Trump Versus Biden

[Draconic Aiur]

His facial shape indeed reveals how closely chimps and humans are related.

I wondered why he looked so familiar and basically lol's when I remembered this shape from a video of darkmatter2525.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLhkPTQvMzQ&list=PL71922DE34C9673BD&index=11&t=314s

[Hydra009]

When you're right, you're right:  Trump calls relief bill a "disgrace" and payout "ridiculously low"

Trump said the bill was a "disgrace" and called the $600 payments to individuals in the current bill "ridiculously low." He said he wants that boosted to $2,000 per individual and $4,000 for couples â€" despite the fact that it was Republicans who stood in the way of higher payments for months.

To my shock, I completely agree with this.  Waiting for the other shoe to drop...

Trump blasted money appropriated for foreign aid, environmental programs and cultural institutions, calling them "wasteful."

There it is.  Well, it was good while it lasted.

Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina responded on Twitter, calling the relief bill "imperfect," but that it "will save jobs and lives. The sooner the bill becomes law - the better."

Technically, this is correct, but it also completely misses the point.  For Christmas, Americans are being evicted.  They need serious and substantive help, not a paltry one-time barely-helping sum from Congressmen who made fortunes in insider trading, lied about the virus for months, and then were among the first to get the vaccine.

[SGOS]

Ideally, any bill to address a problem should address the problem, but bills get sidetracked all the time with money for various pet projects that are unrelated to the name on the Bill.  This helps congress hide some of the things it doesn't want you to know, and it is not ideal.  But there is nothing ideal about our political system.  This is the way things are done.  At the risk of using a vulgar term in a public forum, it is called "compromise," although "monkey business" would also be entirely appropriate.   But $600 dollars given out twice a year to people losing their jobs and homes, is somewhat of an insult.  That aspect of the bill does not change with or without the rest of the congressional shenanigans involved.  It may enable people to live on the street a little more comfortably for a few weeks, but they are still sleeping under bridges and in doorways.

[Baruch]

Maybe the relief bill was just increased to $2000 per worker.  Don't know the details.  All the pork is probably still in it.

"The Top 'Owners' Of America's President-Elect Joe Biden" ... same old same old ... "So, that will be no basic change. America will remain an aristocracy, no democracy..." ... get ready to be sheered next year.

[SGOS]

When you're right, you're right:  Trump calls relief bill a "disgrace" and payout "ridiculously low"
To my shock, I completely agree with this.  Waiting for the other shoe to drop...
There it is.  Well, it was good while it lasted.
Technically, this is correct, but it also completely misses the point.  For Christmas, Americans are being evicted.  They need serious and substantive help, not a paltry one-time barely-helping sum from Congressmen who made fortunes in insider trading, lied about the virus for months, and then were among the first to get the vaccine.

I remember after Trump promised to get rid of Obamacare, he said they were "...going to replace it with much better insurance that would be just wonderful.  You'll be surprised.  It's going to be a wonderfully wonderful insurance, just wonderful."  I heard him say that on the radio, and while its from memory, you can probably hear him saying it the way he says everything he does is "just wonderful."

Then of course, they couldn't get rid of Obamacare, but they got rid of parts of it, and no effort was made to improve it, let alone replace it with something better.  So I wouldn't get to excited about people getting $2000/monthly checks in the mail anytime soon.  Remember that wonderful Casino that went bankrupt, even though he had to cut all kinds of corners on what he promised backers?  Don't get excited about anything he says.

[Hydra009]

Even now, he still doesn't have a healthcare plan.  I'm well aware that his words carry little weight and much like his grip on power, fading fast.  Still, I take comfort - small as it may be - that Moscow Grinch et al are getting flak from both the Dems and the Trump fanclub.

[Baruch]

Even now, he still doesn't have a healthcare plan.  I'm well aware that his words carry little weight and much like his grip on power, fading fast.  Still, I take comfort - small as it may be - that Moscow Grinch et al are getting flak from both the Dems and the Trump fanclub.

Utopia, heaven on earth, arrives soon, free everything for everyone, your lord and savior Karl Marx has promised this ;-)

Obama didn't write ACA, the Dems in Congress did.  Basically to enslave Americans to the health insurance industry, that was going bankrupt.

[GSOgymrat]

Even now, he still doesn't have a healthcare plan.  I'm well aware that his words carry little weight and much like his grip on power, fading fast.  Still, I take comfort - small as it may be - that Moscow Grinch et al are getting flak from both the Dems and the Trump fanclub.

I don't think the Republicans ever really planned to pass a new healthcare plan. Because healthcare was a major part of the Democrat's platform, they had to attack it, spin it as socialism, and say they could provide a "wonderful" alternative healthcare plan. ACA being called Obamacare didn't help. I suspect Trump actually protected Americans from the worst of the plans the Republicans had for healthcare. The golden ticket for insurance companies and their investors is to exclude people with pre-existing medical conditions. People struggling with very complicated medical needs, called "super-users", are 5 percent of patients but account for about half of the country’s health-care spending. The goal of an insurance company is to make money and no company wants these customers. As a populist candidate, Trump knew that lower and middle-class Americans who have health insurance are afraid of losing it and he repeatedly said he wouldn't accept any legislation that allowed insurance companies to refuse coverage to people with pre-existing conditions. As Trump learned, healthcare is "complicated" and it isn't simple and sexy like a border wall. The Republicans had to make other changes where they could.

As demonstrated by Trump threatening to veto the stimulus bill, Trump has no problem putting his own needs ahead of his party's.

[Hydra009]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4B97Fmrjjo

"More votes than any other President in history!"
It's almost as if America has a larger population now than it did in the past.  Weird, ain't it?

[drunkenshoe]

Hell has frozen over.

https://youtu.be/SqmPrrdqa4I

He doesn't have any real soical media account he lives in, that he experiences events around him through it, does he? I mean may be only as commercial mediums managed by people 50 years younger than him? Because that's one explanation I can think of.

(The excess make up and the light made me thought somebody was wearing a mask in this is a some parody of the sort for a moment.)

[SGOS]

I don't think the Republicans ever really planned to pass a new healthcare plan. Because healthcare was a major part of the Democrat's platform, they had to attack it, spin it as socialism,

the ACA was basically introduced by Republicans during the Clinton Administration, but I never believed for a moment that anyone, including themselves, took it seriously.  Clinton had introduced the idea of European style single payer fully covered healthcare known as Hillarycare, and Republicans knew the public wanted it so they introduced what essentially became Obamacare.  There were small differences but the idea was  basically the same:  Require everyone to buy private health insurance or get fined.  Wha-La!  Every American would be covered, just like Canadians.  No one even gave it a second look, because it was just a way to say, "See we want you to have healthcare, too, but we have to stop Hillarycare first.

[GSOgymrat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4B97Fmrjjo

"More votes than any other President in history!"
It's almost as if America has a larger population now than it did in the past.  Weird, ain't it?

If Trump was a typical politician I would wonder why he is investing in these commercials but Trump isn't typical. In his mind, he didn't lose. He's going to go to his grave sincerely believing that he won the 2020 election. His sycophants are trying desperately to make a case that Trump won but Trump himself doesn't need numbers because he's the greatest president America has ever seen. He doesn't care that he's undermining American's faith in elections or risking his party's control of the senate. All that matters is that people know he won.

[SGOS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4B97Fmrjjo

"More votes than any other President in history!"
It's almost as if America has a larger population now than it did in the past.  Weird, ain't it?

The Trump ad shown at the beginning reminded me of an SNL skit.  Yeah, Trump got more votes than any president before him, but Biden got even more.  The sad fact (for both Republicans and Democrats) is that Biden could NOT have got that much of a turnout without Trump in office, because Biden lacks the luster of Bill Clinton, Barrack Obama, Jack Kennedy.  He's just Biden of the status quo.  It was Trump that got disenfranchised liberals like me out of the closets and to the polls.  OK, OK, I don't want all the credit.  There were  conservatives that couldn't take it any more that switched parties this time, too.  I agree with Trump in kind of a twisted semantic way.  Biden did NOT win the election... But Trump LOST it.

[Baruch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4B97Fmrjjo

"More votes than any other President in history!"
It's almost as if America has a larger population now than it did in the past.  Weird, ain't it?

Both lost.  Emperor Xi won.  Every official in Washington DC is on the CCP payroll, or part of Fang Fang's clientele.

Yes, Trump was an easy win in January.  But thanks to a Chinese bio-terror weapon, he lost it (emotionally, but then he is a highly stable genius).  The actual votes cast don't matter to the Deep State anyway.

[Baruch]

He doesn't have any real soical media account he lives in, that he experiences events around him through it, does he? I mean may be only as commercial mediums managed by people 50 years younger than him? Because that's one explanation I can think of.

(The excess make up and the light made me thought somebody was wearing a mask in this is a some parody of the sort for a moment.)

He is a fossil, even by my standards ;-)  I only gave up my flip phone this year, I inherited my Ex's old "senior" smart phone.  I bet Robertson still uses a rotary phone ;-))