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Uvalde School Shooting

Started by Blackleaf, May 27, 2022, 03:42:18 AM

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drunkenshoe

I don't understand why the word 'hero' is being used in this context to begin with. Trying to eliminate the danger is their job. A 'hero' would be someone, who goes out of their way and risk their life to do something when it is not their duty. They could have come together and try to do something together. It looks like they didn't even try.     
"I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are good people and bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides." Havelock Vetinari

Blackleaf

#16
Quote from: drunkenshoe on May 31, 2022, 12:40:52 PMI don't understand why the word 'hero' is being used in this context to begin with. Trying to eliminate the danger is their job. A 'hero' would be someone, who goes out of their way and risk their life to do something when it is not their duty. They could have come together and try to do something together. It looks like they didn't even try.     

They had the guy outnumbered. They had bulletproof vests. He was one untrained teenager who had barely even held a gun before this. Granted, it was still dangerous, but imagine how different the conversation would have been if they had acted quickly to stop the shooter. They would have been praised for their bravery. The community would have thanked them for saving the lives of their children and teachers. If any had been injured, they would have been seen as heroes. Instead, they chose to wait, and everything they did do only cost the lives of more children. They could have been the heroes, but now they're the villains, practically accomplices to the shooter. Nobody is relieved that the cops left with only minor injuries.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville

Gawdzilla Sama

I've been in a few places where the bad guys have the guns and the police have night sticks. I didn't feel safer there.
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Blackleaf

"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville

Mike Cl

I remember hearing something like---a society that does not protect its children has no future.  Don't know who said it.  But if that has any truth to it, we are beyond a failed society!
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Blackleaf



I keep seeing people posting that the Supreme Court ruled that the cops do not have a duty to protect people. Not to make excuses for the police, but to explain why they were so reluctant to help. "To protect and serve" is a slogan, not legally binding. People need to wake up and realize they're not here to serve us, and the money that is wasted on the blue mafia would be better spent on social services that would actually help people.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville

Shiranu

Yep, a few cases of both State and the Court Supreme have agreed they don't have any obligation to protect... and some of the cases are about as fucked up as what happened here.

Which leaves an unanswered question of... well, what is their job, legally, then and why should my tax money go to something that does not provide me or my community with a service unless they feel gracious enough to bless us with their presence, which 4/5th of the time is just to harass you...
Every day is a good day to *remove from server* an autocrat.

Hydra009



Police chief didn't know he was in charge.  Maybe he shouldn't be in charge, then.


Hydra009



I'm no mathematician, but I'm pretty sure that 100 is a lot less short than 10. 

Also, somehow I doubt I'll see the "life is short" guy go skydiving or wear a wingsuit.  In fact, I think he'll take advantage of government-subsidized healthcare to extend his life as much as possible.  And utterly unwilling to even feebly try to extend the lives of others.

the_antithesis

How do assholes keep getting into office?

Shiranu

He is also under FBI investigation for corruption and has a lot of allegations around him - Texan politicians don't win on votes outside of like Republicans in Lubbock or Independents in San Antonio, they win purely based on how much money (a lot of it being foreign money from the DNC and GOP) they spend - and fuck me, are Texas elections expensive - $294 million dollars spent, only $100,000 less than Illinois spent and nearly $800,000 less than California spent.

I don't even know Republicans who like him, at most they vote for him because he has an R next to his name... but even most Republicans I know think he is scum.
Every day is a good day to *remove from server* an autocrat.

drunkenshoe

#27
I don't know. Expecting empathy, common sense, reason... obviously is the wrong way to go. Wouldn't it be awesome, if one of the parents of the victims put one of these carbon wasters in hospital and get away with temporary insanity due grief? Life, you know... It's not just short, things like that happen all the time. There are 206 bones in human body, and they are all breakable. Must be god's plan. I'm just musing. Gawd, look at that cunt's face.


"I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are good people and bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides." Havelock Vetinari

Mermaid

Quote from: Hydra009 on June 16, 2022, 01:02:17 PM

I have no fucking words for this. This is the grossest thing I've read in a really long time.
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

Hydra009

Quote from: Mermaid on June 18, 2022, 07:59:29 PMI have no fucking words for this. This is the grossest thing I've read in a really long time.
You probably haven't seen the one where a right-winger drew a pic of those kids in heaven playing together and everything is great and they say that life is rough but trust in Jesus and pwetty pwease don't ban guns.