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Started by Jannabear, November 09, 2016, 05:17:00 AM

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widdershins

You're going to be strong and deal with it like you have had to your entire life and hope for better days.  I doubt things will ever get even as bad as they were in the '80s or '90s again.  There will almost certainly be some rough days ahead, but nothing you haven't faced (and overcome) before.  And most importantly you are not going to lie down and take it like you've had to in the past because public opinion is changing rapidly and the politicians either change with it or get buried by it.  The next 4 years may suck.  Or they may not.  Certainly there won't be any more "progress" for a while, but there's only so far it can go back.

Just look gleefully forward to that cool autumn day in early November 2020 when we get to tell Trump, "You're fired!"  You'll get through this.  It's not like you haven't had to do it before, so you know you're strong enough because you've already faced what's coming.
This sentence is a lie...

Absurd Atheist

These are seriously dark times in America, and the stunning parallels with Hitler:

"Hitler gained popular support by attacking the Treaty of Versailles and promoting Pan-Germanism, anti-Semitism, and anti-communism with charismatic oratory and Nazi propaganda. Hitler frequently denounced international capitalism and communism as being part of a Jewish conspiracy.

By 1933, the Nazi Party was the largest elected party in the German Reichstag, which led to Hitler's appointment as Chancellor on 30 January 1933. Following fresh elections won by his coalition, the Reichstag passed the Enabling Act, which began the process of transforming the Weimar Republic into Nazi Germany, a one-party dictatorship based on the totalitarian and autocratic ideology of National Socialism. Hitler aimed to eliminate Jews from Germany and establish a New Order to counter what he saw as the injustice of the post-World War I international order dominated by Britain and France. His first six years in power resulted in rapid economic recovery from the Great Depression, the effective abandonment of restrictions imposed on Germany after World War I, and the annexation of territories that were home to millions of ethnic Germansâ€"actions which gave him significant popular support."

Sound familiar?
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Shiranu

#32
I can say this; in the middle of Texas State today were several men dressed in Trump attire yelling at anyone with brown skin to, "Go the fuck back home" and harassed several LGBT couples (or anyone who could "look" gay) by telling them how big of "fucking fagots" they are. I know several people got it on snapchat, i'll see tomorrow if anyone saved it.

This is what America voted for. I want to say as someone with a foreign name and mixed complexion, a sarcastic thanks... but really, no. As just a decent human being I want to thank you and ask that you kindly go fuck yourself with a razor.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Baruch

Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on November 09, 2016, 03:08:00 PM
Janabear, just remember Hoover was a cross dresser when such things could get people arrested.

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Don't do that.

SGOS

Quote from: Shiranu on November 09, 2016, 08:12:02 PM
I can say this; in the middle of Texas State today were several men dressed in Trump attire yelling at anyone with brown skin to, "Go the fuck back home" and harassed several LGBT couples (or anyone who could "look" gay) by telling them how big of "fucking fagots" they are. I know several people got it on snapchat, i'll see tomorrow if anyone saved it.

This is what America voted for. I want to say as someone with a foreign name and mixed complexion, a sarcastic thanks... but really, no. As just a decent human being I want to thank you and ask that you kindly go fuck yourself with a razor.

I've noted before that I'm surprised by how deeply ingrained this sort of behavior is.  I'm more surprised that it was nurtured and fanned below the surface for so many years, probably crushed by political correctness, but never examined.  I knew it was there, but just in the form of occasional slips, often as tasteless jokes.  Now it seems released.  It's not flattering behavior. 

drunkenshoe

I am actually worried about a racist crime wave more than this. But I doubt, if it would happen as bad in the UK though. I hope not. Apparently, it is still on.

Trump will 'give' a visa for these abuses to the scum, like UKIP did in the UK.
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SGOS

#36
The headlines portray an unusually dissatisfied electorate this morning with protests against a newly elected president who has awaked a sense of moral outrage against his policies.  And while this is understandable, I point out to myself that almost exactly one half of the country is celebrating joyously.  I suppose contention has to come near a 50/50 split to survive.  Otherwise, a 25% minority tends to get swept under the carpet. 

But there has been a near 50/50 split for many years.  How can this be?  A long running equal division seems like a mathematical anomaly, yet it survives.  I think the reason is more about psychology.  We might be programmed to take sides, and as the sides grow, they begin to dominate our emotions.  While other issues may be more important (and I truly believe there are more important things to fight over), the sides take on a life of their own, dominating and shoving themselves brutally center stage.  We are forced to choose an ugly dilemma.

Yet the equality of the sides perplexes me.  50/50??  Really?  My explanation doesn't explain it.

Jannabear

Quote from: Absurd Atheist on November 09, 2016, 08:08:39 PM
These are seriously dark times in America, and the stunning parallels with Hitler:

"Hitler gained popular support by attacking the Treaty of Versailles and promoting Pan-Germanism, anti-Semitism, and anti-communism with charismatic oratory and Nazi propaganda. Hitler frequently denounced international capitalism and communism as being part of a Jewish conspiracy.

By 1933, the Nazi Party was the largest elected party in the German Reichstag, which led to Hitler's appointment as Chancellor on 30 January 1933. Following fresh elections won by his coalition, the Reichstag passed the Enabling Act, which began the process of transforming the Weimar Republic into Nazi Germany, a one-party dictatorship based on the totalitarian and autocratic ideology of National Socialism. Hitler aimed to eliminate Jews from Germany and establish a New Order to counter what he saw as the injustice of the post-World War I international order dominated by Britain and France. His first six years in power resulted in rapid economic recovery from the Great Depression, the effective abandonment of restrictions imposed on Germany after World War I, and the annexation of territories that were home to millions of ethnic Germansâ€"actions which gave him significant popular support."

Sound familiar?
I don't think these are comparable because the economic crisis in germany was significantly worse than how bad it is in the usa, and the level of racism they had was far far worse.

Jannabear

Quote from: drunkenshoe on November 10, 2016, 06:22:37 AM
I am actually worried about a racist crime wave more than this. But I doubt, if it would happen as bad in the UK though. I hope not. Apparently, it is still on.

Trump will 'give' a visa for these abuses to the scum, like UKIP did in the UK.
figured i'd show you this
https://mic.com/articles/159094/at-least-2-trans-youth-have-committed-suicide-since-election-lgbtq-hotline-calls-surge#.O3305MmGU
:(

widdershins

Quote from: Shiranu on November 09, 2016, 08:12:02 PM
I can say this; in the middle of Texas State today were several men dressed in Trump attire yelling at anyone with brown skin to, "Go the fuck back home" and harassed several LGBT couples (or anyone who could "look" gay) by telling them how big of "fucking fagots" they are. I know several people got it on snapchat, i'll see tomorrow if anyone saved it.

This is what America voted for. I want to say as someone with a foreign name and mixed complexion, a sarcastic thanks... but really, no. As just a decent human being I want to thank you and ask that you kindly go fuck yourself with a razor.
That must have been a dream.  Trump's supporters aren't racist and calling them "deplorable" is just a terrible thing to do.  Don't you watch Faux News?  Racism died decades ago.

Seriously, though, it's no wonder Republicans win so much.  They have a legitimate super power akin to the Jedi mind trick.  They say or do something that is obviously racist or a lie, then they say it wasn't and we all have to say, "Well, maybe it isn't".  Regulating abortion clinics for "women's safety", restricting voting by race to prevent "voter fraud", creating a "moment of silence" in schools that has nothing whatsoever to do with prayer...  We have to take them to court to get these decisions reversed and they STILL don't take much blame for what they were really doing.  We have a party being blatantly racist and we can't call them racist or bigots or they'll get on OUR asses about it and make US look bad!  How the fuck does that work?  In a country that accepts blatant racism and pretends it's really something else is it any wonder we just elected a guy who blatantly says something hideous and then pretends the media is making it up about him?
This sentence is a lie...

Cavebear

Quote from: drunkenshoe on November 09, 2016, 09:56:14 AM
Let's hope so. I dunno, SGOS. This man is a salesman. Do you remember the broker characters portrayed in Wolf of Wall Street? The money and power hunger idiots turned into monsters by Jordan Belfort? This man is an original rich version of them, from craddle. There is nothing he wouldn't sell to get profit or power, including America and American people. Rich will get more rich and others will get poorer. Also I think he will change 180 degrees now and he will try to draw a new image of a 'president of all Americans' and THEN when he acquired enough power, he will try to do whatever he will. It will happen gradually. :sad2:


And best profit is in war, arms trade, agressive policies. Esp. in this climate. And he will make the best of it, he is not stupid. He is gonna get along with Erdogan very well. Trust me.


And he is the president of the United States of America right now. I want to cry so badly, I just can't. :sad2:

Democracies across the world are worried.  So am I. 
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