Started by Vercingetorix, March 23, 2014, 01:59:47 PM
QuoteAll this is merely why I'm Catholic, i.e. my geography, parent (not "parents" in the plural form) and my inability to find truth comparable to that which I find in Catholicism in any other religion.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on March 24, 2014, 04:04:44 AMSometimes I wonder if people that believe in the Catholic Church or any religion has ever looked around in the world they live in with a fresh eye. Tell me, op. Have you ever doubted your faith? What is that like? It's been such a long time that I forgot what it's like to question an idea I was so invested in and I have forgotten. Sent from Planet X
Quote from: Vercingetorix on March 24, 2014, 04:14:09 AM I'm a member (however briefly is yet to be determined) of an atheist forum! I have doubted my faith much more than I am brave enough to admit. I must admit that it is scary, what I am most afraid of is missing my faith, should I lose it.
Quote from: Plu on March 24, 2014, 04:11:25 AMAt least you're willing to admit that you only believe it because you were indoctrinated. Now you'll only have to accept that this means all the "proof" you heard is worthless because you haven't verified it and leave us alone, and everyone will be happier.Also, I took 5 minutes a while ago to look into the story about the earth rotating around the sun and learned that it's actually not the case. But since you don't care about learning things apparently, I'm not going to explain further.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on March 24, 2014, 04:17:55 AMIt's it really that hard to not doubt your faith? I was born and raised in NJ, so there really isn't many people that are hard core believers like in other parts of the country. What makes you doubt your beliefs? Sent from Planet X
Quote from: Plu on March 24, 2014, 04:32:46 AMObject revolve around a common center of gravity, and any notions of "X orbits Y" are man-made, objects simply rotate around each other. Due to the massive size of the sun compared to tiny little earth, the common center of gravity is somewhere inside of the sun, so it's almost like the earth rotates the sun, but that kind of explanation wouldn't work when you're dealing with two objects of almost the same size rotating each other. (Like binary stars)Also the whole idea that the earth rotates around the sun is just because the solar system is easier to understand and draw if you put the sun at the center of it. There's also a model where the earth is back at the center, designed in the 16th century:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tychonic_systemFor observations of the solar system, it works as well as the one we use today. Only when you get to really distant stars does it start breaking down, but they didn't know about those back then.That's about as much as I can share without having to look things up myself. It was more to point out that just because you're told something when you're young doesn't mean it's correct or that you can't learn more about those very subjects if you look at them with adult eyes than useful knowledge.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on March 24, 2014, 04:38:11 AMSo what are your feelings on your god? Is he necessary? Why? Or why not? (depending on your answer) Sent from Planet X
QuoteI believe that God is necessary based on tradition