Started by Unbeliever, March 01, 2019, 06:32:32 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on July 20, 2019, 07:37:07 PMOnce it was plain that we'd beaten everyone else to the moon we lost interest, and moved on to the next news cycle.
Quote from: trdsf on July 20, 2019, 07:43:28 PMWe stopped because:the race was "won", we showed those damn Rooskies who's "better"; andNixon wanted to kill off what was seen as a Kennedy accomplishment, made all the worse for happening on his watch. He could have made it his by upping the ante and setting the task of a permanent lunar base by the end of the 70s, but that's not the way his dark and twisted brain worked. And,even though the Apollo program had a 14:1 return on investment, the average American didn't see it immediately, so public support faded; andthe Soviet space program more or less ceded the moon (mainly due to the death of Sergei Korolev, and the constant failures of the N1, of which it would be charitable to call them merely disastrous) and focused on space stations, providing no more "competition".EDIT: Damn forum software. I really wanted an inline link to the four N1 launches, not an insert of the video. Well, hell, all right, here's the video. The second N1 failure is one of the largest non-nuclear explosions ever.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iuo3J8L9b8
Quote from: Baruch on August 20, 2019, 11:50:13 AMTotalitarianism isn't good for you.
Quote from: Cavebear on August 20, 2019, 10:19:22 AMThe Soviet failures probably demonstrate the difference between positively dedicated and negatively fearful science approaches.
Quote from: Baruch on August 23, 2019, 10:56:38 PMWhat about the mystery cosmonaut? Was there a never acknowledged cosmonaut? Was she a women?
Quote from: Cavebear on August 24, 2019, 12:13:56 AMWould you like to provide any information on that? Would you like to suggest names? Would you like to name never acknowledged cosmonaut? Would you like to prove there are no unicorns?
Quote from: Baruch on August 24, 2019, 12:57:13 AMYou deny all reality, right? There are no mysteries, only what CNN dumps straight into your head thru your tooth fillings?Yes, your Soviet buddies never fail, never have a coverup.
Quote from: Cavebear on August 24, 2019, 02:01:23 AMI might well be the epitome of the "reality exists" idea. And I don't watch CNN much though my experience is that they are generally accurate in their reports.
Quote from: Baruch on August 24, 2019, 08:56:40 AMThe first lie, is how much is reported (control of boundary of narrative). Anything outside of the official boundary ... is debunked.The second lie, is to carefully take the facts (as limited above) and spin them into an interpretation (why did Oswald shoot JFK). With assassinated assassins, this leaves a big hole. With the guy who shot MLK, he lives awhile longer, but people were careful to debunk anything he said (he was an assassin, so why believe him?).