven cartoons of the 80s
speaking of which.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoOW1Vvl2oU
Antonio Dazzle, Señor Dusk and Andy Blaze?
YOU THINK I DON'T RECOGNIZE JOJO'S BIZARRE ADVENTURE, MUNCH!?!!?
Yeah, Friendship is Manly has a very Jojo Fabulous feel. Always good for a laugh.
QuoteYou called it creepy and then listed off all of the merch, wouldn't be creepy if it were all about football and the like would it? No because that's accepted by the mainstream people. Sports fantatic is normal and a brony is a pathetic man child.
If it was a kid's sport as overly sexualized as MLP is? Yeah probably.
I am all for Bronies, I don't have a problem with them (as I've said before I probably have weirder fetishes), but at the same time have to keep it real... there IS a huge difference between loving a sports team and sexualizing a children's cartoon.
Quote from: Shiranu on January 01, 2016, 02:27:59 PM
If it was a kid's sport as overly sexualized as MLP is? Yeah probably.
I am all for Bronies, I don't have a problem with them (as I've said before I probably have weirder fetishes), but at the same time have to keep it real... there IS a huge difference between loving a sports team and sexualizing a children's cartoon.
Yeah, but all popular cartoons get the rule 34 treatment. Last time I checked, pokemon (bizarrely enough) was the most popular show for that. I don't recall any of us upset with Pokemon fans because of that. Because, obviously, they can't control that and no one has to see that stuff if they don't want to.
These guys want to fuck cartoon ponies. That's pretty weird.
Is it the worst thing going on in the world right now? Nah.
conclusion: who cares?
Quote from: Shiranu on January 01, 2016, 02:27:59 PM
If it was a kid's sport as overly sexualized as MLP is? Yeah probably.
I am all for Bronies, I don't have a problem with them (as I've said before I probably have weirder fetishes), but at the same time have to keep it real... there IS a huge difference between loving a sports team and sexualizing a children's cartoon.
As Hydra said, the rule34 applies to everything, so using the sexualization of mlp characters as the reason to think of anyone else liking the show as being creepy just don't work, anymore then those who still like pokemon, marvel comics, transformers, mario and sonic, all who have listings on rule34.
Its one of these issues where if you take any argument people have against those who like MLP:FiM, they can easily be broken down, yet those people would still see them as reason to hate on bronies, kind of like how ultra feminists hate all men, and refuse to listen to anyone who disagrees with their world view.
Its like when I was playing Wow the other day (yeah I still play it), I saw someone on the trade chat start yelling out how 'the alliance is so childish, omg, their played by little kids!", an argument i've heard for years on forums and in chat. But being that I play both factions in wow, horde and alliance, I've found that there is no difference, both sides have its immature asshats, trolls and rabble rousers, because that is an online community, and the made up factions do not determine what each side is like, the same as fans of MLP, football or starwars do not determine if they are decent people or assholes.
Quote from: Nonsensei on January 01, 2016, 03:24:55 PM
These guys want to fuck cartoon ponies. That's pretty weird.
Is it the worst thing going on in the world right now? Nah.
conclusion: who cares?
Like say, rule34 applies to everything, so its not an aspect that determines a fandom.
jesus h christ, I never even heard of rule 34…….but here I am again in at the fucking weird thread……..oy vey.
I was writing a full response... but it's just not worth it. I have no problems with Bronies; if something floats your goat... go for it. But it is fundamentally different than sports fanaticism when such a vocal minority or majority are sexualizing a little girl's cartoon (and I again don't have a problem with that... nor Pokemon being sexualized... nor whatever. I think it has nothing to do with what demograph it is aimed at).
The point I am making is that there is a different dynamic going on and you have to expect "normal" people to view it as odd... just as I would expect people to find some of my fetishes odd or I find BDSM odd. When you add into the equation that it is something aimed at kids... people look at people my age who are still REALLY into Pokemon or whatever weird too. It's not like Bronies are singled out.
You also have to take into consideration just how vocal sexual Bronies are compared to other sexual subgroups of cartoon fans. I see bronies literally everywhere; I do not see people rocking sexy Pikachu or pornhub Kim Possible avatars and posting said pictures at nearly the same rate as Bronies do. So if you don't want Bronies to be so negatively judged... that is something that should really be addressed within the Bronie community.
Yes but shiranu, again, your implying that because of a few people who sexualized animated ponies, that all adult fans of the show are like that, and when really that's just a minority of fans, so it's not a valid reason for anyone to hate on bronies just because of that minority.
I've not ever sexualized any characters in a show like this, since their like 95% female cast, but I love the show. Likewise I've never sexualized dexters lab, powerpuff girls, tiny toon adventures, animaniacs or fosters home for imaginary friends, because they are just shows that are well made, funny, and don't need any sexualization to make them watchable.
And for someone like me who's favour falls in with big, hyper masculine, near or full naked super heroes, saying I can really love a show where sex isn't needed to make it appealing, well it says it all really
Quote from: Munch on January 01, 2016, 04:10:36 PM
Like say, rule34 applies to everything, so its not an aspect that determines a fandom.
Is there a word for when a theory that is supposed to apply to everything falls apart when it is applied to the theory itself? There is no porn of rule 34.
Quote from: Nonsensei on January 01, 2016, 06:13:22 PM
Is there a word for when a theory that is supposed to apply to everything falls apart when it is applied to the theory itself? There is no porn of rule 34.
(http://i.imgur.com/BoqJEsR.jpg)
its no picasso, but I think it conveys the depth of the situation.
Quote from: Munch on January 01, 2016, 06:28:38 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/BoqJEsR.jpg)
its no picasso, but I think it conveys the depth of the situation.
My dick is rock hard.
Didn't know you were into that kinda thing ;)
Quote from: Munch on January 01, 2016, 06:44:33 PM
Didn't know you were into that kinda thing ;)
Hey at least I can say I'm not a Brony.
I'm apparently not saying what I think I am, or conveying it properly, so never mind. Because that is not what I have said for the 3rd time.
Quote from: Munch on January 01, 2016, 04:04:02 PMIts like when I was playing Wow the other day (yeah I still play it), I saw someone on the trade chat start yelling out how 'the alliance is so childish, omg, their played by little kids!", an argument i've heard for years on forums and in chat.
During my time playing, that's pretty much what I assumed. But apparently that's not true, or at least, not true now. I remember the alliance outnumbering the horde 3 to 1 in the early days. I don't have the data to back this up, but I got the impression that the human and nelf races were the most popular races and it just snowballed from there since if you want to play with your friends, and your friend is a human or nelf, then you have to roll an alliance character. Horde was disliked because their characters were more bestial and "ugly-looking". Trolls were the most disliked. But then horde got a more attractive-looking race - the blood elves - and the demographics changed dramatically.
I'm thinking I might walk into the library here in Utah, stumble, grab my gut and scream "Oh my god, I'm having a bronie!" and then run out.
My current bronie moment. :biggrin:
Quote from: stromboli on January 01, 2016, 07:34:38 PM
I'm thinking I might walk into the library here in Utah, stumble, grab my gut and scream "Oh my god, I'm having a bronie!" and then run out.
My current bronie moment. :biggrin:
You need to find a pink wig too, walk in dressed normally, fall over, slip it on and then stand up and yell, being shocked by the sudden assault to your hair.
Honestly, the weirdest stuff I've seen from the Brony community isn't the sexualization.
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Yeeeeeah... hard to unsee cupcakes and smile
There's a (sort of) happy ending:
I’ve stoked the fire, seen more pain than you can know
The tears of the broken have washed away my soul
Pushed by desire to change the way my stream will flow
Now I’ve awoken, and I’m taking back control
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on December 08, 2015, 06:18:22 PM
You called it creepy and then listed off all of the merch, wouldn't be creepy if it were all about football and the like would it? No because that's accepted by the mainstream people. Sports fantatic is normal and a brony is a pathetic man child.
You'll excuse me and I apologize if I'm coming off as angry and if you didn't mean to offend or attack. But I've come across this so much it's like I'm gay in the middle of the Bible Belt. And I'm bisexual to boot. So I'm everyone's favorite.
Bottom line, it's a good show and I enjoy it and everything about it. But I don't seek to convert people and if you don't like it it's cool. It's alright to not like things just don't be a dick about it
Fair point. My apologies.
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on December 08, 2015, 06:18:22 PM
You called it creepy and then listed off all of the merch, wouldn't be creepy if it were all about football and the like would it? No because that's accepted by the mainstream people. Sports fantatic is normal and a brony is a pathetic man child.
You'll excuse me and I apologize if I'm coming off as angry and if you didn't mean to offend or attack. But I've come across this so much it's like I'm gay in the middle of the Bible Belt. And I'm bisexual to boot. So I'm everyone's favorite.
Bottom line, it's a good show and I enjoy it and everything about it. But I don't seek to convert people and if you don't like it it's cool. It's alright to not like things just don't be a dick about it
You know, something about your argument didn't seem quite right, so I went back and read what I wrote again. You took general statements I made and applied them to specific examples which best exemplified your position, misrepresenting what I said in the process. I did not "call it creepy
and then list off all the merch". I listed off all the merch, and then I listed the sexualized representations of humanized barnyard animals
and then called it creepy, and I stand by that. A sexualized portrayal of an apparently underage, inter-species nature is, in fact, creepy.
You went on to list your sexual orientation as if to suggest that I was "gay bashing". In fact, it did put me on the offensive as if I accidentally had. But you will noticed that every time I mentioned gender I
also mentioned age. Having kids of my own, I have found some kids shows that I have loved. Drake and Josh and iCarley come to mind. Those two shows share a couple of actors, of note in this case is Miranda Cosgrove, who I remember saying a few years back that she found it "creepy" when a 40 year old man would approach her to sign a picture of herself from when she was, I think the number she gave was 12. It is a natural tendency, at least in America, for people to find it creepy when adults take too much interest in children or childish things. And don't forget, I'm a bit older. I remember the ponies as being toys for little girls. Truthfully I haven't even watched the current show and have no interest in doing so because, to me, it's for little girls. Or boys, if they're into that sort of thing. I don't judge. But the "little" thing, that's just a given for me. I have children who have outgrown My Little Ponies. It is my life experience that Ponies is something people "outgrow". Of course, so is Drake and Josh, but I really like Crazy Steve/Spencer. I wish he would get cast in a movie. Maybe take the next Adam Sandler movie, remove Adam Sandler and every person he has ever acted with except Steve Buscemi, throw in Jerry Trainor and that's something I would watch.
Finally, football merchandise has nothing whatsoever to do with merchandise for a show. It has more in common with Star Wars merchandise. For the record, Star Wars fans (actual fanatics) are also creepy and incomprehensible to me.
That is my opinion and it is valid. If you don't agree with it, that opinion is also valid. But don't paint me as being some homophobic hater who said something terrible about you, because that is absolutely not what happened. Given that your avatar is a sexualized, scantily clad, apparently teenage horse with nice tits, I can see where you might have been offended by what I said, but is that
really a problem with my opinion? I also find sex with actual horses creepy. If you're into it, does that
really mean I'm a bad person for being creeped out by it? It is the natural, human reaction, the reaction most would say is "normal", to sexualizing farm (or any) animals. I'm also creeped out by people being into chicks with cat ears and tails. Why? I have no desire to fuck cats, so seeing a cat with a half-naked woman's body with big titties is disturbing, and it is okay that I find that disturbing. It is normal and it is valid. I have no problem with you being into Ponies. I can't be a bronie-racist. After all, I did say I have bronie friends ;) But yes, it is "creepy" to me. If that bothers you, the problem is yours, not mine.
Yeah. I have to second that.
Brony culture is pretty creepy...
and before you all pounce on me, hear me out:
It's a show intended for children. That being said, it also draws in a lot of adults. And that's not necessarily the weird part. The weird part is things that are intended for children, but also, for whatever reason, draws in a lot of adults.... wreaks of pedophilia. Not saying you guys are pedos, but coming from someone that is on the outside of this culture looking in, that is the underlying reason why they think you're weird and in turn think they hate you. I don't hate you, we all have our weird shit we're in to, but this isn't like anime where there are so many different genres of the thing you're in to. This is one show.
That being said, I still stand by my statement at the beginning of this thread: "Fuck haters. There are always going be people that hate on the shit that you like and identify with, so just be you regardless.
Like widdershins said, though... if it bothers you, the problem is yours, not them. If you think you can tell people they can't feel a certain way about something, you better get off your high horse, buddy.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on January 07, 2016, 06:31:36 PM
Yeah. I have to second that.
Brony culture is pretty creepy...
and before you all pounce on me, hear me out:
It's a show intended for children. That being said, it also draws in a lot of adults. And that's not necessarily the weird part. The weird part is things that are intended for children, but also, for whatever reason, draws in a lot of adults.... wreaks of pedophilia. Not saying you guys are pedos, but coming from someone that is on the outside of this culture looking in, that is the underlying reason why they think you're weird and in turn think they hate you. I don't hate you, we all have our weird shit we're in to, but this isn't like anime where there are so many different genres of the thing you're in to. This is one show.
That being said, I still stand by my statement at the beginning of this thread: "Fuck haters. There are always going be people that hate on the shit that you like and identify with, so just be you regardless.
like I've said myself, I'm not a bronie, anymore then I am a furry, but I do watch the show, and see how the writers of the show pay attention to both the younger and older fans, its not just aimed at one target audience now, kind of like how shows like animaniacs were targeted at both kids and adults.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xmAC9Qu908
Its not pedophilic to watch well written kids shows, like the current mlp, steven universe or legend of korra, I'm gay, and 98% of the cast in MLP is female, and I still enjoy the show, so it clearly has no sexual motivation for me to watch it (unlike say justice league waiting to see when 90s aquaman would show up with his mullet).
I'm not arguing with you Munch. And I agree. Good writing = large fan base. I still love Animaniacs, although there is a ton of adult humor in Animaniacs... I don't know how much adult humor is in MLP, but that's besides the point.
My point is freedom of speech goes both ways. Someone can say "I like this thing" and some has just as much right to say "I think that thing you like is {Insert judgment here}"
Just because I think someone's Fandom is creepy doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad Fandom, but at the same time, it doesn't make it wrong for the people to think that it is creepy.
People say that I'm weird for liking anime. I smile and move on with my life. That's what adults do. They realize insults are nothing but talk.... and move on.
Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one and they all stink. The running theme of this last year was being offended. "I'm offended wah wah wah" "I'm triggered by what you're offended by" "I'm offended by your triggers" Everyone has become so petty... Worked up about stupid things like people insulting their brony ism. Why the hell do you care what other people think? Just grow up and watch your cartoon without being bothered by other people's opinions. :lol:
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oh don't worry pickle I'm not someone who gets offended like that, I've seen some youtubers make videos on their opinion of things like bronies or furries, and lot of the time I just find it funny, even agreeing with some points, like the part of where there is a huge listing of mlp on rule34, which just.. well, like rule34 applies to.
But then rule34 applies to all, like say in anime, the hentei fandom of underage looking girls in skimpy costumes, the aspect of the rule34 is in any fandom.
MLPs a good show, and while there are elements in the fandom of those who take it to far and 'clop', from what i've seen of the fandom on certain youtube videos, they are just regular people who happen to enjoy it like any other fandom.
its like how I'm not a football fan, and while i know football fans can be pretty rabid in the heat of certain games, I just acknowledge there are those who do, and the rest ate just there to enjoy a game they love, so i'll not think of them all like the few thugs who ruin it for everyone else.
I don't even state my opinion about MLP in general, Like I'm saying, what my and other people's opinion about what other people like, doesn't matter. That is the reason for me bringing up my opinion in the first place, to give a ground to explain that it doesn't matter what people's opinions are of your interests. It boggles my mind that people get so bent out of shape about trivial shit like that.
This is an extreme example because it involves masturbation, but... Am I going to get offended by people telling me I'm weird for, on rare occasion, browsing through r/dota2smut? No. I know most people think it's fucking weird. But I don't care... like watching MLP, jerking off to porn-ified DoTA characters doesn't hurt anyone. If people don't like that, they can go fuck themselves. The people that are whining about people telling them their weirdos for watching MLP need to learn that too; that some people can just fuck off... their opinion shouldn't matter. Yeah. I don't like MLP. I tried watching an episode and thought it was stupid. I think it's weird that grown adults like it. But guess what? What I think or have an opinion on... should not dictate how you live your life.
I'll say it again, because it think it's hilarious the way I worded it, but it's also true:
Just grow up and watch your cartoon without being bothered by other people's opinions.
(munch, I wasn't directing this post at you, btw... it was directed in more of a general way of speaking)
Here.
http://inoveryourhead.net/the-complete-guide-to-not-giving-a-fuck/
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QuoteOk, I have a confession to make.
I have spent almost my whole lifeâ€" 31 yearsâ€" caring far too much about offending people, worrying if I’m cool enough for them, or asking myself if they are judging me.
I can’t take it anymore. It’s stupid, and it’s not good for my well being. It has made me a punching bagâ€" a flighty, nervous wuss. But worse than that, it has made me someone who doesn’t take a stand for anything. It has made me someone who stood in the middle, far too often, and not where I cared to stand, for fear of alienating others. No more. Not today.
Today, ladies and gentlemen, is different.
We’re going to talk about the cure. We’re going to talk about what’s necessary. We’re going to talk about the truth.
Do you wonder if someone is talking shit about you? Whether your friends will approve? Have you become conflict-avoidant? Spineless?
Well, it’s time you started not giving a fuck.
FACT NUMBER 1. People are judging you right now.
Yes, it’s really happening right at this moment. Some people don’t like you, and guess what? There’s nothing you can do about it. No amount of coercion, toadying, or pandering to their interests will help. In fact, the opposite is often true; the more you stand for something, the more they respect you, whether it’s grudgingly or not.
What people truly respect is when you draw the line and say “you will go no further.†They may not like this behaviour, but so what? These are people don’t like you anyway, why should you attempt to please people who don’t care for you in the first place?
Right. Then, there’s Internet trolls. That’s a whole other thing.
Regular people are fineâ€" you don’t actually hear it when they’re talking behind your back. But on the web, you do see it, which changes the dynamic drastically. They have an impact because they know you have your vanity searches, etc. But the real problem with Internet haters is that they confirm your paranoid delusion that everyone out there secretly hates you.
Thankfully, that’s not actually true. So the first noble truth is that most people don’t even care that you’re alive. Embrace this, my friends, for it is true freedom. The world is vast and you are small, and therefore you may do as you wish and cast your thoughts of those who dislike it to the side.
FACT NUMBER 2. You don’t need everyone to like you.
This stuff is crazy, I know, but it’s cool, you’ll get used to it. Here’s the next thing: not only do most people not know that you exist, and some are judging you, but it totally does not matter even if they are.
How liberating this is may not even hit you yet, but it will. Check this out: when people don’t like you, nothing actually happens. The world does not end. You don’t feel them breathing down your neck. In fact, the more you ignore them and just go about your business, the better off you are.
You know when they say “the best revenge is a life well lived� Well, this is true, but it isn’t the whole truth. A life well lived is great, yes, but it cannot happen while you are sweating about who your detractors are and what they think. What you have to do, what you have no choice but to do, is accept it and move on.
So not giving a fuck is actually a necessary precedent to create a good life for yourself. It can’t happen without it. That’s why you have to begin today.
FACT NUMBER 3. It’s your people that matter.
Ok, so you’ve adjusted to the fact that most people in the world are barely aware of your existence, and you’re also conscious of the fact that those who don’t like you are in the obscenely small minority and don’t actually matter. Awesome. Next you need to realize that the people who do care about you, and no one else, are those you need to focus on.
Relationships are weird. Once we’re in one (with family, a spouse, whatever), we promptly begin to take the other person for granted and move on to impressing strangers insteadâ€" say, our boss. Then, once we’ve impressed our boss, we start taking him for granted too, and so on, in an endless cycle of apathy. It’s like we always prefer to impress and charm the new than to work on what we already have.
But these peopleâ€" your championsâ€" they understand your quest or your cause. They make you feel good when you’re around them, make you laugh or make you feel like you can just be yourself. They make you feel relaxed or at ease. You’ve shared things with them. They’re important. Focus on them instead.
FACT NUMBER 4. Those who don’t give a fuck change the world. The rest do not.
So I’m reading this horrible book right now by Stephen King called the Long Walk. It’s a contest where people walk without sleeping or resting, and if they do stop, they are killed. (That’s actually every Stephen King bookâ€" “there’s a clown, but it kills!†“There’s a car, but it kills!†etc.)
I suspect this book is a metaphor for war, but it also captures perseverance very well. What it takes to move past anything is to simply realize that your obstacle is unimportant, and that it can be dismissed. This is true whether you’re running a marathon or trying to get to Mars.
If you dismiss the things that do not matter; if you remove those things from your mind and focus on what must be done; if you understand that your time is limited and decide to work now; only then will you be able to get to the finish line. Otherwise, you will be dissuaded into living a life you aren’t interested in.
Side note: You need to handle failure and obscurity better. You may be in a tough place right now where you feel lonely or like a loser. No worries, we’ve all been there. But it’s time for you to realize how common these things are, and that they’re experienced by even the most successful and happiest people in the world. Those people get past them, and you will too.
The eye is watching
You want to know something? This actually has nothing to do with anyone else. It has everything to do with you.
I had a discussion with Jonathan Fields the other week that was about the use of swearing (and “true voiceâ€) on blogs. I watched him on a Skype video as we did this, and I could actually pinpoint the moment where he was about to say “fuck†but almost stopped himself. It was amazing. So I called him out on it. “You felt it just now, didn’t you?â€
Everyone has an internetal eye. It always watching. It has been slowly constructed by society at large and by your friends and family, and it checks you for unacceptable behaviour. If you have had it around for long enough, you actually start to believe that the eye is you, and that you’re “being reasonable†or some other rationalization.
But the eye isn’t you at all. It is a prison, and you have justified its existence by obeying it. It’s strong because you let it be strong.
But the secret, the part that’s amazing, is that it can’t do anything to stop you, even if it wanted to. It’s an eye. It can only watch. The rest of you is free to act as you wish.
How to get back your self-respect in five easy steps
STEP 1. Do things that you consider embarrassing.
My girlfriend and I have been breaking in Vibram Fivefingers in preparation for the massive walk we are doing. Have you ever seen these shoes? They’re amazing for you knees and give you no blisters, but they are the ugliest thing imaginable. Yesterday, I wore them with a sweet bowtie I put on for Easter. I looked like a crazy person.
As I said at the beginning of this post, I am deeply aware and can become quite upset by people’s judgmentâ€" I think a lot of people are, but don’t admit it. But as I walked by people in my techno-clown outfit, not a single person looked at me. Nobody cared, and it slowly dawned on me that even if people did look at me weird, they just walked by. Later, they would forget about me entirely.
You must try this. Find your internal filters and break them, one at a time. Notice how society, like an ocean, smoothes over the waves you make, until what you do gets eliminated, or becomes the status quo. Work with this.
STEP 2. Accept, or deal with, awkwardness.
It’s widely known that interviewers get their best material by being quiet and allowing silence to force words out of a politician or celebrity.
You may be uncomfortable with silence. I know I still am. But I have been working on it and have to say that it is a much more serene state to be in than trying to cover it up with random babbling just to fill up the air. This is one type of awkwardness, a kind that you should feel comfortable about and learn to live with.
Another kind of social awkwardness is this in-between space where you might have done something wrong or been wronged, but don’t say anything. I’ve been given a few harsh lessons in my time and come away realizing that the freedom that comes from talking about an uncomfortable truth is better than the comfort of avoiding that talk altogether.
Someone told me recently that the Clintons’ method for earning respect in politics is this: if someone pushes you, push back twice as hard. This is much better than awkwardness. It’s clear, it’s not passive aggressive, and you know where you stand. Start doing this immediately.
STEP 3. Refuse boundaries.
The video above was taken in 1970, right when the Front de Libération du Québec had killed Premier Pierre Laporte and put his body in the trunk of a car. Trudeau’s “Just watch me†is one of the most famous phrases in Canadian political history. The journalists are trying to trap him into choosing on-camera between a safety/police-state and civil liberties/freedom but Trudeau refuses their boxes.
The Liberal Party of Canada no longer has any balls, but for us, there’s still hope. Walk where you want to walk. Don’t accept false choices. Don’t let people dictate how you should live your life. Definitely don’t listen to the eye.
STEP 4. Tell the truth.
You don’t need to be an asshole, but the world does not need another conflict-avoidant, evasive person. No one wants another individual who steps in line with everyone else. The status quo is doing fine without you, so it’s up to you to call bullshit if you see it.
Don’t mind-read either. Telling the truth means seeing the truth, not adding your own layer of sugar coating or suspected emotion on top of it.
STEP 5. Begin your new life.
This step can’t happen without the others, but once you’ve gotten here, you can safely begin to explore a whole new worldâ€" one where anything you do is fine as long as it isn’t seriously hurting anyone else. Wanna explore old abandoned buildings? No problem, as long as you’re ready to live with the consequences. Feel like hanging from hooks or get whipped by a dominatrix? Go ahead, but be safe about it.
Once you begin on this path, you start to discover that practically everyone is capable of understanding the weird things that you do. In fact, it makes you interesting and worth paying attention to, further feeding into your plans of world domination, should you have any.
But none of this fun can happen without you recognizing, and walking past, the eye. Doing this is a powerful act of control which builds momentum and makes you strong.
Take back your self respect. Do it todayâ€" try it right now. Wear something ugly. Do something stupid. Tell someone the truth.
It doesn’t fucking matter.
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Quote from: PickelledEggs on January 07, 2016, 07:11:32 PMMy point is freedom of speech goes both ways. Someone can say "I like this thing" and some has just as much right to say "I think that thing you like is {Insert judgment here}"
Just because I think someone's Fandom is creepy doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad Fandom, but at the same time, it doesn't make it wrong for the people to think that it is creepy.
People say that I'm weird for liking anime. I smile and move on with my life. That's what adults do. They realize insults are nothing but talk.... and move on.
I agree. I'm not hurt or offended by such things. But the MLP fandom as whole (and me in particular) is pretty defensive about this stuff, and for good reason. I'd be like dealing with people saying that anime is child porn and tentacle rape, that people who watch anime are Hikikomori perverts, that anime is meant only for children and has little value. Of course, none of that is true, so there's a strong urge to reply with a rebuttal. Hell, we do that all the time over here when someone has an equally ill-formed opinion on atheism or science.
And yes, blowing up on such people is a mistake. The accuser won't reconsider his/her position in the slightest, in fact their position may even get more entrenched. They may perhaps even wonder why they're getting so much "hate" from the people they just accused of some pretty serious social transgressions.
You can let the accusation go unchallenged and perhaps taken as unvarnished truth. Or you can speak up and start a mini flame war. Lose-lose. It's a very frustrating position to be in, especially because MLP is not terribly far from mainstream acceptance. It could be no big deal, with fans doing their thing, and non-fans generally not caring about one way or the other. We might even look back and laugh about how silly the bruhaha about it was. Instead, it's just this endless clash between fandom and hatedom with the same ol' arguments from 2010. It's very tiresome. I don't want to deal with it, but I'm afraid that if I don't, it'll go uncontested and become the dominant view.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on January 07, 2016, 06:31:36 PM
Brony culture is pretty creepy...
and before you all pounce on me, hear me out:
It's a show intended for children. That being said, it also draws in a lot of adults. And that's not necessarily the weird part. The weird part is things that are intended for children, but also, for whatever reason, draws in a lot of adults.... wreaks of pedophilia. Not saying you guys are pedos, but coming from someone that is on the outside of this culture looking in, that is the underlying reason why they think you're weird and in turn think they hate you.
I could sort of understand this argument if there were tons of shows meant for children that do have massive adult fanbases. Disney, Marvel, cartoons in general. Doctor Who started as a kids show. Even Lauren Faust's previous work, Powerpuff Girls, was famous for its adult appeal. Is it really that strange that she'd do it twice? A show having a periphery adult demographic is VERY common (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/PeripheryDemographic/WesternAnimation). So common that I have a hard time buying that it looks sinister from the outside.
The pedo argument is a lot like the bestiality argument - it just doesn't follow that because people like a show and some people create rule 34 versions of it that the fans (who may or may not even look at the rule 34) would be out for your kids.
Yep, and let's be honest, things like marvel cartoons has a child audience as well as an adult one, but just because I look up eroticized drawings of wolverine or hulk [spoiler](https://hornygaygreek.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/gay-cartoon-wolverine.jpg)[/spoiler] doesn't mean I'm after children, like most fox news presenters would claim.
Quote from: Hydra009 on January 07, 2016, 11:04:06 PM
I agree. I'm not hurt or offended by such things. But the MLP fandom as whole (and me in particular) is pretty defensive about this stuff, and for good reason. I'd be like dealing with people saying that anime is child porn and tentacle rape, that people who watch anime are Hikikomori perverts, that anime is meant only for children and has little value. Of course, none of that is true, so there's a strong urge to reply with a rebuttal. Hell, we do that all the time over here when someone has an equally ill-formed opinion on atheism or science.
And yes, blowing up on such people is a mistake. The accuser won't reconsider his/her position in the slightest, in fact their position may even get more entrenched. They may perhaps even wonder why they're getting so much "hate" from the people they just accused of some pretty serious social transgressions.
You can let the accusation go unchallenged and perhaps taken as unvarnished truth. Or you can speak up and start a mini flame war. Lose-lose. It's a very frustrating position to be in, especially because MLP is not terribly far from mainstream acceptance. It could be no big deal, with fans doing their thing, and non-fans generally not caring about one way or the other. We might even look back and laugh about how silly the bruhaha about it was. Instead, it's just this endless clash between fandom and hatedom with the same ol' arguments from 2010. It's very tiresome. I don't want to deal with it, but I'm afraid that if I don't, it'll go uncontested and become the dominant view.
Hydra, you're missing my point.
Again, bringing up that I think it's creepy was not to start a fan-war. It was to point out the reasons some people might find it creepy and to also point out that whining about it and demonizing the people that have an opinion other than liking My Little Pony as a culture/show/whatever isn't going to make things better for you. It was to point out, if someone is having a problem with people making fun of your fandom, get past it, and move on. If you let people bug you about it and complain, you will draw in more hate. I don't care what people are a fan of. If you want to like MLP, cool. If you like Power Puff Girls. Cool. But I understand that other opinions shouldn't make a difference in a person's life if they're just stating it.
Me stating why I think it's creepy wasn't to defend the fact that I dislike the show. I don't even care enough about that show to defend why I dislike it... Probably why I haven't taken part in this thread for so long. I don't tell people IRL that I don't like My Little Pony... But, haters? No matter what someone likes or does there will always be them. And that's a fact. You're setting yourself up for delusion if you think otherwise.
This is why I brought it up:
People always think their interest/personal identifiers/etc are immune to criticism. Reality check: nothing is sacred. I'm not going to defend my reason on why I don't like MLP, because it doesn't matter. Maybe it's irrational why I don't like it, maybe it's not... It makes no difference what I think, and that's my point by bringing it up. Arguing with me that it's ok to feel butthurt about people criticizing what other people like isn't going to fix bronies' problems.
What is going to work better for me if, lets say I like MLP and people make fun of me for it?
A-Try to argue that they're wrong about their opinion/ argue that it was intended for adults too/ argue that it's irrational to dislike my fandom? etc?
or
B-Realize that EVEN IF I convince that person that MLP is ok to like and they all of a sudden like MLP, there will always be an infinite supply of people that don't like that/other things I like and I should just work on myself to not get bothered by it... Because a very large amount of the people that are still hating on the thing I like... will never change their view.
If you think A is your answer, you're lost. Somehow you need to swim back to reality because spoiler alert: there will always be people that dislike something you like. There will always be haters. Grow and change yourself for the better, don't look to change others. It's a losing battle.
Again, to summarize:
-just because you like something, does not make it immune to criticism
-just because someone has an opinion, does not necessarily make them the bad guy.
I didn't talk about this yet, but even if they are being persistent with bashing you for something, thus being the bad guy, you still need to learn how to grow yourself to learn to deal with those situations. Figure out how to remove those toxic people from your life. Adapt, you may like My Little Pony, but you're not one-trick ponies. You have more things up your sleeve than crying "I'm a victim! I'm a vicitm!"
If a subject is on the table, people, by nature want to be included in the conversation. It is important to understand that not all the views are going to mirror your own. It's in your best interest to grow as a person and learn from other people, rather than demonize them all the time in a mad-dash to keep your guard up and get defensive... and aggressive. The only thing being offended does.... is hurt yourself.
That is what I was trying to get across, in not such great words.
I really didn't want to start an argument, but now that it IS an argument, I want to apologize for not communicating clearly so to put an end to the not-argument that I triggered from being a raging fuckhead with words. Because I feel like we're agreeing, just with different words and it isn't coming off like we are agreeing, if that makes sense.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on January 08, 2016, 01:29:29 AMHydra, you're missing my point.
I thought the point was not to get bent out of shape by someone else's opinion and not to blow up on them about it. Did that sum it up right? I said I agreed with that and then tried to explain why bronies get pretty defensive about this topic.
QuoteAgain, bringing up that I think it's creepy was not to start a fan-war. It was to point out the reasons some people might find it creepy and to also point out that whining about it and demonizing the people that have an opinion other than liking My Little Pony as a culture/show/whatever isn't going to make things better for you.
Whoa there. Who said anything about demonizing people who don't like the show? I'd like to think I've been clear so far about this - that it's fine to like or dislike whatever you want and that the only thing I take issue with are the pretty extreme (and extremely inaccurate) depictions of the show/fandom.
QuoteIt was to point out, if someone is having a problem with people making fun of your fandom, get past it, and move on.
If you let people bug you about it and complain, you will draw in more hate. I don't care what people are a fan of. If you want to like MLP, cool. If you like Power Puff Girls. Cool. But I understand that other opinions shouldn't make a difference in a person's life if they're just stating it.
And I largely agree with that. But like I said, I also feel obligated to rebut incorrect assertions.
QuoteI don't tell people IRL that I don't like My Little Pony... But, haters? No matter what someone likes or does there will always be them. And that's a fact. You're setting yourself up for delusion if you think otherwise.
Perhaps hatedom was a poor choice of words. Though the write-up I had in mind (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FanHater) did have some striking similarities with common complaints about MLP (particularly animation age ghetto and girl show ghetto). Not necessarily hateful, just prone to inaccurate stereotypes which often leads to a sort of moral panic in which bronies are seen as creepy deviants rather than relatively normal people who are just a fan of something they're not a fan of.
Please note that the people on this thread so far who have stated that they saw an episode and didn't like the show for whatever reason got along just fine with the bronies here, but the people who came up with some ReeferMadness-esque depiction of bronies got some flak for it.
QuotePeople always think their interest/personal identifiers/etc are immune to criticism. Reality check: nothing is sacred.
No kidding. Again, what gave you the impression that I thought otherwise? In this thread alone, Grinning and I hashed out some of the episodes we hated and some of the Aesops of the show that we thought were reprehensible, especially to children. And in general, I'm pretty hard on just about everything I like. I'm pretty notorious for that, in fact. I'm a little lost on where you got the opposite impression.
QuoteI'm not going to defend my reason on why I don't like MLP, because it doesn't matter. Maybe it's irrational why I don't like it, maybe it's not...
That one particular argument definitely is. All the other ones brought up by others so far (all 3 of them) have been as well. Really, it's the irrationality that irritates me, not the insults.
QuoteIt makes no difference what I think, and that's my point by bringing it up. Arguing with me that it's ok to feel butthurt about people criticizing what other people like isn't going to fix bronies' problems.
Like I said before, I'm not personally offended.
QuoteWhat is going to work better for me if, lets say I like MLP and people make fun of me for it?
A-Try to argue that they're wrong about their opinion/ argue that it was intended for adults too/ argue that it's irrational to dislike my fandom? etc?
Well, if they say that it's for children, I see nothing wrong with pointing out that the show's creator stated that she intended it for adults as well as children. Correcting misapprehensions is a good thing, is it not?
QuoteB-Realize that EVEN IF I convince that person that MLP is ok to like and they all of a sudden like MLP
Getting people to like MLP is not my goal.
Quotethere will always be an infinite supply of people that don't like that/other things I like and I should just work on myself to not get bothered by it...
Agreed.
QuoteBecause a very large amount of the people that are still hating on the thing I like... will never change their view.
I know. I figured that I could talk to people barreling in here, aghast that people like MLP - a show they remember from the 80s as utter crap - and that at least one person would discard that incorrect impression and form a new one in response to new information. Because if you're going to not like something, one should at least not like the actual thing. Is attempting this wrong?
QuoteIf you think A is your answer, you're lost.
GG no re, then.
QuoteAgain, to summarize:
-just because you like something, does not make it immune to criticism
-just because someone has an opinion, does not necessarily make them the bad guy.
Neither position accurately depicts my position. If you're going to disagree with my position, at least argue against my actual position.
QuoteI didn't talk about this yet, but even if they are being persistent with bashing you for something, thus being the bad guy, you still need to learn how to grow yourself to learn to deal with those situations. Figure out how to remove those toxic people from your life. Adapt, you may like My Little Pony, but you're not one-trick ponies. You have more things up your sleeve than crying "I'm a victim! I'm a vicitm!"
Please tell me we're talking in general terms and not specifically about me. Because if that's about me, that'd be the most wrong of all the wrong things I've seen tonight. I simply post a rebuttal and move on. Generally, the argument's resolved in a couple replies and we're talking about something else. (though the accusation does tend to be presented anew by somebody else a few pages later as if it had never been discussed before) Hardly dwelling on it, and definitely not playing the victim.
AAAANNNDDD THIS is why I stay out places like this...er......bye.
I vote for closing this thread.
Heh, sorry to make you guys so uncomfortable. I'll wait on PickledEggs's reply and I plan on either finding common ground or agreeing to disagree. Then it's back to your regularly scheduled program.
No problems, I am not uncomfortable. I just swing in to see how much weirder it gets :)~
I have nothing to add, so I shall say nothing eh?
Quote from: Hydra009 on January 08, 2016, 03:35:59 AM
I thought the point was not to get bent out of shape by someone else's opinion and not to blow up on them about it. Did that sum it up right?
Yes.
QuoteI said I agreed with that and then tried to explain why bronies get pretty defensive about this topic.
I already understand why bronies get defensive about it.
QuoteWhoa there. Who said anything about demonizing people who don't like the show? I'd like to think I've been clear so far about this - that it's fine to like or dislike whatever you want and that the only thing I take issue with are the pretty extreme (and extremely inaccurate) depictions of the show/fandom.
And I largely agree with that.
Like I said before in my previous post, there must be a lot of miscommunication on both our parts and I must have misinterpreted you abou that, then
QuoteBut like I said, I also feel obligated to rebut incorrect assertions.
I don't agree with going about it like that... I feel like it's a losing battle because no matter what because there will always be someone that is immovable with their view and assertions, but if you want to that's your choice. And that's part of my point; do what you want/like what you want.
QuotePerhaps hatedom was a poor choice of words. Though the write-up I had in mind (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FanHater) did have some striking similarities with common complaints about MLP (particularly animation age ghetto and girl show ghetto). Not necessarily hateful, just prone to inaccurate stereotypes which often leads to a sort of moral panic in which bronies are seen as creepy deviants rather than relatively normal people who are just a fan of something they're not a fan of.
Maybe it is a poor choice of words, I don't think so though. There are people that truly despise that and other cultures, like you are also saying. I'm obviously not one of those, but you already seem like you know that.
QuotePlease note that the people on this thread so far who have stated that they saw an episode and didn't like the show for whatever reason got along just fine with the bronies here, but the people who came up with some ReeferMadness-esque depiction of bronies got some flak for it.
Yes. I realize that. But I also realize that there are people that have those exact reasons, ridiculous reasons, for not liking bronies and MLP as a whole... as well as other fandoms and things... and I kind of understand where they get that false assumption from.
QuoteNo kidding. Again, what gave you the impression that I thought otherwise? In this thread alone, Grinning and I hashed out some of the episodes we hated and some of the Aesops of the show that we thought were reprehensible, especially to children. And in general, I'm pretty hard on just about everything I like. I'm pretty notorious for that, in fact. I'm a little lost on where you got the opposite impression.Quote
I actually got that impression, which is why I felt like something I was saying wasn't coming out right and we were in-fact agreeing. That something was being missed or not said clearly.
QuoteThat one particular argument definitely is. All the other ones brought up by others so far (all 3 of them) have been as well. Really, it's the irrationality that irritates me, not the insults.
A lot of reasons for disliking things are irrational. I dislike country music. I don't know why. I just don't. No matter how hard I try, I cannot force myself to like it. It just urks me. Same thing with other people with fandoms and other things.
QuoteLike I said before, I'm not personally offended.
Yes. I know. Like I'm saying in this post, there has been a lot of miscommunication with both parties. I guess it's misleading for people if someone else defends someone's interests because they think it would be offensive to the other person, it gives the impression that the person jumping in to defend is also offended.
QuoteWell, if they say that it's for children, I see nothing wrong with pointing out that the show's creator stated that she intended it for adults as well as children.
I agree.
QuoteCorrecting misapprehensions is a good thing, is it not?
It depends, IMO.
QuoteGetting people to like MLP is not my goal.
Yes, I know.
QuoteI know. I figured that I could talk to people barreling in here, aghast that people like MLP - a show they remember from the 80s as utter crap - and that at least one person would discard that incorrect impression and form a new one in response to new information. Because if you're going to not like something, one should at least not like the actual thing. Is attempting this wrong?
I actually don't know... I personally agree. If someone is going to dislike something, they should dislike the actual thing. I've never even watched the old MLP, so the only thing I dislike is the new one. I do that with most things in my life... Movies, shows, people, music, etc. And I would hope other people would give something or someone a chance before they decide they like or dislike it
... but everyone is not us. Some people just like to hate. And I'm not defending it, but I do realize that it happens and more times than not, it's a hopeless cause to try to get people to see the real thing before jumping in to judgment. A lot of times, it does cause an adverse reaction and the person is so irrational that they become even more against it.
It definitely depends on who you're dealing with.
Short, related side-track example. My mom and I were talking and somehow the subject of GMOs came up. (she is anti-gmo/pro organic) I mentioned that the anti-gmo movement is based on a lot of misinformation. Before I could say anything else, she started getting upset and angry because she somehow assumed that because I think people that believe the anti-gmo movement is misinformed, SHE is "all-around gullible and stupid" Her exact words.
Some people are flat out irrational and there's nothing you or I can do to change that. And to go further, trying to clear up even the simplest of things with an irrational person can result in more harm than good. For instance, now with my mom, she is even deeper in to the anti-gmo movement than before I mentioned that it's based on a lot of misinformation.
QuoteNeither position accurately depicts my position. If you're going to disagree with my position, at least argue against my actual position.
My recent first post, a page back, this was what was trying to say. I was not trying to argue with you, just trying to get back on track to what I was attempting at saying... which I guess was off topic. Especially the way I said it. I was actually confused why you were arguing with me about something I felt wasn't what I was talking about, but I think that has to do with how I worded my first post a page back, it was worded poorly and I guess it gave the impression I was saying something I was not trying to.
QuotePlease tell me we're talking in general terms and not specifically about me. Because if that's about me, that'd be the most wrong of all the wrong things I've seen tonight. I simply post a rebuttal and move on. Generally, the argument's resolved in a couple replies and we're talking about something else. (though the accusation does tend to be presented anew by somebody else a few pages later as if it had never been discussed before) Hardly dwelling on it, and definitely not playing the victim.
Yes. In general terms entirely. I don't think I've ever seen you play the "victim" card ever really. Sorry if it came off that way, if it seemed like I was addressing someone personally. I wasn't really addressing anyone in here personally.
So basically, I do think we agree on most things...
I hear ya. And looking back, I think I have been reacting too defensively and taking pretty inflammatory assertions far too seriously, thereby exacerbating the problem. Most people have been pretty understanding, even if it isn't their thing, and I shouldn't sweat the odd person who genuinely believes heinous stuff about people who just watch a TV show. Trying to confront people like that, especially in my admittedly abrasive way, does more harm than good. As in your example with your mom, it just upsets people and sets the whole discussion into mutual antagonism.
Also, I've been acting like someone talking smack online is some threat to be countered - that everyone would just believe it if I let it go uncontested, that it'd somehow be the deathknell of the fandom. I overestimated their persuasiveness and underestimated the audience's intelligence. Sorry about that, too.
In short, this (https://girlignited.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/seriousdontyouknow0lw.jpg) has been me lately and I need to not be that way.
I can certainly see why bronies would be so defensive and why they would take exception to how people perceive them, but if a comparison is fair, the comparison is fair. If you like MLP porn, does that mean you're into bestiality? Certainly not! But is the comparison to bestiality fair? It's not only fair, it's natural. Is a drawing of a fictional 16 year old girl dressed provocatively the same as a picture of a 16 year old girl dressed that same way? No, and I certainly don't feel the same way about those two things. But is the comparison of the two fair? Absolutely. Both are depictions of the same thing, one is just fantasy.
So if it's being said you are into bestiality because you like MLP porn, that is definitely something I would straighten out. But to compare it to bestiality, that is fair and natural, so long as the person doesn't make the leap to accusations of socially untollerated fetishes.
But the reality is, I don't really know why I find it creepy. I just do. I can argue and try to explain it or clarify my position all day long, but I would bet it would take at least a few weeks of deep thought on the issue to even understand myself the various nuances of what, exactly, it is about it that I find creepy. I definitely find the porn creepy. I also find merchandise collecting creepy. Why? I just do. To walk into a 30 year old man's room and see a MLP lamp by his bed and some dolls on the shelf, I find that creepy. Does that mean that man is a creepy man? No. That man is, in fact, my very good friend. I am not creeped out by him. I am creeped out by his obsession. I don't know why. I don't care to know why. I don't see myself as having a problem that needs fixing. Neither do I see him as having a problem that needs fixing. I'm comfortable with the creepy bastard and he's comfortable with me being creeped out. So really, there isn't a problem which needs fixing as far as I can see.
Quote from: Hydra009 on January 08, 2016, 02:32:28 PM
In short, this (https://girlignited.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/seriousdontyouknow0lw.jpg) has been me lately and I need to not be that way.
Yeah. That was me for a good while lol. At one point it was so bad, I realized I missed my old self, the person that doesn't get offended by stupid things and I just snapped right back in to place, as if I had an ache in my hands and I cracked my knuckles.
I kind of like your abrasive/blunt way though... straight to the point. I try to do that most of the time, but my grasp of the english language isn't what it should be.
In fact, I actually favor someone when they're extra blunt with they're words. My best friend always apologizes for when I ask him for advice and he thinks he's too harsh, but I specifically ask him because how to-the-point he is. Probably why I regard him as my friend in the first place.
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Personally I don't really give a shit what people watch. Considering I've seen shit like peach from the mario franchise with dick rings. Yeah, I'm not in the position to judge people over watching stupid shit, only thing I've seen that's dumb enough for me to be judgmental is when people believe in supernatural bullshit, that's where I draw the line personally, even then I don't really care as long as they don't hurt anyone.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on January 08, 2016, 03:55:39 PM
In fact, I actually favor someone when they're extra blunt with they're words.
Reading that I felt like the female vampire in the bar ( a scene from Queen of the Damned) asking the human protagonist "Is that an offer?", her mouth open, fangs hanging out in blood lust. :ppp
Seriously, though I don't know you very well and probably we don't agree about a lot of things, but I always thought you are one of the most naturally decent people I have ever met. I actually think you need to be corrupted by a healthy dose for your own good.
I havent caught up since the start of S5 but it seems the fandom is still going strong.
Also Starlight glimmer is hawt.
that is all
Starlight glimmers a .. what, 14 year old?
Anyway, she was fun as an antagonist, seriously this scene cracked me up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ8rP-d64dw
But as a good guy, dunno, it felt like they just made her as a 'what sunset shimmer would have been like'. And honestly I find sunset a lot more interesting as a reformed bad guy.
she's in her 20's roughly, they all get downgraded to high school level in EG. (come on they all have their own homes and jobs, what high schoolers have that. Dash has like a fucking mansion)
besides
if thats 15, they dont make them like they did when i was in school
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on March 07, 2017, 07:45:40 PM
she's in her 20's roughly, they all get downgraded to high school level in EG. (come on they all have their own homes and jobs, what high schoolers have that. Dash has like a fucking mansion)
besides
if thats 15, they dont make them like they did when i was in school
yeah that always seemed a weird twist to have them grown adults in one universe but young teens in another. And how does that work for twilight when she jumps between worlds?
Anyway, somethings thats always gonna bother me is the presentation of men in this show. I know its meant to be a show for a young female audience, but I've never liked the excuse that because its aimed at girls that men should be given a negative or lackluster role, little girls have fathers to they need to look up to.
male characters with a strong level of masculinity are relegated to being either extremely evil or antagonistic (Sombra, Tirak, Iron will), being incredibly stupid or damselish (Bulk Bicep, Shining Armor) or just having little to no characterization from a few lines (Big Mac).
Now its had a lot of one shot male characters showing a variety, and of course you have ones like discord, whos still the best character on the show, but outside of him, all the other main stay male characters are just lacking in character or presentation.
https://goodmenproject.com/all-things-geek/a-lack-of-equality-in-equestria-representations-of-masculinity-in-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-xela/
I think of how they wrote Greg in steven universe, who is probably my favorite cartoon dads, how he's kind, funny, a slacker, but when things get serious he pulls out everything he can to help his son, to me he's one of the best human characters in steven universe for this reason, and the writers didn't need to compromise his masculinity, for the sake of making the female leads stronger.
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I can overlook it most of the time, but every time I see big mac on screen saying 'yup' and nothing else, I find myself comparing mlp to SU or Star vs the forces of evil.
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It's a legitimate grievance, the only real male influence is discord and we all know him
Quote from: Munch on March 07, 2017, 08:01:52 PMyeah that always seemed a weird twist to have them grown adults in one universe but young teens in another. And how does that work for twilight when she jumps between worlds?
My headcanon is that Equestria Girls is pony-created fiction. Think about it: humans having technicolor skin makes no sense from a human perspective, but makes perfect sense from the perspective of a technicolor pony imagining a human world.
Quotemale characters with a strong level of masculinity are relegated to being either extremely evil or antagonistic (Sombra, Tirak, Iron will), being incredibly stupid or damselish (Bulk Bicep, Shining Armor) or just having little to no characterization from a few lines (Big Mac).
Now its had a lot of one shot male characters showing a variety, and of course you have ones like discord, whos still the best character on the show, but outside of him, all the other main stay male characters are just lacking in character or presentation.
Yeah, that bugs me, too. Though I haven't seen the latest episodes, so they might've corrected that flaw and I just don't know about it yet. Hopefully, someday either the main show or spinoff will be properly co-ed.
I've seen up to the latest series, I'd say the most recently developed male character on the show was thorax, who was a limp noodle until the power of loooove saved him and everyone else.
Really though discord was once again best character in it.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on October 25, 2014, 11:47:27 PM
I don't like the sun. I go outside when it's dark out.
Apparently, God likes the darkness, too!
1 Kings 8:12
QuoteThen spake Solomon, The LORD said that he would dwell in the thick darkness.
2 Chronicles 6:1
QuoteThen said Solomon, The LORD said that he would dwell in the thick darkness.
Psalm 18:11
QuoteHe made darkness his secret place; his pavillion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.
Psalm 97:2
QuoteClouds and darkness are round about him: righteousness and judgement are the habitation of his throne.
Deities are into "smoke and mirrors" much like the Wizard of Oz.
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Quote from: GrinningYMIR on March 14, 2017, 11:51:17 AM
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You know you are old when people refer to a fad you didn't even know existed...
Been a while since this was used, but, seemed a time to do so, and rather then making a new thread. I'm subscribed to Mad Munchkin, love her videos and this one cropped up. I have sometimes watched the 'Bronies react' videos, since I liked the kind of humor and cynicism that goes into the reviews, I don't know its community that well but have subscribed to some of their channels since they do other stuff besides my little pony reviews and react videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVhO0yyWzfw&t=2s
I've never even heard of the guy their talking about before, but certain he's probably cropped up in one of their collaboration reviews. Even though I only occasionally look whats happening with this niche community, its still disturbing, and questionable about what happened with this one.
To sum up, a bronie by the name of Toonkritic, who many of the most popular bronie community members was a friend to, confessed on a live feed not long ago to having been sexually grooming a 10 year old child over skype for a while now. The news broke, and from all sounds of it they arrested the guy. Many of them made videos about this, some trying to soft tone the events, some speaking about their feelings on the matter, some not saying anything at all but dealing with it since it was a friend to them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIq6U0XZK3M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y2EG2wAAFo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWmpdqQPWHM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ_zXfoBM2s
However, in contrast, someone directed to this youtuber, who is someone I use to be subscribed to. I unsubbed from them because tbh, they became a little far to over opinionated and brutal in what they said about just about everything, and had this to say on the matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHp76fMdEXo
pretty much the only one in this group who just went balls to the wall ripping the guy a new one, and also some alarming 'truths' about, how genuine it is, thats up for debate, but it does paint this section of the mlp fandom in a pretty bad way if stuff like this happens and nothing gets done about it.
I know we've got a couple mlp fans on the forums here and just wanted to get your thoughts on this here, though it does extend to more then just this fandom, such as people willing to remain silent about these things, out of fear of ridicule maybe, fear of being thought of as part of the problem?
Quote from: Munch on January 29, 2018, 06:54:43 PMI know we've got a couple mlp fans on the forums here and just wanted to get your thoughts on this here
I kinda dropped off the radar a couple of years ago. I still enjoy some drawfriend threads, but that's about it. No idea who this guy is but it sounds pretty messed up.
Quote from: Hydra009 on January 29, 2018, 07:55:08 PM
I kinda dropped off the radar a couple of years ago. I still enjoy some drawfriend threads, but that's about it. No idea who this guy is but it sounds pretty messed up.
yeah. on the one hand I can sort of understand where some of them are coming from, he was their friend and as far as they knew he was just eccentric. He'd been lying to there faces for years now, and it was heartbreaking for them to deal with the reality of his decent.
That said, lily peet, who can be so massively aggressive on issues, was right on many points, begging the question how long did they know about it, did they only reveal this now because the 10 year old girl reported it and they wanted to keep this from being made public? Was this something that all came out now to many of them?
I still enjoy the series and fandom and rainbow dash but Im not as active as was a couple years ago. I miss it but I find it to be odd kinda, I'm sad to see it come to this. Very sad indeed.
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Holy shit, long time since I saw this thread.
@Munch I'm not a brony, and i'm not going to delve deeper into this matter.
I just want to say that sadly, not outing these things happens everywhere. People fear how The actions of The individual will reflect on them and on the group and thus tend to hide it. Clergy, teachers (sadly, i know of an instance), politicians, scouts, even charity organizations and relatives.
Of course, it being very human doesn't make it allright and i too am abhorred.
All that being said, while not a brony, i don't think i'll hold this against The community as a whole. I know that there is prejudice against them regarding The idea that that community is filled to The brim with sexually repressed man-child pedophiles. But if that were The case i think we'd hear more stories like these. You just find pedo's everywhere. Heck, in my extended organisation we have over 1000 people. Creepy as the thought might be, there is, i think, a decent chance at least one or two must work here. If it turned out to be someone on my team, i don't know how i'd react. I'd hope i'd wouldn't try to downplay it though.
Bronies, ponies, got it finally!
All good things must come to an end.
MLP:FIM we will miss you
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on February 20, 2019, 09:15:23 PM
All good things must come to an end.
MLP:FIM we will miss you
Better that it ends well then lingers and becomes stale
I'm sure the fans will keep having bronie cons for several years following its end
I mean 9 seasons is a dam long time for any animated show, one of my fav cartoons, justice league unlimited, only lasted 5 seasons, and I still rewatch it today.
All you furries could advance to "Princess Princess" level ;-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiFo3kNiMUY
Quote from: Baruch on February 20, 2019, 11:45:34 PM
All you furries could advance to "Princess Princess" level ;-)
Some furries take offense being put in the same category as bronies and visa versa.
Quote from: Munch on February 21, 2019, 05:22:33 AM
Some furries take offense being put in the same category as bronies and visa versa.
I guess they will just have to 'tune that out ;-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMp42cTmzuM