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Started by Jason Harvestdancer, July 03, 2020, 09:46:46 PM

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Jason Harvestdancer

So, now that the Democrats have picked their candidate, we are supposed to pretend the third parties don't exist and concentrate ust on these two.

Let's have it,  stump for your preferred candidate.

Personally I think replacing Trump with Biden is like sitting your pants and then changing your shirt.
White privilege is being a lifelong racist, then being sent to the White House twice because your running mate is a minority.<br /><br />No Biden, no KKK, no Fascist USA!

Hydra009


Baruch

The trick will be ... Biden & who??
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Shiranu

Up until very recently, I was planning on either voting Green or writing in Gabbard. Since Biden actually stands a chance in my state now, I will probably vote for him and so long as the Republicans don't nominate someone as batshit as Trump next election use that one to start protest voting.

This election is unfortunately too important to waste my vote though.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Baruch

Quote from: Shiranu on July 03, 2020, 11:52:21 PM
Up until very recently, I was planning on either voting Green or writing in Gabbard. Since Biden actually stands a chance in my state now, I will probably vote for him and so long as the Republicans don't nominate someone as batshit as Trump next election use that one to start protest voting.

This election is unfortunately too important to waste my vote though.

Something I pondered for 44 years ... good luck ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Sargon The Grape

I'm almost tempted to vote for Trump just to see how bad things can possibly get.
Speak when you have something to say, not when you have to say something.

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GSOgymrat

I'm voting for Biden. I live in a battleground state and have no interest in voting third party in this election. I see Trump as having done a particularly terrible job leading the country. I won't give a litany of his flaws and failures but the current state of the United States and its relationship with other countries is due in no small part to his mismanagement. My husband supported Trump but after his response to the COVID-19 pandemic he has lost faith, like many other Republicans, in Trump's ability to lead. Trump's presidency has gone beyond partisanship for us and made this election about removing someone who has proven he is incompetent.

Draconic Aiur

Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on July 04, 2020, 01:16:28 AM
I'm almost tempted to vote for Trump just to see how bad things can possibly get.

Me too. I wanna see the world totally on fire.

Jason Harvestdancer

Quote from: Baruch on July 03, 2020, 11:46:03 PM
The trick will be ... Biden & who??

Good point.  It is a given that people will actually be voting for Biden's running mate to be president.
White privilege is being a lifelong racist, then being sent to the White House twice because your running mate is a minority.<br /><br />No Biden, no KKK, no Fascist USA!

Mermaid

How is this even a question?
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

SGOS

Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on July 03, 2020, 09:46:46 PM
Personally I think replacing Trump with Biden is like sitting your pants and then changing your shirt.
In thinking about all the presidential choices I have been asked to make over many years, this election offers the worst choices I have ever been given.  Trump thinks America is great.  Of course that's because he's running it.  Biden thinks it's great too, the only problem being that Trump is running it.  He seems to want to return to the Obama years, but Biden is no Obama, and those years are long gone.  Granted I think Obama was one of our better presidents since I've been old enough to vote.  But we've had so many shitty presidents that saying Obama was one of the better ones is hardly a ringing endorsement.  In fact it's a mostly worthless endorsement.   

Try to look past the partisan bullshit and look at America as a country right now.  Take away the Republicans and the Democrats and just look at the country.   If you don't think anything needs to change, then either Trump or Biden is a good choice.  If you think it needs change, realize that it didn't just get this way 4 years ago.  It's been a slow process for at least 50 years, and any candidate who doesn't advocate serious change is telling me that he sees the country as OK. 

I've lived through a lot of years in my early life that seemed like America was pretty great.  Flawed for sure, but great by comparison to a lot of other countries.  Today, I don't see a great country.  I see a bickering country festering with self hatred putting more energy into fucking the other guy than creating a better environment for everyone.  I won't be around much longer, but taking solace in the fact that I'm leaving the country in better shape than I found it is not going to be one of my dying thoughts.  I will have happy thoughts, thank goodness, but that just won't be one of them.

Jason Harvestdancer

Quote from: Mermaid on July 04, 2020, 08:40:16 AM
How is this even a question?

Good point.  During the Democratic Primary an effort was made to ensure we saw all 20 candidates.  Now that the major party primaries are over, we are only supposed to see two candidates.
White privilege is being a lifelong racist, then being sent to the White House twice because your running mate is a minority.<br /><br />No Biden, no KKK, no Fascist USA!

Mermaid

Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on July 04, 2020, 09:14:06 AM
Good point.  During the Democratic Primary an effort was made to ensure we saw all 20 candidates.  Now that the major party primaries are over, we are only supposed to see two candidates.
I see one candidate.

A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

Baruch

Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

#14
"Black people who were never slaves are fighting White people who were never Nazis over a Confederate statue erected by Democrats, because Democrats can’t stand their own history anymore.  This is somehow Trump’s fault.  Interesting." ... best comment on the Internet.  LARPing by crisis actors.  Probably triple agents like Robert Maxwell.

Never voted for Trump.  Never will.  But y'all need to step back from the drug stash you bought for 4th of July ;-)

I have decided I am too old to vote.  If I were voting, a 3rd party candidate would be my only choice.  Any 3rd party candidate.

"My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that." - Abraham Lincoln

Trump is waiting for the Darwin Award Democrats to fire on Ft Sumpter again.  He is tempting the Dems, the Dems aren't tempting him.  What Lincoln was doing.  "Go ahead, make my day" - Trump and Lincoln

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flt9K8vlJGE

"The deletion of historical memory and the renunciation of the heroes of the past paves the way for replacing the United States of America with something new. Maybe the Union of Soviet States of America?" ... UCSA ... Union of Chinese States of America?
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.