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Started by Fidel_Castronaut, February 14, 2013, 05:43:21 PM

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Hydra009

Quote from: trdsf on March 22, 2020, 08:01:21 PMLife fits the laws that exist, and if the laws were otherwise, then life would be different.  Or impossible.
And of course, any universes without life tend to not have anyone around to wonder about it.

Imagine playing blackjack and automatically folding if your starting hand is less than 20.  Then remarking at the "miracle" that your current hand is a pair of kings.  What are the odds!

Gregory


Gregory


Baruch

Quote from: Gregory on April 02, 2020, 02:30:48 PM
God is not the answer.

Ah, but what is the question? - Deep Thought
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Gregory

The question is irrelevant, for the answer is always FOO WASN'T HERE.

Baruch

Quote from: Gregory on April 02, 2020, 03:26:08 PM
The question is irrelevant, for the answer is always FOO WASN'T HERE.

No, the answer is always "42".
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Mike Cl

Quote from: Baruch on April 02, 2020, 07:41:20 PM
No, the answer is always "42".
Jackie Robinson would be pleased
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Paolo

Quote from: Hydra009 on March 22, 2020, 08:43:12 PM
And of course, any universes without life tend to not have anyone around to wonder about it.

Imagine playing blackjack and automatically folding if your starting hand is less than 20.  Then remarking at the "miracle" that your current hand is a pair of kings.  What are the odds!

Is this atheistic or theistic? I can't even tell at this point.
Oh noes...I think I’m dead....

Baruch

Just an observation on method. Using obvious truths that anyone can check, is empirically or mathematically reliable.  Arguing over the details of the Big Bang is not.  The deeper aspects of math, won't be intelligible to most people.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Unbeliever

The deeper aspects of math won't even be intelligible to most mathematicians.
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Hydra009

Quote from: Paolo on May 08, 2020, 04:46:59 AM
Is this atheistic or theistic? I can't even tell at this point.
The scare quotes around "miracle" are a bit of a tell

Baruch

#851
Quote from: Unbeliever on May 09, 2020, 02:22:06 PM
The deeper aspects of math won't even be intelligible to most mathematicians.

Shh ... the AMA (American Mathematical Association) will excommunicate you if they hear you said this! ;-)

https://www.earthlymission.com/the-mathematics-trench/

Notice Cthulhu is at the bottom!
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

#852
Quote from: Hydra009 on May 09, 2020, 04:04:37 PM
The scare quotes around "miracle" are a bit of a tell

Real priests gamble with loaded dice.  Snake eyes every time! ;-)

G-d plays with loaded dice - contrary to Einstein ... which pretty much nullifies all the pseudo-intellectual basis for atheism
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

OrangeDon

Evidence?  You mean -- sunsets, flowers, and babies being born isn't enough?  :D

Mike Cl

Quote from: OrangeDon on April 13, 2021, 01:11:53 PM
Evidence?  You mean -- sunsets, flowers, and babies being born isn't enough?  :D
Don, one of my minor hobbies is doing Jesus research.  I have a degree in history and taught it for 38ish years and so I tend to like most history topics.  Anyway, I have done enough studying to convince myself that Jesus did not actually exist and that he is a mashup of many different avatars of that time period.  What ended up being the final compelling element of the 'history' of Jesus is that not a single writer wrote about the guy during his proposed lifespan.  If Jesus existed Philo would have wrote about him!  BTW, Richard Carrier is one of my favorite writers on the subject.  Anyway, Don, what are your thoughts on that subject?
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?