Started by Fidel_Castronaut, February 14, 2013, 05:43:21 PM
Quote from: irontiger on July 22, 2021, 11:12:05 PMHowever, whatever exist that is beyond our capabilities to sense and perceive will exist.
Quote from: irontiger on July 22, 2021, 11:12:05 PMThis is quite amusing. In order to confirm existence an atheist first wants evidence. However, whatever exist that is beyond our capabilities to sense and perceive will exist. Therefore without evidence it can not be confirmed what does exist does not exist
QuoteHow did you confirm this ?
Quote from: irontiger on July 23, 2021, 05:41:50 PMThen he is not omnipotent,How did you confirm this ?
Quote from: SGOS on July 29, 2021, 08:13:28 AMIt's odd that chariots play such a big role in Christianity, or maybe I've seen too many Cecil B. DiMille movies when I was little. I suppose chariots back then were like Corvettes and Porshes. When Jesus returns, I doubt that he will come back in a Ford Focus. He will most likely arrive at the stadium in a limo, escorted by body guards as he makes his way to the speakers platform where he will make an urgent plea for donations.
Quote from: Hydra009 on August 06, 2021, 08:39:23 PMhttps://v.redd.it/7vhayb0oynf71Well, I'm convinced.
Quote from: Blackleaf on August 06, 2021, 09:59:24 PMThis...has to be a joke.
Quote from: LinuxGal on January 02, 2023, 09:44:47 AMWINDOWSGUY: Things that are verified exist. Things that are not verified, but are at least verifiable in principle, may exist. Things that are not verified may not exist. Things that are not verifiable, even in principle, can not exist. Do you accept those premises?LINUXGAL: I do, Senciner, but only provisionally.WINDOWSGUY: The afterlife is consciousness after death. Consciousness is exclusively self-verifiable. No one else can verify your consciousness and you cannot verify anyone else's consciousness. Provisionally, therefore we can say that the afterlife may exist, because it is verifiable in principle by the person who is conscious of it, if in fact it exists.LINUXGAL: Good.WINDOWSGUY: But if the afterlife does not exist, this is not verifiable, even in principle, because consciousness is required to make any verification. Now: since the truth value of the proposition 'no afterlife exists' is not verifiable, even in principle, and the negation 'the afterlife exists' is at least not excluded, then the afterlife must exist, by the following rule: if not non-A then A.LINUXGAL: Your logic can be used to prove anything. For instance, Our Lady is defined as an Invisible Pink Unicorn in the sky who is verifiable in principle by whoever goes to Her post-mortem.WINDOWSGUY: But She is also verifiable publicly by other people who go to Her, while consciousness is only privately verifiable.LINUXGAL: The IPU is not publicly verifiable by any of our senses. She can only be seen while outside of a living body. .WINDOWSGUY: No! She must have been seen by a living person, specifically, that person who first stated that She is pink.