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Would Somebody Explain Hipsters To Me ?

Started by stromboli, June 03, 2016, 11:34:43 PM

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stromboli

Seriously, I don't get it. I see people now dressed almost in uniform with full bush beards and smartly dressed and displaying-to me- arrogance in their demeanor, or else weirdly dressed with any number of potential combinations of dress, tattoos, hairdos or you name it. Saw a picture on the internet of a girl in an airport typing on a manual typewriter. Not a portable, a full blown manual typewriter. Having lived through the time we went from manual to electric to computers, it seems utterly pointless to me.

Ya got me. Hippies I understand because many of the alternative aspects they were into made sense to me. I'm sure hipsterism makes sense to somebody, but I don't see what ultimate aims or what expectations these people have. I'm sure somebody will set me straight.

Shiranu

I am commonly defined as a hipster, so I don't feel qualified to really say.
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I tried looking it up on Urban Dictionary, but was met with a wall of text. Never a good sign.
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marom1963

Quote from: stromboli on June 03, 2016, 11:34:43 PM
Seriously, I don't get it. I see people now dressed almost in uniform with full bush beards and smartly dressed and displaying-to me- arrogance in their demeanor, or else weirdly dressed with any number of potential combinations of dress, tattoos, hairdos or you name it. Saw a picture on the internet of a girl in an airport typing on a manual typewriter. Not a portable, a full blown manual typewriter. Having lived through the time we went from manual to electric to computers, it seems utterly pointless to me.

Ya got me. Hippies I understand because many of the alternative aspects they were into made sense to me. I'm sure hipsterism makes sense to somebody, but I don't see what ultimate aims or what expectations these people have. I'm sure somebody will set me straight.
The latest herd. They see themselves as rebels of a sort - and they are - but they rebel by conforming to one another - so, big deal. One needs money to be a hipster, of course. One needs to keep up w/the latest trends. One has to have the latest whatever - even if it is an old typewriter. And then there are the fashions.
Me - I'm a grandfather clock. I've got my own style and I stick to it. I've been dressing the same way for 35 years.
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Hydra009

Quote from: stromboli on June 03, 2016, 11:34:43 PMSeriously, I don't get it. I see people now dressed almost in uniform with full bush beards and smartly dressed and displaying-to me- arrogance in their demeanor, or else weirdly dressed with any number of potential combinations of dress, tattoos, hairdos or you name it.
Like other fashion trends, it's to "look cool".  And to look cool you have to look different.  So beards, skinnyjeans, and denim are in.

QuoteSaw a picture on the internet of a girl in an airport typing on a manual typewriter. Not a portable, a full blown manual typewriter. Having lived through the time we went from manual to electric to computers, it seems utterly pointless to me.
Yeah, I despise the "ironic" technological regression.  There's a reason that crap went obsolete.  Cause it sucks.

QuoteYa got me. Hippies I understand because many of the alternative aspects they were into made sense to me. I'm sure hipsterism makes sense to somebody, but I don't see what ultimate aims or what expectations these people have. I'm sure somebody will set me straight.
What are their values/goals?  You got me there.  This is the best I can do:

"While mainstream society of the 2000s (decade) had been busying itself with reality television, dance music, and locating the whereabouts of Britney Spears's underpants, an uprising was quietly and conscientiously taking place behind the scenes. Long-forgotten styles of clothing, beer, cigarettes and music were becoming popular again. Retro was cool, the environment was precious and old was the new 'new'. Kids wanted to wear Sylvia Plath's cardigans and Buddy Holly's glasses â€" they revelled in the irony of making something so nerdy so cool. They wanted to live sustainably and eat organic gluten-free grains. Above all, they wanted to be recognised for being different â€" to diverge from the mainstream and carve a cultural niche all for themselves. For this new generation, style wasn't something you could buy in a department store, it became something you found in a thrift shop, or, ideally, made yourself. The way to be cool wasn't to look like a television star: it was to look like as though you'd never seen television." - link

Basically hobo chic as a reaction to the mainstream celebrity-obsessed cesspool.

gentle_dissident

Quote from: Hydra009 on June 04, 2016, 01:06:16 AM
Yeah, I despise the "ironic" technological regression.

I love my Novag Micro II and Casio MT-68. How do you feel about people who just appreciate and use old stuff?

PickelledEggs

In short, it's a person that "follows the trend", so to speak. Usually they don't have much of their own style or interests and they are infatuated with pop culture or "underground pop culture". Because of the lack of originality and a few other traits, hipster is a derogatory term. Like.. If  I started wearing a bun outside of my house (I wear my hair in a bun to keep it out of my eyes while I paint) I would be a hipster. Because that is the style that is "trendy". Similar things like that.

God I fucking hate the man-bun as a look. And what is worse is many women love that look...  I guess some women are just dumb hipsters also.

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PickelledEggs

Yeah. Also. Like hydra said. Beards are in.... So people will wear huge fucking beards. Ridiculous lumberjack beards... 

Dude. You live in the suburbs and brew coffee for a living. Get over yourself, you hipster.
That's what goes through my head when I see one of these culture leeches.

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Hydra009

Quote from: gentle_dissident on June 04, 2016, 01:20:19 AM
I love my Novag Micro II and Casio MT-68. How do you feel about people who just appreciate and use old stuff?
If it's functional or you have some sort of legit reason for using it, it's fine.  (like GRRM using WordStar 4.0)

But if you're going out of your way and using something with dubious functionality just to look cool (like so), I hate your guts.

PickelledEggs

Quote from: Hydra009 on June 04, 2016, 01:27:36 AM
If it's functional or you have some sort of legit reason for using it, it's fine.  (like GRRM using WordStar 4.0)

But if you're going out of your way and using something with dubious functionality just to look cool (like so), I hate your guts.
I almost hate you for showing me that.

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gentle_dissident

Quote from: PickelledEggs on June 04, 2016, 01:21:47 AM
God I fucking hate the man-bun as a look.
I find it functional.

Quote from: PickelledEggs on June 04, 2016, 01:21:47 AM
And what is worse is many women love that look... 
I fail to see how that's not a plus.

gentle_dissident

Quote from: Hydra009 on June 04, 2016, 01:27:36 AM
But if you're going out of your way and using something with dubious functionality just to look cool (like so), I hate your guts.
That is a cool record player. I've got some nice vintage portables saved on Pinterest. I've got a new retro portable pinned to my wish list.

marom1963

Thirty years ago, they would have called sitting in a cafe w/a phonograph "posing" - well all that posing costs money. Stupid fucking young people. Ah, well ...  I'm waiting for flappers to come back!
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PickelledEggs

Like... I have a beard. It's not ridiculously grown out like homeless person or a person working a lumber mill in the 1920's midwest. I have some facial hair. It's because I look like a dufus without it.

On the other hand... there is this trend of people going around like this:

and this:


Yes, it's functional, @gentle_dissident , but if you are just going out, it looks stupid. Like I said, I have my hair in a man-bun while I'm working at my easel. My hair gets in my face and it greases up my glasses and I can't see otherwise, so I'll either put it in a bun or put a hat on... depending on how warm it is. I'd never go out in public like that willingly.

Hydra009

Quote from: PickelledEggs on June 04, 2016, 01:29:30 AMI almost hate you for showing me that.
Good good.  Let the hate flow through you.